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Joint Pain

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Participants: Nick Evenson (Host), Dr. James Marcum

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00:01 Welcome back to Ultimate Prescription.
00:02 I'm your host Nick Evenson here with Dr. James Marcum.
00:05 And we've been talking about pain
00:06 and today specifically we're talking about joint pain.
00:09 And Dr. Marcum,
00:11 we covered a lot
00:12 of the introductory topics last time.
00:14 Yeah.
00:15 But we're gonna get to some questions
00:16 that people asked in just a moment.
00:18 But I want to talk to you
00:20 about something that is weighing on my mind.
00:22 Okay.
00:23 I've got a couple of young boys and having a couple of kids
00:26 just makes realize I'm getting older.
00:27 Yep.
00:29 And when I get even older,
00:30 say my grandparents' age
00:32 things are going to be lot different in my body.
00:34 Right.
00:35 And hopefully my mind and my body
00:36 age at the same rate,
00:38 so I know what's appropriate to be doing and what's not.
00:40 But as we get older we need to manage risk
00:42 because getting up on ladders
00:44 or climbing up on the roof
00:45 at older ages like you mentioned.
00:47 Yeah.
00:48 It's kind of a not so smart thing to do, right?
00:49 No, we've talked about how our joints just wear out.
00:53 And everything at the body gets older
00:55 at a different speed.
00:56 Right.
00:57 And one of the key things,
00:59 we have to keep our joints healthy as we age
01:01 because that's one of the key things
01:02 for our independence.
01:04 You know when the hips and the knees,
01:06 we can't move to the bathroom,
01:08 we can't take care of ourselves,
01:09 guess what happens.
01:10 We have then someone else take care of us.
01:12 So that's why joint care is so crucial at younger ages.
01:17 Some people say, oh, I don't have to do anything,
01:18 you know.
01:19 I can abuse my joints
01:21 when I'm younger and when I get older
01:23 and those are the people
01:24 that end up not being able to move
01:26 when they're older.
01:27 It's right.
01:28 And heavy people,
01:30 you just can't lug them to the bathroom
01:31 if they can't move their parts.
01:32 So joint care is very important
01:34 in realizing being smart enough
01:37 and wise enough to say listen,
01:38 I have to take care of my joints
01:39 not only when I'm young but when I'm older,
01:42 I might have to take care of them even more.
01:44 And some people don't like to have extra things
01:47 to help their joints do better.
01:48 But I would rather have someone have a walking stick
01:52 or a walker and move around slowly
01:54 than sit in a chair all day and not move at all.
01:56 Yeah.
01:58 'Cause movement is very helpful,
01:59 keep the joints going.
02:01 But sometimes people have to be more careful,
02:03 I mean, some people I've noticed as they age
02:05 and I take care of a lot of people
02:07 between 85 and 100.
02:09 They say well, I can't walk as much
02:11 and I'm embarrassed to have a walker or a device.
02:15 Well, I would rather them do that
02:16 and keep moving than sitting at in a chair all day.
02:19 Yeah.
02:20 We know that sitting would, you know,
02:22 causes the joints to get older quicker
02:24 and keeps us from moving as well
02:26 and we lose our independence sooner.
02:28 So I'd rather have someone get up
02:29 and move every hour
02:31 and protect their joints
02:32 by either a cane or walking stick.
02:34 Some joints need stability with a device
02:37 to help stabilize that joint as we get older.
02:40 But that's important for older people to do that,
02:43 but it's also important for the younger persons
02:45 like you're to start thinking
02:47 about what can I do now to protect my joints
02:50 when I get older.
02:51 Right.
02:52 That's like not doing crazy things
02:54 like we've talked about
02:55 like if you're tennis player
02:56 and this is wearing out will quit wearing it out.
02:58 Yeah.
02:59 You know, if you're a football player
03:01 and you're wearing out your knees,
03:02 maybe you should quit playing football.
03:04 Long distance runners you know,
03:06 God never made us to pound the knees and hips
03:09 26 miles at a time.
03:12 Long term of that if we don't take
03:14 really good care of hydration
03:16 and we don't get really good nourishment,
03:18 if we don't listen to our bodies,
03:19 we can wear out those joints as well.
03:21 Yeah.
03:23 And it's a balance, Nick, because exercise is good,
03:25 it brings nutrition to the joint,
03:27 it brings oxygen to the joint,
03:28 it helps keep the muscle and other functions well,
03:31 but you can literally wear out a joint if you overdo it.
03:34 So I think that's a very important
03:36 both for the young as you think
03:37 about this as you get older and also...
03:41 I have problems with my feet joints, okay.
03:43 And I know if I do too much, guess what's going to happen?
03:47 I'm going to be out of it for long time on a boot,
03:49 I mean, because I've lot of inflammation
03:51 plantar fasciitis.
03:53 So I've learned to be smart about that
03:54 so I can do the basics.
03:56 Right, yeah.
03:57 And like for instance
03:58 last night I was doing some exercise.
04:01 Well, rather than running on my joints
04:03 I decided to sit and do a bicycle
04:06 where I didn't put as much pressure.
04:07 Where I might swim you know,
04:09 that's being intelligent about taking care of your joints
04:12 because you don't want to wear them out.
04:14 That's right.
04:15 And that's something I had to do recently too, I used to,
04:17 you know, the decade ago I was doing activities
04:18 that were much more high impact on my knees and what not,
04:20 but I've to eliminate those because I've decided you know,
04:22 it's just really not worth in.
04:23 Yeah, it's not worth in. Let's do some questions.
04:25 Yeah, let's get in some questions.
04:26 And if you have some questions, please visit the website
04:28 heartwiseministries.org
04:30 and we'd love to hear from you.
04:32 Hear what you're going through
04:33 and see if we can provide some easy advice for you
04:36 to help make those situations better.
04:38 And it's free.
04:39 And it's free, we're not charging anything for it.
04:41 We just want to help people live more in harmony
04:43 with the way God designed us.
04:44 But you know occasionally I have to consult
04:46 someone else to help me answer questions.
04:47 That's right, we can't know everything.
04:49 That's why we have a lot of different volunteer doctors
04:52 that have given their expertise to us about it so I can't,
04:55 if joint problems I frequently ask an orthopedic.
04:57 But a lot of the joint problems if it's not common sense,
05:00 they have to really see a physician.
05:02 Yeah.
05:03 An orthopedic doctor. All right.
05:04 Well, our first viewer writes in and asks
05:06 what is the most common cause of joint problem?
05:08 Okay, I think we've covered that pretty much all ready.
05:11 Trauma, overuse,
05:15 here is one that we don't like to talk about too much,
05:17 if you carry too much weight on the body,
05:19 it wears out the joints sooner.
05:21 Right.
05:22 So just getting down to ideal body weight.
05:24 I mean other cause of joint problems is inactivity,
05:26 not using the joint,
05:28 if you don't use it, you lose it,
05:30 and lack of stretching.
05:31 People don't warm up
05:33 before they get the joint moving,
05:35 especially as we age we need more stretching,
05:38 more moving of the joints on a regular basis,
05:40 we have to protect it more,
05:41 but those are the most common causes of joint.
05:43 Trauma, too much weight,
05:45 not moving and not stretching enough.
05:47 All right, we got another question here.
05:49 What is the difference between
05:51 osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis?
05:53 You touched on that earlier but...
05:54 Now, arthritis just means inflammation of a joint.
05:58 So anything that can have inflammation of a joint
06:01 is a cut off, right, sometimes it can be bones,
06:03 sometimes it could be connective tissue,
06:05 different things have inflammation of the joint.
06:07 Right.
06:09 Osteoarthritis is just usually from the wear and tear, okay.
06:13 And we do that with the history,
06:15 we can actually take x-rays and we look at the x-rays
06:19 and they can, here we can notice
06:20 that the joints space is becoming less,
06:22 we look for things called osteophytes on the bones,
06:27 different bone cyst, different things like that.
06:29 Very common to have osteoarthritis in the fingers,
06:33 knees, hips and spines.
06:35 We have pain and stiffness, decrease range of motion.
06:40 Morning stiffness are very common.
06:43 Now rheumatoid arthritis is when the body attack itself.
06:48 And usually you can have some of the same type of symptoms
06:51 but you also notice
06:52 that when you look at the blood,
06:54 you notice some inflammatory markers
06:55 where the body is actually attacking itself.
06:58 So it can have some of the similar symptoms of it
07:01 but the cause of it is different.
07:02 One is the body's wearing out,
07:04 the other one's the body is actually attacking itself.
07:07 So what causes the body to attack itself
07:08 as in the case of rheumatoid arthritis?
07:10 It can be lots of things
07:11 and lot of times we don't even know,
07:13 if we know what was causing rheumatoid arthritis
07:15 we would treat it, but it's my theory
07:17 that lot of these things
07:18 when the body attacks itself is its genetics
07:21 or we bring in some type of antigen
07:23 in the body
07:25 that the body doesn't know what to do with it.
07:26 And certain bodies say, I don't know, what is this?
07:29 And then it attacks the joint, it attacks what's there,
07:33 and it does run in families, arthritis does.
07:35 All right, let's talk about another issue.
07:38 Where is the place for physical therapy
07:40 when it comes to joint pain?
07:41 I mean, I know I've visited a physical therapist
07:43 for a lot of different pains
07:44 and it's been very beneficial...
07:46 Yeah.
07:47 Does it help with joints? Yes, it helps with joint pains.
07:49 It's something that I would recommend,
07:50 you see a physical therapist
07:52 because they help correct posturing,
07:54 You might not be moving correctly,
07:56 it's not uncommon
07:57 if you're favoring one part that has a problem
08:00 that the muscles on the other side overdo it.
08:02 Muscle imbalance. Yes, muscle imbalances.
08:04 The physical therapist can train you
08:06 to do specific exercises
08:08 that helps specific muscle groups.
08:10 Right.
08:11 Now I know you can go to the gym and do exercises
08:13 but sometimes those exercises might not be effective
08:16 where you might need more time on this than that,
08:18 because remember we're not trying to just get strong,
08:20 we're trying to treat a joint problem.
08:22 You can make the muscle imbalance worse
08:23 rather than equalizing it I guess.
08:25 Yeah, I think physical therapist are...
08:27 If you're having joint problems,
08:29 I think everyone should see a good physical therapist
08:31 and get evaluated and see the things
08:33 that they can do 'cause you know,
08:34 most of the things that they do,
08:35 they don't have lots of side effects,
08:37 they get to causes or problems and help your body heal itself.
08:40 Yeah, and a good physical therapist,
08:42 they will work with you for a number of weeks
08:43 and then say, you know what,
08:45 if we're not seeing an improvement,
08:46 you know, we need to send you on to someone else, right?
08:48 Yeah, exactly. They know what to do.
08:50 All right,
08:51 so we talked a little bit about this already,
08:53 but how do we prevent joint problems?
08:55 Well, that's a great question.
08:56 I guess one of the most common things is stretching.
09:00 If you sit at a desk every hour move it,
09:03 move every part every hour.
09:04 You know, we should get up and move everything every hour.
09:07 You know, if you don't use it, you'll lose it.
09:08 Right.
09:10 If you don't use it, the parts can get stiff,
09:12 especially if the parts been damaged before.
09:15 So damage part gets stiff a lot quicker
09:17 when you don't move and that can be very painful,
09:20 when they don't move enough.
09:21 So that will help it but what moving does it,
09:23 guess what moving does?
09:24 It brings a new blood supply into the area,
09:26 gets more oxygen to the joints gets,
09:28 you know, some of these joints
09:30 don't have a very big blood supply,
09:33 so just moving increases the blood supply.
09:36 Other things to prevent joint problems
09:38 if you have a weak joint you might want supports.
09:41 Some people wear braces, if it's a foot you know,
09:44 some people wear supportive shoes,
09:47 on the knees you can have braces,
09:49 on the hips you can move with walkers or pads,
09:53 of course we have braces for the joints here, the elbow.
09:58 And these braces are usually just for a short term...
10:00 Hopefully. Right?
10:01 But sometimes people have to wear them long term
10:03 if the joint is irreparably damaged.
10:05 Of course, hydration is so important,
10:08 good nutrition is important and also eating healthy foods,
10:12 you know, healthy food
10:13 is important to how the whole body works,
10:15 so these are some of few things
10:16 that people can do to prevent joint problems.
10:19 Now what about medications?
10:21 So there are medications that can damage the joints
10:22 or there are some that could help?
10:24 Well, you know, it's a query, if you have a joint...
10:27 Certain medications can cause
10:28 side effects to the joints, okay.
10:30 It sort of rare but it could be.
10:33 But certain medications help with joint,
10:35 of course if it's infections you need antibiotics,
10:37 if it's a bacterial infection, if there is inflammation,
10:41 sometimes you need a short course of medicines
10:43 to settle down the inflammation to give the joint time to heal.
10:46 Okay, right.
10:48 So sometimes there is a need for that
10:49 as long as a risk that will worth the benefit.
10:51 And then like we talk today
10:53 surgery is usually sort of a last resort.
10:56 Right, right.
10:57 Now here is an easy one for you.
10:59 You've had a situation similar to this I think,
11:00 how do you know if you have a rotator cuff problem?
11:04 Yeah, well, you know,
11:05 there is lots of tendons up here the supraspinatus,
11:08 the bicipital and they all have poor blood supply.
11:12 Sometimes insertions become frayed
11:14 and overtime it becomes the problem.
11:16 But one of the big things
11:18 is if you can't raise it very high,
11:21 and like I said and there could be
11:22 so many causes of it.
11:24 And what you need to do really if you have you it,
11:27 you can't raise it very high, it hurts a lot,
11:29 it doesn't go away fairly quick,
11:30 you need to see your physician,
11:32 get some imaging done
11:33 'cause there are so many parts in that joint.
11:36 There is tendons, there is ligaments,
11:37 there is glenoid, there is joint itself.
11:40 Any of that could be affected, if it happens right away,
11:42 that's usually trauma,
11:44 and if the trauma doesn't go away
11:45 then that could be a serious problem.
11:47 Needs to see your doctor,
11:48 do some imaging to see exactly
11:50 where the physical therapy needs to be done
11:52 with special exercises
11:54 or if you might even need surgery.
11:56 All right, well, Dr. Marcum, thank you for those insights.
11:58 And thank you viewers for joining us today
12:00 as we've talked about joint pain.
12:02 There is a lot more we can talk about
12:03 but if you're experiencing pain,
12:05 see your physician.
12:06 Thanks for watching
12:07 and Dr. Marcum will close in just a moment
12:09 with prayer.
12:17 I hope everyone has learned something useful today
12:21 about joint pains.
12:23 We all have joints
12:24 and unfortunately through the years
12:26 they wear out.
12:27 I know I've had problems with my own joints.
12:30 If you're having a joint problem,
12:31 we want you to see help about it, get some help,
12:34 especially see a physical therapist,
12:36 your doctor they might be able to figure out
12:38 what to do so you don't have any more joint problems.
12:41 If you're older you might want to make sure
12:42 you protect your joints,
12:44 don't be too proud to move around
12:45 with the walker or some other device
12:47 that helps protect your joints.
12:50 I like to have a prayer
12:52 for all of those with joint pains
12:53 and other pains at this time.
12:55 Let's bow our heads.
12:57 Heavenly Father, we know you're the great physician,
12:59 and you know you've promised to heal us in your time.
13:02 Those are out there with joints pains
13:04 and pains anywhere in the body, Father,
13:06 we want to pray for them
13:08 that you help them to be relieved of their suffering.
13:12 Thank you for the opportunity
13:13 we have to serve you and please be with us
13:16 as we move forward in our lives
13:18 and we look so much forward to your second coming
13:21 when there will be no pain is our prayer, amen.
13:25 If you have questions,
13:26 I want you to go to our website,
13:28 that's heartwiseministries.org.


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