Participants: James Marcum & Charles Mills
Series Code: UP
Program Code: UP00022A
00:17 Nothing strikes more fear in the heart of humanity
00:20 than hearing a doctor say in low even tones,
00:24 "You've got cancer." Stay tuned.
00:27 I'm Dr. James Marcum.
00:29 Are you interested in discovering the reason why?
00:33 You want solutions to your health care problem.
00:35 Are you tired of taking medications?
00:38 Well, you're about to be given the Ultimate Prescription.
00:43 We're continuing our series of programs
00:45 on the top causes of death in this world.
00:47 And cancer has earned a solid
00:49 and heartbreaking place high on the list.
00:51 I can almost guarantee
00:53 that everyone watching this broadcast
00:54 either has or knows someone who has this dreaded disease.
00:58 Modern medicine is very good at detecting cancer,
01:01 but is it just as skillful at treating it?
01:04 Let's talk with cardiologist Dr. James Marcum
01:06 about diagnosis, treatment,
01:08 and modern medicine strengths and weaknesses in this area.
01:12 Dr. Marcum, what do we need to know?
01:14 Yeah, there's so much we need to know about cancer
01:16 that we can never cover it in one or two programs.
01:20 But I want to throw out some words
01:21 that I want our listeners to build a framework on.
01:25 And if we think back where we've been,
01:27 we've talked a lot about the causes of death.
01:29 We talked about heart disease specifically heart attacks.
01:33 Then we talked about the rhythms,
01:35 many of them congenital, many of them acquired.
01:37 We've talked about strokes.
01:39 So all this sort of relates to the heart
01:40 and cardiovascular system.
01:42 Then we talked about how medicines can kill.
01:45 We've also spoken about lung disease
01:47 and how lung disease kills us.
01:49 And also we talked a little bit about lack of sleep
01:51 and how that is a devastating problem.
01:54 And if you think about it, there's couple of words
01:56 I want our viewers to put in their brain,
01:58 as we cover these topics. One is the original design.
02:03 In each of these systems that causes death,
02:05 we get away from the original design.
02:08 The second word I want them to remember or words
02:11 is prolonged exposure. For instance, heart disease,
02:15 prolonged exposure to stress--
02:17 Stress, yes. Creates the disease,
02:19 we need the modern medicine.
02:22 Sleep apnea, we talked about prolonged exposure
02:25 to lack of sleep causing damage.
02:27 It goes against the original design.
02:30 So you follow me here? I understand. Okay.
02:32 The original design has a sleeping--
02:34 Right, right. Every night and having--
02:35 We talked about lung disease and cigarettes,
02:38 prolonged exposure to cigarettes,
02:40 going against the original design causing damage.
02:43 So these prolonged exposures to toxic substances
02:46 whether it be whatever,
02:48 stress causes us to need modern medicine.
02:51 And modern medicine we talked about treat symptoms.
02:54 Remember we talked about
02:56 that medicines don't fix the problem--
02:57 That's right. That they are for the short-term,
02:59 but they don't get at the cause.
03:02 I had a question just yesterday about
03:04 what the safest medicine was and remember we couldn't say
03:06 any medicine that was safe.
03:08 But if I had to answer that,
03:09 I guess, I'd say Tylenol might be the safest,
03:11 but it still has side effects. Yes, it does.
03:14 So no medicine's entirely safe.
03:15 It bridges as a short-term and yet long-term exposure
03:19 to medications in high amounts again can be a cause of death
03:23 that we don't like to talk about,
03:25 which brings us to cancer.
03:28 In the United States, in the world,
03:30 cardiovascular disease is still the number one cause of death.
03:34 However, we know that cancer rates continue to rise.
03:37 They go up.
03:39 Now cardiovascular rates have sort of stabilized
03:41 and might be coming down.
03:42 But cancer rates are going up
03:44 and you have to ask why is that happening?
03:47 Why is that occurring?
03:49 You know, our genetics, and when you point it out,
03:51 our genetics can't change that quickly,
03:54 why is the rates going up so high?
03:56 Why is cardiovascular rates stabling and cancer catching up?
04:00 Well, one of the reasons is awareness.
04:02 For instance, if I ask you cholesterol,
04:04 you understand what cholesterol's all about.
04:07 When heart disease was at number one,
04:09 we got a bunch of acute treatments
04:11 that you go into the emergency room.
04:13 There's tons of protocols,
04:14 you know, to treat the acute care.
04:16 So we've got great at treating acute care cardiac disease.
04:20 And we can put a stent in.
04:21 We can have all these devices
04:24 and technology has helped us abort that original damage.
04:28 So we bought people some time
04:29 so hopefully they can change their risk factors.
04:31 Everyone's pointing on cigarettes and cholesterol
04:34 and high blood pressure. We're doing that.
04:35 Now, hopefully, with this program,
04:37 we'll increase the awareness of medications
04:41 and other things, but cancer we haven't arrived
04:43 at that to this great degree.
04:45 But the cancer rates across the world are going up.
04:48 And so for a few minutes here today,
04:50 I want to talk to our audience about these two things,
04:53 original design and prolonged exposure.
04:57 Now let's think a little bit about
05:00 the most common types of cancer.
05:02 Now the most common types of cancer
05:04 overall is probably skin cancer.
05:06 But the ones that are deadly, let's talk about those first.
05:10 Do you know which cancer kills more people
05:13 than anything else, Charles?
05:15 Colon cancer?
05:17 Well, the colon cancer is number two.
05:18 Okay. But lung cancer-- Lung cancer.
05:20 Is number one. Lung cancer kills more people than anything else.
05:24 Well, if you think about what we talked about
05:26 the original design and prolonged exposure,
05:29 what prolonged exposure you think leads
05:32 to most cancers in the lung?
05:34 I would say toxins in the air
05:35 or something that we're ingesting.
05:37 That's correct, cigarettes. Yes.
05:38 In fact, if you smoke cigarettes,
05:40 you're 700 times more likely to develop lung cancer.
05:45 So the real solution to lung cancer
05:49 is to remove cigarettes from the environment.
05:52 And yet we haven't totally removed cigarettes
05:54 from the environment.
05:55 And if you think of all the 4,000
05:57 toxic chemicals in a cigarette,
06:00 you know, you smoke that,
06:01 prolonged exposure in the lungs damages the lungs,
06:05 raises the rate of you having cancer.
06:08 Now let's think about the lungs for a minute.
06:09 You know, you got these alveoli cells
06:12 and when you bring in cigarette smoke,
06:15 it immediately comes in contact with your circulation.
06:19 It immediately there, it gets in.
06:20 That's why people like nicotine so much.
06:22 It's a quick fix.
06:23 When they smoke, it's right there.
06:25 For instance, if you want a quick fix
06:26 from a pain pill to get a high from that,
06:29 you've to swallow it. It has to be absorbed.
06:31 It takes some time.
06:33 If you want a quicker fix from a patch like a fentanyl patch,
06:36 it still takes time for absorption.
06:38 Even IV medications take a little bit of time.
06:40 But when you get a chemical that you breathe in,
06:43 boom, it's right in contact with the alveoli,
06:46 right in contact with the blood, that's what you get.
06:49 Now why do you think people snort cocaine?
06:50 Yeah. Why do you think people have cigarettes?
06:53 'Cause they get that into the blood right away.
06:55 In fact, my dad is a nurse anesthetist
06:58 and he used to put people to sleep.
06:59 You know, and if you ever seen that well,
07:01 you know, they put a mask on you.
07:02 Well, take some deep breaths, boom, you go out,
07:05 because the inhalational agents
07:07 get in the bloodstream so quickly.
07:09 Well, if you think about lung cancer,
07:12 prolonged exposure to nicotine and the carcinogens,
07:16 it immediately gets in the bloodstream.
07:18 You have prolonged exposure in your lungs.
07:20 Eventually, it causes damage
07:22 and it's been associated with cancer.
07:24 So the real problem with cancer in this case
07:27 is a prolonged exposure to something
07:30 that we weren't originally designed to be exposed to.
07:33 So I want you to keep those concepts
07:35 when we talk about the different types of cancer.
07:38 You know, skin cancer is not that,
07:40 you know, not a dangerous thing, but what is that?
07:42 Prolonged exposure to, you know, the sun.
07:45 Now we're supposed to have some sun,
07:47 but, you know, when the burning happens and all that,
07:49 this tanning beds that's something
07:51 we weren't designed to have, so prolonged exposure.
07:55 Now if you think, well, our children,
07:58 did you know that secondhand smoke,
07:59 they've done some studies with little babies.
08:02 And if you're a smoker around a baby, guess what?
08:05 Your baby gets that secondhand smoke.
08:07 And that secondhand smoke in a baby's lungs
08:10 again makes that baby's risk of lung cancer going up.
08:14 Prolonged exposure over a long period of time
08:17 raises the risk of cancer.
08:19 So if you think of it logically, Charles,
08:21 the real problem is not the cancer,
08:24 it's the prolonged exposure to an environment
08:26 that we weren't supposed-- designed to have.
08:29 Genetics might play a little bit of a role,
08:31 but remember our genetics don't change that quickly.
08:34 So it's an exposure.
08:36 Now later on, we're gonna talk about
08:37 what to do if you have that.
08:39 So that's the number one
08:40 cause of cancer death is lung cancer.
08:42 Now let's talk about number two.
08:43 You got that right, that's colon cancer.
08:46 And so that begs a question
08:47 what have we prolonged exposed
08:49 our bodies to that causes that?
08:50 Charles, right. What's the prolonged exposure
08:53 that causes colon cancer?
08:55 Let's think about it for a moment.
08:56 Well, we were originally designed,
08:59 remember the original design to eat plants?
09:02 Plants, yeah. We were herbivores.
09:04 Our bodies look like herbivores.
09:06 You know we have flat teeth.
09:08 We don't make a lot of acid in the stomach.
09:10 We have a long intestine to absorb things.
09:13 We were designed to eat a plant-based diet.
09:16 That was what was given to us in the original plan. Correct?
09:20 Yes. Well, in colon cancer,
09:23 okay, there's a doctor named Dr. Burkitt,
09:25 who did studies in Africa at one time,
09:28 Burkitt's lymphoma.
09:29 Oh, yes. And he studied people.
09:31 He said, "The Africans never get cancer."
09:34 And he looked at their diet and they do not eat meat.
09:37 They do not have these things.
09:39 Well, if you look at carnivores, what do they look like?
09:41 They have big sharp teeth.
09:42 They make 10 times the acid that we do
09:45 and they have a very short bowel.
09:47 So, you know, they're used to having this, we're not.
09:50 So if you think about it,
09:51 when we have prolonged exposure to meat carcinogens,
09:56 that prolonged exposure, you know, meat breaks down
09:59 and has these bile salts.
10:01 And we know that bile salts
10:03 when prolonged exposure to the intestinal wall causes cancer.
10:08 So prolonged exposure to meat,
10:10 dairy products leads to colon cancer.
10:13 Now how does fiber help?
10:15 Well, fiber helps improve the transit time
10:18 through the bowel so things don't stay around as long.
10:21 In fact, it's estimated
10:22 that if we have about 12 grams of fiber
10:24 or one big bran muffin a day,
10:27 this can lower the risk of colon cancer
10:29 and may be save 50,000 lives.
10:31 And how much fiber is in meat?
10:33 You know very little fiber. Okay.
10:35 And yet, if you think about it this way,
10:37 normally meat, you know, we have meat.
10:39 Normally, we put meat, eggs,
10:41 and cheese in a refrigerator, yes.
10:43 'Cause if we don't put in a refrigerator, it spoils.
10:46 So when you put that into a system
10:48 that wasn't designed to happen,
10:50 a prolonged exposure especially at night,
10:53 it gets in you and literally it spoils at night.
10:55 A warm moist environment. 98.6 warm in you, you know?
11:00 And it's not--we're not made to be that way.
11:02 So we have a prolonged exposure.
11:03 We don't have the acid to digest it easily
11:05 'cause we're not a carnivore.
11:07 So it sits and you're churning, trying to digest that protein.
11:10 It eventually gets in the intestine.
11:12 You have prolonged absorption time
11:14 'cause you're not having fiber.
11:16 We have these bile salts
11:17 and other carcinogens come into contact with the bowel wall.
11:20 All the diseases that the animal have,
11:22 all the hormones that the animals have will get--
11:25 and all the other chemicals to preserve it
11:27 get absorbed into your body, goes to these cells
11:30 that weren't designed to happen and guess what happens?
11:32 It raises the chance of developing colon cancer.
11:36 In fact, and I know you've read T. Colin Campbell's book,
11:39 "The China Study." Yes.
11:41 He looked at people in rural parts of China
11:44 who ate a plant-based diet
11:46 and he didn't find this evidence of cancer.
11:49 And then we looked at the western world
11:51 and cancer rates were on the rise.
11:53 Prolonged exposure to substances
11:56 we weren't designed to have causes chemical problems.
12:00 It goes against the original design.
12:02 So just by eating fiber, lots of fiber,
12:04 avoiding these exposures, we can lower the risk of cancer.
12:09 Isn't that something?
12:10 That is amazing. Not only prolonged exposure,
12:12 but also an abundance of,
12:16 if you eat a little piece of meat
12:18 like they did a 100 years ago, but vegetables all around,
12:21 somehow your body is able to handle that.
12:22 But we have switched that.
12:24 We eat more meat than vegetables now
12:26 and that prolonged exposure over this time
12:28 is causing all kinds of problems in our bodies.
12:30 Right. And if we look at the diet,
12:32 we've had more, you know, we eat more animals.
12:34 We eat more fast foods.
12:36 We eat more processed foods
12:37 and our stomachs aren't designed to have
12:39 and not only does it cause cancer,
12:41 but it causes acid reflux,
12:43 acid bubbles up into the esophagus.
12:45 It causes esophageal strictures
12:47 and yet we designed medicines to treat those symptoms--
12:50 Yes. To treat the symptoms of cancer
12:52 and we've got screening tests
12:54 and we're gonna talk about those later.
12:55 But we don't get at the cause.
12:57 So you're making a connection then
12:58 between cancer rates and what we eat?
13:01 Right, at least on colon cancer. Yes.
13:03 Now we're gonna go to a break in a second,
13:05 but after we come back from the break,
13:06 I'm gonna talk about a third common cancer
13:09 and the prolonged exposure to that chemical
13:11 and all women will be interested in this
13:13 'cause we're talking about breast cancer next. Absolutely.
13:15 So we're gonna talk about that after we go to a break.
13:17 Okay, we'll have our break and when we come back,
13:19 we're gonna be talking about these topics and others,
13:22 plus also answering your questions.
13:24 So stay right where you are.