Participants: James Marcum & Charles Mills
Series Code: UP
Program Code: UP00042A
00:16 We look to it as our savior.
00:18 We depend on it to keep us alive.
00:21 We place our trust in it each time we swallow a dangerous drug
00:27 Maybe that's not a good idea Stay tuned...
00:32 I'm Dr. James Marcum
00:34 Are you interested in discovering the reason why?
00:37 Do you want solutions to your healthcare problems?
00:40 Are you tired of taking medications?
00:43 Well, you're about to be given the Ultimate Prescription.
00:50 Are you ready for a shock? Here we go...
00:53 Researchers recently reported that 70% of Americans
00:58 are on a prescription drug. 70%
01:01 That doesn't include over-the- counter medications.
01:03 We're consuming drugs like candy,
01:05 and paying a terrible price for the privilege,
01:08 but we're just doing what the medical establishment
01:10 tells us to do, right?
01:12 Dr. Marcum, I know this concerns you... tell us why.
01:15 Yeah, it concerns me for a number of reasons.
01:19 One of the reasons is sometimes medications,
01:22 though there is a place for it,
01:24 it's maybe not used the way they were designed to use.
01:28 Remember, medications were originally made to get people
01:32 over a short period of time.
01:35 In order that they can get their
01:36 own physiology back to the way it should be.
01:39 It wasn't necessarily meant to be given for years,
01:42 and years and years and years.
01:44 Also, all the plethora of things we see over-the-counter...
01:49 Right now, about 4 billion prescriptions are written a year
01:53 and who knows how many over-the-counters.
01:56 The #1 cause of fatal gastrointestinal bleeding
02:00 last year, in America, was by a class of drugs called
02:05 "nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs"
02:09 The #1 cause of liver failure, causing transplantation,
02:14 was too much of a chemical called "acetaminophen"
02:17 Sometimes that's something that's even found in
02:20 Tylenol as well as others, and that's too much of it.
02:24 The point is that we ingest a lot of chemicals and sometimes
02:29 we don't necessarily have to have these,
02:31 and yet, we're taking the risk.
02:33 Everything that we put in our bodies,
02:35 hopefully, has some benefit, but it also has risk,
02:39 and we must constantly be looking at the risk and benefits
02:43 of everything we put in our body.
02:45 Now when you say everything, you're talking about
02:47 even the things from over-the-counter?
02:48 Yep, over-the-counter, the different foods we eat,
02:51 the different toxins we're exposed to,
02:54 even the different thoughts we have,
02:55 have a chemical consequence.
02:57 So this article where they found 70% of Americans are
03:02 on a prescription drug, I said, "Wow, that's amazing"
03:05 Now these are Mayo Clinic researchers,
03:08 and they reported this article to CBS in Atlanta,
03:12 and they found that most of the people that were on the
03:15 medicine, 17% take antibiotics,
03:18 13% of the population are on antidepressants,
03:22 13% in this study were on pain killers,
03:28 and, get this Charles, 20%, 1 in 5 of American patients
03:33 were on 5 or more prescription medications.
03:38 So, if you look at this, 2 of the reasons were
03:41 for pain and depression.
03:43 That's a large number of people!
03:45 So, are there any other things that we can do
03:47 without taking this risk?
03:49 Now, the "Institute for Healthcare"
03:51 ...okay, everyone is concerned about cost right now.
03:54 They said that we could save 213 billion dollars
03:59 by just not prescribing so many medications.
04:02 Medication overuse...
04:04 And if you think about it, there are other flaws
04:07 in the systems as well.
04:09 Now we have an "American Cancer Society"
04:11 We have an American Society to help heart disease...
04:16 But I'm suggesting maybe we need an American Society for
04:19 the Responsible Use of Medications! YES
04:22 With that in mind, that's why I wrote the book,
04:24 "Medicines That Kill"
04:25 so we could be AWARE that there's a problem.
04:28 A lot of people aren't aware that there's a problem.
04:30 Now I'm not saying that there's not a place for medications,
04:34 but I think we've created a problem.
04:36 And in this book, I argue that the #1 cause of death
04:40 last year, if you added up from all the different causes,
04:44 whether it be from people not taking the medicines right,
04:48 and adverse reaction, overdoses,
04:52 foreign lands not putting the active ingredient in it,
04:55 doctors and nurses making mistakes,
04:57 patients making mistakes - taking pills at the wrong time
05:01 for different medical conditions,
05:03 that it would add up to be the #1 cause
05:05 of death in America. Scary huh?
05:08 So here we are, dumping the #1 cause of death in America
05:11 down our throats, as a regular basis...
05:14 You make a case so often on this program that it is not
05:18 the medicines that cure us,
05:20 it is the changes in our lifestyle and the changes
05:23 that we've been reading about knowingly by the
05:25 things that we do.
05:27 Where are we going with this thing?
05:28 How can we make the transition then from depending
05:31 on medicines to depending on
05:32 what God had in mind for us to begin with?
05:34 Well, I think the first is to realize that there's a problem.
05:38 You know, and for everyone out there, I hope that they realize
05:40 that this is a problem and if
05:41 you're on a medication, I would ask yourself...
05:44 "Do I need to be on this medication?"
05:46 "Is there anything else I can do to change my
05:49 physiology, so I don't have to be on the medicine?"
05:51 That's it! Is there anything else I can do...
05:52 And you have told us time and time again on this program
05:55 that there usually is, 95% of the time
05:58 there's something else we can do.
05:59 I had a patient, Charles, that came not too long ago,
06:02 and she came to me because of chest pain.
06:04 She was in her early 50s...
06:06 And if I weave back through her story,
06:08 it was very interesting.
06:10 She had been an executive secretary that
06:14 needed to wear high heel shoes every day,
06:17 and she wore high heels to work every day,
06:20 and after 20 or 30 years, guess what?
06:22 She had bad foot problems.
06:24 When she had these bad foot problems,
06:27 she had to see a podiatrist;
06:28 he had to do some operations on her and guess what?
06:32 She quit going to the gym, she gained some weight.
06:35 She's now taking some medicines because her
06:37 foot hurt so much, she gained some weight,
06:40 ended up getting diabetes and high blood pressure.
06:43 She couldn't sleep good at night,
06:44 so she took a sleeping pill.
06:46 She noticed more acid in her stomach,
06:48 so she took an acid pill.
06:50 She got a little depressed, so she started
06:52 taking a depression pill and one thing led to another,
06:57 and sooner or later, she came to me because
06:59 of chest pain.
07:00 Well, if you look at the whole situation here,
07:03 you know, one little thing, one stressor
07:07 might have prevented this terrible cascade...
07:10 And I see that sometimes with medications.
07:12 I'll ask a patient, "Well why are you on this medication?"
07:15 And they go, "I don't remember,
07:17 it was started 25 years ago and I don't even know why"
07:21 And everyone is afraid to take it off.
07:23 They're afraid that it was for something important to do!
07:25 And yet, everyone is afraid to take it off.
07:28 And it's very interesting that scenario,
07:31 so I think in understanding this problem of
07:33 medications and how to get off of it,
07:36 I think the first step is to recognize that we have a
07:39 problem as a society.
07:41 The second thing that I think is very important to know
07:44 is that you can do something about it.
07:48 You know, you might have to some research;
07:51 you might have to talk with your physician,
07:52 but there are many medications that you might not need to take.
07:55 You can change your chemistry by doing something else.
07:59 For instance, one of the most common classes of medications
08:03 now are sleeping pills...
08:04 You've heard of those, haven't you? Oh yes
08:05 Now sleeping pills are very common.
08:07 Well, if someone is just not sleeping well
08:10 because they're drinking a Mocha Joe,
08:12 and watching TV at night.
08:14 Maybe they could quit doing that and be off that medication.
08:16 A lot of people, as we saw here,
08:19 a lot of people are on pain pills.
08:22 Well maybe if we could find out what's causing the pain,
08:24 maybe some physical therapy, maybe some exercising,
08:28 maybe to fix something wrong,
08:29 maybe they don't have to take that THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.
08:32 Maybe if we could find the real cause of depression,
08:35 is it nutrition? is it vitamin D?
08:37 is it situational depression?
08:40 Maybe they could find out what is causing depression,
08:42 and they might not have to be on THAT the rest of their life.
08:45 What about blood pressure?
08:46 Well maybe if they start to exercise,
08:48 and eat a little bit better, maybe they don't have to
08:50 be on a blood pressure medicine.
08:52 Or one for diabetes for the REST OF THEIR LIFE.
08:54 So I think you can see here, if people are willing
08:57 to make some changes on their own,
08:59 they can change their chemistry.
09:01 I tell people, "When you exercise,
09:03 it changes the chemistry of the entire body.
09:06 When you eat right, the chemistry of the entire body
09:09 When you rest well, the chemistry of the entire body
09:13 When you think right and your happy,
09:15 the chemistry of the entire body...
09:17 But the chemistry that we did these medications,
09:21 usually just change 1 or 2 chemical pathways.
09:24 It doesn't affect the whole body for the good.
09:26 So, how would you want to change your chemistry?
09:30 I'm going to have that more universal approach to it
09:33 because everything we do...
09:35 We're only here for, you know, 4 score and 10 years,
09:37 whatever it is we live.
09:38 We want to make sure that everything we do is
09:41 good for the whole body and we want to help our heart,
09:44 when we help our liver, when we help our kidney,
09:46 and when we help our stomach - we want to make sure that
09:48 we do that from a universal way.
09:49 WHAT ARE SOME OF THE UNIVERSAL TOOLS
09:53 you're talking about here that we should be doing
09:55 INSTEAD of taking all these medicines?
09:56 Yeah, and first you have to talk with your doctor
09:59 to see exactly why you're on
10:01 the medication - because THAT'S the Key
10:02 is understanding WHY you're on the medication.
10:05 Why were you put on it in the first place? That's the key!
10:08 And then, once you understand why, working with your provider,
10:12 to come up with a plan.
10:13 Is there some things that you can do NATURALLY
10:16 to maybe not need it?
10:17 Can you exercise more? Can you eat better?
10:19 Can you be done with this infection
10:22 you know, or do you have to take it.
10:23 Some of the medicines are just written because
10:25 no one is willing to stop it!
10:27 There's no even reason for it.
10:29 One of the most things, when I talk to people like
10:31 Dr. Hans Diehl, with the CHIP Program...
10:32 When I talk to people that live in institutions,
10:35 what they discover is, when people make these changes,
10:39 the medicine load drops off.
10:41 I mean, it's just - they start, don't need that anymore,
10:44 don't need that anymore, don't need that anymore,
10:46 so there is proof of what you're saying here,
10:49 so many times...
10:50 WHY don't we want to do that?
10:52 Why is it so hard for us to say,
10:53 "Okay, I'm eating wrong or I'm not exercising enough. "
10:57 I can do that or I can take the pill...
10:59 TOO MANY PEOPLE, according to your statistics here
11:02 are taking the pills instead of doing these changes.
11:05 Why is it so hard to do that?
11:06 Yeah, and they look at this number 70%,
11:09 that's a failing grade. YEAH!
11:11 That's 70% of the people who are refusing
11:14 to make the lifestyle changes,
11:15 and want to use the medicine instead to fix the problem.
11:17 Part of it is that and part of it is their culture.
11:20 You know, it's easier to give a medicine...
11:22 As a doctor, it's easier to give a medicine,
11:24 rather than to counsel them and to make them responsible
11:26 and teach them how to do things.
11:28 As a patient, it's easier to just take medicine
11:31 rather than to make the lifestyle changes
11:33 that can change your whole chemistry for the good.
11:36 It's just, you know, for a lot of our sake, it's easier.
11:39 Now it's not this way everywhere in the world.
11:42 But in our country, 7 out of 10 people are taking medicines.
11:46 Well now, you just said something that's very important.
11:49 Are there places in the world where we can go see examples
11:53 of this very thing - where people are NOT depending
11:56 on medicines so much, where these
11:58 lifestyle diseases don't exist.
11:59 If we can find those places, we should study them
12:02 to find out what they're doing
12:03 differently... Has that been done?
12:04 Yes, they have done that and they've gone to different
12:07 islands like Okinawa and different rural areas
12:10 where they didn't have all this... and guess what?
12:13 Those people don't have the chronic diseases.
12:15 Now a lot of the medicines we are on, are to treat symptoms.
12:19 They're not to treat causes.
12:21 And symptoms of chronic diseases. Exactly!
12:23 So the problem is the chronic diseases.
12:27 And we talk about, well the chronic diseases,
12:29 where does THAT come from?
12:31 And the chronic diseases come from our lifestyle,
12:34 the stress we're under as we've
12:35 moved away from God's perfect plan.
12:38 It's put more stress on the body.
12:41 People want solutions for that stress,
12:43 so they look instead of biblical solutions,
12:46 sometimes they look for just temporary solutions
12:49 just help me numb the pain,
12:50 just help me go to sleep,
12:52 just help me get the acid out of my stomach...
12:54 Whatever that might BE...
12:56 And people will do that and they think it's the
12:59 right thing to do because their doctor told me to do this.
13:02 You know, the news... I saw a commercial,
13:05 the commercial SAYS - "If I want this,
13:07 I'M GOING TO DO THIS!
13:08 If I can't do this, I'm going to do this!
13:10 And it's sort of the advertising, the marketing
13:13 in our society has created the place we're in today.
13:16 So 70% in this Mayo Clinic article, in my opinion,
13:20 is a failing grade.
13:22 Well, we need to do something about that
13:23 not only in our country, but also in our own lives,
13:26 and we're going to talk about what we can do
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