Wonderfully Made

The Truth Will Set You Free Pt.1

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Participants: Neil Nedley, Rise Rafferty

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00:35 Welcome to "Wonderfully Made"
00:37 Today, we have Dr. Neil Nedley with us
00:39 And I think my first exposure to Dr. Nedley was through
00:41 some of the books he has written...
00:43 "Proof Positive," and one on depression...
00:45 I've also heard you lecture, Dr. Nedley,
00:47 and I hear that you give some depression recovery programs.
00:51 Yes, in fact, that's part of the most gratifying things that
00:56 we have accomplished, I think, is the
00:58 "Depression Recovery Program"
00:59 It's actually being utilized in many cities throughout
01:03 the U.S., as we're speaking here today.
01:05 It's an 8-part series, an 8-week series
01:08 It's one night a week for 8 weeks.
01:10 And, it actually has been shown to be much more effective
01:14 than medications in depression recovery
01:17 In fact, a lot of people are able to get off of their
01:18 medicines after completing the educational component
01:22 in depression recovery...
01:24 what we're putting into our body,
01:25 and what we're doing with our body.
01:27 That's incredible... One thing that I really
01:29 appreciate about you, as a physician, is your
01:32 effort to educate the public, and give them information
01:36 to actually help them prevent making an appointment
01:39 to have to go see you.
01:40 Yes, there is a lot of good scientific information
01:43 that's been out there, and published by
01:45 major universities, but the average citizen just doesn't
01:48 know about it... Right
01:49 It might get in medical journals
01:51 It may get in some obscure nutritional journal
01:54 And, it may be a landmark study...
01:56 and unless they hear about it from us...
01:58 who are actually treating patients,
02:00 and educating the patients, they won't be able to alter
02:02 their lives and positively benefit from it...
02:04 So, we need to get this information out... Absolutely!
02:07 To introduce our subject today, I just want to share with you
02:10 a quote that I can relate to a little too well...
02:13 It's from Mark Twain, and he said,
02:14 "I have been through some terrible things in my life,
02:18 some of which actually happened"
02:20 And I don't know about you, but sometimes we can have some
02:22 distortional thinking, and yet it affects our reality
02:26 in such a real way...
02:27 And I think the title of the subject today is...
02:31 "The truth will set you free"
02:32 Absolutely... in fact, that's one of the most
02:35 exciting things that has been done in the last generation
02:37 in regards to mental health research...
02:40 is the type of therapy that can actually improve
02:44 brain function significantly is NOT traditional psychotherapy
02:48 Traditional psychotherapy is what many of us learned in
02:51 college, and you know, the Emerson theory,
02:55 and the Freud theory, and there is all of the
02:57 great psychotherapists in the past...
03:00 and the reason why they're called "theories"
03:01 is because they were never proven in practice
03:04 to be better than taking a placebo
03:06 In fact, every time their studies have been put into
03:10 a randomized trial, no better than placebo
03:14 In fact the current issue of "Scientific American Medicine"
03:17 ...the current textbook states that traditional psychotherapy
03:20 has never been shown to be superior to taking a placebo
03:23 in treating depression, or other mental illnesses
03:26 And so, it's something that is exciting... there is a type of
03:30 therapy that can help, and that therapy is called
03:34 "cognitive behavioral therapy"
03:36 Tell me a little bit about cognitive therapy...
03:39 Well, a cognition is a thought.
03:42 And so, what our viewers are thinking right now
03:45 is actually their cognitions...
03:48 And we have them analyze their thoughts
03:51 ...their silent self-talk
03:55 That's the first step of cognitive behavioral therapy
03:58 is to analyze your thoughts
04:00 And then the second step is to try to detect
04:04 distortions in those thoughts.
04:07 And, of course, in order to do that,
04:09 you have to be taught the 10 common cognitive distortions
04:13 that are done by people throughout the world
04:15 ...to see if those thoughts are distorted.
04:18 And then after we find out if those thoughts are distorted,
04:22 which often they are, we then line up those thoughts
04:25 with what is accurate,
04:26 and we re-phrase those thoughts into an accurate setting
04:29 and that requires, a lot of times, where people habitually
04:32 having distorted thoughts, they'll have to write down...
04:34 "Okay, what is the accurate thought"...
04:35 they'll write it down, and then every time they
04:38 think the distorted thought, they'll say...
04:39 "No, that's distorted, I'm going to think this instead"
04:42 And they will think the accurate thought
04:45 And as that becomes a practice, they will significantly
04:49 improve their depression, and a number of other
04:52 mental illnesses can improve with
04:54 cognitive behavioral therapy
04:55 So the truth that's going to set us free make come from
04:59 an external source to try to give us the correct picture
05:02 of what we are actually thinking lies about in our own
05:06 thought processes...
05:07 Yes, it can come from an external source
05:10 It's actually good to study some absolute truths
05:15 in order to be able to pick up the micro truths
05:18 And I think that's why Scripture fits so well with
05:22 cognitive behavioral therapies because there is macro truths
05:25 that are there...
05:26 And as we start focusing in on things that are true
05:29 in principle all the time, we can more easily pick up
05:34 the micro errors that we can have in our thinking
05:39 Why do you think we develop this kind of
05:41 distortional thinking?
05:42 Well, part of it is because our brains are a little bit flawed
05:47 You know, genetically, there is no such person with a
05:50 perfect brain
05:51 And so, we are prone to that from genetics
05:54 We're prone to that from our environment to some extent
05:57 and how we've been programmed or raised, or not raised
06:01 in a particular manner
06:02 And then also, we often foster
06:05 these distorted thoughts ourselves, and we dwell on them
06:08 and we can perpetuate them
06:09 to greater heights than they would be otherwise.
06:12 So this negative thinking that we allow ourselves to
06:15 maybe either hear or that we generate ourselves,
06:18 strengthens that distortional thought process
06:21 Yes, particularly if the negative thinking is out of
06:25 proportion, or magnified.
06:27 It's NOT JUST negative thinking in and of itself that's bad
06:30 I mean, there are some things...
06:31 there are everyday inconveniences that occur
06:34 with everyone, but how we describe those everyday
06:37 negative events in our own thoughts,
06:39 and what we think about them, has a lot to do
06:41 with our future mental health.
06:44 So, we're talking in abstracts now... let's bring it together
06:47 and let's get some specifics... What are some of these
06:49 distortional ways in which we think?
06:51 Well, there are 10 cognitive distortions...
06:54 You know, there are 10 commandments
06:56 that the Bible talks about...
06:57 And there are also 10 ways of distorted thinking.
07:03 Distortion #1 is All or nothing thinking.
07:07 All or nothing, that's like when you use words like
07:10 "you NEVER" and "always" That's right, absolutely.
07:13 I have to admit that I'm at fault for
07:16 using some of those words.
07:17 You know, an example is someone who came to my office
07:20 ...he was quite high in our community,
07:22 in fact, he was a state representative...
07:25 actually a state senator, and he was running for
07:28 the U.S. representative which would be a national
07:30 Washington DC office...
07:32 And he was part of the majority party and he got the nod
07:35 from his party to run, and so it seemed like he was going to win
07:39 Well, he didn't win, and he came in and looked at me
07:45 and said, "Dr. Nedley, I've lost the race for congress,
07:49 I am a BIG ZERO" Ohhhh
07:51 And I could tell by the look on his face, he wasn't joking
07:55 He thought he was a big zero because he had lost the race...
07:59 Now was that true? No
08:01 No, just because you lose a race just because you fail a test,
08:05 just because you have a divorce...
08:09 just because... anything bad happens, you lose your job,
08:13 doesn't mean that you're a big zero
08:15 But yet, that's where all-or- nothing thinking will lead to
08:18 And, it can also work the other way...
08:20 You know, many of the athlete people tend to have the side
08:24 of things where if they had a homerun to win the game,
08:26 they think they're the greatest in the world
08:28 and that can set themselves up for mental problems as well
08:31 Pride is one of the greatest...
08:33 Actually, probably the foremost mental health problem
08:40 is self-pride, and that's what produces over-sensitivity
08:46 It's what produces exalted feelings of yourself
08:52 ...as well as highly opinionated things over things
08:55 that you really shouldn't be opinionated about
08:57 ...those are all pride issues.
09:00 People that are argumentative, difficult to get along with, etc
09:04 ...a lot of those are... the basis of it is pride
09:08 and one of the basis of pride is the "all-or-nothing" thinking
09:11 And it seems like you set yourself up when you're
09:14 extremely PROUD, or you have that kind of
09:17 distortional thinking...
09:18 because as soon as someone attacks anything in which
09:22 you feel your pride is based upon,
09:24 then you're down to the nothing... That's right
09:26 Exactly, and that's why people, in fact... as I've helped
09:30 many people with depression...
09:31 ...in fact, we have run many depression recovery programs
09:35 and then we do follow-up
09:38 programs and they will, to a
09:41 person... And voluntarily themselves, I'm not actually
09:44 trying to get them to say this, but they'll say...
09:46 "You know, what I realize now that I'm a whole lot better
09:48 is what led me into this... was pride"
09:52 And so they will start seeing some of the foundational issues
09:55 that produced the distorted thoughts.
09:57 That's wonderful... So you're able to lead these
10:00 people to the truth in acknowledging maybe where
10:03 their distortional thinking is originating from... Exactly!
10:07 Yeah, unless you get the ax to the root of the trees,
10:10 so to speak... It will grow back.. That's right
10:14 You know, a lot of these things that psychotherapists
10:16 have been dealing with are FRUIT and not root
10:20 And if we really want to change what the tree is producing
10:24 we have to change the root... Cut it down... Yeah that's right
10:28 and that's why dealing with just the fruit which is a lot of this
10:32 so-called "traditional psychotherapy"
10:34 doesn't really work that well
10:35 So what's the next one?
10:36 The next one is... Over-generalization
10:39 Now an example of this actually occurred when I was in college
10:44 A good friend of mine who was a pre-med student
10:47 was shy... a nice-looking young man but shy,
10:51 and he had his eye on a girl for about 6 months
10:53 before he had enough courage to ask her out
10:56 He told us how he was going to ask her out...
10:59 And we thought he had a high likelihood of success
11:01 and he comes back to the dorm ... his head is down
11:04 ...he's walking slowly Ohhhh
11:07 He was turned down! That's right
11:09 And I said, "Glen, what happened?"
11:12 And he said, "Neil, I'm destined to be lonely and miserable
11:16 the rest of my life. " Ohhh
11:18 And, what he did was, he over-generalized in 2 areas
11:22 In fact, I even asked him, "What did she say?"
11:24 And, he said, "She said, that she had another event to go to
11:29 and couldn't come with me. " Hmmmm
11:31 So, it was a legitimate reason!
11:33 Legitimate reason, and so I said, "And so you think that?"
11:38 And he said, "Well Neil, I got to thinking about that,
11:41 and I thought that if she just thought HALF as much
11:44 about me as I think about her, she would have changed
11:48 that event and gone along with me... so I'm destined
11:50 to be lonely and miserable the rest of my life. "
11:54 Well, he over-generalized in 2 areas...
11:55 The first area he over-generalized was
11:57 ...Because she turned him down once,
12:00 he assumed, she was always going to turn him down.
12:03 And, he didn't really know that... that was an assumption
12:07 The second over-generalization he made was that
12:10 100% of eligible women had identical taste to hers
12:15 and, thus, he would be endlessly rejected... Right
12:18 People with over-generalization may
12:20 have a fear of trying new things...
12:22 They do have a fear of rejection
12:25 and it can hamper their ability to succeed
12:28 If the creator of the light bulb, Thomas Edison,
12:33 started to over-generalize after his 10th failure...
12:36 we wouldn't have light today
12:39 and you wouldn't be watching this... That's right
12:41 And so, we have to beware of over-generalizing
12:45 ...it's a very common cognitive distortion
12:47 It seems like a common factor in both the all-or-nothing
12:50 and the over-generalization is that identity is so much
12:55 caught up in whether it was for him...
12:57 this lady receiving him, and accepting him and desiring him
13:01 or the other illustration you give... the man with his job
13:05 Especially for men, their identity is so
13:06 wrapped up in their career, or in our relationships
13:10 Yes, absolutely...
13:12 The 3rd cognitive distortion is "mental filter"
13:15 An example of this was a nice Asian medical student who
13:19 was in my class at Loma Linda University Medical School
13:24 ...and after that first semester, we were studying
13:26 anatomy, histology, embryology, gross anatomy,
13:30 and then they have a final test over all of this with the
13:32 cadavers, and you have to look at anatomy under the microscope
13:35 Very difficult, it's probably
13:36 the hardest semester that I recall in my training...
13:39 And, at the end of that test, I got out a little later
13:44 than she did, but I noticed a group of
13:46 students there, and she was crying...
13:47 And I thought, boy, something bad has happened... what went on
13:51 And so I started listening to her, and she started
13:54 talking about the questions that she had missed
13:56 She could think of 17 questions that she had missed
13:59 and she hadn't even gone back to her textbooks yet
14:01 But she knew of 17 questions already.. that she had missed
14:06 and so she knew that there were a whole lot more
14:09 that she didn't realize yet
14:11 She started going over some of these,
14:12 and I recognized that I had missed some of those too
14:15 And so I started to worry a little bit
14:17 But she went home and told her family that
14:20 she was not cut out to be a doctor...
14:23 that she had failed this test...
14:24 That's why she was crying with the other students...
14:26 She told them she had bombed it and failed the test
14:28 ...No use coming back to medical school
14:30 All of her dreams and aspirations, her family's dreams
14:33 were crushed, and finally someone in the family
14:36 said, "You know, why don't you go back for the
14:39 winter semester, biochemistry, physiology,
14:41 maybe you can retake that next semester,
14:45 and just go a year behind, they'll let you do that
14:47 sometimes in medical school, or at least see what you got.
14:51 She didn't want to go back, she was so sure...
14:53 But she finally did, and she brings her test out
14:57 and there it was... minus 17... 83%
15:01 This is, by far, the highest grade in the class! A+ WOW
15:07 And so, all of that focus on the 17 questions that she did
15:10 through that Christmas break ruined her emotional health
15:13 ...her parents' emotional health
15:16 It affected many of the students around her,
15:18 and that's what the mental filter does...
15:20 when we just focus in on the negative...
15:22 And, you know, in life, there's always going to be
15:24 negative things... that we can talk about,
15:26 that we can discuss Yes... there is
15:27 And when we start focusing in on that,
15:30 we become quite imbalanced,
15:32 and it can affect many other areas of life. Um hm
15:36 Sometimes I think it helps when we do have that
15:39 distorted mental filter on, to take a step back
15:43 from that situation, and to try to even find humor
15:46 in it to lift that STRESS that just seems to be wanting
15:51 to suppress the ability for us to think clearly... Absolutely!
15:56 So, what's the next one?
15:57 The next one is... "disqualifying the positive"
15:59 That's distortion #4
16:01 Now "mental filter" was focusing in on just one aspect
16:04 "Disqualifying the positive"
16:07 recognizes there is the positive
16:10 and actually acknowledges it, but then DISCOUNTS IT
16:13 ...that can be even worse
16:15 An example of how bad this can get...
16:17 This was a patient who was in the behavioral medicine unit
16:20 that the psychiatrist asked me to see for nutritional reasons
16:23 so I could try to improve her brain chemistry from a
16:26 nutritional standpoint
16:27 And so, I was talking to her about that,
16:31 and we got her on a better program for a day or 2,
16:34 and then all of a sudden, she said she was going home
16:37 And I started asking her some frank questions,
16:42 and she started giving me some frank answers
16:44 And she said, "Dr. Nedley, there is NO ONE in this world
16:48 who cares a whip-stitch about me" Hmmmm
16:51 She didn't use the term "whip-stitch,
16:53 but it was somewhat equivalent
16:55 It actually gets into another cognitive distortion
16:57 that she also had on top of that.
16:59 And I said, "You know, that's not true... I care about you,
17:03 I wouldn't be here if I didn't care about you...
17:06 there are other things that I could be doing"
17:09 "I notice the staff... they care about you"
17:11 "They actually like to be in your room... they talk
17:13 to me how they enjoy you being in here"
17:15 And she said, "Dr. Nedley, those people don't count" Hmmm
17:19 ...Because they're not part of the real world.
17:21 "Anyone who is part of the real world...
17:23 doesn't care a whip-stitch about me"
17:25 And then I started talking to her about her friends
17:28 I noticed her friends had come in and visited with her
17:29 I noticed her family had been there...
17:31 They had enjoyed being with her
17:33 And she said, "Those people don't count, Dr. Nedley,
17:37 because they don't know the real me"
17:39 "Anyone who knows the real me, recognizes I'm rotten
17:42 to the core, and they can't think anything positive about me
17:45 Well, here she acknowledged those people,
17:48 but then she discounted it,
17:49 and so I called her psychiatrist and told him
17:52 I didn't think she was ready for discharge yet
17:54 It was more than just nutrition she needed
17:57 Nutrition was an important part to help the
18:00 brain chemistry along,
18:01 but she needed cognitive behavioral therapy
18:03 to recognize the distortions in her thoughts.
18:06 I think there's a lot of people out there who are afraid
18:10 of maybe revealing their true selves because they
18:13 fear just that very thing...
18:14 If they really KNEW what I was like, they wouldn't like me...
18:17 No one would be around for me. Yes, that's right,
18:19 and that's bordering on that disqualifying the positive,
18:24 or actually IS breaking that cognitive distortion
18:27 Actually, we have much better relationships when people
18:31 do know the real us...
18:32 And it's only when we try to cover... that we get ourselves
18:35 into trouble... That's right, because
18:37 really, our relationships of love and intimacy
18:40 shouldn't be based on how good I am at ANYTHING
18:44 it's just that I'm a person, and can receive and return
18:49 that love... Absolutely
18:51 So the next one...
18:52 The next one... Distortion #5... Mind-reading
18:56 That distortion comes under a category called...
18:59 "Jumping to conclusions"
19:00 Ohhh... we can be good at that,
19:02 especially in marriages, can't we?
19:04 We just feel like we KNOW what the other person is thinking
19:06 That's the most common exercise that the average American gets
19:11 It should be physical jumping, but it's actually jumping to
19:14 CONCLUSIONS!
19:16 And how we do that and one of the ways is mind-reading
19:19 and we ASSUME that we know what that person is thinking
19:23 And this happened in New York City...
19:25 We had the privilege of going into New York City
19:27 after September 11...
19:28 We put on the first public
19:30 "Grief and depression recovery Program" there
19:32 at the Midtown Hilton in Manhattan
19:34 and we had the people actually express...
19:37 This is a kind of another program, but there was a lot of
19:39 grief and loss occurring at that time
19:41 And it's actually better often for people to write about
19:43 that loss, so that they can log it and then go on
19:49 But when they don't write about it...
19:51 they think they're going to miss an important part
19:53 in the past, or whatever, and they're
19:54 continuing to dwell on it...
19:56 So we had them write about some of their experiences
19:58 and what was happening
20:00 And one of the ladies actually wrote about how she
20:04 met a person, a good friend of hers on the street
20:08 He passed her up, looked her straight in the eye,
20:10 didn't say "hello" didn't say "hi"
20:12 and just kept on walking
20:14 And she said, this is what's happened to people in N.Y.
20:17 They are just NOT normal anymore
20:22 And this is how bad things have gotten...
20:24 Well, she was already planning on how she was going to
20:27 retaliate against this person when she met him again
20:30 for how he treated her on the street.
20:32 Well, I don't know if you've ever been to N.Y.C,
20:34 Rise, but... twice, but I call it sensory overload
20:39 when I walking down the streets of N.Y.
20:41 There's a part of me that likes it because I love people,
20:43 and I'm just like... Yeah, all the ENERGY!
20:45 But then when I leave there, I'm glad I don't live there.
20:48 So, we asked her to check it out...
20:50 We said, "You need to check this out...
20:53 this could be mind-reading"
20:55 And so, she checked it out, and sure enough...
20:57 He had had an announcement at work...
20:58 He had never seen her that day.
21:01 He was thinking about that announcement
21:03 And he wasn't even really looking at anybody
21:07 So once she found out about THAT,
21:09 and what had happened to him, she was much more
21:11 understanding, and I'm glad she didn't start out
21:13 with the retaliation component
21:14 because that could have affected the relationship adversely.
21:18 And so, that's an example of mind-reading
21:20 So communication seems to be such a key in preventing
21:23 that kind of distortional thinking from coming up.
21:25 I know, sometimes, even with my husband,
21:27 he can be REALLY focused on something...
21:29 and I think, "Oh, I've been trying to talk to him...
21:31 he's not interested in what I have to say"
21:33 and after when I try to communicate, I realize
21:36 what's REALLY taking place in his mind
21:38 and then I don't have to take it so personally,
21:40 and feel offended and hurt.. Yeah, absolutely
21:42 And then you realize he truly is interested in you as well
21:46 The 6th one is "fortune teller error"
21:50 This is in people with panic disorder
21:53 have fortune teller error
21:55 They will tell me that when they are feeling that way,
21:57 they're either going to pass out or go crazy... Hmmm
22:00 And I'll say, "Well how many times has this happened?"
22:02 "Oh, many times, Dr. Nedley"
22:04 How many times have you passed out when you felt this way? None
22:08 How many times have you gone crazy?
22:11 "Well, I really haven't gone crazy"
22:13 And so then I'll say...
22:14 "Well then, obviously, that's not a true thought...
22:16 to say that you're going to either pass out or go crazy"
22:19 You need to replace that thought with what is true...
22:22 Let's accurately describe this...
22:23 And as they more accurately describe it,
22:25 it actually HELPS the panic disorder...
22:27 Cognitive behavioral therapy is one of the things that
22:29 helps panic disorder
22:31 Fortune teller error is also assuming that if you do
22:35 something... for instance, you leave a message
22:36 on someone's machine... tell them to get back with you
22:38 ...they don't get back with you,
22:39 you think about calling him again, but you think...
22:41 "Well, they weren't interested, and they're just going to
22:45 think I'm obnoxious"... that's the fortune teller error
22:48 "They're going to THINK I'm obnoxious,
22:51 so I won't call them back"
22:52 And then 2 weeks later, you find out that his
22:53 answering machine wasn't working,
22:55 and he never got the message
22:56 ...And it would have been helpful for you to call back
22:58 And so, that's a fortune teller error
23:00 Another example of a fortune teller error
23:02 is suicidal thoughts.
23:03 People who are suicidal think they know more about
23:05 their future than God does...
23:07 And they DON'T... they think they know their future
23:10 but they have the fortune teller error
23:12 and it's very important for suicidal patients to
23:14 understand this cognitive distortion
23:16 because it will clear their suicidal thoughts once
23:19 they think accurately
23:21 So they start predicting a future event
23:23 and assume that is their reality... That's right, yes
23:27 And don't see any other options out there... That's right
23:30 In fact, that's one of the things that this
23:32 Depression Recovery Program is very helpful in...
23:34 is helping people that have had those suicidal thoughts
23:37 or currently toying with the fact
23:39 because this will bring them hope
23:41 They'll realize there are all sorts of modalities
23:44 they had never any clue of that can help them significantly
23:48 and improve their life from hereon out.
23:50 I think that that can be the greatest benefit
23:53 in facing any one of our distortional thought patterns
23:58 and that is HOPE or FAITH
24:00 and BELIEVING that something positive can actually
24:03 be out there...
24:04 You know, maybe this person ignored me...
24:07 but well maybe he had a reason
24:09 There might have been something positive
24:11 that was taking place in relation to myself,
24:13 rather than always negative... Exactly, yeah, very important
24:16 The 7th cognitive distortion is "magnification or minimization"
24:21 This is where we get things out of proportion
24:24 People that use, what I call the "HTAs"...
24:28 ...the horrible, terrible, awfuls... Oh yeah!
24:31 That is magnification
24:33 And, often they'll use these terms in
24:36 everyday negative events
24:38 It sounds SO GOOD.. you're really describing the event!
24:40 ...HORRIBLE, AWFUL Yeah!
24:42 But that actually has an impact on the brain
24:46 ...On that own individual's brain,
24:48 as well as impacting others
24:49 So the expression deepens the negative impression... Exactly
24:53 And it's good to utilize the correct terms..
24:56 It may have been an inconvenience...
24:57 It may have been something that the person didn't prefer
25:00 But, you know, let's use those terms accurately
25:03 And when people start getting into curse words...
25:06 that's even a worse magnification or minimization
25:10 If you notice the curse words and how they are used,
25:13 they're WAY OFF the scale in regards to what actually
25:16 took place
25:17 And my father, although he probably didn't know
25:20 cognitive behavioral therapy, or the 10 cognitive distortions,
25:23 he taught me growing up...
25:24 He said, "Anyone who uses curse words... it's a sign of
25:27 a limited vocabulary"
25:30 And actually, it is limited, because they are not
25:33 accurately describing things well at all.
25:36 And so, even my own children, I've had to teach them
25:41 ...People with magnification or minimization also have
25:45 low frustration tolerance...
25:46 That's a key of breaking that 7th cognitive distortion...
25:50 We call it... "LFT"
25:51 And the ability to tolerate the everyday frustrations
25:55 of life is really due to breaking the 7th
25:59 cognitive distortion
26:01 And recently they were out on the ball field
26:03 and had their emotions get out of control
26:07 and I didn't let them leave that ball field until they
26:09 sang a song that said, "I-don't-like-it,
26:14 I- don't-like-it... It's-okay, it's-okay... na-na-na-na-na-na
26:16 I- can-stand-it-anyway...
26:20 I'm-all-right, I'm-all-right"
26:22 It took them a while to learn it because their
26:23 emotions were out of control,
26:25 but when they learned that,
26:27 it was helpful for them to realize there are things
26:30 that we don't prefer happen, but we CAN stand it
26:34 ...and when we tell ourselves we CAN'T stand it
26:36 which isn't really true, we get ourselves into deeper problems
26:40 It's probably just communicating...
26:41 rather than saying... "bleepity-bleep-bleep"
26:43 just saying, "I'm disturbed... That disturbed me deeply
26:45 because such-and-such took place"
26:49 That at least gives us an outlet Right...
26:51 Sometimes I think people use the curse words
26:53 just so they can express their frustration
26:55 but there are other ways and I think you taught your boys
26:57 They would be much more effective if they described it
26:59 accurately
27:00 The 8th one is "emotional reasoning"
27:02 Emotional reasoning goes like this...
27:04 "I feel like a dud, therefore, I am a dud"
27:06 Procrastinators have emotional reasoning...
27:08 "I don't feel lie doing anything right now... so I won't"
27:11 And so, we need to recognize
27:13 feelings come and feelings go
27:14 Feelings are deceiving! Yes!
27:16 And so, that's the answer to the 8th cognitive distortion
27:21 And the 9th cognitive distortion "labeling or mislabeling"
27:24 This is when we use terms for ourselves, or for others
27:27 that are not really accurate and can get us out of control
27:30 We've had people with obesity label themselves as pigs
27:34 and then go into the refrigerator and eat the
27:36 whole half-gallon of ice cream!
27:38 And so, that's not helpful.
27:40 "Personalization" is the last one.
27:42 ...And that's where we confuse INFLUENCE with CONTROL
27:45 And we think we have control...
27:47 But we really have influence, and we can really
27:49 get that out of proportion.
27:51 Thank you, Dr. Nedley, again for a wonderful program...
27:53 My pleasure, Rise!
27:55 You know, the Bible says that...
27:56 "As a man thinks in his heart, so is he"
27:59 And I hope that today's program will help you not only
28:01 in maybe identifying some distortional thought patterns
28:04 you might have, but also in finding
28:07 the truth that will set you free...
28:09 I'm so glad you joined us today!
28:10 Until next time...


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