Participants: Claudio Japas, Hildemar Dos Santos
Series Code: WM
Program Code: WM000412
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Viewers are encouraged 00:12 to draw their own conclusions 00:14 about the information presented. 00:36 Welcome to Wonderfully Made. 00:38 I'm your host Claudio Japas, I'm happy to be with you. 00:40 I'm a Doctoral Student at Loma Linda University 00:43 in the Preventive Care Program. 00:45 Today, we will be talking about a topic 00:48 that affects everyone cancer. 00:51 Cancer is all around us and even though 00:53 we would prefer to talk about the healthy things 00:55 sin has put us calm, thus pandered on human beings. 00:59 And we have to talk about the diseases. 01:01 Joining me is Dr. Dos Santos. 01:03 He is a professor at Loma Linda University 01:06 in the Preventive Care Program also 01:08 and I'm happy to have you with me today. 01:11 Thank you very much it's a pleasure to be here 01:12 and talk about this important topic. 01:15 I believe we can say for sure that every single family 01:21 that we know in this country and why not say around 01:24 the world have one case of cancer in the family. 01:28 So, we've all been affected by cancer one way 01:30 or another maybe not in our family, 01:32 but our neighbor or friend or somebody 01:33 you know. What is cancer though? 01:36 Cancer is development of is when a cell develop too fast 01:43 and grow too fast beyond the normal growth pattern 01:50 and this is because the identity of the cell 01:53 is altered in better terms or in more scientific 01:59 terms is DNA of the cell that is altered 02:03 by any reason and this cells start growing abnormal. 02:07 Cancer is more then 100 diseases. 02:11 It's spread in different organs of the body. 02:14 So, it's basically a cell doing what is not suppose 02:17 to do. Almost we could simplify to that point 02:20 or do producing in the way it's not suppose to. 02:23 And it happens to everyone. 02:26 So, is a something that if we wait long enough 02:28 will happen everybody will acquire? 02:32 Well depends on the lifestyle. 02:34 Sometimes you have mechanisms in your body 02:38 that will fight and will kill the erratic cell, 02:42 cancer cell. And then you don't have the cancer, 02:45 so I would say that everyone has cancer cells 02:49 and depends on how you develop your lifestyle 02:51 you will have cancer or not. For a cell to become 02:56 a cancer cell it takes, it takes about 10 years 03:00 to develop these mechanisms. Right. 03:03 And then the cell will grow abnormally 03:07 and form tumors and then the erratic behavior 03:11 gets worse and the cell lose identity with the 03:14 local part that they are and try to invade, 03:18 go to the circulation and invade other tissues. 03:20 That something we want to avoid. 03:22 We wanna keep the cells from invading from 03:25 reproducing the necessarily from going, 03:27 where it doesn't need to go. What is, is their 03:30 anything new that we know about cancer? 03:32 Cancer has been around for a while, 03:33 so what are the some of the latest findings 03:35 or anything new that we can learn today. 03:38 I would like to start with the old about cancer. 03:42 Okay, fair enough, fair enough. 03:43 And then I have a special message here with this tie. 03:47 That smoking is a still the main cause of cancer. 03:51 Is smoking is related, so if can show 03:53 you a graphic on that you see that the smoking 03:57 is related to several different cancers 03:59 as you see in this picture. 04:01 And 30% of the cancers are caused by smoking is still 04:06 and the interesting part on the slide is that some of 04:12 the cancers are far away from the lungs 04:14 like Pancreas and Kidney and Bladder, 04:19 so those are organs that are not close 04:22 to the smoking, is smoke. 04:24 Where you would think it would be directly affected, 04:27 yes, yes, yes, where the smoke is going in right. 04:29 The Larynx, Esophagus, Lungs. 04:33 So, we are happy that in many countries 04:35 there is a very strong campaign against smoking. 04:38 Because this is still the major cause of 04:41 cancer and heart disease. 04:44 Right, so you share a little about the old and 04:47 about cancer still being the number one killer, 04:50 but you still I don't think have shared the 04:52 new part or any new parts that you may know? 04:55 Yeah the new part about cancer is 04:57 its relationship with the food. 05:01 It looks like the other 30% of cause of cancer 05:06 related to food. One side is the prevention and another 05:11 side is the excess calorie that we consume starting 05:16 when we are kids and then in the adult life too. 05:21 So, I can show you another slide, another graphic 05:26 that shows the relationship of obesity and cancer. 05:30 As you see in the graphic obesity is related 05:33 to a series of cancers like in the Esophagus, 05:36 Intestines, Gallbladder, Breast, Pancreas, 05:39 Uterus and Kidneys. 05:41 Dr. Dos Santos why, why this group of areas. 05:45 I can discuss when at a time like for instance 05:49 Esophagus cancer. The lower part of the esophagus 05:54 if receives acid from the stomach can be irritated 05:59 and then this increase the risk of cancer in that part 06:02 and this is caused because of too much fat in the 06:06 abdominal part that will pressure the stomach up 06:10 and then the esophagus will have this, 06:13 this incidence of cancer. Also obesity will increase 06:20 the production of estrogen and then will increase 06:24 the risk of cancerous female type of cancer like 06:28 breast and uterus and ovarian. 06:31 And then the third cause would be increase of insulin 06:35 and that's an interesting thing. 06:36 Because once you remember in metabolic syndrome 06:40 you have an increase production of insulin 06:43 and the insulin will cause lot of problem as an insulin 06:46 is a cancer promotion agent and will increase 06:51 one of the causes of this cancer is 06:53 because of high levels of insulin. 06:55 Very interesting, so keeping the fat off 06:59 is one of the best ways to decrease risk of cancer 07:03 in those specific areas we have been taking about. 07:07 Another topic on cancer or another area of cancer 07:10 is the fruits and vegetables. You know, 07:13 here five a day and those change periodically 07:15 to other names, but eating lots of fruits and vegetables 07:19 decreases the risk of cancer. 07:22 Some people say well by increasing calories through 07:24 fruits thus increasing my calories or 07:27 maybe gaining weight is this true? 07:31 Theoretically you are right. Some fruits have high 07:36 calorie content, but I don't believe that the epidemic 07:39 of obesity and overweight that we have around 07:42 is caused by excess of fruits. 07:46 Is cause by excess of something else 07:48 that you know high fat, high sugar? 07:50 Junk foods. Yeah, 07:51 that's a cause of this epidemic. 07:56 On the other hands, fruits are very protective 08:00 against cancer. We can see in the graphic 08:04 that several types of cancers can be protected 08:09 if you eat more fruits and you see in the graphic 08:13 that cancer of the mouth, larynx, pharynx, esophagus, 08:18 lungs, stomach, intestines, and prostate can be 08:22 prevented for just eating more fruits in your diet. 08:26 Right, so eating the fruits has more beneficial factors. 08:30 So, we should eat our fruits and eat our vegetables 08:33 because antioxidants they are actually low calorie 08:36 food items like. God created that we should enjoy 08:39 as much as possible and eating a lot of food, 08:43 a lot of fruits would be very filling 08:45 and that would be difficult to eat the quantities 08:48 of calories in fruit like we do with other high density 08:52 foods such as the sugary or the sweets or the fiber 08:55 type of fruits, foods I'm sorry. So, that's why some 09:00 people say well you can gain weight erratically 09:02 yeah like you said that's correct, but most likely 09:05 it's not that way. Next, I would like to share some 09:08 recommendations that are from the American Institute 09:11 of Cancer Research. The slide will show the 09:14 recommendations are given to decrease cancer. 09:17 Such as be as lean as possible. 09:18 Be active on daily basis. Limit consumption of foods 09:23 that are high in calorie. Avoid the sugary drinks, 09:27 which served as a fruit drinks lot of times 09:29 are very high in those. Eat foods of plant origin 09:33 those are natural grown from the earth or from the tress. 09:37 Limit intake of red meat or avoid altogether. 09:41 And limit alcohol drinks or avoid those altogether also. 09:45 So, these are some practical applications 09:47 that we can use daily to reduce that amount of, 09:52 the risk of cancer. What about exercise. 09:57 We have known that exercise has in the effect on 10:01 being healthy, but what about cancer. 10:04 The first think is that exercise indirectly effect 10:08 body fat and so decrease body fat and obesity 10:13 and this should be a mechanism to decrease 10:16 the cancer risk. But, there are some research on 10:19 exercise alone decreases insulin, 10:23 decrease testosterone that is related to 10:25 prostate cancer. Decrease estrogen related to female 10:29 cancers and also exercise produce antioxidants 10:34 like superoxide dismutase a substance that will prevent 10:38 a DNA to become cancer and cancerogenic. 10:42 So, you see in the graphic here the cancers 10:45 that are related to one of the cancer that are related 10:50 when a person does not do exercise. 10:52 So, exercise prevents like cancer in the breast, 10:55 ovary, uterus, pancreas, and lungs. 10:59 That's amazing how just exercising 11:01 and luck you mention at the beginning 11:03 and as was recommended by the Cancer Institute 11:07 being lean and using exercise to be lean 11:09 would be a great way to do that. 11:11 I also remember from the list of recommendations 11:13 that not consuming energy dense food in other words 11:17 commonly known as the high caloric foods in very small 11:21 packages, so very small amount of food with lot of 11:24 energy, a lot of calories that's referring to 11:28 sometimes those could be juices, fruit juices 11:31 because there is concentrated, 11:33 what are your thoughts concerning cancer 11:35 prevention and juices with has highly caloric intakes. 11:40 Well fruit juices itself I don't see any problem 11:47 with that because if it's fresh, but do so. 11:50 So, is almost the same as the fruit 11:53 with the fiber there. The only problem is that some 12:01 studies with children have shown that if children 12:06 substitute sugary foods, sugary drinks like sodas 12:10 and punches or drinks that are sugary for fruit juice 12:17 and they cannot control weight? 12:19 So, if we talk about weight we have to be careful 12:22 about too much fruit juices. 12:27 So, potentially the best recommendation 12:29 would be to use what is the five fruits and vegetables 12:31 a day. Use non-starchy ones or limit the starchy ones 12:35 the potatoes and those kind and also using 12:38 the whole grains, legumes, and using sometimes 12:43 we get tricked with the breads and we look at 12:44 the ingredients and says wheat flour, make sure 12:47 it says whole wheat flour and make sure 12:49 whole grain is there the way God made it all the parts 12:53 all the components, which are very healthy for us. 12:56 And these are related to cancer prevention correct? 12:59 Yes, it is good that you mentioned about 13:02 the amount of whole wheat flour 13:06 and I would go one step further and say that 13:09 you should check the amount of fiber in this 13:12 foods especially in bread when you see 1 gm of fiber 13:16 is nothing so this is refine bread. 13:22 Even the name I say whole bread or whole wheat bread, 13:25 1 gm of fiber is not whole wheat. 13:27 It should be at least three grams of fat per serving. 13:30 Right. And be careful that the serving is one slice. 13:33 Sometimes they put a serving of two slice 13:36 and then you have more fiber and that is no fiber that. 13:40 So, we have to make sure that the servings of fiber 13:43 are how many per slice or per serving is applied 13:46 the best way to say it. Now the fiber the only thing 13:49 we are looking for or how was that beneficial. 13:52 I see you have a display here. 13:56 Well, I just wanna say that these type of foods 14:02 that I recommend for cancer are not just 14:06 for the prevention of cancer and it helps to 14:09 prevent the series of disease. 14:11 Metabolic syndrome, diabetes, hypertension, 14:16 cancer as we see weight control and several other 14:20 diseases and I recommend to the patients up to the 14:24 public that they eat beans everyday. 14:28 And I do as much as possible to eat beans by the way 14:31 we eat a lot of beans today in the 14:35 restaurant here in a lunch time and 14:39 That's very delicious, very good. 14:40 There was a bean soup that was very delicious. 14:43 So, we know we are getting all the good benefits 14:46 from the beans for cancer for multiple diseases. 14:50 Now speaking on alcohol. Does alcohol cause cancer? 14:55 Yeah, I have the Bible of cancer here is a book from 15:00 the American Institute of Cancer Research 15:02 and they are a result of several specialists 15:06 on cancer around the world and lets read what they 15:11 mention about alcohol or ethanol. 15:14 In page 1:57 ethanol is calcified by the 15:18 international agency for cancer research 15:21 as a human carcinogen. So alcohol is a 15:24 cancer producing agent. 15:27 So, it's very clear there and so even when the 15:30 same bugs has limited quantities 15:32 we should cut all scientifically speaking 15:34 because they themselves say it does cause cancer correct? 15:40 Yes, I believe alcohol is a cancer agent 15:45 and if you see in the graphics 15:48 that we wanna show you alcohol is related to cancer 15:52 and them all. In the pharynx, larynx, 15:55 esophagus, intestines, breast and liver cancer. 16:00 Breast and liver cancer especially in women. 16:04 You see that alcohol is really related to cancer 16:08 and I would say and I believe that the alcohol 16:12 is a cancer producing agent. 16:15 Now does evidence show that any amount 16:17 of alcohol is harmful. 16:21 Now it looks like there is no amount especially for 16:24 breast cancer, so if woman has started drinking one 16:28 dose or two dose of alcohol, one dose being small liquid 16:34 or a small cup of liquid or a cup of wine or a beer 16:39 they increase the risk of breast cancer. 16:41 You can see in the slide the recommendation 16:45 that the book, they can say Bible says about cancer. 16:51 It says that evidence does not show a clear level of 16:55 consumption of alcoholic drinks below which there is 16:58 no increase in risk of the cancers and its causes. 17:03 This means that based solely on the evidence 17:06 of cancer, even the small amounts of 17:08 alcoholic drinks should be avoided. 17:11 Reminds me of Proverbs 21, 17:12 where it says wine is a marker, 17:14 so any, any amount of alcohol has been shown 17:18 is harmful to the body. So, we moderately well 17:21 abstain from it, stay away from it, 17:23 knowing that it is harmful when dealing with cancer 17:27 and with the body. Now we know we've talked about 17:31 several ways of preventing several with the exercise 17:34 and the diet and now abstaining from alcohol. 17:37 But, we would like to know what if, how can I check 17:40 if I do have cancer a little bits of cancer 17:42 too attacked as soon as possible or deal with it 17:46 medically as soon as possible, 17:48 which we know would be the best way to do it. 17:50 Are there any kind of indications that 17:52 we could have to deal with that. 17:55 Well it's a tradition in the medical field 18:00 that the best treatment for cancer is early treatment 18:06 and early detection of it. So, they are some cancers 18:10 that you can have some markers related to that, 18:15 but I go first, I will go before that. 18:17 The first thing you have to do is to check 18:20 your family history, to see if you have any cancer 18:25 in the family like if you have a prostate cancer 18:31 for us that may or so. 18:34 The father and grandfather. 18:35 And it is interesting, but you should check if your 18:39 mother have breast cancer then you might have 18:42 high risk of prostate cancer if you are a man, 18:45 if you are women you check if your mother have had 18:50 breast cancer or ovary cancer 18:52 and your father has had a prostate cancer. 18:55 So, all of these are related to hormones 18:59 that might increase your risk. So, first check your 19:02 family history. Second there are some markers, 19:06 so when you have a risk of some of diseases or 19:10 some of this cancer you can ask your physician 19:13 if he can somehow check for this markers like 19:21 if you have prostate risk, so there is a PSA 19:24 that is everybody knows about that and we advise 19:28 that or the authorities advise 19:31 that after 50 years old everybody should know 19:34 the PSA level. And then for women they have now 19:40 one or two markers for breast cancer. 19:45 And is very common that a lady will check her 19:50 family history and figure it out that they have some 19:54 breast cancer in the family then the second step 19:57 would be check for BRCA or BRCA 1 or 2. 20:01 And those are the markers that they have 20:04 they the physicians use to prevent or to detect a risk 20:09 or even a cancer that might be starting earlier. 20:16 So, very fortunate to have science tell us 20:20 or give us those indications. 20:22 So, we can deal with that and number one cancer 20:24 for women is breast cancer and number one for men 20:27 prostate cancer. So, these are probably two 20:29 that as we aged, we should be checking on to make sure 20:34 we don't have those meat. It's a thing that we know 20:40 that science and the Bible are very clear about 20:44 certain meats and even science and 20:47 more and more says meat is harmful. 20:49 Meat has lot of fat, lot of saturated fat, 20:51 it's contaminated with antibiotics 20:55 or different factors that are harmful what does 20:59 cancer and meat have any association. 21:01 Well, I would say that 100% we know that meat 21:05 is related to colon cancer or intestines. 21:10 Cancers in the digestive system is specific 21:15 in the colon. So, what we advise again we have 21:20 recommendations for that and in the book they say that 21:24 a person should not eat more than 300 or 500 grams 21:30 of meat per week specially red meat that means 21:34 11 to 18 ounces of meat per week, 8 ounces 21:39 and I can remember that myself in the past 21:43 I used to eat that in one day 21:45 and many people still use this 300 grams of meat 21:50 per day and that's one thing that 21:52 we have to slow down on meat. 21:55 Or else you have done altogether live it behind 21:58 and know that there is a risk with it 22:00 and not deal with it in fact knowing that, 22:03 That's better. Yeah exactly, 22:04 it's almost like driving a car and knowing that 22:07 if I drive fast there is a higher chance that 22:10 if I do get into an accident the injuries 22:12 will be greater and the damage will be greater. 22:14 Now with our diet is too, how we feed our body you know 22:17 if you know certain things we will put us in danger 22:19 or higher risk or I even deal with it if I put it 22:22 aside get rid of it altogether. 22:26 What are some other recommendations 22:27 that you would have as far as diet 22:29 or to deal with cancer? 22:32 I think there is another important factor 22:35 that is the relationship with biologic 22:37 agents like virus. So, you see that there are some 22:42 types of cancer that are related to virus. 22:45 And then one is the esophagus cancer related 22:47 to Epstein-Barr virus. Okay. So, a person should check 22:51 if the person has the Epstein-Barr virus for that. 22:56 And the most acknowledged or most common is the HPV 23:02 or Human Papillomavirus that is related to cancer 23:07 for the cervical cancer in women. 23:12 So, this is the one that they develop an immunization 23:15 against a vaccine, okay. Especially for girls between 23:20 13 to 26 years old they advise this immunization. 23:27 Even though this cancer is consider a cancer 23:31 transmitted by sexual intercourse 23:36 or related to woman that have a lot of partners 23:42 and then they can be transmitted this virus 23:45 the Human Papillomavirus and increase 23:48 the risk of this type of cancer. 23:50 Alright, now there is another one that 23:53 maybe effect people in the southern zones or places, 23:56 where the sun hits very hard 23:58 and that's skin cancer correct? 24:01 How often should we use some blocker, 24:03 some protection from to protect ourselves from that. 24:06 Every time we go got or after certain amounts of day 24:09 time or other certain places 24:12 what's your recommendation on that. 24:14 That's a good question because we are talking about 24:18 prevention of cancer and then the skin cancer. 24:22 Mostly I would say the skin cancer 24:24 is in the inferior lab, inferior lip 24:27 and then in the nose, in the doors of the nose, 24:31 in the front and in the chin here, 24:35 and then in the upper part of the ear. 24:37 So, this the main areas that we can have skin cancer 24:43 specially a person that has light color skin. 24:50 So, kind of a hat will help on that, 24:53 but you could use the some block that should be effect 24:57 or some protector factor like SPF 30 or higher. 25:02 Correct. The problem is that if you block totally sun 25:07 you decrease the absorption of vitamin D 25:10 and vitamin D on the other hand is one important 25:13 antioxidant that prevents cancer and some researchers 25:17 are fighting now and they are saying that 25:19 you better have more sun. You will have less cancer 25:23 then the cancer that are produced by UV rays. 25:26 So, my advise is that leave more sun in the upper 25:31 extremities in the arms and the legs, 25:33 protect your face and avoid the period of sun 25:37 that is more intense like around 12 that should be 25:43 between 9 in California that I'm from California 25:48 9'o clock the sun is already too strong, 25:50 9 to 3 or 9 to 4 and have the sun. 25:54 Avoid the sun. Avoid that at time. 25:57 And one specific thing is that avoid burning the skin. 26:01 So, if you burn the skin you have this reddish skin 26:04 then you are in trouble because these is the one 26:08 when you have the UV ultraviolet rays 26:11 that will cause mutation in the skin cells. 26:15 Okay, okay, so we want to avoid the burning altogether. 26:19 Once again we deal with the topic of balance were God 26:22 made sunshine to be healthy for us for bones, 26:25 for vitamin D, we need it by moderation 26:29 and the right times of day and to protect ourselves 26:32 from the worst time like you said from the middle 26:35 of the day time, then wear hat, wear some block, 26:37 wear long sleeves at that time 26:39 if there is gonna be multiple exposure. 26:42 I know that cancer once again can hit 26:44 so many places from the surface of the skin 26:47 to inside our body to even inside our bones 26:52 and we want to make sure that we avoid all those 26:54 we know what the risk levels are also knowing 26:57 that foods right have protection against it. 27:01 And even certain drinks may have protection 27:04 against cancer right? 27:06 Yes, I have a drink for us here that is not alcohol, 27:10 is a grape juice and has a lot of antioxidants. 27:14 Perfect. So, this is very good 27:16 for the prevention of cancer. 27:18 We wanna prevent for sure. We thank you for joining 27:23 us at Wonderfully Made, but we can learn about 27:29 how God has created us in the most wonderful way. 27:30 We have made, we have been created in his image 27:32 and we want to avoid all opportunity for cancer 27:36 to attack our body and if starts with a glass of 27:39 grape juice or staying away from the sun 27:43 or eating the fruits and vegetables with high fiber. 27:46 We wanna make sure we are protecting ourselves 27:48 from harmful things. Dr. Dos Santos you have had 27:51 wonderful information for us today. 27:52 I thank you so much for joining us. 27:58 Thank you. We hope that you will join us once again 28:00 for Wonderfully Made in a soon to come 28:03 episode thank you very much. |
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