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Series Code: 3CS
Program Code: 3CS220006S
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04:37 Hello, and welcome to an evening with Paul Helfin 04:41 and Mark Payne. 04:42 Thank you, Mark, for blessing us already with, 04:46 Angels We Have Heard On High. 04:48 Dare to Dream is doing something a little different 04:51 by having a Christmas special with two great artists 04:55 who may be somewhat new to our audience. 04:58 Tonight you're going to be inspired by their music 05:01 and hear their hearts as they share their testimonies 05:05 and favorite Christmas memories. 05:06 So sit back, relax, and be blessed as Mark and Paul 05:11 bring us their beautiful music. 05:14 Our next selection is going to be by Paul Heflin 05:17 who will sing, Mary Did You Know. 05:43 Mary, did you know that your baby boy 05:50 would one day walk on water? 05:55 Mary, did you know that your baby boy 06:01 would save our sons and daughters? 06:06 Did you know that your baby boy 06:12 has come to make you new? 06:18 That this child that you delivered will soon deliver you. 06:28 Mary, did you know that your baby boy 06:34 will give sight to a blind man? 06:39 Mary, did you know that your baby boy 06:45 will calm the storm with His hand? 06:50 Did you know that your baby boy 06:56 has walked where angels trod? 07:02 When you kiss your little baby, 07:07 you have kissed the face of God. 07:12 O Mary, did you know? 07:34 The blind will see, the deaf will hear, 07:39 the dead will live again. 07:44 The lame will leap, the dumb will speak 07:50 the praises of the Lamb. 08:00 And Mary, did you know that your baby boy 08:07 is Lord of all creation? 08:12 Mary, did you know that your baby boy 08:18 will one day rule the nations? 08:23 Did you know that your baby boy 08:29 is heaven's perfect Lamb? 08:35 That this sleeping Child that you're holding, 08:40 that He is the great, I Am. 08:53 O Mary, did you know? 09:33 The first noel 09:40 the angels did say 09:47 was to certain poor shepherds 09:54 in fields where they lay. 10:00 In fields where they 10:07 lay keeping their sheep 10:14 on a cold winter's night 10:21 that was so deep. 10:27 Noel, noel, 10:34 noel, noel. 10:42 Born is the King 10:48 of Israel. 10:54 And they looked, they looked up 11:00 and saw a star 11:07 shining in the east 11:15 beyond them afar. 11:20 And to, and to the earth 11:27 it gave great light, 11:33 and so it continued 11:41 both day and night. 11:47 Noel, noel, 11:54 noel, noel. 12:01 Born is the King 12:08 of Israel. 12:14 We sing noel, sing noel, 12:20 noel, noel. 12:30 Born is the King 12:37 of Israel. 12:44 Born is the King 12:51 of Israel. 13:19 ~ Music ~ 17:08 Paul and Mark, that was so beautiful. 17:10 Away in a Manager; I love the way you 17:13 just put the two melodies together. 17:15 Pull up a chair, let's talk some. 17:17 Because I know that our viewers want to know 17:20 more about you and your journey, and how you got to 17:24 be where you are. 17:26 So let's start with you, Mark. 17:29 Have you always been in the church? 17:32 I was raised in the church. 17:35 But there was a time in my life, I was probably 17:39 in my teens, there were five of us, 17:42 and my brother who plays saxophone was playing in a band. 17:46 And I had never played in a secular band. 17:50 You know, I enjoy secular music at times, but 17:53 my heart was always in the church and with gospel music. 17:57 And he said, "Mark, just play with us one time, man." 18:01 "Mike, no I don't want to." 18:03 "Come on, one time." 18:05 So I consented to go. 18:07 And as you would have it, the Lord set up a scenario 18:11 to where when I got to the place, I knew right away 18:16 this is not for me. 18:18 And by the time that show was over, 18:21 I said, "Lord, if You just get me out of here this time, 18:24 I will never go back there again." 18:27 Because I just believe that for me and my house, 18:31 I can't speak for anybody else, 18:32 but for me, my life, the music that I play 18:36 is dedicated to God. 18:39 So when you started playing, 18:46 did you start playing gospel music? 18:48 Or were you playing like regular little pieces, 18:51 and then you started playing gospel? 18:53 How did you move into that? 18:55 I mean, I was raised in the church, 18:57 so it was, you know, mainly what I heard. 18:59 You know, Christian music, gospel music. 19:03 But I remember coming home from church one Sunday, 19:06 and I had heard this melody. 19:07 If you ask me what the melody is, I couldn't tell you. 19:10 But I came home and just with one finger I started 19:14 playing out this melody of the song. 19:17 And my mother said, "Mark, where did you learn how to play that?" 19:21 And I said, "I don't know. I just heard it at church." 19:24 And I'm just playing it. 19:27 And one thing led to another. 19:29 I was in junior high school and my junior high school teacher 19:34 was talking about people who have perfect pitch. 19:37 And she started playing notes, and she said, "A person with 19:40 perfect pitch, if I play this note, 19:43 they can tell me what it is." 19:44 So she played a note. 19:46 And my ear said, "I know what that note is." 19:50 I don't even know how I knew what the note was, 19:53 because I hadn't had any lessons at that point. 19:55 But I knew keys. 19:58 And so she played a note, and I told her what key that was. 20:00 She played another one, I told her what key. 20:02 Then she played a chord. 20:04 And I could tell her what the chord was. 20:06 She said, "I'm going to talk to your parents. 20:08 You need to take piano lessons right away. 20:10 You have a gift." 20:12 ~ That is a gift. 20:13 That is a gift. 20:15 Like, just being able to know... 20:17 Having perfect pitch is a gift anyway. 20:20 And then to say what chords they were 20:22 without even having taken lessons. 20:24 You just knew? 20:26 Well, I mean, I had some mentors. 20:30 But I had one particular mentor who after church 20:32 every Sunday without fail, and I never asked him... 20:36 ~ You grew up in the Pentecostal church? 20:38 ~ Yes. 20:39 And every service he would say, "Mark, come over here. 20:42 I want to show you something." 20:43 And he would play, and he would tell me what the notes were. 20:47 And he was an organist. 20:49 So he would have me, even during the service, 20:52 to play the keys. 20:53 I would be sitting on the balcony with all my friends, 20:55 and he would motion and say, "Come down here." 20:57 While they're singing, service is going on, 21:00 he's say, "Come down here." 21:01 ~ So I would go down there and he'd be playing. 21:04 And he would stop and he would say, "Play." 21:06 Now my feet can't touch the pedals. 21:09 So he's playing the pedals and I'm playing the keys. 21:12 And that's how I started. 21:14 But I never really had a love for the organ 21:17 until, I mean, at that time. 21:20 And then I had, who is now my mentor, a pianist. 21:25 I heard him play, and I knew when I heard him play... 21:29 And I don't know if I can go on to tell this story. 21:31 ~ Yes, please. 21:32 I was at a church in Washington DC, 21:36 and my mentor was playing, and he said... 21:41 They introduced him and said, "I want four people to 21:44 give me your favorite song." 21:45 So four people named their song. 21:47 How Great Thou Art, Amazing Grace. 21:48 Whatever it was. 21:50 And so, he said, "I'm going to put all these songs together 21:54 and play them in a medley." 21:56 So my mother is sitting next to me, 21:59 who is my biggest fan. 22:01 And so when he started playing, she started weeping. 22:05 And I'm like, what's going on? 22:08 You know, why is this having an effect on my mother? 22:13 And I knew it was God. 22:15 And I said, "Whatever he has, that's what I want." 22:18 And I chased down Henry Davis, if he's watching. 22:21 Henry Mackenzie Davis. 22:23 If you go on YouTube, just type his name in, 22:26 and you'll be blown away. 22:27 He's the guy who inspired me to do what I'm doing right now. 22:30 ~ Wow, praise the Lord. 22:31 Tell us some of the artists that you've played with 22:34 over the years. 22:35 I first started out in Baltimore, Maryland 22:38 I played for a group called, The Thorns Trio. 22:40 James Cleveland discovered them and put them on vinyl record. 22:46 And I played my first recording with them on vinyl record 22:51 at 17 years old. 22:53 And we went to two gospel music workshops and we 22:57 won best female gospel artist two years in a row. 23:01 ~ So you were playing for the female... 23:03 ~ I was playing for the group. 23:05 I just wanted to make sure that people understood. 23:09 You know, it could be a little bit questionable. 23:11 So yes, so you were playing for some female gospel artists. 23:15 And they won the best... 23:16 ~ The best female gospel group for two years in a row. 23:21 And I could name some people who were up against us 23:23 at the time, but it's not able to the competition. 23:25 But just part of the story. 23:28 And then later on different artists. 23:32 I played with Larnelle. 23:33 I got to play on a few recordings with him. 23:36 ~ Larnelle Harris. - Yes, Larnelle Harris. 23:39 And then Dino; I got a call that Dino Kartsonakis 23:43 was going to do a pianorama with five pianos. 23:46 And I got a call saying they were looking for a pianist. 23:51 And they chose me. 23:55 ~ Wow, we love Dino. He's a good friend of ours. 23:58 They flew us out and we did that. 24:00 And just different artists throughout the years. 24:02 But I was more of an accompanist than actually a soloist. 24:06 And that just kind of evolved, 24:08 one thing evolved into the other. 24:11 ~ What would you say has been the greatest challenge 24:15 for you in doing gospel music versus playing for the world? 24:22 Or has there been? 24:25 For me, I don't know that there's been a challenge 24:28 to play that music, because here's the thing. 24:32 When God places you in a place to do what you are 24:36 called to do, He makes provision for it. 24:39 And so, He's always... 24:40 This takes me back to when I used to play for Larnelle. 24:44 I played one song at every concert: 24:47 Great Is Thou Faithfulness. 24:49 And one day here comes another concert, 24:55 which I used to take this for granted. 24:57 And I said, "Lord, do I have to play, 25:00 Great Is Thou Faithfulness, again?" 25:03 And do you know what He said? 25:04 I mean, I heard, it was almost audible. 25:07 He said, "Am I still faithful?" 25:10 He said, "Keep playing." 25:11 Before I could answer, He said, "Keep playing the song." 25:14 ~ You know what? 25:15 Guess what? 25:17 I'm getting ready to ask you to play it right now. 25:18 Now we did not practice this. 25:21 He did not know I was going to ask him to play this. 25:24 But we've got some time, so would you play it for us? 25:31 ~ Music ~ 29:30 Great is Thy faithfulness. 29:37 Great is still Thy faithfulness. 29:42 Morning by morning new mercies I see. 29:54 All I have needed 30:00 Thy hands have provided. 30:06 Great is Thy faithfulness, 30:13 great is Thy faithfulness, 30:19 great is Thy faithfulness, 30:33 O Lord, 30:40 unto me. 30:58 As my husband would say, that was a two-hander. 31:01 That was a two-hander. Praise the Lord. 31:04 To do this on the spur of the moment 31:06 and just, I mean, God has gifted you guys so amazingly. 31:11 Amen. 31:14 ~ Music ~ 34:48 Amen. 35:19 Away in a manger 35:25 no crib for a bed, 35:30 the little Lord Jesus 35:36 lay down His sweet head. 35:42 The stars in the sky 35:47 look down where He lay; 35:52 the little Lord Jesus 35:58 asleep on the hay. 36:11 So be near me, Lord Jesus, 36:18 I ask You to stay 36:23 close by me forever 36:29 and love me, I pray. 36:34 Bless all the dear children 36:40 in Your tender care, 36:46 and fit us for heaven 36:51 to live with Thee there. 36:59 I want to be with You forever. 37:04 Fit us for heaven. 37:09 Each and every day 37:12 would You please fit us for heaven. 37:20 We want to live with You there. 37:25 Fit us for heaven. 37:31 We want to live with You there. 37:35 Would You fit us for heaven? 37:41 Tell us the way to speak. 37:47 Tell us the way to think. 37:52 Fit us for heaven. 37:57 We want to live with You there. 38:11 Amen. 38:12 I want to kind of talk to you, brother Paul, 38:14 because we haven't talked yet. 38:16 Tell us how you started in music ministry, first of all. 38:22 You know, it's interesting you just mentioned about a gift. 38:26 And a lot of times, especially when you grow up in church, 38:29 it takes you a while to realize that it's a gift. 38:35 And it's not yours, but it's His. 38:40 ~ And it comes with a great responsibility. 38:43 So I sang in church, my dad is a pastor, 38:47 for many, many years. 38:51 But I didn't acknowledge that it was His gift. 38:56 You sing all your life, it's what you do, you know. 38:58 He was playing from the very beginning, 39:01 I mean, because it was a gift. 39:03 He had no part in it except to develop it. 39:08 You know what I mean. 39:09 I would be singing and hollering and all kind of stuff. 39:12 My parents were like, "Oh boy," you know. 39:16 But at the same time, you know, they're believers. 39:20 And the message that they're preaching all along 39:22 is that it belongs to the Lord. 39:27 But I grew up in the church. 39:29 So I was always singing, always in a choir, 39:32 always on a praise team. 39:34 But I wasn't converted. 39:39 For many years I lived as a homosexual. 39:42 And that was about 16 years ago. 39:48 And I woke up one day and I said, "Lord, I want my destiny." 39:52 And He just plucked me out. 39:55 And the thing that's so interesting about it 39:59 is that I really learned to live by faith. 40:05 We want the grace of God, the grace that saves, 40:09 but it only works by faith. 40:11 We have access by faith into this grace. 40:14 So I told the Lord, "I want my destiny." 40:18 And He required me to live by faith. 40:21 ~ So this is so amazing. 40:23 I'm so glad that you're sharing this testimony with us, 40:26 and I appreciate your transparency, 40:29 because there are so many people who are battling 40:32 with that whole area of sexual sin. 40:37 Whether it's homosexuality, bisexuality, adultery, 40:41 pornography, whatever it is, 40:44 it's got a stronghold on people. 40:47 And what you are saying is that the Lord has delivered you 40:51 from that 16 years ago. 40:56 If you would, just share a little bit more about how the 41:00 Lord brought you out of that. 41:02 Because I think people need to know there is victory, 41:06 there is victory in Jesus. 41:08 ~ And thank you for saying that because 41:10 I also want to add that that was 16 years ago, 41:14 and I've been married for 10 years to a beautiful wife 41:18 and we have four children. 41:20 ~ And so, you need to realize what the 41:23 enemy is stealing from you. 41:25 Because to steal, to kill, and to destroy. 41:31 And look at what he would have stolen from me 41:33 if I continued to listen to his lies. 41:36 But I want to say something. 41:38 It's always simpler than most people think. 41:40 They think it's a big thing happened. 41:43 No. 41:45 I made a decision. 41:47 "You're right, God." 41:49 That's what righteousness is. 41:51 It's simply saying, "You're right, I'm wrong." 41:53 "But, God... 41:54 You're right, I'm wrong." 41:56 We spend so much time trying to justify our lives. 42:00 Christ is our justification. 42:02 That's what righteousness is. 42:04 "Oh, God, it feels so horrible. 42:07 But you're right and I'm wrong. 42:11 So what have I got to do to make it right?" 42:13 And that's what I did. 42:15 My time in the Word, my worship, whatever I did, 42:18 "You're right, I'm wrong." 42:20 And it began to reshape my mind. 42:23 It began to reshape my thinking. 42:25 The possibilities of what I could do and who I was 42:29 began to change. 42:32 And now I just can't imagine that I ever lived that life. 42:36 When I see people in it, I don't criticize them, 42:41 I don't down them, I don't disparage them. 42:43 I look at them and go, 42:45 "You can be more than you think you can be." 42:49 And see, and I think that's a very important point. 42:52 It's sharing hope with people who feel as though, 42:57 "I can't get out of this situation." 43:00 One of the things that we have on Dare to Dream, 43:03 we have a program, Strategies for Strongholds. 43:06 It's a new program that really addresses 43:09 these different strongholds that have people so bound 43:13 that they feel like they can't get out. 43:15 But you just named some very interesting things. 43:17 You named some disciplines. 43:19 You got in the Word, you were praying and talking to God. 43:24 Without those disciplines... 43:26 ~ And I made a decision. 43:27 ~ And that's the first thing. - I made a decision. 43:29 ~ But you know, some people at first, they can't 43:32 even say, "I want out." 43:35 Even the desire to come out must come from God. 43:40 So the first... 43:42 ~ All from the righteous praying. 43:44 ~ And the first prayer has to be, if you don't want it, 43:47 to ask God to help you to want it. 43:49 ~ Yeah, yeah. 43:51 But you made a decision. 43:53 And God has given us free will. 43:56 So you made that decision. 43:58 And from there you got in the Word. Right? 44:02 And you were praying. 44:03 And little by little the Lord began to work on you. 44:08 Is that what happened? 44:09 Tell us what happened. 44:11 I have to tell you, the Word, the Word, the Word. 44:15 Because the Word of God is the image of God. 44:19 You know how Paul said, "I'm not ashamed of the gospel." 44:22 And he talked about the fact that the Word of God, 44:28 if the gospel be hid, it's hid to who? 44:31 Those that are lost. 44:33 But the god of this world has blinded it 44:35 from the minds of them that believe not. 44:36 Why? For fear that the light of the glorious gospel 44:41 who is the image of God should shine unto them. 44:46 So, the Word, the Word, the Word. 44:49 Let it change the image that you have of yourself. 44:53 I would have never thought of myself as a father. 44:56 I would have never thought of myself as a husband. 44:59 But the Word changed the image. 45:02 Get in the Word of God. 45:04 It will change the image that you have. 45:07 You may have been molested, 45:09 but let the Word change the image. 45:13 You may be full of pride, but let the Word change the image. 45:19 It's the gospel. 45:21 He wants to hide it from you, because if you get in that Word 45:26 it will change who you think you are. 45:28 ~ The enemy wants, again, he wants to 45:32 kill, steal, and destroy. 45:34 God has a plan for you, a divine destiny for you. 45:38 And Satan has a destiny... 45:41 ~ Exactly, exactly, exactly. 45:44 ~ And so, was there a pivotal event that actually 45:50 had you make that decision? 45:52 Was there something that happened in your life that 45:54 made you say, "You know what, I'm done with this. 45:57 I don't want this anymore." 45:59 Was there something that happened? 46:00 I received a call from a brother. 46:03 And he said, "Paul, you have got to come out of homosexuality." 46:08 ~ Now was he a former homosexual as well? 46:11 ~ Ah, yeah. ~ Okay, okay. 46:12 And he said, "There's a call, there's an 46:14 apostolic call on your life. 46:16 I paid him no attention, I was so deep in it. 46:19 And I woke up one morning and I said, "I want my destiny. 46:26 I've got to have Jesus." 46:28 And I'm going to say this, I said, "I grew up in the church." 46:32 It's important to know this. 46:34 There are many people who have grown up in the church, 46:37 but they're not converted. 46:39 They're married to denomination, they're married to tradition, 46:43 they're married to church culture. 46:44 They have never given God their hearts. 46:46 I wanted to say that. 46:48 We need to unpack that just a little bit. 46:51 Because that is so true. 46:53 You can say, "I'm a Christian." 46:56 But everybody that says, "Lord, Lord..." 46:58 ~ Exactly. - Right? 46:59 ...is not going to be in the kingdom. 47:01 So that is a very important point. 47:05 It's not about the label, it's about your heart 47:10 and your relationship with the Lord. 47:13 ~ That's right. - That's the key. 47:14 So go ahead, tell us, tell us. 47:16 So he said to me, "You've got to come out." 47:18 And I didn't pay any attention to him. 47:21 I woke up one day and I said, "I have to have Jesus. 47:25 I've got to have my destiny." 47:26 I called him. 47:29 He said, "Paul, God would wake me up 47:33 at 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning and say, 'Pray for him.'" 47:38 He said, "God, I have to go to work." 47:40 He said, "Pray for him." 47:41 And I just wanted to make that point. 47:43 As you mentioned earlier, strongholds. 47:46 There are strongholds that are choking the life out of 47:50 people, and they will never get out 47:53 unless the righteous are praying. 47:57 Umm, yes. 47:59 Some of us are here today, we only escaped 48:02 because somebody was praying. 48:04 Yes, yes. 48:06 ~ And I never take that for granted. 48:08 I don't look at people and go, "Oh, they're a hopeless case." 48:10 If you pray, they may not be hopeless. 48:14 ~ That's right. 48:16 We can't judge what... 48:18 We can see... 48:19 You know, we are to judge. Righteous judgment. 48:21 We can see, "By their fruits you shall know them." 48:24 We can see their fruits. We can see... 48:26 But it's not for us to say they're a hopeless case. 48:29 The Lord is in control. 48:32 It's for us, and I'm so glad you brought this out, 48:34 it's for us to pray for people. 48:38 To ask God to intervene in their lives. 48:41 I mean, they might not even know to pray. 48:45 We have to intercede for them, stand in the gap for them. 48:49 So yeah, I mean, I think that is excellent. 48:52 We have to pray for people and not decide on our own 48:56 that, "No, that's a hopeless case right there." 48:58 ~ Exactly. 49:00 - Who are we to say that? ~ And it's so rewarding. 49:02 I've got to tell you, sometimes I just lay back 49:04 in the presence of the Lord and He'll give me 49:07 a picture of someone that needs prayer. 49:10 And I'm so glad that I'm not wasting my life being selfish. 49:14 Just doing things that don't matter, don't have any 49:18 standing in eternity. 49:20 I want to look at somebody in eternity, and go, 49:24 "Wow, that person may be the fruit of your prayer." 49:31 You know, you're standing there worshiping, singing with them, 49:33 and they are the fruit of your prayer. 49:35 ~ Yes, yes, yes. 49:37 So right now with your ministry, 49:41 what are you doing with your ministry? 49:43 ~ Well, what's interesting is that I'm writing a book. 49:47 ~ Ah. 49:48 Based on exactly that, coming out of that sin trap. 49:53 Because I've got to tell you, the rallying cry 49:56 of the gay community is what? 49:59 Gay pride. 50:01 And we know what the Bible says about pride. 50:03 It goes before destruction. 50:05 They don't even realize. 50:06 Like you said, they don't even realize where they're headed. 50:09 And it's destruction. 50:14 But it's important that they know 50:20 that God has a plan for them. 50:23 And it is not destruction. 50:26 The enemy's plan is their destruction. 50:30 But that's not God's plan. 50:32 And so, I'm writing a book. 50:34 And I just want to share out of that book 50:39 what God has done for me, and the difference that it made 50:42 even in my ministry. 50:45 People would just go, "There's something different. 50:49 I don't know, you're not just... There's something different." 50:54 ~ And it was God's presence. 50:56 ~ It was about what? - It was God's presence. 50:58 ~ Yes. - It was God's approval. 51:00 You know what I mean? 51:01 Just because God gives you a gift 51:02 doesn't mean He approves of it. 51:04 You know, it's like the Scripture says, 51:06 "Your gift will make room for you." 51:08 And I know many people, their gift has made room for them. 51:11 But they've not done the right thing with the gift. 51:14 There are some phenomenal gifts out there. 51:16 And then there are gifts out there, they just seem kind of, 51:22 they don't seem like they are so fantastic. 51:25 But when you hear them, when you experience them, 51:30 you're like, God is in that. 51:33 ~ It's their anointing. ~ It's the anointing. 51:35 You can hear instruments that, you know, somebody can have 51:39 the greatest instrument, and they sound great, you know, 51:43 and you're like, "Wow, that's a great voice." 51:46 But you're not moved. 51:47 It's not moving you to worship. 51:50 The whole idea, I believe, that with singers and instruments, 51:56 the idea is to get us to worship together. 52:04 This is not about this. 52:07 This is this. 52:08 So it's not horizontal, it's vertical. 52:11 We are worshiping, so join me in worshiping the Lord. 52:16 And that's what I see you guys do. 52:19 And it's such a blessing, that's such a blessing. 52:22 That just happened. 52:24 And that's the only thing I'm interested in. 52:27 Like hearing Mark play, and say, listen, it's that organic. 52:35 Experience it with God. 52:38 That's what it's all about. 52:39 And you know, it's so interesting, 52:42 I was just in Long Island doing a meeting. 52:44 And there was a musician there, he was a worship leader 52:47 and a musician. 52:49 And I sat there going, "He's saved. 52:55 I know he's saved." 52:57 And I think at the end of the service... 53:02 Because the Lord has talked to me about overflow. 53:04 He said, "It's going to be in the overflow, Paul. 53:07 It's just going to be where I just..." you know. 53:10 And the musician was there at the end in the overflow, 53:13 and he was just playing. 53:15 And his eyes were closed and he was playing. 53:18 And I was just there listening. 53:20 That's the overflow. 53:22 That's the overflow. 53:24 And that's all I think people that really 53:27 love God are interested in. 53:29 I don't want to hear anybody perform. 53:30 I can buy a ticket and go and listen 53:32 to a secular artist perform. 53:34 But when it comes to the things of God, 53:36 I want to be drawn into His presence. 53:39 I need the presence of God, yeah. 53:42 And that's what we want. 53:45 We don't want it to be about performance. 53:49 Because anybody that has any kind of gift can perform. 53:54 But it's all about worship. 53:56 And that is what you have done here. 54:00 And I'm just, I'm so grateful that you guys 54:05 came and ministered to us. 54:08 And we're going to have one more song 54:11 from you in just a moment, Paul, talking about 54:16 what we want on earth. 54:19 What do we need here? 54:21 Just tell us like in 10 seconds what we need. 54:25 Peace on earth. 54:28 ~ We need peace on earth. 54:30 So you are going to sing that, Mark is going to play, 54:34 and we're going to be blessed. 54:36 Because we need peace on earth. 55:01 Let there be peace on earth, 55:09 and let it begin with me. 55:19 Let there be peace on earth, 55:27 the peace that was meant to be. 55:36 With God as our Father, 55:45 brothers all are we. 55:53 Let me walk with my brother 56:01 in perfect harmony. 56:10 Let peace begin with me, 56:19 let this be the moment now. 56:27 And with every step I take, 56:36 let this be my solemn vow. 56:44 I want to take each moment 56:49 and live each moment 56:53 in peace eternally. 57:01 Let there be peace on earth, 57:09 and let it begin 57:19 with me. 57:35 Thank you so much, Paul and Mark, for being with us. 57:40 And thank you for joining us on the Dare to Dream 57:42 Christmas special. 57:44 From all of us here at 3ABN, Dare to Dream, 57:47 we wish you a very blessed Christmas and a happy New Year. 57:51 And remember, Jesus is the reason for the season. |
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