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00:44 Now here's your host from Amazing Facts International,
00:48 Pastor Doug Batchelor.
00:50 Doug Batchelor: Welcome once again, friends, to "Bible
00:51 Answers Live," and if you are tuning in for the first time,
00:55 this is a live international Bible study.
00:58 And we're going to share with you an amazing fact.
01:02 Shortly after the first European settlers arrived in North
01:05 America, they were stunned by the immense flocks of a unique
01:09 type of pigeon found only in the New World.
01:12 They were called passenger pigeons.
01:14 And at one time, they were certainly the most abundant bird
01:17 in North America and possibly the most numerous birds in
01:20 the world.
01:22 They flourished across most of North America east of the
01:24 Rocky Mountains.
01:26 A very fast flyer, the passenger pigeon could reach speeds
01:29 of 62 miles an hour.
01:30 As they traveled in great flocks, they darkened the skies
01:34 for hours.
01:36 Estimates placed them numbering up to 5 billion.
01:40 But when they descended to perch in a tree, so many of them
01:44 landed, it was common for branches to break from
01:46 their weight.
01:47 The birds fed mainly on fruits and seeds and insects, and they
01:51 could live up to 30 years.
01:53 Yet, incredibly, these colossal flocks of birds disappeared in
01:58 150 years, and passenger pigeons were soon extinct.
02:03 The main reason for their extinction of the species was
02:06 the massive scale of unrestrained hunting.
02:09 Businessmen saw them as a tremendous food source, so they
02:12 killed them by the thousands and shipped them to the cities.
02:16 Also, the rapid loss of habitat as forests were cut for farming
02:20 and timber contributed to their demise.
02:23 By the time word got out that the passenger pigeons were
02:26 facing extermination, it was too late.
02:29 The last known passenger pigeon, Martha, died on September 1,
02:34 1914 at the Cincinnati Zoo.
02:37 Can you imagine that?
02:38 Going from billions, in a little more than a century, to none.
02:44 And it's just people thought, "Oh, well we can just wait, you
02:47 know, we'll do something later.
02:49 They'll recover."
02:50 Jëan Ross: We mentioned another animal in North America that was
02:53 very prevalent and almost went extinct.
02:56 Of course, that's the American buffalo, and they were able to
02:58 catch it in time.
03:00 But just like the buffalo that would take, you know, almost a
03:03 whole day to cross over the path in front of you, these pigeons
03:07 would darken the sky for hours as they came over.
03:10 Doug: Yeah, Audubon, the famous naturalist, he said that he saw
03:14 one flock that was a mile wide that it took several days to
03:17 pass over.
03:19 In other words, you'd wake up and they'd continue just
03:20 migrating and it was dark in the skies.
03:23 But, yeah.
03:25 They--farmers didn't like them very much 'cause they ate
03:27 seeds, but they flew so low, a farmer with a long stick could
03:31 kill, you know, dozens of them just by swinging a stick.
03:34 And then, of course, they used nets and they use guns, and they
03:37 use sulfur gas, and they said they tasted like chickens, so
03:41 they just killed them all off until pretty soon there were a
03:44 few in the zoos, and they, you know, they were not used
03:47 to captivity.
03:48 They died in captivity, and except Martha was the last one.
03:52 And they got several stuffed in the museums, but that's the only
03:54 place you can see one because they waited too long to do
03:59 something about it.
04:00 And, you know, it makes me think that there's a lot of people
04:03 that they know they can't keep living a life of sin and be
04:06 saved, and they think, "Well, one of these days
04:08 I'm going to repent.
04:10 But they wait until it's too late.
04:13 And that's the most dangerous thing you can do, friend, is to
04:15 play Russian roulette with eternity.
04:18 If you know what God's will is for you, then the best time to
04:22 listen to his voice is when you're hearing God's voice.
04:25 What is it that Paul says in Hebrews, "Today, if you hear his
04:29 voice, don't harden your heart."
04:31 Make a decision to follow the Lord and then stick to it.
04:35 We got a free offer talks about that.
04:36 Jëan: We do, we have one of our Amazing Facts
04:37 study guides, and it's talking about the subject.
04:39 It's called "No Turning Back."
04:41 It's making that firm commitment, and that is so
04:44 important for the Christian.
04:46 We'll be happy to send you one of our--
04:47 we'll send you the study guide.
04:48 All you need to do is call and ask.
04:50 The number is 800-835-6747.
04:53 You can ask for the study guide by name.
04:55 It's called "No Turning Back."
04:56 You can also dial #250 on your smartphone and say, "Bible
05:00 answers live," and you can ask for it that way as well.
05:04 Doug: You know, there's a scripture that comes to mind
05:06 when we're talking about how important it is for people to
05:10 make a decision.
05:11 It tells us there in Hebrews 10, verse 26, and it's also in
05:15 verse 27, "For if we sin willfully after we've received
05:19 the knowledge of the truth, there remains no sacrifice for
05:23 sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and
05:27 fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries."
05:31 And that doesn't mean that if you make a mistake after you've
05:33 learned the truth, it means if you continue to live a life of
05:36 sin after you know what God's will is, then, you know, what
05:40 else can God do?
05:41 So it's just very dangerous, you know, sometimes we're talking to
05:44 people out there that have never made a decision, but now we're
05:47 talking to people that have known the truth, that are
05:50 postponing the decision.
05:52 And we're pleading with you. Don't do that.
05:54 Now, if you have any questions about that or other Bible
05:56 subjects, we're going to have prayer, then give us a call.
05:58 We'll do our best to answer your questions.
06:00 Jëan: Before we go to the phone lines, let's start with the word
06:02 of prayer.
06:04 Dear Father, we thank you that you are a God of mercy and a God
06:06 of forgiveness, and thank you, Lord, that we have this
06:08 opportunity to study Your Word, and we do pray that you would
06:10 guide, be with those who are listening, wherever they
06:12 might be.
06:14 And lead us to a clear understanding of the Bible, for
06:16 we ask this in Jesus's name, amen.
06:18 Doug: Amen.
06:19 Jëan: And if you have a Bible question, our phone line here to
06:21 the studio is 800-463-7297.
06:25 Again, that's 800-463-7297.
06:30 And we have Wynelle listening from Georgia.
06:33 Wynelle, welcome to the program.
06:35 Wynelle: Hi.
06:37 Thank you, Pastor Doug and Pastor Ross, for taking my call.
06:41 I appreciate it very much.
06:43 Doug: Thanks for calling.
06:44 Wynelle: My question is how would a person know if the Holy
06:49 Spirit has left them?
06:52 Doug: All right.
06:53 Well, first of all, most people that worry that the Holy Spirit
06:56 has left them, it's because they're not feeling any, maybe
06:59 peace or they're not feeling any promptings of the Spirit, and
07:03 they're thinking things have gone quiet.
07:05 Does that mean that God has left me?
07:07 Well, if you've made a decision to be a Christian, you're not
07:10 going to always hear the Lord speaking to you directly.
07:14 You may also--the voice can go quiet because God has given you
07:21 some responsibility or some command, and you're
07:24 ignoring that.
07:26 And so, the volume can go down in your communications with God.
07:30 And in a case like that, I think, first of all, anyone
07:33 asking this question, the Holy Spirit's prompting them to think
07:36 about it, so that's a good sign.
07:38 But I'd say that if you're having doubts, and if it seems
07:41 like you're wondering if you're separating from the Lord, then
07:45 just humble yourself and say--claim the promise, say,
07:48 "Lord, you've promised if I confess my sins you'll
07:51 forgive me.
07:52 If I draw near to you like the prodigal son, when he started
07:56 coming home, the father, as soon as he saw him, he ran to
07:59 meet him."
08:01 The Lord will draw near to you if you draw near to Him.
08:03 So, draw near to God through
08:04 prayer, through reading His Word.
08:06 Say, "Lord, speak to me," and if there's any unconfessed
08:10 sin, then present that to the Lord.
08:12 He promises to forgive.
08:14 He wants to save you. I believe He will.
08:16 Jëan: You know, Pastor Doug, we have a book.
08:17 We don't always offer it, but it's a great
08:19 study, and it deals with the subject.
08:20 It's called, "Is it Easy To Be Saved or To Be Lost?"
08:24 Sometimes people wonder, you know, "What do I have to do to
08:26 be saved?"
08:27 And, "Am I heading down the right path?"
08:29 So, call and ask for that.
08:30 The number is 800-835-6747.
08:33 You can ask for the book.
08:34 It's called, "Is It Easier To Be Saved or To Be Lost?"
08:37 And you will enjoy reading that.
08:38 A lot of good scripture there.
08:40 Thank you, next caller that we have is Chris in Minnesota.
08:43 Chris, welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
08:46 Chris: How are you doing?
08:47 Doug: Doing well, thanks for calling, Chris.
08:50 Chris: Yeah, thank you.
08:51 Quick question here.
08:52 Is there any significance to President Trump bringing up 1798
08:56 on a somewhat regular basis here lately, including up to his
09:00 election time?
09:01 Doug: Well, you know, I would have to confess that I had not
09:05 heard it.
09:07 I haven't heard him bring up 1798.
09:09 Have you heard that?
09:10 Jëan: No, I haven't, but I haven't caught all of
09:12 his speeches.
09:14 Doug: So, probably we are not experts.
09:17 We can't give you an answer to that.
09:20 I'd have to say, well, let me hear it and hear what the
09:22 context is, and then I might find out if there's some Bible
09:25 prophetic relevance to that.
09:28 Of course, that is a--the date 1798, for our friends that are
09:32 listening, is a prophetically relevant date in that it marks
09:36 the end of this people persecution that lasted
09:40 1260 years.
09:42 Started in 538 and it went 1260 years.
09:46 And when Napoleon arrested-- through his general Berthier--
09:50 when Napoleon arrested the Pope, the Catholic church sort of lost
09:54 its uninterrupted power over Europe that it had for
09:57 1260 years.
09:59 And so, that's a significant date.
10:00 I had not heard anyone mention that in a campaign, so I'll have
10:04 to plead ignorance to that one.
10:06 Jëan: You know, we do have a study guide that talks about
10:08 these different time prophecies that you read about in the book
10:10 Revelation and in Daniel.
10:12 It's called "Right On Time," and I think it refers to that 1260
10:16 year time period.
10:17 We'll be able to send it to anyone who calls and asks.
10:19 The number is 800-835-6747.
10:22 You can ask for that study guide.
10:24 It's called "Right On Time."
10:26 And you'll enjoy reading that.
10:28 Nadia is in Georgia.
10:30 Nadia, welcome to the program.
10:32 Nadia: Hi, good evening.
10:33 Doug: Good evening.
10:34 Nadia: I was reading a text and I had a couple questions.
10:37 I'll just read part of it.
10:39 "Between the portico and the altar, were about
10:42 twenty-five men.
10:43 With their backs to the temple of the Lord and their faces
10:46 toward the east, they were bowing down to the sun in
10:49 the east."
10:50 I was wondering, could this text refer to Sunday keepers as
10:54 idolaters worshiping the sun?
10:57 And my second question is, do you think that worshiping on
11:00 Sunday is a form of sun worship in God's eyes?
11:04 Doug: All right, well you're quoting from a prophecy
11:07 in Ezekiel.
11:09 Now, Ezekiel is, I don't think he's looking ahead to the time
11:12 beyond Christ.
11:14 I think he's looking at what was happening in Israel.
11:16 One reason the judgment that Ezekiel wrote from Babylon in
11:21 the Persian area.
11:22 And he was living, he's a contemporary of Daniel.
11:26 The Israelites had been carried off captive because of
11:29 their infidelity.
11:30 And while they were going through the outward forms of the
11:33 sanctuary, Ezekiel said that they're still involved in sun
11:36 worship, which was common among the Baal worshipers.
11:40 So, he's referring to something that had happened and that was
11:43 happening where they were engaging in, like,
11:47 duplicitous worship.
11:48 We're saying we worship the Lord but also secretly praying
11:51 towards the sun, which is sun worship.
11:53 Now, you're asking is that--are people who go to church on
11:55 Sunday, are they involved in sun worship?
11:58 Well, it is true the name Sunday is derived from sun worship, and
12:04 a lot of ancient civilizations worshiped the sun, even in the
12:07 Americas, the Egyptians, the Babylonians.
12:12 The sun, I think even among the Romans, was it Apollo?
12:15 Was he the chief sun god?
12:17 And so, that's not unusual.
12:21 When the average person goes to church on Sunday, I wouldn't
12:24 call them sun worshipers.
12:25 I think that, you know, they believe that they're worshiping
12:29 on the Sabbath day, they've just got the days wrong according to
12:32 the Bible.
12:34 They think that--most of them think, well because Jesus rose
12:36 the first day, that the commandment was changed from the
12:39 seventh day to the first day.
12:40 And of course, there is no command in the Bible to worship
12:44 on the first day as a holy day.
12:47 We're supposed to worship God seven days a week, but there's
12:49 no command to rest the first day and keep it as a new Sabbath.
12:53 That's where I think they err, but I don't think any of them
12:57 are praying to the sunrise.
12:59 Jëan: You know, part of the interesting passage there in
13:01 Ezekiel, the prophecy, God told--when the children of
13:04 Israel were to build the temple, the temple was to be laid out a
13:07 certain way and it was from the plans of the one that was built
13:09 in the wilderness.
13:11 The door to the temple, when you came to the door to the temple,
13:13 the east was to be to your back.
13:15 In other words, you were facing west.
13:17 The reason for that is much of the sacrifice was done early in
13:20 the morning and the tendency amongst the pagans as the sun
13:23 was rising, they would bow towards the east and worship
13:26 the sun.
13:27 God didn't want that temptation for His people.
13:29 He said, "The sun needs to be behind you."
13:31 But here are people inside the temple in the courtyard area,
13:35 and their backs are turned.
13:37 Are rather towards the most holy place of the sanctuary, and they
13:40 are facing towards the east and they are worshiping the
13:42 rising sun.
13:43 And that was what was being condemned at that point in time.
13:46 Doug: Yeah, they basically--they're turning their
13:47 back on the worship of God towards pagan worship.
13:51 Good question, Nadia. Thank you so much.
13:53 Jëan: We've got Lee listening in Texas.
13:54 Lee, welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
13:58 Lee: Yes, thank you for taking my call tonight.
14:00 My question is, does the mark of the beast come out before or
14:05 during church and state union?
14:08 Doug: All right, great.
14:10 The Bible tells us in the last days in Revelation 13 that the
14:13 beast power is there--there's two beasts in Revelation 13.
14:18 The first beast is the papacy based in Europe with the
14:23 Orthodox, the Catholic church, and the other Orthodox churches.
14:25 They're going to unite with Protestants and Evangelicals in
14:29 the Americas, North America principally.
14:32 That they're going to form a confederacy with church and
14:35 state that is going to compel worship.
14:37 Now, this is not saying there's going to be a one world
14:40 government, because Daniel says there never will be.
14:43 They're not going to cleave together.
14:44 They'll never be a one world government, but there'll be a
14:47 confederacy of church and state around the world where this
14:51 religion is going to be compelled, and it probably is
14:54 going to happen gradually, where first they're going to say, you
14:57 know, "The world's going to Hades in a handbasket," and it's
15:03 because we're not, you know, worshiping God, and not taking
15:06 care of the environment might be included.
15:08 And we need to, you know, start mandating laws that everybody's
15:12 got to get back to church.
15:14 And there's going to be laws that are going to go against the
15:17 law of God.
15:18 So, I think it's going to sort of happen.
15:20 First, you're going to see the union and the union is going to
15:23 then forge around worshiping the beast in his image and a mark of
15:27 the beast.
15:29 Jëan: We do have a study guide.
15:30 It's called the "Mark Of The Beast."
15:31 And of course, Revelation chapter 14, you have three
15:34 angels's messages, and the third angel warns about the beast and
15:38 about his image and worshiping the image and having the mark of
15:41 the beast, so a very important study.
15:43 We'll be happy to send it to anyone who calls and asks.
15:45 The number is 800-835-6747.
15:49 That is our resource phone line.
15:51 If you have a Bible question, the number to call
15:53 is 800-463-7297.
15:57 Again, that number is 800-463-7297.
16:00 That'll bring you here into the studio.
16:02 And we mentioned different free offers.
16:04 You can also get the free offer by simply dialing #250 on
16:07 your smartphone.
16:09 And as for that, it's called the "Mark Of The Beast."
16:11 We'll be happy to send it to anyone who calls and asks.
16:14 We got Anthony in New York.
16:16 Anthony, welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
16:18 Anthony: Yes, good evening, pastors.
16:20 Doug: Evening.
16:21 Anthony: So, as I was waiting, I actually think the Holy Spirit
16:23 told me to look up this--the question I had, and I saw it on
16:26 your website, Amazing Facts, that my question was actually
16:30 about the book of Jasher in Joshua chapter 10, verse 13, but
16:34 I saw that it says on your website that no one really knows
16:38 about this book, so I don't know.
16:40 I don't know if there's anything else you want to say about the
16:42 question, but I did already get my answer.
16:44 Doug: Well, no.
16:45 It's a good question, and, you know, sometimes we give an
16:47 answer, we give an abbreviated answer because of the time.
16:50 I'll say a little more about that.
16:52 There are references in the Old Testament, and I think one or
16:56 two in the New, to books that are not books of the Bible.
17:00 You not only have the book of Jasher--by the way, the book of
17:02 Jasher is mentioned in the book of Joshua, and the book of
17:05 Jasher is mentioned in 2 Samuel in chapter 1, verse 18.
17:11 It says, "He told them to teach the children of Judah the song
17:14 of the bow; Indeed it is written in the book of Jasher."
17:18 And so, Jasher may have been a prophet and he had written some
17:22 inspired things, but for whatever reason, God did not see
17:26 that it needed to be preserved for posterity.
17:29 And so, it's not there.
17:30 I think it talks about the book of Gad, the seer also.
17:34 There's one other I can't remember.
17:35 But one place is the book of Nathan.
17:37 Now they may be referring to 2 Samuel, which is written after
17:42 Samuel dies, so he didn't write.
17:44 It may have been Nathan the prophet that helped write that.
17:46 So, of course, he was--he may have been dead then too.
17:48 So, well, I don't know.
17:50 Anyway, those three books in the Old Testament are referred to.
17:55 Not every prophet wrote a book.
17:57 John the Baptist was the greatest prophet, and he didn't
18:00 write a book.
18:01 And not every prophetic book was part of the holy canon.
18:05 So, they had some books that they believe were inspired, but
18:10 not necessarily part of the Bible.
18:12 I think "Pilgrim's Progress" is somewhat inspired.
18:15 It's not part of the Bible, though.
18:16 Jëan: Yeah, something else about the book.
18:18 I'm just looking at it, a little commentary on it.
18:21 It's also referred to as the Book of Praises or the Book
18:24 of Hymns.
18:25 So, it seemed as though it was also a collection similar to
18:27 what the Psalms are, collection of sacred songs that was
18:31 possibly used in worship as well.
18:34 Doug: Yeah, the two references actually are poetic references.
18:37 Jëan: Yeah, something related to that.
18:39 Good, great question.
18:40 All right, next caller that we have is Adriene from Tennessee.
18:44 Is that right, Adriene?
18:47 Adriene: That's correct.
18:48 Jëan: Welcome.
18:49 Adriene: Thank you, thank you, Pastor Ross and Pastor Doug.
18:52 I am calling because I'm stumped on Deuteronomy chapter 12,
18:56 verse 22.
18:58 My husband and I are reading from the beginning to the end of
19:00 the Bible, and of course, this is an area where God has
19:04 made--He's made it very clear what types of meats we are to
19:07 eat and what meats we shouldn't eat.
19:09 And in this particular text, it talks about in an instance where
19:13 you can't get to a certain facility in time for whatever
19:19 reason, then you can have unclean or clean meats.
19:22 So, could you--I'm perplexed by that, hoping you can answer it.
19:26 Doug: Yeah, let me read this for our friends that are listening.
19:29 It's talking about these annual feasts that the Jews would
19:32 attend, and we're in Deuteronomy chapter 12 here.
19:36 And it's--let me just read it.
19:37 It says in verse 20, I'll start there, "When the Lord your God
19:40 enlarges your border as he's promised you, and you say, 'Let
19:43 me eat meat,' because you long to eat meat, that you may eat as
19:47 much as your heart desires.
19:48 If the place where the Lord God chooses to put His name," it
19:51 ends up being Jerusalem, "is too far from you," where they would
19:54 go and eat the sacrificial meats, okay?
19:58 "If the place is too far from you, then you might slaughter
20:01 from your herd and your flock which the Lord has given you,
20:03 just as I've commanded you."
20:05 Now--so he's referring them back to something he's
20:07 commanded earlier.
20:08 That would be the clean and unclean animals.
20:11 "Just as I've commanded you, you may eat within your gates as
20:13 much as your heart desires.
20:15 Just as the gazelle and the deer are eaten, so you may eat them;
20:18 the clean and the unclean alike may eat them."
20:21 Now, what it's not saying is the clean and the unclean meats you
20:26 can eat.
20:27 It's saying, people who are ceremonially clean or unclean,
20:32 they're all allowed to eat of this annual feast sacrifice.
20:37 So, some people, because of the, you know, they had some issue
20:42 or, you know, a woman during a certain time of the month, or if
20:46 you had, you know, any kind of a
20:48 rash, or there's a bunch of things.
20:49 If you had touched a dead body because you had a burial in the
20:51 family, you were spiritually unclean.
20:55 Some people thought, "Well, if you're unclean, then you can't
20:57 participate in this annual feast of food."
21:03 And God is saying, yes, the clean and the unclean people are
21:07 free to eat of those sacrifices.
21:10 It's not saying you can eat of any animal during the feast
21:13 because he made it really clear that the other things were
21:16 an abomination.
21:17 Why would he turn that around?
21:19 Jëan: We do have a study guide that talks about that.
21:21 It's called "God's Free Health Plan" and gives some good
21:23 biblical principles for living a healthy life.
21:26 If you'd like to receive that, the number to call
21:28 is 800-835-6747.
21:31 That is our resource phone line.
21:33 You can ask for that.
21:35 It's called "God's Free Health Plan."
21:36 You can also dial #250 on your smartphone and just say Bible
21:39 answers live and then ask for it by name, "God's Free
21:42 Health Plan."
21:44 We'll be able to send you a digital copy of that
21:46 study guide.
21:47 Of course, if you have a Bible question, the number
21:49 is 800-463-7297.
21:53 You'll probably see that on the screen if you're
21:54 watching, 800-463-7297.
21:58 It's a good time to call.
22:00 We've got Ely in Kansas.
22:02 Ely, welcome to the program.
22:04 Doug: Ellie.
22:05 Jëan: Or is it Ellie?
22:07 Sorry, Ellie.
22:08 Ely: Oh, it's Ely.
22:09 Doug: Ely.
22:11 Jëan: We got the first, okay.
22:12 Ely: Yeah, yeah, it's Ely.
22:13 It's always Ely.
22:15 Yeah, my question for tonight is why do innocent people suffer?
22:18 Because, you know, I don't understand why people are born
22:24 and they are going to die, and God knows that they're going
22:28 to die.
22:30 But why does that happen?
22:31 Like, why do they suffer if they don't have, like, a blame or
22:36 something like that?
22:37 Doug: Yeah, no, there's a book in the Bible called the book of
22:41 Job, and the very beginning of the book, it says, "Job is a
22:44 perfect and an upright man, he's a good man, honest man, he
22:49 follows the commandments of the Lord."
22:51 And all of a sudden, he gets attacked by the devil.
22:56 And first he gets attacked where he loses his finances, then he
23:01 loses his family, then he loses his physical health.
23:05 It's just one thing after another.
23:08 And the Bible in this story, it pulls back the veil, and we see
23:12 that the devil is the one that's bringing this.
23:15 And you might be thinking, "Well, isn't God more powerful
23:18 than the devil?
23:19 Why does God allow suffering?"
23:21 This is a question so many people don't understand is that
23:25 our planet has been hijacked by a very powerful evil fiend--
23:31 he was the most powerful of God's created beings--called
23:36 Lucifer, turned to Satan and the devil, and he has accused God of
23:41 all kinds of malicious accusations.
23:44 God had to--God could have destroyed Lucifer by the blink
23:47 of an eye because he's the all powerful Creator.
23:51 But he had to let Lucifer demonstrate what his--what were
23:57 the results of his government.
23:59 He had to give other creatures the freedom to choose whether to
24:03 listen to the Word of God or the word of the devil.
24:06 In the beginning, our first parents chose to listen to the
24:09 word of the devil instead of the Word of God.
24:12 God said, "Do not eat the forbidden fruit.
24:14 If you eat the forbidden fruit then, you know, the devil's
24:17 going to move into this world, and you'll die."
24:21 And the devil said, "Don't believe God.
24:23 If you eat this fruit, you'll be like God, and God's afraid
24:25 you're going to be like Him."
24:27 See, the devil wanted to be God, so he planted his own desires in
24:30 the hearts of Eve and Adam.
24:33 And when our first parents chose to listen to the enemy, the
24:37 devil set up his headquarters in this world, and all the misery
24:40 you see in the world, instead of pointing to God and say, "Why is
24:44 God doing this?"
24:45 No, instead of saying, "Why do bad things happen?"
24:47 We should say, "Why are we still alive?"
24:50 The penalty for sin is death, but we don't die right away
24:54 because Jesus said, "I'll come to the world.
24:56 I'll become a human.
24:57 I'll live as an example for them.
25:00 I'll show them what God is really like, that He's love.
25:03 He's not what the devil says, and then I'll die for
25:06 their sins."
25:07 He also died to buy time for each person to make
25:10 that decision.
25:12 So, once people understand the cosmic conflict that's going on
25:16 in the background, they can understand that good and bad
25:20 happens to everybody.
25:21 Even Jesus said, "Rain and sunshine falls on everybody in
25:24 this world because there's a battle between good and evil."
25:27 And God is going to win in the end.
25:29 We know that.
25:30 That's why we have prophecy, but we need to try and reach as many
25:34 as we can to believe in God before it's too late.
25:37 Jëan: You know, we have a study guide and it deals with the
25:39 subject of why do bad things happen to good people?
25:41 It's called "Did God Create The Devil."
25:44 We know the Bible speaks of the Devil.
25:45 The Devil is alive and well, and he's doing his evil and bringing
25:49 pain and suffering to people, but where did he come from?
25:52 Well this study guide will give you the answer.
25:54 All you need to do is call and ask for it.
25:56 The number is 800-835-6747.
25:59 And you can ask for that study guide.
26:01 It's called, "Did God Create The Devil?"
26:03 And just a lot of good Bible verses in there.
26:06 Doug: Very good, we got--well let's see
26:08 if we can do a quick one here.
26:09 Jëan: All right. It's James in California.
26:10 James, welcome to "Bible answers Live."
26:12 James: Hey, good evening, pastors.
26:14 So, my question is, where do we see the Trinity, the Father,
26:17 Son, and Holy Spirit in Genesis chapter 1 in the
26:20 creation story?
26:21 Doug: All right, well first of all, you're not going to find
26:23 the word Trinity.
26:25 Even though you're not going to find the word ascension in the
26:28 Bible, we know that it's a teaching Jesus ascended
26:30 to heaven.
26:31 You're not going to find the word millennium in the Bible,
26:33 but we know Revelation 20 talks about the millennium, the
26:36 1000 years.
26:38 The Trinity is the three persons of the Godhead.
26:40 When God says in Genesis, "Let us make man in Our image."
26:45 And God says that the man and the woman, there's two of them,
26:49 they get married, they become one.
26:51 We learn right there in Genesis that one does not always mean
26:55 numerical quantity.
26:56 It can mean unity.
26:58 Jesus prayed the 12 disciples would be one.
27:02 "Father," he said, "even as you and I are one."
27:04 And so, God, the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are one.
27:08 It does say, "And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of
27:11 the waters."
27:12 So you've got the Holy Spirit there.
27:14 You've got God saying, "Let us make man in Our image."
27:17 God the Father and Son, it tells us how to form.
27:20 Well, we could say more.
27:21 We have a book on that called "Understanding the
27:23 Trinity, One God or Three."
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30:56 Doug: Welcome back, listening friends, to "Bible Answers
30:59 Live," and this is, as the title suggests, a live international
31:03 Bible study.
31:05 If you're hearing the program for the first time, then we
31:07 encourage you to call in with your Bible questions.
31:09 It is, of course, a free phone call.
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31:24 Pastor Ross and I will answer your questions as well as
31:26 we can.
31:28 We got our Bibles open before us.
31:29 My name is Doug Batchelor.
31:30 Jëan: My name is Jëan Ross, and Pastor, we have some folks who
31:33 emailed their Bible questions to us, and we're going to take one
31:35 of these questions right now.
31:37 And this question is, "In Romans chapter 6, verse 23, it says
31:41 that, 'The wages of sin is death,' but in 1 John chapter
31:44 5:17, it says, 'There that not every sin leads to death.'
31:48 Can you explain this?"
31:50 Doug: Yeah, well the penalty for all sin is death, but not every
31:53 sin leads to the second death, meaning there's no forgiveness.
31:58 But the unpardonable sin leads to the second death.
32:01 There's no forgiveness for the unpardonable sin.
32:04 And so, yeah, "All manner of sin and blasphemy will be forgiven,"
32:07 Jesus said, and this is in Matthew 12, except blasphemy
32:11 against the Holy Spirit.
32:12 We had a caller earlier in the program was asking, you know, "I
32:15 wonder if I've grieved away the spirit?"
32:17 We actually have a book that's dealing with what is the
32:20 unpardonable sin.
32:22 And if people want to know more about that, they can call the
32:25 number and we'll send them a free copy.
32:27 Jëan: All right?
32:29 And maybe one more question that was emailed to us.
32:30 By the way, if you want to send us a question, it's just
32:32 simply balquestions@amazingfacts.org.
32:36 That's the email address.
32:37 "In Exodus chapter 24, verse 11," the question is, "did the
32:41 elders who went up with Moses on the mount, did they see God's
32:44 glory or did they see the glory of Jesus?"
32:48 Doug: Yeah, good question.
32:49 It actually says that, you know, the elders went up, not to the
32:53 top of the mountain, but they went to the base of the
32:55 mountain, which no one else was allowed to do.
32:57 And it says, "They saw God and they ate and drank."
33:00 Now, that doesn't mean they saw God's face because God told
33:04 Moses, "No man will see my face and live."
33:07 Moses saw God from behind.
33:10 The elders probably saw God's glory.
33:12 I don't think that they looked directly into the unveiled face
33:17 of the Almighty.
33:18 But you know, even Jacob, when he wrestled with the angel, he
33:21 said, "I saw God."
33:23 And sometimes people see a manifestation of God or see the
33:27 glory of God, and they'll say, "I saw God," or "God spoke
33:29 to me."
33:31 So, I don't believe they saw the unveiled glory of God.
33:35 That's why Jesus came.
33:37 The glory of God was veiled in humanity.
33:40 Jëan: All right, we're going to go to the phone lines then.
33:42 We got Gail in Michigan.
33:43 Gail, welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
33:45 You're on the air.
33:46 Gail: Hello.
33:48 Thank you for taking my call and thanks for--thank you for all
33:50 you do.
33:52 It literally saved my life.
33:54 Doug: Praise the Lord.
33:55 And your question tonight, Gail?
33:57 Gail: My question is, is being filled with the Holy Spirit and
34:02 speaking in tongues the same thing?
34:05 Doug: No, not necessarily.
34:06 You do have an example in the Bible, or a couple of them,
34:10 where they were baptized with the Holy Spirit, and they spoke
34:12 in tongues in Acts chapter 2, Acts chapter 10, and then
34:17 Acts 19.
34:19 But a lot of times--you can read in Acts chapter 4--they were
34:21 filled with the Holy Spirit, and they spoke the Word of God.
34:24 You can read where the--and the Holy Spirit came upon
34:27 David and the Holy Spirit came upon Samson.
34:31 And when the Holy Spirit comes upon you, you will manifest a
34:35 variety of different gifts of the Spirit.
34:38 For Samson, it was a gift of physical strength when the
34:40 Spirit of the Lord came on him.
34:42 Holy Spirit came on David, and it gave him
34:44 administrative ability.
34:46 The Spirit came on him, and he wrote these Spirit-filled
34:49 psalms, gift of music, you might say.
34:53 And so, you can read a list of the gifts of the Spirit you're
34:57 going to find in--well, those are the fruits of the Spirit,
34:59 you'll find in Galatians chapter 5, but different gifts of the
35:02 Spirit you find in, I think it's 1 Corinthians 12, where it talks
35:06 about, you know, some are teachers, some administrators,
35:08 workers of miracles, some are apostles, some are prophets.
35:12 There's a broad variety.
35:15 And the lists in the Bible are probably not listing everything
35:18 that God's Spirit may empower you to do.
35:21 The gift of tongues is one of many of the gifts of the Spirit,
35:25 but whenever you're filled with the Spirit, you don't always
35:28 speak in tongues.
35:29 Jëan: And of course, you need to understand what the Bible means
35:31 when it talks about the gift of tongues.
35:33 It's a little different than what some people claim is
35:36 the gift of tongues today.
35:38 So, we do have a book.
35:39 It's called "Understanding Tongues," and we'll be happy to
35:42 send it to anyone who calls and asks.
35:43 The number is 800-835-6747.
35:47 That is the resource phone line.
35:48 And you can ask for the book.
35:50 It's called "Understanding Tongues."
35:51 And when people receive the gift of tongues, and you read about
35:54 in the book of Acts, they were able to preach or teach the
35:56 gospel in languages that they hadn't learned.
35:59 So, it's for the communication of the gospel.
36:03 All right, thank you, Gail.
36:04 We've got Glenn and Linda in Ohio.
36:06 Glenn, Linda, welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
36:08 Glenn: Thank you.
36:09 Good afternoon or evening and thank you for taking my call.
36:13 Doug: Yes, thank you.
36:14 Glenn: It's at some point in eternity, the eternal Yahweh
36:19 started a time capsule with when he created the logos or
36:24 the Word.
36:26 And they created it together.
36:28 They created everything that has been created according to the
36:32 book of John chapter 1.
36:34 Someplace 4000 years down the road, there's a connection
36:39 between the logos and the incarnate Yeshua.
36:45 Doug: So, how would you like to frame that into a question?
36:48 Glenn: He refers to himself as being created in the chapter
36:53 3:14 of Revelation,
36:56 and also the Alpha and Omega.
36:59 And the question is, the Alpha, I understand that.
37:03 It is easy to understand.
37:05 But what does it mean that Yeshua is the Omega, the end?
37:08 What does he mean by that?
37:10 Doug: All right, well, first thing when it talks about
37:12 Jesus being the beginning of the creation of God that you
37:15 read in Revelation 14, I'm sorry, Revelation, I think
37:18 it's 3:14, yeah.
37:20 That doesn't mean that Christ was created.
37:23 It says, "All things that were made were made by him."
37:26 Well, if he was created before that, it would, He would say,
37:29 "All things except Myself."
37:32 And the Bible tells us God is love.
37:34 If God the Father existed at some point in eternity before
37:38 Jesus, then who did He love?
37:40 You can't have love for only yourself.
37:43 It's that love must be expressed.
37:45 So, "Jesus is," the Bible says, "from everlasting
37:48 to everlasting."
37:49 Now, the reason he uses the phrase--he says, "I am the Alpha
37:51 and Omega," He's called the Word of God, and every word in the
37:56 Greek alphabet, it started with alpha and the last letter
37:59 was omega.
38:01 Like we would say, "He is the A to Z in the Word of God."
38:04 He encompasses--every Word of God is composed in Him.
38:08 He's the embodiment.
38:09 It doesn't mean that when you got to the word omega, that now
38:13 you've got to the end of the alphabet and that Jesus is going
38:15 to end.
38:16 And the word alpha did not mean that he had a beginning.
38:19 So, Christ is without beginning.
38:21 He is from everlasting to everlasting.
38:24 He is eternal God.
38:26 He's self-existent.
38:27 He's the Creator of all things.
38:29 And yeah, hope that we had that in our book, "The Trinity" talks
38:33 about that, "One God or Three?"
38:36 We can send you, Glenn, a free copy of that.
38:39 Jëan: The number to call is 800-835-6747.
38:42 And again, you can ask for the book on the "Trinity: One God or
38:45 Three?" and we'll send that to you.
38:47 You can dial #250 on your smartphone and say, "Bible
38:51 Answers Live," and then ask for the book that way.
38:54 Thank you for calling.
38:55 Next caller we have is Kate in California.
38:57 Kate, welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
38:59 Kate: Thank you.
39:01 Would you please comment on Daniel 11:45, the meaning of
39:08 that text?
39:10 Doug: All right, thanks a lot.
39:11 You gave us a really difficult passage, but we'll do our best.
39:15 Now, it's talking about this battle.
39:17 When you begin Daniel, where does it start?
39:20 Daniel 10, where it talks about the North and the South, or 11?
39:22 Jëan: 11, it starts there.
39:24 Doug: Daniel 11 it starts.
39:25 Pastor Ross just wrote a series of lessons on Daniel.
39:28 And Daniel 11 talks about this ongoing battle between the king
39:31 of the North and the South.
39:33 And this starts with the generals of Alexander.
39:36 Alexander's kingdom divides among four generals, and finally
39:39 it melts down to two that are at war.
39:42 Israel was surrounded by an ocean on the west and a great
39:47 desert on the east.
39:49 So, all of their invading forces came from the north of
39:51 the south.
39:53 Even Nebuchadnezzar was technically northeast.
39:55 He came from the north.
39:56 He was called a king of the north, or they'd come from Egypt
39:59 or Ethiopia, they'd come from the south.
40:02 And it goes back and forth between the king of the north
40:05 and south.
40:06 Eventually, it tells us that this king of the north, the
40:10 Greeks are overcome by the Romans, and the king of the
40:12 north is being run by the Roman Caesars, what we would call
40:16 pagan Rome.
40:17 I think in Daniel 11, it even references Augustus Caesar, a
40:21 collector of taxes.
40:22 Is that right?
40:23 And then it goes on and it talks about it transitioning to
40:27 papal Rome.
40:29 So, papal Rome is the king of the north.
40:32 So, now let me go to your verse in verse 45.
40:34 It says, "He'll plant the tent," or the tabernacle, "of his
40:37 palace between the seas and the glorious holy mountain; and yet
40:42 he will come to his end, and no one will help him."
40:46 Well, it talks about the holy mountain between the seas.
40:50 Jerusalem was thought of as being between Galilee, the Dead
40:54 Sea, and the Mediterranean, that high ground there.
40:57 And waters biblically represent people.
41:00 And, stop me, you may have a little different view on this,
41:03 so I'll be happy to entertain that.
41:05 And so, it's talking about this counterfeit power that is
41:09 wanting worship.
41:10 You read in 1 Thessalonians that he sits in the temple of God,
41:14 showing himself that he is God, wanting worship, and it's
41:17 talking about planting his tabernacle there, putting
41:20 himself in the place of God.
41:22 And yet finally, he will come to his end.
41:24 Jëan: Yeah, absolutely, pastor.
41:26 And of course, from verse 40 onwards, it talks about the time
41:29 of the end and the king of the North and the South, and they'll
41:31 go back and forth.
41:33 We understand from verse 40 through to verse 45 has yet a
41:36 future application.
41:38 It hasn't met it's fulfillment, it's prophetic fulfillment
41:41 because when you get to chapter 12, verse 1, you have the close
41:44 of probation.
41:45 That's when Michael stands up.
41:46 So, yes, there is some discussion.
41:48 It does appear from those verses that there's some kind of a
41:51 showdown that takes place.
41:53 Some have seen the king of the North, as you mentioned,
41:56 representing the papal power, but the papal power with the
41:58 backing of the Western nations or the Christian nations, the
42:03 military of which, like NATO, for example, the king of the
42:06 South, representing on a spiritual level, representing
42:11 Islam as being the main religion with the backing of the
42:14 so-called atheistic nations like China and Russia.
42:18 And yet we are talking about something yet in the future, but
42:21 it brings you right up till the very close of probation when
42:24 Michael stands up and Jesus said, "He that is holy, let him
42:27 be holy still."
42:28 So, I think we'll have a clear understanding of these verses as
42:31 we get closer to the fulfillment of what's been described.
42:34 But it does appear that there will be some kind of law or
42:37 legislation passed that brings the whole world together in a
42:41 certain form of worship.
42:43 It talks about tidings from the east and the west
42:46 trouble him.
42:47 So, it's a big study, but there's a number of aspects
42:50 connected with that.
42:51 But I think the bulk of this is yet future in its application.
42:53 Doug: Yeah, but it's exciting to think that we're living probably
42:56 between verse 42 and chapter 12.
42:59 Jëan: Yeah, we're getting right there.
43:01 Doug: We are living right near the end.
43:02 That's exciting.
43:04 All right, well, thank you so much.
43:05 Hope that makes sense.
43:07 And your lessons are going to come out fairly soon, I think,
43:08 on Daniel.
43:10 Jëan: Yeah, they can check them out at Amazing Facts.
43:11 I think in the next couple of months they should have
43:13 them done.
43:15 Elizabeth in Arizona.
43:16 Elizabeth, welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
43:17 Elizabeth: Hi, thank you.
43:20 I listen to you guys all the time.
43:22 Doug: Thanks so much.
43:23 My question is, my former pastor says that when he preaches on
43:28 Sundays, that's not a day of rest for him at all, and I've
43:32 always been curious as to how you personally, you guys
43:36 personally reconcile that.
43:37 I feel for you and I appreciate the service any pastor does on
43:42 the day of the--what they, you know, how do you get a Sabbath
43:48 when you work so hard?
43:50 Doug: That's a fair question.
43:51 You know, Jesus addresses that too.
43:53 Jesus would heal people on the Sabbath, and he'd teach on the
43:56 Sabbath, and they accused him of breaking the Sabbath.
43:58 He said it's okay to do good on the Sabbath.
44:01 And then Christ says something that is interesting.
44:04 He said, "The priests profane the Sabbath and are guiltless."
44:09 Now, what he meant by that was on the Sabbath day in the
44:12 temple, one of the things they did is they offered a sacrifice.
44:16 Well, to have the sacrifice, the priest would sacrifice
44:19 a victim.
44:21 They would then butcher the victim.
44:22 They had to have the fire going to put the victim on the fire,
44:25 so they were hauling and stoking the fire with wood.
44:28 So, the priests had busy activities on the Sabbath, but
44:31 Jesus said, "They're doing what was necessary to do that the
44:35 greater group may worship."
44:37 And that they profane, in other words, they're working on the
44:40 Sabbath, but they are guiltless.
44:42 So, there's some work that is required on the Sabbath.
44:45 You know, in our church, sometimes we have several
44:47 different services, and our deacons--bless their hearts--
44:50 they have to pick up chairs and put chairs down between services
44:53 for different--move them to different rooms.
44:54 We just don't have enough chairs,
44:56 and they're not breaking the Sabbath.
44:57 They're doing some of the Levitical work, you might say,
45:00 on the Sabbath day.
45:02 And we're doing what we have to do that the greater group
45:04 might worship.
45:05 Now, after, you know, church yesterday and you preach and you
45:10 teach and I gave a Bible study.
45:13 I go home and I eat and I take a nap.
45:15 Then I came back for doing worship for the family night.
45:18 And so, you know, you get rest, and--
45:23 Jëan: But it is a busy day.
45:24 Doug: It is a busy day, yeah.
45:26 But we'll take a little more time off on a Monday
45:28 or something.
45:29 So, you'll get your other projects done.
45:31 Jëan: It's good to have time with the family and you can rest
45:34 and do different things.
45:36 But yes, being a pastor, your main priority, probably your
45:38 busiest day, is on the Sabbath when you're involved in worship.
45:43 All right, thank you, Elizabeth.
45:45 We've got James in Arizona.
45:46 James, welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
45:48 James: Hey, I've got a question for you guys, and I can
45:52 clarify this a little bit if you need me to, but it seems like
45:56 there's a bunch, with even within people who call
46:00 themselves Christian, there's a bunch of different versions like
46:03 one Jesus, you have to be baptized and take sacraments,
46:06 and another one, you just say a prayer, and then one turns you
46:11 into a god through theosis, like, and the other one is like
46:14 washing you in blood and kind of, like, making a deal with the
46:19 Father to get you into heaven.
46:21 Like, how do you know which interpretation is correct
46:24 because they're mutually exclusive.
46:26 Doug: Yeah, well, that's all the more reason to find out--well,
46:29 let me back up and say, what do you think would be the criteria
46:33 that we would use to find the answer?
46:36 Would it be Pastor Doug on the radio?
46:38 Would it be a preacher in the pulpit?
46:40 Or would it be the Bible?
46:44 James: Well, since they all appeal to the Bible, we can't
46:48 use the Bible because I'm asking about how we interpret the
46:51 Bible, right?
46:53 So, it's--since even Muslims believe that Christ is the
46:56 Messiah, and they interpret the Bible differently.
46:59 Doug: Well, they're not using the Bible to--if you use the
47:02 Bible as your final authority, then the answers
47:05 become very clear.
47:07 And--but if you try to, and, you know, I used to do this before I
47:10 was a Christian, I would try and co mingle all the holy books and
47:13 it just creates chaos.
47:14 You try and get the Bhagavad Gita and the Quran and the Bible
47:20 and you try and make sense of it all and it's just--it's going to
47:23 leave you in confusion.
47:24 But if you look at the simple teachings of Jesus by yourself,
47:28 you open up your Bible and you go to Matthew chapter 1.
47:32 Read the Sermon on the Mount that Jesus gives about loving
47:35 your enemy.
47:36 It's not complicated.
47:38 It's not the mysteries in the Bible that is going to cause
47:43 the confusion.
47:45 It's the good we know we should do that we ignore.
47:48 So, it's not that complicated
47:50 when you just read it for yourself.
47:51 Jëan: And, you know, I was just reading the Gospel of John, and
47:53 some of the clearest statements about Christ, His mission, His
47:57 life, His death, how to be saved, it's so clearly given in
48:01 the Gospel of John.
48:02 Even Jesus, speaking to the religious leaders of His time,
48:05 and He's putting His position, His relationship to His
48:08 Father clearly.
48:10 He's presenting it to the religious leaders,
48:11 "I and My Father one.
48:13 Just I'm very powerful if--unless you believe in me,
48:16 you can have life."
48:17 So, we've got to let the Bible interpret itself.
48:18 I think part of the problem is people listen to a lot of other
48:21 people give their interpretation of the Bible instead of going to
48:25 the Word itself and reading Scripture and allowing the
48:28 Scripture to explain itself.
48:29 You read one verse, and if you don't understand it, then look
48:32 up other verses on the same topic, and it'll bring it
48:34 to light.
48:36 Doug: Yeah, and you know, the bottom line is, what does the
48:38 Bible say?
48:39 Jesus said in John 17:17, you were just quoting the book of
48:42 John, "Sanctify them by thy truth.
48:46 Your word is truth."
48:48 Ten percent of everything Jesus said, He's quoting from the
48:50 Old Testament.
48:52 He's quoting from the Bible.
48:53 And then He tells us that His words are truth.
48:58 The apostles said that it's--the Bible's not just normal words.
49:04 Holy men spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost, and
49:06 this book has been preserved in a special way.
49:09 If you read it for yourself, you will understand.
49:12 I was living in a cave 17 years old, all confused by the, you
49:16 know, who was God and the different religions.
49:19 Someone had left a Bible up in the cave, along with some other
49:22 camping gear.
49:23 And I started reading the Bible so I could argue with
49:26 Christians, and that's what changed my life.
49:28 So, the power is in the Word by itself.
49:31 All right, thank you for your call, James.
49:33 Great question.
49:34 We've got Michaelyn in New Jersey.
49:37 Michaelyn, welcome to the program.
49:38 Michaelyn: Hi.
49:40 I want to know, was Job Jewish or Gentile?
49:45 Doug: Okay, good question.
49:47 Sort of in between.
49:49 He was not a Jew in that he was not from the tribe of Judah, but
49:52 when you look at the other characters in the book of Job,
49:56 they are descendants of Esau, which was a child of Abraham.
50:01 You know, Abraham, of course, had Isaac, and Isaac had Jacob
50:04 and Esau, and the descendants of Esau went to Edom, and near Edom
50:08 was the land of Uz where Job lived.
50:11 And matter of fact, in the genealogies of Esau, it talks
50:14 about someone named Jobab and the wondering was that Job, and
50:20 it talks about his friends are mentioned in that
50:22 same genealogy.
50:23 So, he was a child, a descendant of Abraham and Isaac, but he was
50:29 not from the tribe of Judah or a descendant of Israel.
50:32 Thanks, great question.
50:34 Hope that helps a little bit, Michaelyn.
50:35 Jëan: We've got Joseph in Florida.
50:37 Joseph, welcome to "Bible Answer Life."
50:39 Joseph: Hello.
50:40 How are you, pastors?
50:42 Doug: We're doing great.
50:43 Thanks for calling.
50:44 Joseph: Thank you.
50:46 My question is, at the Second Coming, when Christ comes back,
50:50 He's coming in all the glory of the Father, the Holy Spirit, and
50:53 the angels.
50:54 And it says, "And when He had opened the seventh seal, there
50:58 was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour."
51:02 Does that mean that Enoch, Elijah, and Moses will also be
51:07 at the Second Coming since Moses and Elijah were at
51:10 the transfiguration?
51:12 Doug: Well, it's a good question.
51:13 I had not thought of that, but if I was Enoch, Moses, and
51:17 Elijah, who are in heaven now, and I knew Jesus was coming
51:21 back, if there was an empty seat on the plane, I'd ask if I could
51:24 get a ticket.
51:26 I'd sure like to be there and see that.
51:27 So, I would expect, you know, Moses was extremely interested
51:30 in the children of Israel making it to the Promised Land.
51:33 He's probably going to want a front row seat for that.
51:37 So, my guess is, yes.
51:39 You want to comment on that?
51:40 What's the silence in heaven?
51:41 Jëan: Yeah, the reason there's silence in heaven is because
51:43 Christ and all the angels and, quite possibly, Enoch, Elijah,
51:47 and Moses, they've all left.
51:49 And if anyone is still in heaven--God the Father is in
51:51 heaven, and of course, He can witness what's happening--
51:54 the focus is going to be on Christ and his journey to the
51:56 earth to gather up the saints and take them back to the
51:59 Father's house.
52:00 So, that seems to be the focus.
52:02 Silence in heaven for about the space of half an hour works out
52:04 to about seven days of time.
52:07 So, it's not that it's three and a half days for Jesus to come
52:10 from heaven to earth and then three and a half days to
52:12 go back.
52:13 Christ can come very quickly, but it seems as though He takes
52:16 the longer route back home.
52:17 Maybe there's some things He wants to teach us.
52:20 Doug: How do you get seven days out of half an hour?
52:23 Jëan: Well the reason being is because you have one prophetic
52:26 day is equal to 1 literal year, and they have 360 Hebrew days in
52:30 a year, and there's 24 hours in the day, and one hour works out
52:35 to about 15 days, and a half an hour would be half of that.
52:39 So, you make up the week. Did I say--
52:42 Doug: Yeah, I want you to explain that for people.
52:44 Jëan: Yeah, hopefully they can get that seven days.
52:46 Doug: That made sense.
52:48 All right, what's next?
52:49 Jëan: All right, next caller that we have is Dawn
52:50 in California.
52:52 Dawn, welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
52:53 Dawn: Hi, pastors, how are you tonight?
52:56 Doug: Better than we deserve.
52:58 Dawn: I have a question on when, let's see, it was John 8,
53:04 verses 1 through 11 were added to the manuscripts because the
53:08 earliest manuscripts I read, it was not in there.
53:11 Doug: Yeah, that's--I would just say, don't believe
53:14 those commentaries.
53:17 The reason they say that, and it's not just John 8, they'll
53:19 also say the last few verses in Mark chapter 16, they say, "Well
53:23 that's not in some manuscripts."
53:24 And so, some of the modern translations just leave
53:27 that out.
53:28 That's very unfortunate because one of the most incredible
53:31 stories in the Bible is John chapter 8, the first few verses.
53:35 This woman is caught in the act of adultery.
53:38 And Jesus said, "He that is without sin, let him cast the
53:41 first stone."
53:43 It's believed that some of the Austere church leaders, when
53:49 they read that hundreds of years after Christ, it was in the
53:51 Scriptures, they said, "Wow, that sounds like Jesus is
53:54 forgiving adultery," and they just said, "Let's expunge that.
53:59 Let's lose that first few verses there.
54:01 We don't want it to make it sound like he said, I'm not
54:03 going to condemn you for adultery."
54:05 And so, some of the church fathers thought, "Well, let's
54:08 just take that out of some of the Vaticanus or some of the
54:10 other translations."
54:12 But it was in the earliest.
54:14 Jëan: There's two groups of manuscripts.
54:15 You have what's called the Byzantine family, which was more
54:18 in modern day Turkey.
54:19 And then you have the Alexandrian text, which is
54:22 much smaller.
54:23 There's much fewer manuscripts in Alexandria in Egypt.
54:26 However, the oldest manuscripts are from the Alexandria because
54:30 the temperature was dry and desert-like.
54:32 But there were some questions related to those manuscripts.
54:35 So, that's maybe one of the reasons people say, "Well the
54:38 oldest manuscripts don't know this passage."
54:39 Well there are so many other manuscripts, part of the
54:42 Byzantine family, that do have this passage, that it's pretty
54:45 evident that it was in the original.
54:47 Doug: Yeah, and there are some slightly newer manuscripts that
54:50 were copied from originals.
54:53 So, they're actually more accurate.
54:55 And--but yeah, the story, it bleeds Jesus.
55:01 And so, yeah, I believe it is,
55:03 it's very much like what He said.
55:05 He actually says to other people, "Go and sin no more."
55:08 You "know, He said, Lest the the worst thing to come upon you."
55:10 So, it all fits with the narrative of Christ.
55:14 Jëan: You know, we do have a book that talks about the Bible.
55:15 It's called "The Ultimate Resource," and it talks about
55:18 different Bible translations and manuscripts and answers a lot of
55:21 these questions.
55:22 If you'd like to receive it, the number to call is 800-835-6747.
55:26 This is for anyone.
55:27 It's just a great study.
55:29 800-835-6747.
55:30 You can ask for that book.
55:32 It's called "The Ultimate Resource," or you can dial #250
55:35 on your smartphone and say, "Bible answers live," and then
55:39 ask for that manuscript or that book by name, and you'll learn
55:42 about the manuscripts that the Bible is copied from.
55:47 Doug: Very good.
55:48 You know, I wrote a book.
55:50 One reason I'm also passionate about that question is I wrote a
55:53 book years ago that just was near and dear to my heart, and
55:56 it's talking about at Jesus's feet, the Gospel According to
56:00 Mary Magdalene.
56:01 And I put forth a hypothesis in that book that Mary of Bethany,
56:06 Mary Magdalen were the same Mary, and that woman caught in
56:11 the act of adultery could have been Mary Magdalene.
56:15 And they didn't say her name because, well, that would
56:17 obviously be an embarrassing circumstance.
56:20 And so, yeah.
56:22 I did a lot of research on that particular story and its origin.
56:26 And I do believe that you don't have to question whether John
56:30 chapter 8, verses 1 through 11 or Mark 16, I think they are.
56:33 King James had it right.
56:35 They were all part of the Scriptures.
56:36 Jëan: All right, Pastor Doug, we've got another
56:37 email question.
56:39 And this one's got two parts.
56:41 So, maybe you can take them one by one.
56:42 The first question is, "Does every person have a
56:45 guardian angel?"
56:46 And, "What Bible verse might be used?"
56:48 And then the next question would be, "What do these angels do?"
56:52 They guard us, but is there anything else that they do?
56:55 Doug: Yeah, well I believe that everyone does have a
56:58 guardian angel.
56:59 You can read that it says in Psalm 91, "The angel of the Lord
57:03 encamps round about him that fears Him."
57:06 And then Jesus, speaking of the children, He says, "Their
57:09 angels," making it sound like every child's got an angel.
57:13 "Their angels do behold the face of My Father which is
57:15 in heaven."
57:17 And there's so many times when someone's eyes were opened and
57:20 then they see angels that are there.
57:24 It was, I believe, angels that were guiding the wise men when
57:28 they saw that star.
57:29 This moving star was not a comet or something.
57:33 Astronomers trying to say, "Oh well, I wonder what comet
57:35 happened that year."
57:36 I think it was a band of angels that they saw.
57:39 So, when Elisha said, "Open his eyes," his servant.
57:44 He was so worried about the Syrian army, and God opened the
57:47 eyes of Elisha's servant.
57:49 He saw the hills and the mountains were filled with
57:51 chariots and horses of fire.
57:53 They were surrounded by angels.
57:54 So, a lot more angels out there.
57:57 Good thing there's twice as many good angels as bad ones.
57:59 So, you don't have to be afraid, friends.
58:01 God willing, we'll talk about it again next week.
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