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00:32 WELCOME TO ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS.
00:34 I'M LYNELLE ELLIS YOUR HOST AND JOINING ME TODAY 00:38 IS MARTY PHILLIPS. 00:39 MARTY WORKS FOR AN ORGANIZATION CALLED 00:41 NPRAXIS AND THAT ORGANIZATION PARTNERS WITH 00:45 GOSPEL OUTREACH TO REACH SOME PEOPLE GROUPS AROUND 00:48 THE WORLD THAT TRADITIONALLY HAVE BEEN 00:50 KIND OF DIFFICULT TO REACH. 00:52 SO I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE TALKING WITH MARTY TODAY 00:54 AND FIND OUT MORE ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT 00:57 HAVE BEEN RECENTLY HAPPENING WITH YOUR WORK 00:59 AROUND THE WORLD. 01:00 WELCOME. 01:01 THANK YOU SO MUCH LYNELLE. 01:02 IT'S A REAL PLEASURE AND PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE WITH 01:05 YOU TODAY. 01:06 AND IT IS. 01:07 FOR ME MY BIGGEST PASSION IS TO TRACK WHERE IS GOD 01:11 WORKING AMONG UNREACHED PEOPLE GROUPS. 01:13 AND SO WE ORIGINALLY STARTED WORKING WITH 01:15 MUSLIMS. 01:16 FROM THERE WE EXPANDED TO WORK ALSO WITH HINDUS. 01:19 THEN WE WENT TO OTHER PEOPLE GROUPS SUCH AS 01:21 ISOLATED TRIBES IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE, IN 01:26 FORESTS AND JUNGLES. 01:27 AND MORE RECENTLY WE FOUND HEY, IF THESE PRINCIPLES 01:31 ARE WORKING WITH SUCCESS AMONG THESE UNREACHED 01:35 PEOPLE GROUPS WHAT ABOUT THE LARGE WESTERN 01:36 UNREACHED PEOPLE GROUP OF POST CHRISTIAN WESTERN 01:38 WORLD. 01:39 I THINK THESE SAME PRINCIPLES WILL WORK. 01:41 SO WE WORK WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT PEOPLE GROUPS. 01:50 SHOULD I CLARIFY THAT YOU WOULD BE MORE SPECIFIC IF 01:52 YOU COULD BUT BECAUSE SOME OF THE PEOPLE GROUPS THAT 01:54 YOU ARE WORKING WITH ARE VERY SENSITIVE THEY MIGHT 01:57 BE SENSITIVE WITH THE GOVERNMENTS ETC. THAT WE 02:02 WON'T BE AS SPECIFIC ON THIS EPISODE ABOUT 02:06 COUNTRIES AND ACTUAL GROUPS. 02:08 BUT THEY ARE REAL STORIES NONETHELESS. 02:10 YES, SO WE SHARE THE REAL STORY. 02:12 WE CAN'T SHARE ON TV THE COUNTRY WHERE IT IS. 02:16 SOMETIMES THE PEOPLE GROUP BECAUSE EVEN ISOLATED 02:19 TRIBES IT'S NOW LIKE IN THE PREVIOUS PROGRAMS THAT 02:23 WE'VE HAD HERE WE CAN'T TELL THE COUNTRIES BECAUSE 02:26 IT'S NOW AGAINST THE LAW TO WORK IN ANY COUNTRY IN 02:30 SOUTH AMERICA WITH ISOLATED TRIBES. 02:32 IF, LET'S SAY THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST 02:34 CHURCH IN BRAZIL STARTS WORKING WITH AN ISOLATED 02:36 TRIBE, ACTUALLY THE DIVISION LEADERSHIP THERE 02:40 CAN GO TO JAIL. 02:41 IT'S VERY VERY AGAINST THE LAW. 02:43 THERE ARE ACTUALLY CASES OF THIS AND LAWSUITS 02:46 AGAINST CHRISTIANS WORKING WITH THESE. 02:48 INTERESTING. 02:49 SO WE JUST HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH NOT TO 02:51 MENTION MUSLIMS, HINDUS AND OTHERS LIKE THIS. 02:54 EVEN THERE'S A RISE OF FUNDAMENTALISM, AS WE ALL 02:58 KNOW LIKE IN MYANMAR WHICH WAS BURMA, AMONG 03:01 BUDDHISTS. 03:02 SO IN ALL THE PEOPLE GROUPS THAT WE WORK WITH 03:06 WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE AND BE CAREFUL BASICALLY OF 03:10 SHARING NAMES AND EXACT PLACES. 03:12 AND YOU'RE LOOKING THEN, AS YOU WERE MENTIONING, 03:15 FOR PLACES WHERE YOU CAN DETERMINE, SO YOU'RE KIND 03:19 OF AN INVESTIGATOR REALLY, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR PLACES 03:21 WHERE YOU CAN DETERMINE GOD HAS ALREADY BEEN 03:23 WORKING. 03:24 THEN WHAT HAPPENS? 03:24 YES. 03:25 SO WE TRY TO FIND WHERE HAS GOD BEEN WORKING. 03:27 AND SO WE LOOK FOR PLACES LIKE, AN INDICATOR WE 03:30 WOULD LOOK FOR IS, IS THERE ANY SABBATH. 03:33 IS THERE ANY PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY THAT ARE 03:36 ALREADY KEEPING SABBATH. 03:37 LET'S GO WORK WITH THEM FIRST. 03:40 AND SO SOME OF THE PLACES WE NOW WORK IN, IN ONE 03:44 COUNTRY THAT WE WORK WITH WHERE WE HAVE ONE OF OUR 03:46 LARGEST MINISTRIES WE FOUND A WHOLE TRIBE. 03:50 AND THIS TRIBE IS IN THE MIDDLE EAST NORTH AFRICA 03:54 SETTING. 03:55 AND THEY FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS HAVE ALWAYS KEPT THE 03:59 SABBATH DAY HOLY. 04:00 THEY CALLED IT A SPECIAL DAY. 04:02 THEY DIDN'T DO LIKE CHURCH OR WORSHIP SERVICE. 04:04 IT'S A MUSLIM TRIBE, BUT THEY REFRAIN FROM MAJOR 04:07 TRAVEL, MAJOR COMMERCE, ANY MAJOR WORK. 04:11 THEY WOULD NOT WORK IN THE FIELDS ON SABBATH. 04:14 AND SO WE FOUND THIS AS AN ENTRY POINT. 04:16 WE WORK WITH THE TRIBAL LEADERS OF THAT GROUP AND 04:21 WE HAVE JUST SEEN HOW GOD HAS JUST MANIFESTED 04:24 HIMSELF OVER AND OVER. 04:25 HOW DO THEY COME TO THE IDEA THAT THEY SHOULD 04:28 TREAT SABBATH SPECIAL? 04:31 THIS WOULD BE THE SEVENTH DAY SATURDAY? 04:33 YES. 04:34 WELL, IT'S INTERESTING. 04:37 PROBABLY THEY CONSIDER THEMSELVES, NOW THESE ARE 04:41 LEGENDS, BUT I KNOW THE TRIBAL HISTORIAN AND THEY 04:46 TRACE THE DIRECT LINEAGE BACK TO THE QUEEN OF 04:48 SHEBA. 04:49 AND SO, MANY TRIBES IN THE AREA AND MANY PEOPLE FROM 04:53 ETHIOPIA AND ACROSS THE MIDDLE EAST CARRY THIS 04:57 TRADITION THAT THEY ALWAYS HAD SABBATH. 04:59 AND IT HAD BEEN IN THEIR COLLECTIVE MEMORY THEY 05:01 WEREN'T KEEPING IT AND THEN JEWISH MISSIONARIES 05:05 CAME TO THEIR TRIBE. 05:06 DID NOT MAKE THEM JEWS BUT MADE THEM WHAT YOU CALL 05:10 GOD FEARERS. 05:11 THERE WERE TWO FORMS OF JEWISH MISSION. 05:14 ONE WAS TO BECOME A CONVERTED JEW ANOTHER WAS 05:16 TO BE A GOD FEARER. 05:18 AND IN THE PROCESS O BECOMING GOD FEARERS THEY 05:21 TOOK ON THE SABBATH. 05:22 AND SO THEN FOR CENTURIES, THEN WHEN ISLAM CAME THEY 05:25 FOUND SUPPORT FOR THE SABBATH IN THE KORAN AND 05:29 THEY CONTINUED TO KEEP THE SABBATH. 05:32 AND SO THIS TRIBE HAS ALWAYS HAD THE SABBATH IN 05:35 THEIR PEOPLE GROUP. 05:36 AND THEN THERE'S AN OLD TRIBAL LEADER, HE PASSED 05:42 AWAY A FEW YEARS AGO, BUT HE HAD ABOUT A HUNDRED 05:46 VISIONS AND DREAMS OF JESUS, OF THE SECOND 05:50 COMING AND THEY NEEDED TO PREPARE FOR THAT DAY. 05:53 HE HAD NO ACCESS TO A BIBLE PROBABLY FOR THE 05:56 FIRST THIRTY YEARS OF HIS MINISTRY, BUT HE WAS 05:59 PREACHING WE NEED TO PREPARE FOR THE SECOND 06:01 COMING OF CHRIST AND THAT THE SABBATH WAS GOD'S TRUE 06:05 HOLY DAY. 06:06 IT WASN'T JUST A TRADITION OF THEIR TRIBE. 06:08 IT WAS SOMETHING MANDATED BY GOD IN ALL HIS HOLY 06:12 BOOKS EVEN BEFORE HE EVER SAW A BIBLE, A NEW 06:15 TESTAMENT OR OLD TESTAMENT. 06:16 AND SO HE ACTUALLY WAS PREACHING THIS IN HIS 06:19 COUNTRY. 06:20 HE ACTUALLY WENT TO JAIL NUMEROUS TIMES OVER HIS 06:23 PREACHING OF THE SABBATH IN HIS COUNTRY. 06:26 YOU MENTIONED THE SECOND COMING AND I READ AN 06:28 ARTICLE RECENTLY IN CHRISTIANITY TODAY THAT 06:30 WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW IT'S ACTUALLY MUSLIMS THAT TALK 06:33 THE MOST ABOUT THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS. 06:38 MAYBE IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT CONTEXT THAN WE 06:40 MIGHT. 06:41 IT'S TRUE THEY MIGHT HAVE THEIR ESCHATOLOGY A LITTLE 06:44 DIFFERENT THAN WE DO BUT DEFINITELY THERE'S A 06:50 STRONG RESURGENCE SINCE 9/11 IN THE MUSLIM WORLD 06:55 THAT'S SAYING WE ARE CLOSE TO THE LAST DAY. 06:57 WE ARE CLOSE TO WHAT THEY CALL THE DAY OF JUDGMENT, 07:00 CLOSE TO THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST. 07:02 AND SO WE'VE SEEN MAGAZINE ARTICLES, PEOPLE ON TV 07:06 TALKING ABOUT THIS AND BOOKS WRITTEN ALL ACROSS 07:09 THE MUSLIM--- WHERE IT'S SAYING THE TIME OF THE END 07:12 IS AT HAND, IT'S NEAR, WE NEED TO PREPARE FOR THE 07:15 SECOND COMING OF JESUS. 07:16 IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE USING SOME OF THESE 07:18 BRIDGES OF COMMON INTEREST IN REACHING THESE PEOPLE, 07:24 COMMON TRUTHS THAT THEY KNOW. 07:25 YES. 07:26 SOME MORE STORIES PERHAPS? 07:27 SO YES, ALSO IN ANOTHER COUNTRY ONE OF OUR 07:31 WORKERS, BECAUSE EVERYONE I START WORKING WITH I 07:34 REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHO THEY ARE, WHAT'S BEHIND 07:37 THEM AND IT GIVES US INSIGHT SO WE KNOW HOW TO 07:39 WORK. 07:40 LIKE THE PEOPLE I TALKED ABOUT IN THE FIRST STORY I 07:43 ONLY FOUND OUT ALL THIS BECAUSE WE TALKED AND 07:46 TALKED AND THEN ENCOURAGED THEM TO BUILD UPON WHAT 07:49 THEY HAD BEEN WORKING. 07:50 SO IN ANOTHER COUNTRY, THIS ONE IN SOUTHEAST 07:53 ASIA, I MET THIS LEADER. 07:55 HE WAS A PART OF OUR MOVEMENT ALREADY WORKING 07:57 WITH THESE UNDERGROUND HOUSE CHURCHES AND 07:58 TALKING, TALKING TO HIM. 07:59 WELL WHO WERE YOU, WHAT WERE YOU DOING. 08:00 WELL MY DAD WAS A RELIGIOUS LEADER AND HE 08:01 WAS PREPARING ME SINCE A CHILD TO TAKE HIS PLACE 08:03 BECAUSE IN OUR SYSTEM YOU INHERIT OR YOU GROW INTO 08:05 IT IF YOU ARE GOOD. 08:08 IF A SON DOESN'T TAKE IT THAN YOU CAN PASS IT TO 08:15 SOMEONE ELSE, BUT MY FATHER PREPARED ME SINCE 08:19 THE TIME I WAS A CHILD. 08:21 HE WAS EQUIVALENT TO LIKE MAYBE A CONFERENCE 08:24 PRESIDENT TO THEIR RELIGIOUS SYSTEM. 08:27 IT'S AN ISLAMIC SYSTEM BUT THEY HAVE WITHIN ISLAM 08:32 LIKE SUFI ORDERS. 08:33 AND SO HIS FATHER BELONGED TO A VERY LARGE SUFI 08:36 ORDER. 08:37 SO I SAID TELL ME MORE ABOUT THIS ORDER. 08:40 WELL, MY FATHER IS LIKE A CONFERENCE PRESIDENT. 08:43 HE WAS HOPING I WOULD BE A LEADER AND ALWAYS, SINCE I 08:47 WAS ABOUT TWELVE, HE WOULD TAKE ME TO THE NATIONAL 08:51 LEADERSHIP MEETINGS THAT WOULD BE LIKE OUR WORKERS 08:53 MEETINGS LIKE ON THE NAD LEVEL, NORTH AMERICAN 08:55 DIVISION. 08:56 AND SINCE I WAS A KID I WOULD ALWAYS SIT BESIDE MY 08:59 DAD. 09:00 HE INTRODUCED ME AND I KNOW ALL THE RELIGIOUS 09:01 LEADERSHIP IN THE COUNTRY FROM OUR ORDER. 09:04 AND WHAT'S THE SIZE OF THE ORDER? 09:06 WELL IT'S PRETTY BIG, IT'S INTO THE TENS OF MILLIONS. 09:09 WELL TELL ME MORE. 09:11 WELL WE HAVE THE SABBATH IN OUR ORDER. 09:15 I SAID WHAT, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THIS CONCEPT OF THE 09:19 SABBATH? 09:20 ABSOLUTELY. 09:20 EVER SINCE I WAS A CHILD MY FATHER HAS VERY 09:23 FAITHFULLY RESTED ON THE SABBATH DAY EVEN MORE THAN 09:26 ANYONE ELSE THAT I KNOW. 09:28 OUR FAMILY HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY OBSERVANT. 09:30 THAT'S WHY I EVENTUALLY BECAME AN ADVENTIST AND 09:33 THEN I CAME BACK TO WORK IN THE UNDERGROUND 09:35 MOVEMENT THAT WE HAVE. 09:37 AND SO I START GETTING EXCITED. 09:39 YOU NEED TO GO BACK AND WORK WITH YOUR FATHER. 09:41 TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, BECAUSE HE HAD BEEN 09:44 KIND OF ESTRANGED FROM HIS FATHER FROM BECOMING A 09:46 CHRISTIAN. 09:47 BUT NOW SOMEHOW HE WAS ABLE TO RE-ESTABLISH THAT 09:48 CONNECTION BACK WITH HIS FAMILY. 09:49 HIS FATHER TOOK AN EARLY RETIREMENT AND GAVE HIM 09:51 THE LEADERSHIP AS WELL KNOWING THAT HE WAS A 09:52 FOLLOWER OF JESUS. 09:53 AND NOW IN THE LAST LIKE TWO YEARS I'VE CHALLENGED 09:54 HIM THAT YOU NEED TO NOW TAKE THIS MESSAGE TO YOUR 10:09 WHOLE ORDER. 10:10 AND SO HE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE LEADERSHIP. 10:13 VERY HIGH LEADERS WITHIN THIS ORDER HAVE BECOME 10:16 FOLLOWERS OF JESUS. 10:18 AND SO OUR DREAM IS THAT EVENTUALLY, ONCE THE TIME 10:22 IS RIGHT, THEN THEY CAN SHARE THE GOSPEL THROUGH 10:24 THE WHOLE ORDER, THOSE THAT ARE WITHIN HIS SPHERE 10:27 AND WHO WERE WITH HIM AND HIS FATHER IN WHAT YOU 10:31 MIGHT CALL A UNION FOR US. 10:33 THERE ARE SEVERAL HUNDRED OF THESE GROUPS BECAUSE 10:35 THEY ALREADY MEET EVERY TWO WEEKS. 10:37 AND ALREADY SEVERAL HUNDRED OF THESE HAVE 10:42 BECOME FOLLOWERS OF JESUS AND NOW THEY ARE DREAMING 10:45 BECAUSE THEY USED TO MEET ON LIKE THURSDAY NIGHTS. 10:48 SO NOW THEY'RE TALKING WITH THE NATIONAL 10:50 LEADERSHIP LET'S MOVE THIS TO MEET ON FRIDAY NIGHTS 10:54 SO WE USHER IN THE SABBATH. 10:55 AND SO GOD IS JUST WORKING IN VERY POWERFUL WAYS 11:00 AROUND THE WORLD AND HE KEEPS TELLING ME, MARTY I 11:03 NEED MORE WORKERS. 11:04 WE ALREADY HAVE THIS WHOLE MOVEMENT WHO IS READY. 11:08 AND WHEN I GO AND TELL THEM THAT GOD HAS JUST 11:10 OPENED A WAY AND A WORKER ASKS THEM, DO YOU KNOW WHY 11:12 WE ARE KEEPING SABBATH ALREADY AND THEY SAY WELL, 11:14 IT'S OUR TRADITION, THERE'S A FEW VERSES IN 11:16 THE KORAN, THE WORKER SAYS LET ME SHARE WITH YOU MORE 11:19 FROM THE PREVIOUS SCRIPTURE. 11:21 AND SO THEN HE WILL OPEN UP AND PEOPLE ARE AMAZED. 11:23 AND SO IN A COUNTRY WHERE THE BIBLE WOULD BE KIND OF 11:27 DANGEROUS FOR THEM TO HAVE, BUT SINCE THEY OPEN 11:29 WITH THIS BEGINNING WEDGE OF DO YOU KNOW WHY WE KEEP 11:32 THE SABBATH, IT'S SO MUCH CLEARER IN THE PREVIOUS 11:35 SCRIPTURE, AS MUSLIMS CALL IT. 11:37 AND SO HE WILL THEN OPEN THE BIBLE AND START TO 11:39 EXPLAIN. 11:40 AND SO HE HAS JUST FOUND THE RESISTANCE GO WAY WAY 11:44 DOWN AS HE NOW STARTS TEACHING THEM FROM THE 11:46 BIBLE. 11:47 HE KEEPS SAYING MARTY I NEED TWENTY MORE WORKERS. 11:48 IF YOU HAD FORTY MORE WORKERS WE COULD JUST MAKE 11:51 THIS EXPLODE ACROSS OUR WHOLE NETWORK THAT WE 11:56 HAVE. 11:57 SO WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO HAVE A WORKER, WHAT DOES 12:01 IT COST? 12:03 BASICALLY AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT $100 TO $150 12:06 DOLLARS. 12:06 PER MONTH? 12:07 PER MONTH. 12:08 SO IF THERE IS $100 FOR EXAMPLE PER MONTH TIMES 12:09 TWELVE MONTHS $1200, $1500 WOULD REALLY BE A GOOD 12:10 AMOUNT TO COVER THESE WORKERS. 12:11 THEY NEED SOME TRAVEL IN THE FIELD. 12:12 BUT IT WOULD JUST MAKE A MASSIVE IMPACT. 12:14 IT WOULD. 12:15 AND I'M THINKING RIGHT NOW ABOUT HOW EASILY WE CAN GO 12:16 THROUGH A HUNDRED DOLLARS, A HUNDRED AND FIFTY 12:17 DOLLARS AND WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THAT TO PAY FOR 12:18 SOMEBODY FOR A WHOLE MONTH AND EVEN FIFTEEN HUNDRED 12:20 DOLLARS FOR MANY OF US IS NOT A HUGE SACRIFICE. 12:21 IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT. 12:22 IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO TO MAKE A BIG 12:23 DIFFERENCE. 12:24 YOU KNOW IF MEANS NOT GOING A MONTH A COUPLE OF 12:40 TIMES TO THE RESTAURANT, TO STARBUCKS AND MAKING A 12:43 SMALL SACRIFICE. 12:44 IT CAN PUT A WORKER IN A CLOSED COUNTRY WHO CAN, 12:56 I'M READY TO SIGN UP, I REALLY AM. 12:58 I'M SAYING TO MYSELF, YOU KNOW THIS IS THE FIRST 13:00 TIME I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVIEW 13:01 YOU AND REALLY HEAR ABOUT THIS WORK IN DETAIL SO 13:04 YES, I'M SAYING TO MYSELF I'M GOING HOME AND TALK TO 13:06 MY HUSBAND ABOUT THIS TONIGHT. 13:08 ARE THERE OTHER STORIES THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE 13:11 ALONG THIS LINE OF REACHING OUT? 13:14 THERE ARE. 13:15 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU TAKE A BREAK? 13:16 YES I DO. 13:17 LET'S TAKE ONE RIGHT NOW IS A GREAT PLAN. 13:19 OKAY, SO WE'LL TAKE A BREAK AND BE RIGHT BACK 13:23 WITH YOU IN A FEW MOMENTS SO DO STAY TUNED. 13:28 MARTY HAS A LOT MORE TO SHARE WITH US. 13:32 WHY HASN'T JESUS COME? 13:34 IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE A JOB TO DO, ONE THAT HIS RETURN 13:39 DEPENDS ON. 13:40 THE BIBLE TELLS US THAT CHRIST WILL COME AFTER THE 13:45 GOSPEL HAS BEEN PREACHED IN ALL THE WORLD. 13:48 THE WORLD'S POPULATION EXCEEDS 7 BILLION, BUT 3 13:52 BILLION PEOPLE STILL NEED TO HEAR ABOUT JESUS' LOVE. 13:56 NINETY-SEVEN PERCENT OF THE UNREACHED PEOPLE LIVE 13:59 IN THE AREA FROM 10 TO 40 DEGREES NORTH OF THE 14:04 EQUATOR. 14:05 GOSPEL OUTREACH HAS A UNIQUE APPROACH. 14:07 WITH THE SUPPORT OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU, WE SPONSOR LOCAL 14:12 GOSPEL WORKERS IN MORE THAN FIFTY COUNTRIES. 14:15 BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE LANGUAGE, CULTURE AND 14:18 RELIGIONS OF THEIR NEIGHBORS, THEY FACE FEWER 14:21 CHALLENGES THAN FOREIGN MISSIONARIES WOULD. 14:23 TOGETHER WITH YOU, WE FUND MORE THAN TWO THOUSAND 14:28 BIBLE WORKERS, BUT MORE ARE NEEDED. 14:30 LET'S REACH THE UNREACHED WITH THE SAVING POWER OF 14:34 GOD'S LOVE! 14:35 JOIN US! 14:36 SPONSOR A BIBLE WORKER. 14:38 DONATE. 14:39 PRAY. 14:40 WELCOME BACK TO ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS. 14:42 AND WE HAVE HERE WITH US MARTY PHILLIPS AND HE IS 14:45 GOING TO BE SHARING A FEW MORE INCREDIBLE STORIES 14:48 COMING RIGHT UP. 14:49 BUT FIRST I WANT TO REMIND YOU TO BE SURE THAT YOU'RE 14:52 GETTING YOUR OWN COPY OF OUR NEWSLETTER, ADVENTURES 14:54 IN MISSIONS, FROM GOSPEL OUTREACH. 14:57 YOU WANT TO HAVE THIS COMING TO YOUR HOME SO 14:58 THAT YOU CAN LEARN ABOUT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE 15:02 GOING ON RIGHT NOW, THE LATEST STUFF. 15:04 ALWAYS THE LEAD STORY IS SO FASCINATING, NOT THAT 15:07 THE REST OF IT ISN'T AS WELL, BUT I PARTICULARLY 15:09 NOTICE THIS FRONT PAGE STORY. 15:11 WE READ THEM TOGETHER AS A FAMILY AND OUR KIDS ENJOY 15:13 IT TOO. 15:14 SO BE SURE YOU'RE GETTING THIS COMING INTO YOUR HOME 15:16 AND YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR SCREEN THERE WAYS TO 15:18 CONTACT US. 15:19 WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE SUPPORT THAT IS NEEDED 15:22 AND THE WORK THAT MARTY PHILLIPS IS DOING AND THE 15:24 OTHER WORK HERE AT GOSPEL OUTREACH. 15:26 SO BE SURE TO BE A PART OF THAT. 15:28 USE THE CONTACT INFORMATION SO THAT YOU 15:30 CAN CONTRIBUTE AND YOU CAN BE A PART OF THIS MINISTRY 15:33 THAT'S TELLING ABOUT THE LOVE OF JESUS TO PEOPLE 15:36 WHO ARE WAITING TO HEAR IT. 15:40 ALRIGHT, MUST CONTINUE. 15:41 I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME TO SHARE WITH US ABOUT SOME 15:44 ADDITIONAL GROUPS. 15:46 AND SOME OF THESE ARE GROUPS OF PEOPLE WHERE 15:50 CHRISTIANS HAVE ALREADY BEEN WORKING AND NOW THEY 15:52 HAVE KIND OF HANDED IT OVER TO YOU. 15:55 HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? 15:56 WELL, NUMEROUS DIFFERENT FACTORS HAVE HAPPENED BUT 16:02 SOMETIMES IN SOME PLACES MISSIONARIES HAVE COME TO 16:06 RETIREMENT AND THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING IN A CLOSED 16:08 COUNTRY AND SINCE WE HAVE BUILT THIS NETWORK OF 16:10 SUPPORTING UNDERGROUND HOUSE CHURCHES AND WE HAVE 16:13 REGIONAL DIRECTORS IN THE AREAS, MANY OF THESE, LIKE 16:17 JUST RECENTLY I MET IN MINNESOTA A MISSIONARY WHO 16:20 HAD WORKED THIRTY-FIVE Y EARS IN A CLOSED COUNTRY 16:23 IN AFRICA, WESTERN AFRICA, WHO WANTED TO GO HOME BUT 16:30 HE DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE THIS UNDERGROUND HOUSE 16:33 CHURCH NETWORK WITH THE TYPICAL BAPTIST CHURCH 16:36 THAT HE BELONGED TO. 16:37 AND SO HE CONTACTED OUR PEOPLE AND ASKED IF WE 16:40 WOULD BE WILLING TO OVERSEE THIS MINISTRY. 16:43 IT WAS JUST A BLESSING HANDED TO YOU. 16:45 AND SO IT'S JUST BEEN HANDED TO US LIKE THIS AND 16:49 HE HAS A WHOLE NETWORK OF UNDERGROUND HOUSE CHURCHES 16:52 IN THAT COUNTRY AND THAT STORY HAS BEEN REPLICATED. 16:55 WE HAVE FOUND OTHERS WHERE THE MISSIONARIES HAVE 16:57 ALREADY GONE HOME AND THE NETWORK THEMSELVES COMES 17:01 LOOKING FOR US. 17:02 FOR EXAMPLE IN ANOTHER VERY CLOSED COUNTRY A 17:06 WHOLE NETWORK HAS BEEN BANGING ON OUR DOOR FOR 17:09 THE LAST THREE YEARS TO COME TEACH US YOUR 17:12 BELIEFS. 17:13 WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT WHAT YOU DO AND WE WANT TO BE A 17:15 PART OF THIS ADVENTIST NETWORK OF UNDERGROUND 17:18 HOUSE CHURCHES AND WILL YOU PLEASE FOLLOW UP WITH 17:21 US. 17:22 OKAY, IF THEY HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR THREE YEARS 17:23 IT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE? 17:25 WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS. 17:26 WE HAVE THE PEOPLE BUT WE NEED FUNDING. 17:29 SO FOR EXAMPLE FOR THIS COUNTRY WE NEED LIKE 17:32 FIFTEEN SALARIES. 17:33 THEY'RE NOT BIG BUT THEY ARE $150 A MONTH STIPENDS 17:37 THAT WE NEED AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MORE FUNDING. 17:41 IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE LIKE SO MANY OF THESE REQUESTS 17:43 WE NEED ABOUT 350 MORE WORKERS. 17:47 AND SO THIS IS OUR MAIN THING THAT'S HOLDING US 17:51 BACK. 17:52 SO WE JUST HAVE COUNTRY AFTER COUNTRY AND ANOTHER 17:54 COUNTRY WE HAVE JUST HAD, IT'S A BIG COUNTRY BUT 17:59 THERE WERE MAYBE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE NETWORKS. 18:03 THE MISSIONARIES WENT HOME. 18:05 THOSE MISSIONARIES HAVE GIVEN US THEIR BLESSING TO 18:07 PLEASE WORK WITH OUR GROUP IF YOU CAN. 18:10 AND WE JUST HAVE NOT HAD THE RESOURCES TO DO IT. 18:13 AND THAT IS A TRUE TRAGEDY. 18:15 REALLY IT IS. 18:16 THAT'S A VERY BIG TRAGEDY. 18:18 SO IT'S BASICALLY A MATTER OF FINANCES AT THIS TIME. 18:22 WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE T FOLLOW UP. 18:25 WE HAVE FOUND THAT ONCE THERE IS FUNDING TO GET 18:28 THEM GOING, THROUGH LOCAL TITHES AND OFFERINGS THEY 18:31 CAN THEN SELF SUSTAIN WITHIN ABOUT THREE AND A 18:33 HALF TO FOUR YEARS. 18:35 THAT'S GOOD. 18:36 SO REALLY YOU'RE SAYING YOU NEED 350 MORE WORKERS 18:40 OVERALL FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING 18:42 THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. 18:43 YES. 18:44 SO WE JUST NEED 350 PEOPLE WHO COULD GIVE $1500, 18:47 COUPLE OF THOUSAND A YEAR AND IT WOULD BE TAKEN CARE 18:51 OF. 18:52 IT WOULD. 18:53 IT WOULD AND IT WOULD GIVE REALLY SIGNIFICANT 18:55 RESULTS. 18:56 WE THINK THAT WE WOULD JUST SEE A MASSIVE, RIGHT 19:00 NOW WITHIN OUR NETWORK THERE IS SOMEWHERE AROUND 19:04 SEVENTY THOUSAND WORSHIPPING GROUPS. 19:07 NOW THESE AREN'T BIG GROUPS. 19:09 THESE ARE SOMEWHERE EIGHT TO TWELVE PEOPLE IN A 19:11 GROUP AND MAYBE AROUND EIGHTEEN TO TWENTY 19:15 THOUSAND OF THESE ARE LIKE ORGANIZED, UNDERSTAND ALL 19:20 OF ADVENTIST BELIEF, THE CORE GROUPS. 19:22 OTHERS ARE IN A PROCESS. 19:25 SO THEY HAVE ACCEPTED THE SABBATH OR THEY HAVE 19:26 ACCEPTED JESUS OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 19:30 SO THEY ARE IN A PROCESS BUT THEY ARE MOVING 19:34 TOWARDS CORE ADVENTIST BELIEFS. 19:36 YES. 19:37 SO WE THINK THAT IF WE WERE TO HAVE ANOTHER, WE 19:41 RIGHT NOW HAVE AROUND 360 WORKERS AT THE PRESENT AND 19:45 WE NEED TO ABOUT DOUBLE THAT. 19:47 WE HAVE THE CAPACITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE TO DEAL 19:50 WITH THAT, BUT WE WOULD SEE A SIGNIFICANT GROWTH 19:54 IN THE MOVEMENT IF WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE THAT FUNDING. 19:57 THAT BRINGS ME TO A QUESTING I'M HAVING AS I'M 19:59 THINKING ABOUT SUPPORTING YOU MYSELF. 20:01 SO HOW DOES YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE WORK? 20:06 YOU KNOW THIS SEEMS CHALLENGING IN PLACES 20:08 WHERE YOU CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU 20:10 ARE. 20:11 WELL, IT'S QUITE INTERESTING. 20:13 WE USE WHAT WE CALL AN ORGANIZED NON-HIERARCHICAL 20:17 SYSTEM. 20:18 AND SO WE HAVE THE POWER OF INFLUENCE OVER OUR 20:21 MINISTRY SO I CAN'T GO AND TELL A REGIONAL DIRECTOR 20:24 JUMP AND GO DO THIS LIKE LET'S SAY A CONFERENCE 20:27 PRESIDENT MIGHT TELL HIS PASTOR BECAUSE WE WORK 20:30 WITH PEOPLE OF SIGNIFICANCE AND 20:32 INFLUENCE. 20:33 IN SOME COUNTRIES IT'S TRIBAL LEADERS. 20:36 IN SOME PLACES IT'S RELIGIOUS LEADERS AND WE 20:39 SUPPLEMENT THEIR INCOME. 20:41 MOST OF OUR WORKERS HAVE OTHER SOURCES OF INCOME 20:43 BUT THIS HELPS COMPENSATE THEM OR WE WILL MOVE A NEW 20:47 WORKER TO A NEW AREA TO GO HELP. 20:50 LIKE ONE OF THESE HOUSE CHURCH MOVEMENTS THAT ARE 20:52 SAYING COME WORK WITH US. 20:53 SO WE WILL SEND SOMEONE TO WORK WITH THEM WHO WILL BE 20:56 A TRAINER AND FIND THE BEST PEOPLE AMONG THEM WHO 20:59 WILL THEN CONTINUE TO LEAD THEIR MOVEMENTS. 21:02 SO WE, FOR EXAMPLE DONATIONS WE SEND, WE HAVE 21:06 FOUND WAYS TO SEND TO DIFFERENT COUNTRIES 21:10 REGISTRATIONS SENT TO THE NAME OF THE LOCAL LEADER 21:12 THEN THEY SEND FUNDING OUT. 21:15 AND WITH TODAY'S BANKING WITH A FEW PRESSES OF THE 21:19 BUTTON YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE HEAVY INFRASTRUCTURE. 21:22 IN MOST OF OUR COUNTRIES OUR ORGANIZATION SENDS TO 21:24 A LOCAL ORGANIZATION AND THEN WITH A FEW HITS OF 21:25 THE BUTTON THE SALARIES ARE PAID MONTHLY 21:27 AUTOMATICALLY. 21:27 SO IT'S PRETTY EASY STREAMLINED. 21:29 IT'S ON QUICKBOOKS AND WITH VOLUNTEERS AND STUFF 21:30 WE BASICALLY OPERATE. 21:31 WE HAVE FOUND WITH TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY, IT WOULD HAVE 21:32 BEEN IMPOSSIBLE TWENTY YEARS AGO. 21:33 YES. 21:34 BUT WITH TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY YOU CAN OPERATE 21:35 A PRETTY LARGE ORGANIZATION WITHOUT A LOT 21:37 OF HEAVY SYSTEMS AND WITHOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE. 21:58 YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS FIGURED THAT OUT 22:00 IN THE WORLD. 22:01 ACTUALLY I'M THINKING ABOUT SOME NOT SO SAVORY 22:05 ORGANIZATIONS THAT RUN THIS WAY TOO PROBABLY. 22:09 LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEN HOW OFTEN YOU 22:12 GET TO GO AND SEE THE WORK THAT'S HAPPENING AND VISIT 22:16 THE PLACES. 22:17 SO WE VISIT SOME PLACES WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, BUT WE 22:21 HAVE WHAT WE CALL, AND THIS MIGHT HELP ANSWER 22:23 PART OF THE QUESTION. 22:24 WE RUN A TRAINING OF TRAINER SYSTEM. 22:27 SO ALL THE WAY DOWN WE TRY TO HAVE THAT EVERY HOUSE 22:29 CHURCH LEADER IS AT LEAST EVERY TWO WEEKS, IN THE 22:33 BEGINNING UNTIL HE IS WELL GROUNDED, AS A PART OF A 22:37 TRAINING SYSTEM. 22:38 EVERY HOUSE CHURCH LEADER HE IS TRYING TO PLANT 22:41 ANOTHER SIX HOUSE CHURCHES AND SO FORTH. 22:43 SO WE TRY TO SEE THAT WE PLANT SIX ACROSS FOUR DEEP 22:48 AND EVERYONE KEEPS IN TOUCH. 22:50 SO I TRY TO CALL ALL THE WORKERS I WORK WITH ON 22:54 FRIDAYS FOR EXAMPLE. 22:55 AT LEAST TWICE A MONTH IF NOT MORE I TRY TO KEEP IN 22:59 CONTACT WITH THE PEOPLE I WORK. 23:02 THEY IN TURN TRY TO KEEP IN CONTACT AND THEY HAVE 23:05 LOCAL MEETINGS. 23:06 WE TRY TO HAVE EVERY YEAR TO EIGHTEEN MONTHS A 23:10 WORLD-WIDE MEETING WITH OUR MAIN LEADERS. 23:13 SO THEN THEY HAVE-AND YOU HAVE OTHER MAIN LEADERS 23:15 THAT WORK WITH YOU? 23:16 YES. 23:17 AND SO WE'RE LIKE IN SOME PLACES SIX TO EIGHT LEVELS 23:22 DEEP. 23:23 AND SO WE BRING THE REGIONAL DIRECTORS OR 23:26 COUNTRY LEADERS THAT WE WORK WITH. 23:28 THEY ON A QUARTERLY BASIS MEET WITH THE PEOPLE UNDER 23:32 THEM. 23:32 THOSE USUALLY MEET ON A MONTHLY. 23:34 BY THE TIME YOU GET TO A HOUSE CHURCH LEADER THEY 23:36 ARE TRYING TO MEET EVERY WEEK TO TWO WEEKS. 23:38 YES. 23:39 VERY GOOD. 23:40 IT'S A GOOD SYSTEM. 23:42 AND TELL ME ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIP WITH GOSPEL 23:44 OUTREACH AND WE HAVE A COUPLE MINUTES LEFT FOR 23:46 THAT. 23:47 YES, WELL WE HAVE HAD, I USED TO DO THIS WORK, I 23:50 USED TO WORK FOR THE GENERAL CONFERENCE AND I 23:52 WAS THE COORDINATOR FOR UNDERGROUND HOUSE CHURCHES 23:54 AMONG MUSLIMS. 23:56 THAT KIND OF GREW BEYOND BEING A SMALL EXPERIMENT. 23:59 THERE WERE SOME SECURITY ISSUES AS WELL AS SOME 24:01 OTHER THINGS BUT IT WAS MUCH SAFER IN THE END TO 24:05 RUN THIS AS A SUPPORTING MINISTRY. 24:06 AT THAT TIME WE HAD PARTNERED ALREADY WITH 24:10 GOSPEL OUTREACH AND WE HAVE CONTINUED THAT 24:14 PARTNERSHIP EVER SINCE THEN AND IN AN EXPANDING 24:17 WAY AS WE HAVE GONE INTO OTHER PEOPLE GROUPS. 24:20 SO WE HAVE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH SINCE 24:24 2001 I BELIEVE, 2002. 24:28 SINCE JANUARY 2002 WE HAVE WORKED WITH, IT'S A 24:32 LONG-TERM CONNECTION, WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH FIRST IN 24:35 ONE COUNTRY IN THE MIDDLE EAST NORTH AFRICA REGION 24:37 AND THERE IT HAS JUST GROWN AND GROWN UNTIL WE 24:41 NOW WORK IN MANY MANY COUNTRIES TOGETHER IN A 24:44 PARTNERSHIP. 24:45 ANY LAST STORY YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH US BEFORE WE 24:49 HAVE TO CLOSE OUT THIS EPISODE? 24:52 WELL, WE'VE JUST SEEN THAT GOD IS EAGER TO FINISH HIS 24:57 WORK TIME AND TIME AGAIN. 25:00 AND HE WILL GIVE DREAMS, HE WILL GIVE VISIONS TO 25:03 PEOPLE TO PREPARE THEM. 25:05 AND WE REALLY SEE ALMOST A PENTECOST LEVEL OF GOD 25:09 OUTPOURING HIS SPIRIT ON OUR FRONTLINE WORKERS. 25:13 THEY WILL PRAY AND THEY WILL SEE PEOPLE HEALED. 25:16 THEY WILL, FOR EXAMPLE ONE YOUNG MAN THAT I MET NOT 25:20 TO LONG AGO, I ASKED HIM WHAT HAS GOD DONE IN YOUR 25:24 LIFE. 25:25 HE SAID WELL LET ME TELL WHAT GOD IS DOING IN THE 25:26 LIVES OF OTHERS AS WELL AS MINE. 25:27 HE HAS TRANSFORMED MY LIFE BUT I WENT TO PRAY WITH MY 25:33 FAMILY AND SOMEONE WAS SICK WITH CANCER AND GOING 25:35 TO DIE, MY FATHER. 25:38 I PRAYED FOR HIM AND WHILE HE DIDN'T DIE HIS PAIN WAS 25:44 TAKEN AWAY. 25:45 I MEAN WHILE HE STILL DIED HIS PAIN WAS RELIEVED 25:48 BECAUSE HE WAS IN GREAT SUFFERING. 25:49 AND SO BEFORE HE DIED HE GAVE HIS HEART TO JESUS. 25:53 AND SO WE JUST SEE MIRACLE STORY AFTER MIRACLE STORY 25:56 HAPPEN OF HOW GOD COMES IN A VERY LITERAL WAY. 25:59 WE'VE SEEN MANY MANY DREAMS OF PEOPLE HAVING OF 26:02 COMING AND SEARCHING AND I'LL TELL JUST ONE STORY. 26:05 ONE OF OUR WORKERS, LIKE OUR REGIONAL DIRECTOR OVER 26:09 ABOUT HALF A DOZEN COUNTRIES IN WEST AFRICA, 26:12 HE WAS TRAVELING, STOPPED AT A LITTLE RESTAURANT 26:14 THAT HAD TABLES OUTSIDE. 26:16 IT WAS LIKE THREE OR FOUR IN THE AFTERNOON. 26:19 HE HAD BEEN TRAVELING ALL DAY AND GETTING SOMETHING 26:21 TO EAT AND HERE COMES THIS OLD MAN WALKING DOWN THE 26:24 ROAD LOOKING AT HIM AND HE IS STARING AT HIM. 26:26 THEN THE MAN COMES AND LOOKS AT HIM AND SAYS, 26:30 YOU'RE THE MAN I'M LOOKING FOR. 26:32 AND HE SAYS WHAT? 26:34 YOU'RE THE MAN I'M LOOKING FOR. 26:35 I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU ALL WEEK. 26:37 I WAS SHOWN IN A DREAM YOU WOULD ARRIVE AND THAT'S 26:39 WHY I CAME LOOKING FOR YOU. 26:41 YOU'RE STOPPING HERE AND YOU'RE COMING TO MY HOUSE. 26:43 INCREDIBLE. 26:44 AND SO HE SAYS WELL WHAT HAPPENED AND THE MAN JUST 26:47 SAYS NO, YOU'RE COMING. 26:49 GOD HAS SHOWN ME A DREAM AND TO WAIT FOR YOU UNTIL 26:51 YOU ARRIVED. 26:52 SO HE WENT TO HIS HOUSE AND TRAINED HIM AND THIS 26:55 MAN IS NOW PLANTING HOUSE CHURCHES IN HIS AREA. 26:57 FANTASTIC. 26:57 THANK YOU SO MUCH MARTY. 26:58 REMEMBER TO SUPPORT THE WORK THAT MARTY IS DOING 27:00 THROUGH GOSPEL OUTREACH NPRAXIS. 27:01 EXCUSE ME, GOT A LITTLE COUGH THAT'S CATCHING 27:02 HERE. 27:03 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TUNING IN TO ADVENTURES IN 27:04 MISSIONS. 27:05 SEE YOU NEXT TIME. 27:06 [CLOSING MUSIC] |
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