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00:33 WELCOME TO GOSPEL OUTREACH "ADVENTURES IN MISSION"
00:36 AND IT IS AN ADVENTURE AND TODAY WE'RE IN BRENT 00:39 SCULLY'S OFFICE. 00:41 BRENT, WELCOME TO GOSPEL OUTREACH. 00:44 WELL, THANK YOU. 00:44 WELCOME TO YOU TO GOSPEL OUTREACH. 00:47 I THINK WE OUGHT TO SAY IS THANK YOU FOR LETTING US 00:50 USE YOUR OFFICE TODAY. 00:51 WELL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. 00:53 YOU KNOW, I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING AT ALL THE 00:54 PICTURES AND YOUR BOOKS AND IT TELLS ME SO MUCH 00:58 ABOUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO BRENT. 01:00 THE THING THAT IMPRESSES ME THE MOST IS YOU'VE GOT 01:02 A WONDERFUL FAMILY. 01:05 I DO HAVE A WONDERFUL FAMILY. 01:07 I'VE GOT THREE GIRLS AND MY OLDEST IS 21, MY MIDDLE 01:12 IS 20 AND MY YOUNGEST IS 15 AND I HAVE A WONDERFUL 01:15 WIFE. 01:16 WHO SOMEHOW HAS PUT UP WITH YOU FOR ALL THESE 01:18 YEARS? 01:19 SHE IS STILL PUTTING UP WITH ME. 01:20 IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A MIRACLE. 01:21 IT'S A BIG MIRACLE. 01:23 SO, AS PRESIDENT OF GOSPEL OUTREACH HOW HAVE YOU BEEN 01:27 TRAINED TO SIT IN THIS CHAIR? 01:31 YOU KNOW, I THINK THE BIGGEST TRAINING HAS BEEN 01:33 BUILDING HOUSES. 01:34 UM, I'VE BEEN A BUILDER MY WHOLE LIFE, UH HUH, I'VE 01:40 HAD CREWS, I'VE HIRED EMPLOYEES, UM BUILT 01:44 ESTABLISHED A BUSINESS. 01:46 I REMEMBER UM, WHEN I GAVE MY LIFE TO THE LORD, UH 01:51 HUH, YOU KNOW I DISCOVERED THERE WAS A BIGGER PURPOSE 01:54 IN MY LIFE, RIGHT? 01:55 AND I THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY THE INSTIGATOR OF 01:58 ME REALLY DISCOVERING THE LORD IS MY LIFE WAS SORT 02:02 OF JUST FALLING APART IN EVERYWAY AND I REACHED OUT 02:07 FOR GOD, I SAID, LORD, IF YOU ARE REALLY THERE WOULD 02:09 YOU PLEASE SHOW ME BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU ARE. 02:13 YOU KNOW. 02:14 BUT I NEED SOMETHING SUBSTANTIAL. 02:15 I NEED SOMETHING THAT REALLY SHOWS ME BECAUSE 02:17 OTHERWISE THIS ISN'T WORKING. 02:19 THERE IS NO POINT, RIGHT? 02:20 YES. 02:21 YOU KNOW YOU ARE AT THAT POINT IN YOUR LIFE WHERE 02:22 THAT HAS TO BE A POINT OR THERE IS NO POINT AND YOU 02:25 JUST TAKE YOURSELF OUT. 02:27 SO, DID YOU SEE A BRIGHT LIGHT? 02:29 NO, I DIDN'T SEE A BRIGHT LIGHT BUT WHAT I DID 02:32 EXPERIENCE WAS WHEN I PRAYED THAT PRAYER, I FELT 02:36 THIS SORT OF LIKE THIS WARM SENSATION AND LIKE 02:42 GOOSEBUMPS. 02:43 I GOT GOOSEBUMPS ALL OVER AND THIS WARM SENSATION 02:44 FROM MY HEAD IT JUST WENT THROUGH MY BODY ALL THE 02:48 WAY TO MY FEET AND BACK UP AGAIN AND THIS LITTLE, 02:50 STILL SMALL VOICE SAID, WELL, JUST FOLLOW ME. 02:52 H-M-M. 02:54 YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE MOST BIZARRE THING AND I 02:56 EVEN SAID THIS, LORD, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT EVEN 02:58 MEANS? 03:00 WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO FOLLOW YOU? 03:01 YOU KNOW. 03:03 AND HE SAID, JUST FOLLOW ME. 03:04 SO, WHAT THAT MEANT INITIALLY FOR ME WAS THAT 03:08 I NEEDED TO GO WHERE GOD WAS AND IN MY MIND WAS 03:11 THAT WAS CHURCH. 03:13 SO, I STARTED TO GO BACK TO CHURCH. 03:15 SO, YOU GET TO CHURCH. 03:16 I GET TO CHURCH AND INSTEAD OF SITTING ON THE 03:18 BACK ROW, I'M SITTING ON THE FRONT ROW, YOU KNOW. 03:21 IF YOU'RE GOING TO FOLLOW YOU BETTER DO IT FROM THE 03:22 FRONT ROW. 03:23 IF I'M GOING TO FOLLOW, I DON'T WANT ANY 03:25 DISTRACTION. 03:26 I WANT TO HEAR THE STUFF; I WANT TO HEAR THE MEAT 03:29 YOU KNOW. 03:30 I WANT THE WHOLE MEAL AND SO I'M SITTING ON THE 03:30 FRONT ROW AND I COULDN'T GET ENOUGH. 03:32 I'D GO HOME AND I'D OPEN THE BIBLE. 03:34 I COULDN'T GET ENOUGH. 03:35 IT WAS LIKE SOMETHING CLICKED ON IN ME THAT JUST 03:37 SAID JUST FOLLOW ME, LEARN. 03:39 SO, I WAS TRYING TO FOLLOW JESUS AND I WAS TRYING TO 03:41 FOLLOW IN THE WORD, IN PREACHING AND EVERYTHING. 03:43 MY PRAYER LIFE AND I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO PRAY. 03:45 YOU KNOW, I WAS SUCH A BEGINNER CHRISTIAN EVEN 03:47 THOUGH I'D GROWN UP AS CHRISTIAN I WAS SUCH A 03:49 BEGINNER. 03:50 I WAS JUST EATING BABY FOOD AND THAT SPARKED THE 03:53 FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I KNEW GOD HAD A PURPOSE FOR 03:56 ME. 03:57 UM, AT THE TIME MY LIFE WAS REALLY DISRUPTED AND 04:00 YOU KNOW, I TRIED TO GO TO COLLEGE AND I WENT TWO 04:04 SEMESTERS AND I JUST WASN'T ABLE TO. 04:06 I WAS FALLING APART. 04:07 SO, I KNEW THOUGH THAT BUILDING WAS SOMETHING 04:11 SPECIAL. 04:12 I UNDERSTOOD BUILDING VERY EASILY, YOU KNOW AND I 04:15 THOUGHT I WAS PRETTY GOOD AT IT IN TERMS OF BEING 04:16 ABLE TO UNDERSTAND AND BUILD AND WORK WITH MY 04:17 HANDS AND I GOT RIGHT IN THERE AND STARTED BUILDING 04:19 A BUSINESS AND THEN I GOT MARRIED DURING THAT TIME. 04:20 IT ALL MADE SENSE AND THEN I STARTED HAVING KIDS BUT 04:21 DURING THIS PROCESS OF BUILDING THERE WAS STILL 04:30 SOMETHING BIGGER FOR ME IN TERMS OF GOD'S PLAN. 04:38 IT'S LIKE, OK, THERE'S THE PART ABOUT BUILDING HOUSES 04:40 THAT'S GREAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S YOUR MAIN THING BUT 04:43 THE MAIN THING WAS GOD KEPT BRINGING ME GUYS WHO 04:46 WERE KIND OF DOWN AND OUT WORKING FOR ME AND I 04:49 REALIZED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING THAT I WAS GOING 04:51 TO JUST COMMIT MY BUSINESS TO THE LORD FROM THE 04:55 BEGINNING. 04:56 FROM THE VERY BEGINNING AND SO WHAT THAT MEANT WAS 04:58 I WAS JUST GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE WORSHIP EVERYTIME I 05:01 COME TO WORK WITH THE GUYS WHETHER THEY ARE 05:03 CHRISTIANS OR NOT, I WOULD INVITE THEM IN, OF COURSE, 05:05 I'M PAYING THEM TO BE THERE, RIGHT, RIGHT SO 05:08 THEY'RE GOING TO COME. 05:09 THEY COME AND WE HAVE JUST A LITTLE FIVE- OR 05:10 TEN-MINUTE WORSHIPS EVERY MORNING AND SO THE GUYS 05:11 WOULD COME. 05:12 I BUILT MY CREW UP TO SEVEN, EIGHT GUYS AND WE'D 05:13 ALL GATHER AROUND HAVE A LITTLE WORSHIP AND PRAYER. 05:15 UM, BUT IT WAS JUST DIFFERENT. 05:16 I COULD SENSE THAT ALL THROUGH THE DAY THERE WAS 05:17 THIS PEACE ABOUT THE JOB SITE. 05:18 WE'D LISTEN TO CHRISTIAN MUSIC, YOU KNOW. 05:19 I MEAN WHEN YOU ARE IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS, 05:20 THAT IS NOT A TYPICAL CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS. 05:21 THAT IS NOT A CREW I'M USED TO. 05:22 EXACTLY. 05:23 AND SO, WE JUST COMMITED THE BUSINESS TO THE LORD 05:24 AND I REALIZED THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HELP THESE 05:38 GUYS BUT BEING KIND OF A CODEPENDENT MYSELF, I 05:48 DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO HELP THEM. 05:50 I WANTED TO RESCUE THEM. 05:51 UH HUH. 05:53 SO, WHAT THAT DID WAS I INVESTED MYSELF INTO A 05:56 THREE YEAR LAY CHRISTIAN COUNSELING PROGRAM TO 06:01 WHERE I WOULD LEARN THE BASIC PRINCIPLES AND 06:03 SKILLS OF HOW TO REALLY HELP PEOPLE. 06:07 HOW TO BE A SUPPORT FOR YOUR OWN TEAM. 06:09 EXACTLY AND HOW TO SET BOUNDARIES AROUND MYSELF 06:11 SO I'M NOT JUST BEING CODEPENDENT I COULD REALLY 06:14 HELP THEM. 06:14 YES, YES. 06:15 AND REALLY YOU KNOW, NOT JUST ENABLE THEM AND SO I 06:18 DID THAT FOR THREE YEARS AND THEN AFTER I FINISHED 06:22 THAT PROGRAM, THEY INVITED ME TO BE THE DIRECTOR 06:26 WHICH WAS KIND OF ODD BUT I ENJOYED THOSE TWO YEARS 06:30 THAT IWAS COUNSELING. 06:32 I REALLY ENJOYED CONNECTING WITH PEOPLE AND 06:34 WORKING WITH PEOPLE AND YOU ASK THE QUESTION HOW, 06:37 WHAT DID MY PREVIOUS JOB PREPARE ME FOR THIS? 06:39 YES. 06:39 AND THAT'S WHY I'M TELLING YOU THIS. 06:40 THIS WHOLE EXPERIENCE OF HAVING EMPLOYEES AND 06:43 WORKING AND STRUCTURING A BUSINESS AND UNDERSTANDING 06:46 HOW PEOPLE KIND OF WORK AND STUFF AND THEN THE 06:50 SORT OF THE EMOTIONAL SIDE OF THINGS OF UNDERSTANDING 06:53 MYSELF AND UNDERSTANDING THEM WHERE I COULD TRULY 06:56 HELP THEM. 06:57 I REALLY BELIEVE IT PREPARED ME TO WORK 07:01 WITH-TO BE IN THIS SPOT OF WORKING WITH WONDERFUL 07:03 VOLUNTEERS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE PEOPLE. 07:06 WE'RE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW. 07:07 TRAVELING WITH YOU I DISCOVERED SOMETHING THAT 07:10 WAS REALLY HEARTENING TO ME AND THAT WAS THE 07:12 RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR WIFE. 07:14 YOU DIDN'T COME AS BRENT WITH A WIFE YOU CAME AS A 07:18 TEAM. 07:19 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS DEVELOPED THROUGH YOUR 07:21 WHOLE PROCESS OF LEARNING? 07:25 HOW TO SHARE? 07:26 HOW TO LEAD AND HOW TO TRAIN OTHERS WITH YOU? 07:28 YES, UM MY WIFE AND I HAVE LEARNED HOW TO, YOU KNOW, 07:33 SHE KNOWS WHAT I ENJOY DOING AND SHE SUPPORTS ME 07:35 IN THAT. 07:36 SHE DOESN'T LIKE TRY TO TAKE OVER. 07:37 UH HUH. 07:38 BUT SHE SUPPORTS ME IN THAT. 07:41 SHE KNOWS THAT I LOVE THE MINISTRY AND I FIND 07:43 PURPOSE HERE DOING THAT AND SHE ALLOWS THAT 07:46 FREEDOM FOR ME TO DO THAT AND THEN SHE HAS HER 07:49 THING. 07:50 YOU KNOW, MY WIFE IS AN INCREDIBLE SUPPORT TEAM SO 07:51 WE HAVE SORT OF AN UNDERSTANDING. 07:53 SO, I'M KIND OF THE VISIONARY, UH HUH, SO I 07:54 SEE THE BIGGER PICTURE OF THINGS AND YOU KNOW, 07:55 THAT'S THAT MEANS THAT SOMETIMES IT IS A DISASTER 07:57 FOR HER BECAUSE-YOU ARE OFF OVER HERE IN NOWHERE 08:04 LAND, YES, SO WHAT I DO IS I GO AND I PULL THE PIN ON 08:08 THE GRENADE, YES, AND THEN SHE PICKS UP ALL THE 08:10 PIECES. 08:11 I UNDERSTAND FAR TOO WELL. 08:13 THAT'S A GOOD DESCRIPTION OF MY WIFE AND I TOO, 08:16 BECAUSE BRENDA IS THE ONE WHO MAKES SURE THERE IS 08:20 FOOD ON THE TABLE AND I'M THE ONE WHO'S OUT 08:23 PHOTOGRAPHING THE GRIZZLY BEARS. 08:24 EXACTLY. 08:25 FOOD ON THE TABLE, THE KIDS OFF TO SCHOOL, THE 08:28 KIDS HOMEWORK-ALL OF THAT STUFF. 08:31 THE DETAIL. 08:32 THE DETAILS AND THEN SHE MANAGES OUR BUSINESS AND 08:33 STUFF. 08:34 SO, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE GOSPEL OUTREACH WHERE 08:37 YOU HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED THE JOB OF TAKING THIS CROWD 08:40 OF PEOPLE AND GIVING THEM DIRECTION AND PURPOSE. 08:43 UH HUH. 08:44 IT' S LIKE UM, I'M THIS EMPTY VESSEL AND HE'S 08:50 FILLING ME AND DIRECTING ME UM, TO JUST LISTEN AND 08:56 TO FOLLOW. 08:56 UH HUH. 08:57 AND YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS SENSED THAT I OPERATE 09:01 BETTER FROM A NON-TOP-DOWN SORT OF GOVERNMENT, UH 09:05 HUH, BUT I LIKE TO GET IN THERE AND WORK GO WITH 09:08 EACH OTHER. 09:09 WE GO WITH THE TEAM. 09:10 IT'S A TEAM BUILDING EXPERIENCE. 09:11 THIS MINISTRY IS REALLY ABOUT TEAM. 09:14 IT IS A TEAM EXPERIENCE AND I THINK THAT AS TEAM 09:20 GROWS AND CONNECTS AND UNITES AND UM, 09:25 COLLABORATES THAT'S WHAT MAKES THE MINISTRY. 09:28 IT'S NOT JUST ONE PERSON. 09:31 THIS OFFICE, THIS DESK DOES NOT MAKE THE 09:34 MINISTRY, YOU KNOW. 09:36 I'M JUST A SMALL PART OF THIS BIGGER PICTURE THAT 09:39 GOD IS PUTTING TOGETHER, YOU KNOW. 09:41 WE'VE GOT A VOLUNTEER TO COME IN WHO WORK IN THE 09:44 "ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS" PROGRAM, THE AMBASSADOR 09:47 PROGRAM, THE CUSTODIAL, THE PRINTING, THE OFFICE 09:53 MANAGER, THE TREASURER, THE FINANCE-ALL OF THESE 09:57 PEOPLE ARE REALLY WHAT MAKES UP THE BIGGER 09:59 PICTURE. 10:00 MY JOB IS TO JUST BE SUPPORT AND LEARN HOW TO 10:04 JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST ENCOURAGE THEM AND ALLOW 10:06 GOD TO BE AT THE CENTER OF OUR RELATIONSHIP. 10:08 I NOTICE THAT YOU AND JEFF AND SEVERAL OF THE OTHERS 10:09 SPEND A LOT OF TIME SITTING, DREAMING UH HUH, 10:10 AND PRAYING BECAUSE IT IS AS IF THERE IS A REALLY 10:12 BIG PURPOSE HERE THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE 10:27 YOU ARE HOLDING ON TO WHILE THE DETAILS ARE 10:30 ACCOMPLISHED.YES. 10:32 IS THAT A FAIR PICTURE? 10:33 IT IS DEFINITELY A FAIR PICTURE. 10:34 UM, YOU KNOW I REALLY BELIEVE PRAYER IS THE 10:38 MUSCLE BEHIND ANYTHING. 10:40 THE ODD THING ABOUT PRAYER, YOU KNOW, WHEN I 10:43 FIRST CAME HERE UM, I WAS PART OF A PRAYER TEAM 10:46 ALREADY. 10:47 UM, BUT I KNEW THAT WHEN I CAME HERE WHAT I REALLY 10:50 NEEDED WAS TO BUILD A PRAYER TEAM. 10:52 UH HUH. 10:53 YOU KNOW, A PRAYER TEAM OF INTERCESSORS THAT UM, HAVE 10:56 A HEART FOR THE MISSION, WHO KNOW THAT GOD IS THE 10:59 ONLY ONE WHO IS GOING TO DO IT BUT HE HAS TO GET 11:02 THIS MINISTRY TO BE WORKING ON THE INSIDE 11:05 BEFORE IT WORKS ON THE OUTSIDE. 11:06 UH HUH. 11:07 IN FACT, THE MINUTE OUR PRAYER TEAM STARTED TO 11:10 PRAY THE YEAR, ALL OF OUR FINANCES TURNED AROUND AND 11:15 IT TURNED AROUND AND IT'S BEEN GOING UP EVERY YEAR 11:18 SINCE THEN AND IT'S LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW WHAT? 11:22 NOTHING IS TOO HARD FOR THE LORD. 11:24 WELL, IT COMES BACK TO THAT ANSWER THAT YOU GOT 11:26 WHEN YOU PRAYED-FOLLOW ME. 11:27 YES. 11:28 YOU ENDED UP ON THE FRONT ROW OF THE CHURCH AND IT 11:31 SEEMS LIKE GOD HAS PUT YOU ON THE FRONT ROW OF 11:34 MINISTRY AGAIN TOO. 11:36 YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY AN AMAZING ASSIGNMENT FOR 11:38 ME. 11:40 I FEEL SO HONORED TO BE IN THIS POSITION, UM I FEEL 11:43 VERY HUMBLED TO BE IN THIS POSITION BECAUSE YOU KNOW, 11:46 WE ALWAYS CALIBRATE OURSELVES BY OTHER 11:49 PEOPLES' STANDARDS SOMETIMES AND THEIR 11:52 SUCCESSES. 11:54 WHEN GOD SAYS, YOU KNOW, IT IS NOT ABOUT YOUR 11:56 SUCCESSES, IT'S NOT ABOUT YOUR TALENTS IT IS WHAT 11:58 I'M GOING TO DO THROUGH YOU. 12:00 SO, I'M OK WITH THAT. 12:02 I'M MUCH BETTER WITH THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I JUST 12:04 DON'T LOOK AT MYSELF AS HAVING THOSE TALENTS AND 12:08 SKILLS THAT WOULD FIT THIS POSITION BUT I SEE NOW 12:11 THAT GOD USED MY OTHER SKILLS IN A WAY, LIKE TEAM 12:15 BUILDING, STRUCTURE BUILDING, WORKING WITH 12:18 PEOPLE TO BE IN THIS POSITION NOW. 12:20 EVEN THOUGH I'M LEARNING AND I'M GROWING EVERY DAY 12:22 YOU KNOW. 12:23 WE'LL BE BACK IN A FEW MINUTES BUT I WANT TO 12:26 CHALLENGE YOU TO GO TO GOAIM.ORG AND YOU'LL SEE 12:33 THERE A NEWSLETTER. 12:35 CLICK ON THE NEWSLETTER LINK AND MAKE SURE THAT WE 12:37 HAVE YOUR NAME AND THAT YOU'RE RECEIVING THE 12:40 NEWSLETTER EACH MONTH AND THAT YOU HAVE A CHANCE 12:43 OFFICIAL, REAL, LIVE CHANCE TO BE AN ACTIVE 12:47 PART OF GOSPEL OUTREACH'S MINISTRY. 12:49 THANKS FOR JOINING US. 12:52 WHY HASN'T JESUS COME? 12:54 IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE A JOB TO DO. 12:56 ONE THAT HIS RETURN DEPENDS ON. 12:58 THE BIBLE TELLS US THAT CHRIST WILL COME AFTER THE 13:01 GOSPEL HAS BEEN PREACHED IN ALL THE WORLD. 13:05 THE WORLD'S POPULATION EXCEEDS SEVEN BILLION BUT 13:07 THREE BILLION PEOPLE STILL NEED TO HEAR ABOUTJESUS' 13:10 LOVE. 13:12 NINETY-SEVEN PER CENT OF THE UNREACHED PEOPLE LIVE 13:14 IN THE AREA FROM 10 TO 40 DEGREES NORTH OF THE 13:17 EQUATOR FROM WEST AFRICA, THE MIDDLE EAST, INDIA, 13:19 CHINA TO JAPAN. 13:20 GOSPEL OUTREACH HAS A UNIQUE APPROACH. 13:22 WITH THE SUPPORT OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU, WE SPONSOR LOCAL 13:25 GOSPEL WORKERS IN MORE THAN FIFTY COUNTRIES. 13:27 BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE LANGUAGE, CULTURE AND 13:30 RELIGIONS OF THEIR NEIGHBORS THEY FACE FEWER 13:32 CHALLENGES THAN FOREIGN MISSIONARIES WOULD. 13:34 TOGETHER WITH YOU, WE FUND MORE THAN 2000 BIBLE 13:38 WORKERS BUT MORE ARE NEEDED. 13:40 LET'S REACH THE UNREACHED WITH THE SAVING POWER OF 13:45 GOD'S LOVE. 13:46 JOIN US. 13:48 SPONSOR A BIBLE WORKER. 13:50 DONATE. 13:51 PRAY. 13:52 WHEN YOU FIRST SAT DOWN IN THIS CHAIR, YOU DIDN'T 13:55 REALLY STAY IN COLLEGE PLACE, WASHINGTON VERY 13:59 LONG SITTING IN THE CHAIR. 14:01 HOW DID YOU ATTACK THE CHALLENGE OF LEADING 14:03 GOSPEL OUTREACH? 14:07 WELL, MY FIRST EXPERIENCE WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH 14:09 ACTUALLY WAS GOING TO INDIA WITH MANZOOR MASSEY 14:13 AND IN FACT, SEVERAL YEARS PRIOR TO THIS UM, SOME OF 14:20 THE VOLUNTEERS FROM GOSPEL OUTREACH CALLED US AND 14:22 ASKED US IF WE WOULD BE WILLING TO HOST SOME OF 14:24 OUR DIRECTORS WHEN THEY CAME INTO OUR YEARLY 14:26 MEETINGS AND RALLIES. 14:28 WE SAID, SURE. 14:29 SO, DR. MANZOOR MASSEY SHOWS UP AT OUR HOUSE, 14:32 COMES IN AND WE GET TO KNOW MANZOOR AND HE BEGINS 14:33 TO TELL US ABOUT HIS INDIA EXPERIENCES AND THE 14:35 STORIES WERE FASCINATING AND HE BEGAN TO HOOK US 14:36 IN. 14:37 AND WE WENT TO INDIA FOR THE FIRST TIME WITH 14:41 MANZOOR. 14:42 UM, HE TOOK US AROUND INDIA -PART OF THE MISSION 14:46 TRIP THAT HE WANTED TO DO WAS HE WANTED TO SORT OF 14:53 WINE AND DINE US. 14:56 HE WANTED US TO GET US IN, UNDERSTAND THE CULTURE AND 15:01 GIVE US A TOUR OF HIS PEOPLE BECAUSE HE IS 15:03 ORIGINALLY FROM INDIA-GIVE US ATOUR AND HELP US TO 15:08 FALL IN LOVE WITH INDIA AND THEN WE DID OUR 15:10 MISSION AND CAME HOME. 15:11 THAT WAS LIKE WOW! 15:12 TALK ABOUT A CULTURE YOU KNOW, YES, PHENOMENON. 15:13 WE JUST HAD NO IDEA WHAT INDIA WAS LIKE AND THE 15:15 CULTURAL DIFFERENCES BUT WE WENT TO THE SCHOOL, MET 15:16 THESE 700 KIDS AND DID WE DID A WEEK OF PRAYER FOR 15:17 THEM. 15:19 TOOK MY KIDS, TOOK MY WIFE WENT OVER THERE AND GOT TO 15:20 KNOW THESE KIDS AND THE NEATEST THING WAS THE 15:21 MIRACLE OF THE WHOLE THING WAS NOT WITH OUR MEETINGS, 15:23 NECESSARILY OUR MEETINGS BUT TO WATCH TO MY KIDS 15:26 INTERCHANGE WITH THESE OTHER KIDS AND THEY DO IT 15:27 SO COMFORTABLY. 15:28 THEY DO. 15:29 YOU KNOW, AND HERE THESE KIDS HAVE NOTHING, YES. 15:32 OUR KIDS HAVE EVERYTHING, RIGHT? 15:35 YES. 15:36 AND WE GO OVER THERE AND THESE KIDS ARE ACTUALLY 15:39 HAPPY. 15:39 YES. 15:40 YOU KNOW IT IS KIND OF IRONIC BECAUSE HERE WE 15:41 THINK WE HAVE EVERYTHING TO BE HAPPY WITH YOU KNOW, 15:43 EVERYTHING, BECAUSE WE ARE SO BLESSED. 15:44 AND WHEN YOU'R OVER THERE YOU FIND THAT YOU DON'T 15:46 NEED ALL THIS STUFF THAT YOU NEEDED. 15:47 EXACTLY. 15:48 AND THE MIRACLE IS OUR KIDS BEGAN TO SEE THIS. 15:49 YOU KNOW AFTER THE MEETINGS THEY'D SIT AND 15:50 THEY'D BRAID HAIR, THEY'D TELL STORIES TO EACH 15:52 OTHER, UM, THEY JUST FELL IN LOVE WITH OUR KIDS AND 16:08 I REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE GETTING READY TO GO OUR 16:23 KIDS WERE HUGGING-THEY ALMOST FOUND SPECIAL 16:25 LITTLE FRIENDS. 16:26 YES. 16:28 AND THEY ARE SPECIAL LITTLE FRIENDS. 16:30 THEY WOULD HUG AND THEY CONTINUE TO HUG AND HUG 16:32 AND THEY JUST CRIED AND WE KNEW THAT THEY JUST REALLY 16:35 MADE A DEEP SOUL CONNECTION WITH THESE 16:37 KIDS. 16:38 THAT'S WAS REALLY THE MIRACLE FOR US. 16:41 SO, WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY CAME TO BE A FULL TIME -TO 16:44 REALLY POUR YOUR SOUL INTO THIS, YES, IT WAS EASY. 16:48 WHAT DID YOUR CHILDREN SAY TO THAT? 16:49 UM, THEY THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY AN AWESME 16:53 OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW. 16:54 THEY WERE LIKE DAD; THIS IS LIKE KIND OF A DREAM 16:56 COME TRUE FOR YOU. 16:57 LUCKILY. 16:58 YES, THERE WAS A PART OF THAT TOO, BUT THEY KNOW, 17:02 THEY KNOW THAT YOU KNOW I KNOW GOD DOES BIG 17:07 THINGS-BIGGER THAN I COULD EVER IMAGINE. 17:09 YOU KNOW. 17:10 AND THEY JUST KNEW THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING REALLY 17:14 BIG AND THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE PART OF IT. 17:17 YES. 17:19 SO, IF I HAD THE THREE OF THEM HERE TODAY WHAT WOULD 17:21 THEY BE TELLINGME ABOUT DAD AND GOSPEL OUTREACH? 17:26 THEY WOULD PROBABLY SAY DAD LOVES WHAT HE IS DOING 17:28 HERE. 17:29 HE FEELS REALLY PURPOSEFUL. 17:31 UM, HE FEELS LIKE THIS IS WHERE GOD WANTS ME. 17:36 YOU ARE STILL BUILDING HOUSES? 17:39 I'M STILL BUILDING HOUSES BUT I'VE SHIFTED MY 17:42 BUSINESS SO THAT I'M MORE JUST MANAGING 17:44 SUBCONTRACTORS. 17:45 I DON'T HAVE A CREW ANYMORE. 17:48 I'LL HIRE MAYBE ONE PERSON NOW AND THEN TO HELP ME 17:50 BUT NO, I'M MOSTLY JUST MANAGE WHAT I HAVE AND 17:55 THEN JUST I'M HERE MOSTLY. 17:58 I'M HERE. 17:58 SO, GOSPEL OUTREACH HAS TAKEN OVER. 18:01 GOSPEL OUTREACH HAS TAKEN OVER AND STILL TAKING 18:03 OVER. 18:04 YOU KNOW WHEN I FIRST CAME IN HERE, DICK, I DIDN'T 18:06 KNOW ANYTHING REALLY ABOUT GOSPEL OUTREACH. 18:09 YES. 18:10 YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW HOW THEY OPERATED UM 18:12 AND HOW IT FUNCTIONED AND YOU KNOW OUR RELATIONSHIP 18:15 WITH THE MISSIONS OVER THERE, THE UNIONS, THE 18:18 DIVISIONS, UH HUH, THE LOCAL PEOPLE AND IT 18:20 OPERATED. 18:21 I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, YOU 18:24 KNOW. 18:25 I STILL FEEL LIKE I'M LEARNING AND I STILL AM, 18:27 YES, BUT MAN I'M SURE THE LEARNING CURVE HAS SURE 18:30 BEEN BIG HERE. 18:31 SO, IF YOU COULD PAINT A PICTURE FOR ME OF 2025 18:41 WHAT DOES GOSPEL OUTREACH LOOK LIKE? 18:44 YOU KNOW, UM I'M HOPING IF I WOULD SAY LOOKING DOWN 18:48 THE ROAD FOUR OR FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, I 18:52 WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT GOSPEL OUTREACH IS LEADING 18:55 THE WAY IN WHAT FOREIGN MISSIONS LOOKS LIKE TO THE 18:59 CHURCH, TO THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY. 19:02 YOU KNOW, I JUST LOVE THE MODEL THAT THEY HAVE HERE 19:05 WHICH IS TAKING INDIGENOUS, NATIVE PEOPLE 19:08 WHO LIVE IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY, THEY KNOW THE 19:12 CULTURES, THE LANGUAGE, THE TRADITIONS ALL THE 19:15 LITTLE CULTURAL INTRICACIES THAT MAKE IT 19:18 COMPLICATED THAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND. 19:20 WE TAKE THESE PEOPLE WHO ABSOLUTELY ARE FULLY 19:23 COMMITED TO THE LORD, WHO DON'T HAVE MUCH BUT A LOT 19:27 OF FAITH AND WATCHING THEM GO OUT INTO THEIR 19:30 COMMUNITIES AND JUST MINISTER TO THEIR PEOPLE. 19:33 SO, THIS IS GRASSROOTS MISSION SERVICE. 19:35 IT IS GRASS ROOTS MISSION SERVICE, YES AND I THINK 19:39 THAT YOU KNOW, AS WE DEVELOP AND WE ARE 19:41 COLLABORATING WITH OTHER MINISTRIES AND I SEE THAT 19:43 THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG PLUS FOR US IS HOW WE WORK 19:46 ALONGSIDE AND JOIN OTHER MINISTRIES IN SPREADING 19:51 THE GOSPEL, MAKING A MORE WHOLISTIC PICTURE. 19:54 MY EXPERIENCE WITH PEOPLE LIKE JIM REYNOLDS FOR 19:56 INSTANCE, ULTIMATE MISSION, WHO YOU NOW ARE 20:00 REALLY PARTNERING WITH IN A VERY PRODUCTIVE WAY. 20:02 JIM HAS TAUGHT ME SOMETHING THAT -OR I'VE 20:06 SEEN IN JIM SOMETHING REALLY EXCITING IS THAT 20:09 JIM NEVER GOES TO A COUNTRY TO DO SOMETHING 20:13 FOR THEM. 20:15 HE GOES THERE TO LEARN ABOUT THEM AND HELP THEM 20:17 PROVIDE THE RESOURCES TO MEET THE NEEDS THEY HAVE. 20:21 IT'S A SUPPORTIVE KIND OF CONCEPT INSTEAD OF A 20:23 DIRECTIVE. 20:24 YES, AND I THINK THAT IS REALLY THE KEY. 20:27 UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE CAN SUPPORT THEM AND INSPIRE 20:31 THEM AND ENCOURAGE THEM AND PROVIDE TOOLS. 20:35 AND PROVIDE TOOLS THAT'S THE THING AND THAT'S KIND 20:38 OF OUR JOB IS TO BE THE SUPPORTING, THE SUPPORTING 20:40 MISSION THAT REALLY SUPPLIES TOOLS FOR THESE 20:43 BIBLE WORKERS TO GO OUT AND BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE 20:46 THAT THEY CAN BE AND YOU KNOW SOMETHING 20:48 SUBSTANTIAL. 20:50 NOT JUST IDEA., YOU KNOW BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT, OF 20:52 COURSE, FAITH IS AN IDEA RIGHT BUT IT IS MORE THAN 20:57 THAT. 20:58 FAITH HAS TO HAVE HANDS AND FINGERS, TOES AND FEET 21:00 AND I LOVE YOU WITH A HUG, I WANT TO HELP YOU BECAUSE 21:04 YOU ARE SICK. 21:05 YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO HELP MAKE YOUR LIFE BETTER. 21:09 WE WANT TO SERVE YOU. 21:10 WE WANT TO BE JESUS' HANDS, FEET. 21:12 WE WANT TO BE HIS MOUTH. 21:13 WE WANT TO BE HIS SPOKESPEOPLE. 21:16 YOU KNOW, AND OUR SUPPORTING MINISTRY CAN DO 21:18 THAT FOR THESE PEOPLE OVER THERE. 21:19 IT IS INTERESTING THAT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT 21:24 DOES GOSPEL OUTREACH TEACH, WE ALWAYS END UP 21:27 WITH THE SAME PHRASE: JESUS LOVES YOU AND WANTS 21:31 YOU TO GO HOME WITH HIM. 21:32 AMEN. 21:32 LIVE AS BEST AS YOU CAN HERE. 21:35 WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU HOPE AND WE'RE GOING TO 21:36 GIVE YOU A FUTURE FILLED WITH HOPE. 21:37 UH HUH. 21:38 YEP. 21:39 THERE IS ALWAYS A STARTING POINT, RIGHT? 21:40 AND IF YOU GET ON THAT STARTING POINT THEN GOD 21:42 TAKES IT FROM THERE. 21:43 AND WE ALL HAVE THE SAME TEACHER BUT WE A LOT OF 21:44 TIMES IN DIFFERENT CLASSES. 21:45 YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T JUST ALL GRADUATE AT THE SAME 21:46 TIME. 21:47 WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS THIS LORD GROWING US EVERY 21:48 TIME BUT THE POINT IS THAT HE TAKES US AS WE ARE, 21:49 JUST COMPLETELY AS WE ARE BUT HE LOVES US TOO MUCH 21:53 TO LEAVE US THERE. 21:57 SO, HE IS THEN GOING TO MOVE US ALONG IN THE WAY 22:04 IN HIS OWN TIME AND WAY. 22:09 AND SO, GOSPEL OUTREACH'S ROLE IN WORKING WITH 22:14 PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING THROUGH THAT LEARNING TO 22:16 KNOW JESUS AND FOLLOWING ALONG SEEMS TO ME TO BE 22:19 PROVIDING THE RESOURCES AT THEIR SIDE SO THAT THEY 22:22 CAN GO THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 22:25 UH HUH. 22:25 YES, WE DO THAT WE SUPPORT THEM FINANCIALLY. 22:30 WE SUPPORT THEM WITH MATERIALS TO TRAIN WITH OR 22:33 TO LEAD, TO GUIDE BIBLE STUDIES BUT MOSTLY OUR JOB 22:38 IS A SUPPORTING ROLE. 22:39 YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE WAY THEY TEACH, THEY HAVE 22:43 THE WAY THEY TRAIN AND MOST OF THE TIME, UM, IT 22:48 HELPS IF WE ASK HOW WE CAN BEST BENEFIT THEM. 22:53 YOU KNOW, WE GO THERE WANTING TO KNOW HOW CAN WE 22:56 HELP FACILITATE, BE A BLESSING TO YOU? 22:59 YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE YOUR JOB EASIER. 23:01 AND YOU ARE NOT A CHURCH. 23:03 WE ARE NOT A CHURCH BUT WE ARE CONNECTED TO THE 23:06 ADVENTIST CHURCH IN TERMS OF OUR MONEY, OUR FUNDS GO 23:10 THROUGH THE MISSION AS THE ADVENTIST FAITH AND YOU 23:12 ARE THERE AS A SUPPORTIVE ELEMENT TO WHATEVER IS 23:15 HAPPENING LOCALLY TO HELP IT BE MORE EFFECTIVE.YES. 23:18 MORE IMPACTFUL. 23:19 UH HUH. 23:20 TALK TO ME ABOUT HOW THIS IS ALL FUNDED. 23:23 WELL, IT IS FUNDED BECAUSE OF OUR WONDERFUL DONORS. 23:25 IT IS LIKE DONORS LIKE YOURSELF WHO SUPPORT THE 23:28 MINISTRY. 23:29 YOU KNOW, WITHOUT OUR DONORS WE WOULD NOT EXIST 23:30 BUT WE HAVE SUCH A RANGE OF DONORS. 23:31 WE HAVE FAITHFUL UM, WIDOWS WHO GIVE FAITHFULLY 23:33 $5-10 EVERY MONTH AND THAT'S ALL THEY CAN 23:34 AFFORD. 23:35 YES. 23:36 AND THEN WE HAVE OTHER DONORS WHO BELIEVE IN THIS 23:37 BIGGER MISSION TOO, THIS OUTREACH, WHO ARE 23:38 SUPPORTING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, YOU 23:39 KNOW. 23:40 UM AND WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST THREE YEARS 23:45 DESPITE COVID AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS AN 23:56 INCREASE, YES, YES. 24:00 THIS YEAR HAS PARTICULARLY BEEN THE BEST OF THE LAST 24:02 THREE YEARS IN SPITE OF COVID. 24:05 AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE YOUACTUALLY SUPPORTING 24:07 OVERSEAS NOW? 24:09 IT RANGES- IT IS A LITTLE UNDER 2000. 24:12 OK. 24:12 BUT. 24:13 THAT'S A LOT OF WORKERS. 24:15 IT IS A LOT BUT I THINK GOD HAS SOMETHING BIGGER 24:16 IN MIND. 24:17 NOW THAT'S AN INTERESTING COMMENT. 24:18 AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE BUT I 24:25 JUST SENSE THAT YOU KNOW, WE CAN MAINTAIN THOSE 2000 24:29 BUT IF JESUS IS COMING SOON WHICH I REALLY 24:35 BELIEVE HE IS, THEN HE HAS TO STEP THINGS UP A NOTCH 24:39 AND I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH PRAYER. 24:42 IT HAS TO DO WITH US RECOGNIZING WE CAN'T DO 24:45 THIS BECAUSE GOD SAID I WILL FIGHT THOSE BATTLES 24:47 FOR YOU, I WILL GO BEFORE YOU, UM, STAND STILL AND 24:51 WATCH IT HAPPEN. 24:52 SO, THERE IS A PART OF THIS WHOLE CONCEPT OF US 24:57 AS BEING A SUPPORTING, A MINISTRY TO ALSO BEING 25:00 OPEN TO HEARING WHAT GOD IS GOING TO DO IN TERMS OF 25:03 OPENING UP HOW WE TRAIN AND HOW WE COLLABORATE AND 25:06 HOW WE MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WITH 1.2 PLUS 25:10 BILLION PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN INDIA, I MEAN HOW 25:11 AREYOU GOING TO WITH 2000 BIBLE WORKERS, IF YOU 25:14 FIGURE THAT OUT, YOU KNOW. 25:15 IT'S TAKES A LONG TIME TO TOUCH THEM ALL. 25:18 I KNOW BUT I TRULY BELIEVE THERE IS GOING TO BE 25:21 SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL COMING. 25:23 WORK WHERE GOD IS GOING TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO US WHAT 25:27 WE DO AND I THINK ONE OF THE STEPS HE'S BEEN DOING 25:30 IS JOINING US WITH TEAM LIKE GOAL TO MISSION WHERE 25:34 UM, WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING IN THE MEDICAL 25:38 AREA THAT REALLY CAN HELP SERVE HIS PEOPLE. 25:41 I THINK THAT IS JUST A MIRACLE. 25:42 I REALLY AM EXCITED ABOUT THAT. 25:44 I DO BECAUSE THEY LET US IN 100% OF THE HOMES. 25:46 YES, YOU KNOW AND IT IS NOT LIKE WHY ARE YOU HERE, 25:49 IT'S PLEASE COME. 25:50 EXACTLY. 25:52 YES, THEY FEEL THE LOVE. 25:53 A BIG DIFFERENCE. 25:54 IT IS A BIG DIFFERENCE. 25:55 IT IS A SHIFT IN THE PARADIGM FOR HERE. 25:57 YES. 25:57 OH MY, SO MUCH TO PRAY ABOUT. 26:01 SO MUCH TO PRAY ABOUT. 26:02 IN 2025, BOY IT IS GOING TO ALMOST LIKE TOMORROW, I 26:06 THINK. 26:07 IT IS. 26:08 IT IS ALL MOVING TOO FAST. 26:09 YOU KNOW, I DON' T WANT TO BE SO UM, SO ADAMANT ABOUT 26:14 THAT THAT I FORGET ABOUT WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR US IN 26:16 THE PAST. 26:17 UH HUH. 26:18 YOU KNOW, I THINK WE MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE 26:19 REMEMBER WHAT HE HAS BEEN DOING FOR US IN THE PAST. 26:22 I'M EXCITED. 26:23 I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. 26:24 AND THE INCREASE THAT YOU ARE SEEING IN DONATIONS 26:26 TODAY NEEDS TO BE A MONSTER EVEREST CLIMB TO 26:31 BE ABLE TO REALLY IMPACT A COUNTRY LIKE INDIA. 26:33 YES. 26:34 OR OTHER PLACES THAT YOU ARE WORKING. 26:37 YES. 26:38 THE ADVENTURE HAS JUST BEGUN. 26:40 AMEN. 26:41 OH, BRENT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING WITH US 26:43 TODAY. 26:43 THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 26:44 THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. 26:46 SEE GOSPEL OUTREACH IS FAR MORE THAN JUST AN 26:49 ORGANIZATION IN A SMALL BUILDING IN COLLEGE PLACE, 26:51 WASHINGTON. 26:53 ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ADD YOUR AND ALL OF THE 26:56 SUPPORT YOU ARE GIVING. 26:57 IT IS A LOT OF US WORKING TOGETHER. 27:02 FOLLOWING JESUS AND SITTING ON THE FRONT ROW. 27:06 DOING WHATEVER HE NEEDS. 27:07 THANKS. 27:45 [CLOSING MUSIC]. |
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