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Series Code: AIM
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00:32 HI, I'M JULIE AND WELCOME TO "ADVENTURES IN
00:36 MISSIONS" HERE AT GOSPEL OUTREACH. 00:38 IT IS ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU HERE WITH US AND 00:40 ITS ALSO WONDERFUL TO HEAR FROM MANY OF YOU WHO ARE 00:43 WATCHING "ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS" AND I WANT TO 00:45 SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF GOSPEL OUTREACH FOR THAT. 00:47 WE ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRAYERS AND 00:50 YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR FINANCIAL SUPPORT AND WE 00:52 WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO VISIT US ON SOCIAL MEDIA, 00:55 ON FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM AND WE ALSO HAVE OUR 00:58 WEBSITE WHICH IS GOAIM.ORG AND YOU ARE PROBABLY 01:02 WONDERING WHAT DOES THE GOAIM STAND FOR? 01:05 WELL, IT'S GOSPEL OUTREACH ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS AND 01:08 WE HAVE OUR NEWSLETTER AS WELL, AND WE WANT TO 01:10 ENCOURAGE YOU ALSO TO VISIT OUR GOTV APP WHICH 01:14 IS A NEW PLATFORM. 01:15 SO, TODAY WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY OF VISITING 01:17 YET ANOTHER OF THE MANY COUNTRIES IN THE 10/40 01:20 WINDOW AND TODAY WE HAVE GARY WAGNER HERE WITH US 01:23 HERE ON OUR ZOOM SET. 01:25 GARY, WELCOME TO "ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS". 01:27 THANK YOU, IT IS NICE TO BE HERE. 01:30 ALWAYS GREAT TO VISIT WITH YOU GARY AND YOU HAVE A 01:34 VERY INTERESTING REGION. 01:35 AH, SHARE WITH THE VIEWERS THE COUNTRIES THAT YOU'RE 01:38 INVOLVED WITH FOR GOSPEL OUTREACH. 01:40 IT IS MY PRIVILEGE TO BE THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR FOR 01:44 VIETNAM AND CAMBODIA, THAILAND AND WEST 01:49 INDONESIA AND EAST INDONESIA, WEST PAPUA AND 01:51 THAT'S A LOT OF TERRITORY. 01:53 THAT'S A LOT OF TERRITORY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO 01:58 NEED TO KNOW JESUS AND AS YOU'VE SAID THAT UM, ONE 02:02 THING THAT CAME TO MY MIND, GARY ARE THE MANY 02:07 RELIGIONS AH, THAT ARE REPRESENTED IN ALL THOSE 02:10 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES. 02:11 AND WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING TODAY ABOUT UM, 02:14 THE FOURTH MOST POPULATED NATION WHICH WAS A LITTLE 02:18 SURPRISING TO ME SO LET'S DIVE RIGHT IN. 02:21 YES, INDONESIA IS THE IS AS YOU SAY, THE FOURTH 02:25 MOST POPULATED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. 02:27 THEY HAVE 279 MILLION PEOPLE AND OF THOSE 87 02:33 PERCENT ARE MUSLIMS. 02:34 AH, THERE IS ONLY LESS THAN 10 PERCENT ARE 02:38 CHRISTIANS AND AMONG THESE PEOPLE THERE ARE 64 02:42 UNREACHED PEOPLE GROUPS WHICH SAYS THAT WE'VE GOT 02:45 A LOT OF WORK TO DO. 02:46 WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. 02:48 OK, SO THEN THE COUNTRIES AHEAD OF INDONESIA WOULD 02:50 BE CHINA, OBVIOUSLY AND THEN INDIA, THE U.S. 02:53 AND THEN INDONESIA BEING THE FOURTH MOST POPULATED 02:57 COUNTRY. 02:58 YES, A LITTLE SURPRISING TO ME BUT YES, THAT IS 03:01 VERY INTERESTING. 03:02 I'VE BEEN TO INDONESIA IN FACT, I THINK THAT I WAS 03:05 LITERALLY, I DON'T KNOW, JUST INCHES FROM THE 03:09 EQUATOR, GARY AND IT WAS THE MOST -I HAVE NEVER 03:12 BEEN SO HOT IN MY LIFE AS I WAS WHEN A STUDENT 03:16 MISSIONARY AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF BEING IN 03:17 INDONESIA. 03:18 WONDERFUL PLACE, BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE. 03:20 I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF BEING IN MINADO AND 03:23 JAKARTA AND I LOVE TO SAY THIS UNDUNPUNGDAN. 03:26 I WAS ONLY AT THE AIRPORT THERE BUT FASCINATING 03:29 PLACE AND VERY INTERESTING PEOPLE. 03:33 I'VE FOUND IT TO BE THE SAME. 03:35 UH, EXTREMELY FASCINATING. 03:37 I LIVED IN CAMBODIA AND IN THAILAND BEFORE AND IT WAS 03:41 HOT THERE AND SO, I HAD AN IDEA WHAT TO BE READY FOR 03:46 HERE AND I WASN'T DISAPPOINTED. 03:49 IT WAS VERY HOT BUT IT WAS ONE OF THE COUNTRIES THAT 03:53 I VISITED EARLIER THIS YEAR AND GOT TO KNOW A LOT 03:59 MORE ABOUT MINISTRY TO MUSLIM PEOPLE. 04:02 YES, ABSOLUTELY. 04:04 SO, KIND OF GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF AH, YOU 04:07 KNOW, YOU'VE JUST SHARED-HEAVILY POPULATED, 04:10 MUSLIMS BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN REGARDS TO GOSPEL 04:13 OUTREACH WORKERS OF SHARING JESUS IN A MUSLIM 04:17 COUNTRY? 04:17 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? 04:18 WELL, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT THINK THAT YOU CAN'T SHARE 04:23 JESUS WITH THE MUSLIMS. 04:27 HOWEVER, YOU REALLY CAN. 04:30 WHAT I'VE LEARNED THROUGH THE LAST FEW YEARS AND 04:35 PARTICULARLY DURING THIS VISIT IS THAT SEVENTH DAY 04:39 ADVENTISTS AND MUSLIMS HAVE A LOT IN COMMON. 04:42 AND IF WE SIMPLY TREAT MUSLIM PEOPLE AS PEOPLE, 04:51 AH, AND TREAT THEM KINDLY THEY WILL RECIPROCATE. 04:56 IN FACT, OFTEN THEY WILL TREAT US KINDLY EVEN 04:59 BEFORE WE WOULD THEM KINDLY. 05:03 IT IS JUST -THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE A DEEP 05:10 LOVE FOR GOD AND THEY HAVE A DEEP FAITH THAT BUILDS 05:17 THEM TO BE VERY GOOD PEOPLE. 05:19 NOW, OF COURSE, AMONG THE MUSLIMS AS WELL AS AMONG 05:23 THE CHRISTIANS IN COUNTRIES LIKE THE UNITED 05:26 STATES THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CAN GET EXTREME FROM 05:31 ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER BUT AH, I HAVE TO SAY THAT I 05:37 DON'T BELIEVE I SAW ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE WHILE I WAS 05:40 IN INDONESIA FOR TWO WEEKS. 05:43 IT WAS JUST A WONDERFUL VISIT. 05:46 DEVOUT THEY UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY ARE SERVING GOD 05:50 THE WAY THAT THEY BELIEVE HOW TO DO THAT BUT AS FAR 05:54 AS GOING IN IT IS ILLEGAL ISN'T IT TO GO IN WITH THE 05:58 MINDSET THAT WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE SOMEONE'S 06:00 RELIGION. 06:02 THAT'S RIGHT. 06:04 WE WANT TO FOCUS RATHER THAN CHANGING A PERSON'S 06:12 RELIGION WE WANT TO FOCUS ON AH, LOOKING AT OUR 06:16 SIMILAR BELIEFS. 06:17 LOOKING AT THE THINGS THAT WE CAN, THAT WE CAN TALK 06:23 ABOUT AND SHARE TOGETHER AND DRAW CLOSER AS PEOPLE, 06:27 AS INDIVIDUALS. 06:29 PEOPLE WHO HAVE A DESIRE FOR ALL THE GOOD THINGS 06:33 THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE WORLD HAS A DESIRE FOR AND 06:38 WE DON'T HAVE TO BE AT ODDS WITH THEM AT ALL. 06:43 I FOUND THEM TO BE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. 06:46 AND GARY, THIS TAKES TIME HAVING LIVED IN BUDDHIST 06:51 COUNTRY, HAVING TRAVELED TO MANY BUDDHIST COUNTRIES 06:54 UM , AND MUSLIM COUNTRIES THIS TAKES TIME AND I 06:58 THINK OFTEN TIMES FROM OUR WESTERN CULTURE OF 07:02 CHRISTIANITY AND ALL OF THAT, IT'S LIKE WELL OF 07:04 COURSE, THIS MAKES SENSE AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY 07:07 BUT THERE ARE SO MANY RAMIFICATIONS TO SO MANY 07:11 OF THESE NEW THINGS FOR THESE PEOPLE BUT NOT ONLY 07:13 IS RELIGION A RELIGION BUT IT IS ALSO A CULTURE, IT'S 07:17 A WAY OF LIFE, IT'S HOW THEY LIVE, HOW THEY EAT 07:19 ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND MANY OF THESE PEOPLE 07:23 OBVIOUSLY, IT IS THEIR LIFE AND SO, OBVIOUSLY WE 07:27 WANT TO SHARE THE HOPE AND THE PEACE OF JESUS AND 07:30 THAT'S WHERE THE HOLY SPIRIT COMES IN AND WE'RE 07:32 WANTING THEM TO SEE THE JOY IN ALL OF THAT. 07:35 YES, AND GENERALLY THE MUSLIM PEOPLE ARE NOT 07:41 OFFENDED OR HURT BY SHARING JESUS WITH THEM 07:45 BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN JESUS JUST AS WE DO. 07:48 THEY BELIEVE SOME THINGS A BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN WE DO 07:51 BUT, AH THEY WOULD HIM ISA EL MASIH WHICH IS JESUS 07:59 THE MESSIAH AND IT IS VERY EASY TO TALK WITH THEM 08:03 ABOUT ISA EL MASIH AND SHARE THE THINGS THAT HE 08:07 DID, THE THINGS THAT HE SAID AND SHARE THE FACT 08:11 THAT HE IS GOING TO COME BACK AGAIN BEFORE THE END 08:15 OF TIME AND FOR SEVENTH DAY ADVENTISTS TO BE ABLE 08:21 TO TALK WITH MUSLIM PEOPLE IT'S VERY EASY BECAUSE 08:26 THERE ARE SO MANY OF OUR BELIEFS THAT ARE VERY 08:31 SIMILAR TO WHAT THE MUSLIMS BELIEVE FROM THEIR 08:36 QURAN. 08:37 SO, WHAT WAS ONE OF THINGS THAT YOU PARTICIPATED IN, 08:39 GARY, ON YOUR TRIP TO INDONESIA? 08:41 I WAS PRIVILEGED TO BE ABLE TO VISIT WITH SOME OF 08:51 OUR GOSPEL OUTREACH VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE BEEN 08:57 WORKING FOR QUITE A LONG TIME TO DEVELOP TRUST 09:01 BUILDING ACTIVITIES. 09:02 TIMES WHEN YOU GET TOGETHER WITH PEOPLE WHO 09:07 BELIEVE SOME THINGS DIFFERENT THAN YOU DO AND 09:12 IT IS NOT THAT YOU AVOID TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS 09:16 THAT ARE DIFFERENT BETWEEN YOU BUT IT IS JUST THAT 09:20 YOU TALK ABOUT THEM IN A WAY THAT SHOWS THAT YOU 09:22 HAVE RESPECT FOR THEM, THAT YOU WOULD WANT THEM 09:26 TO HAVE FOR YOU. 09:27 AND SO, SOME OF OUR GOSPEL OUTREACH VOLUNTEERS IN 09:30 INDONESIA FOR QUITE SOME TIME HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING 09:32 THIS TRUST BUILDING RETREATS AND TRUST 09:33 BUILDING ACTIVITIES AND ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT 09:34 YOU DO TO BUILD TRUST IS JUST TO SIT DOWN TOGETHER 09:36 AND EAT. 09:37 AND TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT YOU LIKE AND DON'T 09:38 LIKE. 09:38 TALK ABOUT THE SCRIPTURES. 09:39 IN FACT, THE PICTURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS 09:40 SITTING DOWN IN THE HOME OF A GOSPEL OUTREACH 09:42 VOLUNTEER AND HIS WIFE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY OPENED UP 09:43 THEIR HOME TO OTHER PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY WHEN 09:44 THEY HAD DIFFICULT TIMES. 09:45 STUDENTS WHO NEEDED A PLACE TO STAY WHILE THEY 10:00 WERE AT THE UNIVERSITY. 10:07 A YOUNG MAN WHO WAS ON THE OUTS WITH HIS FATHER 10:27 COULDN'T GO HOME AND JUST STAYED HERE WITH ANPAN AND 10:33 HIS WIFE FOR TWO YEARS. 10:35 AND THIS ENDED UP BUILDING GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH 10:39 NOT JUST THE YOUNG MAN WHO STAYED BUT ALSO AFTER THE 10:44 FAMILY WAS JOINED TOGETHER AGAIN, UH HAVING BUILT 10:48 GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH THAT FAMILY TOO, SO, 10:56 SITTING AND EATING TOGETHER AND TALKING 10:58 TOGETHER IS A WONDERFUL THING AND SO THIS LED TO 11:03 SOMETHING ELSE THAT I WAS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN. 11:07 WE HAD WHAT'S CALLED A TRUST BUILDING RETREAT AND 11:16 AT THIS TRUST BUILDING RETREAT WE HAD- I COUNTED 11:19 31 PEOPLE. 11:20 HALF WERE CHRISTIANS AND NOT ALL WERE SEVENTH DAY 11:24 ADVENTISTS, MOST WERE. 11:27 THE OTHER HALF WERE MUSLIMS AND IT'S EASY TO 11:31 SEE WHO WAS WHO AT LEAST FOR THE MEN, FOR THE 11:36 WOMEN, THE WOMEN, CAN TELL WHICH ONES ARE MUSLIMS AND 11:40 WHICH ONES AREN'T BUT AH, I KIND OF STUCK OUT IN THE 11:46 GROUP. 11:47 IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT I WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN 11:50 THE REST OF THEM BUT THEY ACCEPTED ME AS JUST A 11:55 MEMBER OF THAT EXERCISE AND WE SPENT THREE DAYS, 12:01 THREE NIGHTS TOGETHER DOING ACTIVITIES THAT 12:06 HELPED US TO UNDERSTAND THOSE FROM THE OTHER 12:10 RELIGIOUS BACKGROUND. 12:13 THESE ARE THE LEADERS ON THE LEFT, YOU SEE THE 12:17 MUSLIM LEADERS OF THIS MOVEMENT. 12:20 ON THE RIGHT YOU SEE THE ADVENTIST LEADERS OF THIS 12:23 MOVEMENT AND THEY HAVE THESE TRUST BUILDING AH, 12:28 RETREATS ON A REGULAR BASIS. 12:30 I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO GET TO ANOTHER ONE WHEN I GO 12:32 BACK AGAIN NEXT YEAR. 12:34 BUT THERE WAS NOTHING THAT HAPPENED THERE THAT AH, 12:40 WAS FRIGHTENING. 12:41 NOTHING THAT WAS DANGEROUS. 12:44 WHAT WE DID HAVE WAS SOMETHING WE'LL TALK ABOUT 12:50 IT IN JUST A LITTLE BIT. 12:52 WONDERFUL. 12:53 WELL, GARY THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND WE WANT TO 12:55 SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE WITH US ON 12:57 "ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS". 12:59 ISN'T IT EXCITING, BROTHERS AND SISTERS TO 13:01 LEARN ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN OTHER 13:03 COUNTRIES AND SPECIFICALLY HEAR ABOUT INDONESIA? 13:05 AND SO, WE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO BE 13:08 INVOLVED WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH AND WE THANK YOU. 13:11 EARTH, VAST, BEAUTIFUL BUT TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AND YOU 13:21 CAN SEE THE PAIN OF A WORLD ON A COLLISION 13:24 COURSE WITH ITS OWN GREED. 13:27 HUMANITY NEED LOVE. 13:29 WE NEED HOPE. 13:32 WE NEED A SAVIOR. 13:36 MORE THAN ONE THIRD OF THE WORLDS SEVEN BILLION 13:38 PEOPLE STILLNEED TO HEAR ABOUT GOD'S LOVE AND HIS 13:42 PLAN TO SAVE US. 13:44 ONE THIRD IN SUCH A BIG WORLD, IT'S EASY TO FEEL 13:50 SMALL BUT YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 13:54 PARTNER WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH TO FUND BIBLE 13:57 WORKES WHO ARE MISSIONARIES IN THEIR OWN 13:59 VILLAGES, TOWNS AND CITIES. 14:02 THEY SHARE THE LIFE CHANGING LOVE IN THE STORY 14:09 OF JESUS CHRIST. 14:11 THANK YOU FOR GIVING. 14:14 TOGETHER WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE SO THAT ALL THE 14:22 WORLD MAY KNOW JESUS. 14:25 AND WELCOME BACK. 14:26 WE ARE TRAVELING TO INDONESIA HERE WITH GARY 14:28 WAGNER WHO IS THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR FOR INDONESIA AND 14:31 HE'S BEEN SHARING WITH US ABOUT A RETREAT BETWEEN 14:35 MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS AND IT WAS A THREE DAY EVENT 14:38 AND GARY WAS ABLE TO ATTEND AND GARY I REMEMBER 14:40 KEITH HEINRICH WHO FORMERLY WAS IN THE 14:43 DIRECTOR ROLE THAT YOU ARE IN NOW AND I REMEMBER HIM 14:47 SHARING ABOUT A PREVIOUS SEMINAR LIKE THIS, A 14:49 RETREAT, AND A VERY INFORMATIVE, VERY KIND OF, 14:52 YOU KNOW, EDUCATIONAL AND HE HAD MANY GREAT THINGS 14:55 TO SAY ABOUT IT AS YOU DO HERE TODAY. 14:57 YES, I APPRECIATE KEITH'S LEADERSHIP IN THIS AREA UH 15:01 BECAUSE HE I THINK IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO AH, 15:10 ESTABLISHED THE VERY WORK THAT I'M BECOMING A SMALL 15:17 PART IN NOW. 15:19 WHAT IT ALSO MADE ME SMILE IS HAVING LIVED AND 15:22 TRAVELED IN THE 10/40 WINDOW IN THE PICTURE THAT 15:25 YOU HAD WITH THE GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKER, A BOX OF 15:28 KLEENEX, A BOTTLE OF WATER AND BANANAS AND THERE ARE 15:31 - AND BIBLES, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS 15:34 THAT CAN BE HAD OVER THOSE THINGS SO KIND OF MADE ME 15:38 SMILE THERE IN THE PICTURES. 15:39 SO, UM THIS RETREAT THOUGH GARY, IT WAS A VERY WHAT? 15:45 EDUCATIONAL TIME AND WHAT ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT 15:48 YOU FOLKS DISCUSSED THERE? 15:51 THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE DID AT THE 15:53 RETREAT. 15:54 ONE OF THEM WAS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO BUILD TRUST 15:58 YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE DIFFICULT TOPICS. 16:01 SO, WE HAD AN EXERCISE WHERE WE DIVIDED AH, THE 16:08 31 PEOPLE IN THE GROUP INTO FOUR SMALLER GROUPS 16:11 AND INITIALLY, THERE WERE TWO GROUPS OF MUSLIMS AND 16:15 TWO GROUPS OF CHRISTIANS AND WE WOULD TALK IN OUR 16:19 GROUP AH, THE MUSLIMS WOULD TALK ABOUT THE 16:24 INCIDENTS THAT THEY KNEW ABOUT WHERE THE CHRISTIANS 16:27 HAD DONE THINGS AH, TO HARM THE MUSLIMS AND OF 16:32 COURSE, THE CHRISTIANS WOULD WRITE THE THINGS 16:34 THAT THEY KNEW ABOUT THAT THE MUSLIMS HAD DONE TO 16:38 HARM THE CHRISTIANS. 16:39 THEN AFTER WE DID THAT, AH, THE PURPOSE OF COURSE, 16:44 WASN'T TO BUILD ANGER,NO, WHICH WE COULD HAVE DONE 16:50 BUT TO THEN SHARE WE DIVIDED UP THE GROUPS AND 16:56 THEN PUT IN EACH OF THE FOUR GROUPS HALF MUSLIMS 17:03 AND HALF CHRISTIANS SO THEN THE FORMERLY 17:07 CHRISTIAN GROUPS WOULD TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT 17:11 THEY HAD WRITTEN DOWN THAT THE MUSLIMS HAD DONE, THAT 17:13 SOME MUSLIMS I'D HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE IT 17:15 CERTAINLY WAS ALL MUSLIMS BUT , SURE, BUT MUSLIMS 17:19 HAD DONE AH TO HURT CHRISTIANS AND THEN GET AN 17:29 OPPORTUNITY FOR THE MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS 17:32 THEN IN THAT GROUP TO DISCUSS THOSE THINGS. 17:35 IT JUST HAPPENED THAT SOME OF THE UH, YOUNG MEN IN 17:42 THE GROUP THAT I WAS IN HAD BEEN IN A AH, 17:49 PATHFINDER EVENT IN A MAJOR CITY THERE IN 17:55 INDONESIA AND THAT EVENT WAS ATTACKED BY SOME 17:58 MUSLIMS WITH MACHETES AND SO THE MUSLIMS WHO WERE IN 18:06 THAT GROUP THEN WERE SHOCKED AND THEY WERE HURT 18:11 THAT THIS KIND OF THING WOULD HAPPEN ESPECIALLY TO 18:15 PEOPLE WHO HAD NOW BECOME THEIR FRIENDS. 18:18 SO, THE MUSLIMS WERE ALSO DOING THE SAME THING 18:21 TELLING THE CHRISTIANS WHO HAD JOINED THEIR GROUP THE 18:25 THINGS THE CHRISTIANS HAD DONE SO THIS GAVE AN 18:29 OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THESE ISSUES AND TO 18:33 DISCUSS THE THINGS THAT HAD HAPPENED AND FOR 18:37 APOLOGIES TO BE MADE ALTHOUGH THE PEOPLE WHO 18:40 WERE THERE HADN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN THEM BUT TO 18:44 BUILD A SENSE OF AH, OF JOINT APPRECIATION FOR THE 18:51 FACT THAT THE OTHER SIDE REALLY DID HAVE SOME 18:54 THINGS THAT WERE CONCERNING TO THEM BUT BY 18:57 BRINGING THEM INTO THE OPEN THEN THEY COULD BE 19:03 DISCUSSED AND ACTUALLY DISMISSED BECAUSE 19:07 EVERYBODY IN THE GROUP HAD BECOME FRIENDS. 19:12 ANOTHER ACTIVITY THAT WE DID WAS TO BE IN THOSE 19:17 SMALL GROUPS AGAIN AND HAVE THE CHRISTIANS WRITE 19:21 WHAT IS IT THAT WE'D LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT THE MUSLIM 19:25 FAITH, MUSLIM BELIEFS AND WHAT IS IT THAT WE'D LIKE 19:29 TO BE ABLE TO TELL THEM AH, ABOUT THE WAY WE FEEL 19:33 ABOUT THEIR FAITH AND THE MUSLIMS WERE DOING THE 19:38 SAME THING ABOUT CHRISTIAN BELIEFS. 19:41 SO, THEN OF COURSE, AFTER THAT WAS DONE THEN THE 19:45 GROUPS WERE CHANGED AGAIN AND EVERYBODY HAD AN 19:49 OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THOSE THINGS THAT THEY WOULD 19:54 LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT FROM THE OTHER BELIEF SYSTEM 19:58 AND ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY BELIEVED TO 20:02 OTHER SIDE. 20:03 IT WAS A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE. 20:06 A WONDERFUL AH, DISCUSSION GOING BACK AND FORTH AND 20:11 IT GOT TO THE PLACE WHERE BOTH SIDES WERE MORE FREE 20:18 TO ACTUALLY ASK MORE QUESTIONS AND PROBING 20:23 QUESTIONS AND EVEN DIFFICULT QUESTIONS AND IT 20:27 NEVER ONCE GOT TO THE PLACE WHERE THERE WAS 20:31 ANTAGONISM SO, IT WAS A FASCINATING TIME TO BE 20:34 ABLE TO BE TOGETHER THEN WE HAD EVENTS THAT JUST 20:39 ANY OTHER GROUP ON A SATURDAY NIGHT. 20:43 NOW WE MET ALL DAY FRIDAY WHICH WAS THE MUSLIMS HOLY 20:47 DAY, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT, AND THEN WE ALSO 20:53 MET ON SABBATH WHICH IS THE SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST 20:58 HOLY DAY AH, AND BY DOING THAT WE WERE HONORING THE 21:04 PEOPLE WHO WE WERE WITH UH BUT WE WERE NOT EXPECTED 21:07 IN ANYWAY TO GIVE UP ANY OF OUR OWN PERSONAL 21:10 BELIEFS NOR WERE THEY. 21:11 SO, THAT WAS A BIG THING. 21:13 BUT ON FRIDAY NIGHT WE HAD WHAT ADVENTISTS OFTEN DO 21:19 ON A RETREAT AND THAT IS DIVIDE INTO GROUPS AND 21:25 EVERYBODY HAVE A TALENT SHOW. 21:28 YOU DID THAT ON SATURDAY NIGHT? 21:32 SATURDAY NIGHT, YES. 21:33 UH HUH. 21:35 MY GROUP CAME TO ME AND SAID, WE'RE GOING TO SING 21:38 A SONG. 21:39 I SAID, REALLY THAT'S INTERESTING. 21:41 WHAT SONG ARE WE GOING TO SING? 21:43 BECAUSE IT WAS OBVIOUS IF YOU SAW THE PICTURES THAT 21:49 THERE WAS A LOT OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 21:54 GENERATIONS THERE OF ALL OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE 21:57 GROUP AND THEN ME. 21:58 SO, WE FINALLY CAME TOGETHER ON A JOHN DENVER 22:02 SONG AH, THAT WAS AH, "COUNTRY ROADS". 22:07 THERE YOU GO. 22:10 AND AS WE WERE PRACTICING THEY NOTICED THAT THERE 22:15 WAS A PHRASE IN THE SONG THAT SAID THAT THE TREES 22:20 WERE OLDER THAN THE HILLS AND SUDDENLY THEY STOPPED 22:24 AND SAID, OH, YOU'RE OLDER THAN THE HILLS. 22:29 WE SHOULD HAVE YOU STAND AND DO SOMETHING VERY 22:35 INTERESTING AT THAT TIME AND SO, WE DID. 22:40 THEY ALL POINTED TO ME DURING THAT PART OF THE 22:45 SONG AND THEN THERE IS A PICTURE OF THAT YOU'LL SEE 22:47 AND AFTER THAT EVERYTIME THERE WAS A BREAK, THE MC 22:52 OF THE EVENT WOULD PLAY THE SONG "COUNTRY ROADS" 23:00 SO IT WAS QUITE AN INTERESTING THING. 23:06 KIND OF YOUR LITTLE THEME THERE. 23:10 WE HAD A WONDERFUL TIME AND I WAS JUST BLEST TO BE 23:16 ABLE TO LEARN SO MUCH ABOUT THE MUSLIM FAITH AND 23:21 BECOME AN ACCEPTED PERSON IN THIS GROUP OF YOUNG 23:26 ADULTS. 23:27 WELL, I THINK THAT'S FABULOUS AND THE QUESTION 23:30 IS DID YOU ALL PRAY TOGETHER? 23:32 YES, WE DID. 23:33 YES, AND WHEN WE PRAY WE, WE PRAY TO GOD BUT AT THE 23:40 END OF IT WE PRAY AND THEN IN THE NAME OF ISA EL 23:45 MASIH WHICH WE CERTAINLY BELIEVE IN. 23:48 WE BELIEVE JESUS IS THE MESSIAH AND THEY WERE NOT 23:52 OFFENDED AT ALL AND WHEN THEY PRAYED, THEY PRAYED 23:57 WHATEVER, ALLAH, THEY DO TO ALLAH CERTAINLY. 24:02 AH, BUT THEY WERE PRAYING IN INDONESIAN SO I 24:08 HONESTLY, COULDN'T TELL YOU WHAT THE CLOSE OF THE 24:12 PRAYER WAS BUT THAT'S OK. 24:16 YES, GOD UNDERSTANDS. 24:18 GOD UNDERSTANDS. 24:19 WELL, GARY THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT WITH US AND 24:21 AS YOU ARE THEN -YOU SHARED THAT WITH US BUT 24:24 THEN YOU ARE ALSO WORKING WITH THE UNIONS THERE IN 24:28 INDONESIA AND IF INDONESIA IS THE FOURTH LARGEST 24:32 POPULATED COUNTRY IN OUR WORLD, THAT MEANS THAT WE 24:36 NEED MORE GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS, CORRECT? 24:39 YES, AND IT'S PROVEN A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO BE 24:43 ABLE TO MAKE THE CONTACTS WITH THE LEADERSHIP IN THE 24:46 TWO UNIONS AND JUST TO KIND OF TELL THIS QUICKLY, 24:51 ONE OF THE PEOPLE I MET JUST NOT KNOWING WHAT ROLE 24:58 THIS WAS GOING TO PLAY WAS A PASTOR IN MAKASSAR AND 25:02 HE -I TOLD HIM WHAT GOSPEL OUTREACH DOES AND HE 25:08 INVITED ME TO SPEAK TO HIS CONFERENCE PRESIDENT BUT 25:13 HE WASN'T AROUND SO I WASN'T ABLE TO. 25:17 BUT THEN WHEN I CAME BACK HOME, AH I WAS HOME FOR 25:24 ABOUT TEN HOURS AND THEN DROVE TO AH ST. LOUIS FOR 25:30 THE GENERAL CONFERENCE SESSION, AND THIS PASTOR'S 25:34 CONFERENCE PRESIDENT FOUND ME THERE AND WE DISCUSSED 25:40 WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE AND THEN HE INTRODUCED ME TO 25:43 THE UNION PRESIDENT WHO WAS ALSO ATTENDING THERE 25:46 AND THROUGH THOSE DISCUSSIONS OF THE WAY GOD 25:50 ORGANIZED THESE MEETINGS, THESE MAYBE HAPPENSTANCE 25:55 MEETINGS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO AH, OPEN UP THE WORK OF 26:02 GOSPEL OUTREACH IN INDONESIA INTO 21 26:05 DIFFERENT CONFERENCES AND MISSIONS WHERE WE WILL BE 26:10 TRYING OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS TO PUT FIVE TEAMS OF 26:16 TWO GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS VOLUNTEERS INTO 26:19 EACH CONFERENCE OR MISSION TO BEGIN WITH AND BEGIN 26:24 SPREADING THIS WONDERFUL MESSAGE THROUGHOUT 26:27 INDONESIA IN THIS WAY AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE 26:32 NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO OURSELVES BUT GOD HAD IT 26:36 ALL WORKED OUT TO BE ABLE TO MEET WITH ALL THE RIGHT 26:40 PEOPLE. 26:41 GOD DOES. 26:42 GOD DOES. 26:43 SO, I'M HEARING FROM YOU THAT AH, WE NEED TO HAVE 26:47 SOME MORE GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS IN THIS AREA OF 26:50 THE WORLD THAT IS SO HEAVILY POPULATED AND THAT 26:53 COMES FROM OUR VIEWERS AND THE SUPPORTERS OF GOSPEL 26:56 OUTREACH. 26:57 SO, GARY THANK YOU FOR SHARING WITH US AND OUR 26:59 GREETINGS TO THE GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS THERE AND 27:01 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP THERE AND FOR 27:04 SHARING WITH US HERE TODAY. 27:05 IT IS MY PLEASURE AND I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO THE 27:08 HELP FROM OUR VIEWERS AND OUR SUPPORTERS TO BE ABLE 27:12 TO GO FROM HAVING SIX GOSPEL OUTREACH VOLUNTEERS 27:16 IN INDONESIA TO HAVING 210. 27:19 WELL, THANK YOU GARY AND YOU HAVE HEARD THE NEED 27:23 AND YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE GREAT THINGS THAT ARE 27:25 HAPPENING IN INDONESIA AND WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU 27:28 SO MUCH. 27:29 ON BEHALF OF GOSPEL OUTREACH AND "ADVENTURES 27:31 IN MISSIONS" I'M JULIE AND MAY THE LORD BLESS YOU 27:33 TODAY. 27:34 [CLOSING MUSIC]. |
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