Participants: Curtis & Paula Eakins
Series Code: AL
Program Code: AL00186A
00:01 It has been estimated that over 215,000 women
00:06 will come down with breast cancer, that's 00:08 American women and that's over a 40,000 00:11 deaths each year. Today's program is entitled 00:16 'Beating Breast Cancer'. We are gonna talk about 00:19 foods, risk factors. We are gonna talk about 00:22 those things that we need to do as 00:24 women to take care of ourselves. Stay by. 00:56 Hi, welcome to Abundant Living. 00:57 This is Curtis Eakins, your co-host and I like to 01:00 introduce my beautiful bride, Paula Eakins. 01:04 How are you doing today, honey? 01:05 I am wonderful, also co-host. Co-host, yes, okay. 01:08 Looking we might good today. Thank you very much. 01:11 You are welcome very much. I don't mind giving 01:13 compliments to you and you can give 01:14 something to me as well. You can do at this time if you like. 01:18 Okay. Okay, anyway. 01:21 We are gonna continue with this program. 01:23 We are talking about beating breast cancer. 01:25 This is a part of our women's health series. 01:28 So, I want you to stay back and we are gonna 01:30 be talking about some women's issues and so 01:33 it's coming on within next few weeks or so. 01:35 Yeah, yeah. Now you made comment 01:38 in the tease about women, 215,000 women that are 01:42 diagnosed with breast cancer and one of our camera 01:45 crew said this morning, of course, by the way 01:48 real men wear pink. Absolutely. Absolutely. 01:53 Absolutely. So, surely, because you 01:55 just wondering, yes. Pink ties. Pink tie and, 01:58 But, in fact I love to see men in when they wear 02:00 the black suit with a pink shirt and a pink tie. 02:04 Okay, now, now the pink shirt and a pink tie 02:06 little bit too much. Maybe a white shirt with 02:08 a pink tie, a kind of. I'm just talking about 02:11 what women like that's all. Oh, okay. Well then that 02:14 may be a hint to me. So, anyway, we are talking 02:16 about women beating breast cancer, but also if 02:19 we listen to the camera crew, men also have 02:22 breast cancer as well. Absolutely. 02:24 2000 men per year in United States get breast cancer. 02:28 So, again we are not just talking about women, 02:30 although 2000 as compared to 215,000 there is a 02:35 great disparity, but again men are included 02:39 as far as breast cancer is concerned. 02:41 Absolutely. Absolutely, you know, it has been 02:42 estimated that's 1 in 8 women, yes, within that woman's 02:47 lifetime could actually become a candidate 02:49 for the breast cancer. And I think, you know, 02:51 and really those stats are becoming less and less 02:55 favorable because back in 1970s it was 1 in 11, 03:00 in 1980s it was 1 in 10, and in 1990s 1 in 9, 03:07 year 20001 in 8 and we are at the brink of 1 in 7. 03:13 So, the numbers are not getting better maybe 03:17 three and half minutes. One of the things very 03:18 good and that is that has been estimated that 03:21 90 per cent of the breast cancers that they are caught 03:24 and/or they have a lifespan, where a woman might get 03:26 breast cancer and let's say within five year of survival 03:29 rate there is 90 percent of an opportunity that she 03:33 will not have it again, she can get through that 03:36 and so that's also very important, so we are 03:38 gonna be talking about early detection how important 03:39 it is, but what exactly then is breast cancer. 03:42 Well, well, breast cancer is not. 03:44 Now, let me just make the statement "breast cancer 03:48 does not contain within the breast". 03:50 That's right. That's right. Or what we call 03:52 the breast mound. Breast cancer can be 03:55 all way up to the clavicle, to the mid of the chest, 04:00 under the under arm and below the breast. 04:03 So, that is included in the whole breast tissue. 04:07 So, with that in mind, but again breast cancer 04:09 can be or is abnormal cells that grow out of 04:15 control and produce other abnormal cells. 04:19 And now those cells could be in a lobular or 04:22 could be in the duct, Right, right. 04:24 the milk duct, and called that Ductal Carcinoma 04:27 by 80 percent of that. There is some other 04:30 breast cancer that may not even have a lump at all. 04:33 Inflammatory breast cancer, where there is usually 04:36 no lump or just redness, all these things constitute 04:40 breast cancer and can be very debilitating as well, 04:44 but early detection is the key, one of the keys in 04:47 controlling this and lowering that mortality rate. 04:50 Well, let's look at some of the. 04:52 Now, I have actually some question about 04:53 some steps now about, you are missing some 04:56 steps already, but lets expand on that a little bit. 04:58 Well, there is quite a few risk factors 05:01 that can be involved. One of those risk factors 05:03 of course can be age. As we maturing age as women 05:08 of course the opportunity for something like 05:10 breast cancer is there, a personal history, 05:14 if a woman has breast cancer and/or man gets breast cancer. 05:19 There is a possibility that it could also reoccur, 05:22 okay, because you have already had it onetime 05:24 and that has to do of course with minute size, 05:27 small size that, that cancer cell could 05:30 very well move from the breast area even after 05:33 everything is going on and you can move to either major 05:36 four areas, the bone, the brain, 05:38 the liver and the lung. If it moves there 05:41 of course it metastasizes, and so that's what I mean 05:43 when I say that personal history, where you have 05:45 to keep be and checked up on make sure you are okay. 05:47 And of course family history, it could be your grandmother, 05:50 it's good to know your history of your family members, 05:53 your grandmother, great grandmother, 05:55 your mom, your sister, a daughter, any of those 05:59 individuals if they have had cancer even at a younger 06:02 age then the opportunity is there once again. 06:05 And then of course exposure to estrogen whether it would 06:08 be when you are very, very young. 06:10 Extra amounts of estrogen somehow the exposure and 06:13 also of course through menopause, when a 06:15 women going through menopause at that time as well. 06:19 The exposure to extra amounts of estrogen 06:22 might be coming from hormonal replacement therapy 06:24 something like that also puts her at risk for 06:27 breast cancer as well. Okay, now you missing 06:30 about that hormone replacement therapy, 06:32 HRT and of course now you have a whole presentation 06:36 on this breast cancer as well. Yes, yes. 06:39 But with HRT, there was a large study done. 06:43 I think it was back in early 2002 where there are lot of 06:47 women taken HRT, but realized that it was more 06:50 detrimental because they have more cancers, more 06:53 strokes and heart attacks. They had to stop that 06:56 study of the HRT, which is estrogen and progesterone 07:00 right after that breast cancer diagnosis dropped 07:04 immediately 50 percent the following year. 07:09 So, there is a close connection between HRT 07:12 and breast cancer. So we are going to 07:13 talking about menopause later on our future 07:17 programs as well so we get more into that. 07:19 That really brought us lot of scare, yes it is, more 07:21 heavy amount of scare when that testing was done it 07:24 was a five year test they had to stop it abruptly. 07:26 Yes. And lot of women who 07:28 are already on a patch or they were already doing 07:30 different medications and they were trying to figure 07:32 out what to do and believe it or not because of that, 07:35 because of the scare and because of the huge 07:38 amount of women, American women they 07:39 were using those different modalities then lot of 07:43 things have changed since then and lot of them have 07:45 looked more and more natural, we are gonna talk about 07:47 that as well. But I mentioned mother, grandmother and 07:50 I mentioned sister and daughter there is always 07:52 a genetic pre-disposure. Talk to us little bit about 07:56 genetics, yes, that relates to breast cancer. 07:59 Genetics does play a part in breast cancer 08:01 not as much as most people would think, alright. 08:05 They used to say that there are two genes in particular 08:08 that most people have heard of called it breast cancer 08:11 gene 1, breast cancer gene 2, for short BRCA1, BRCA2. 08:19 These are the two genes that are discovered as far as 08:23 genetic is concerned when it deals with breast cancer. 08:26 And with those two genes about 5 to 10 percent of the 08:31 people have some type of mutation in either one of 08:34 those two genes 5 to 10 percent ifs you seen the 08:38 literature. Now most people fall into the 5 percentile, 08:43 the 10 percent of those of the Jewish community, 08:47 Ashkenazi Jewish community, the others falls into the 08:51 5 percentile, so in essence 95 percent of the people 08:56 diagnosed with breast cancer is not due to the 08:59 breast cancer G1 or 2, 95 percent. 09:02 But then you maybe fall into that 5 percentile. 09:06 So, therefore, and just like the Bible says 09:09 visiting the iniquity upon on the children of the 09:11 third and fourth generations. Thereby, what my wife 09:16 was talking about look into your family history 09:18 down through at least three generations and 09:22 of course go to a genetic counselor and they will 09:24 also give some history as far as that is concerned to, 09:27 so again need to be mindful and know your family history 09:31 where you maybe have that mutation either in 09:34 one of those two genes. Now, I want to ask you a 09:37 question about the screening mammograms and the ages 09:41 and so let's talk about that for a moment. 09:43 You know, we say never to early to start really 09:46 checking and making sure is a mater of fact one of 09:48 things that we talk about as we relate to breast cancer 09:51 is that as early as the 20s. You know when a young 09:55 lady gets into her 20s, is the time then to start doing 09:58 we call it self breast exams and that's why, that's 10:01 because the more we do the self breast exams the 10:04 more we can notice any additional lumps or any 10:07 masses or anything that might show up way before it's time. 10:11 So, the self breast exam we say in the 20s or early 20s 10:14 and then of course if you have family members that 10:16 have been diagnosed with breast cancer, as I said 10:18 before that's even more caution. 10:20 One of ways to the next group is of course that 10:23 age of 20 to 39 years old. And once you get in that 10:26 age category, you can also have the clinical exams done. 10:29 Now, clinical exams means that when you go to 10:32 your doctor, a health care professional who will 10:34 actually do that for you the clinical exams. 10:36 You got the breast and self breast exam, you 10:38 have the clinical exam and then of course in the 10:41 40s and up then we have the mammograms and 10:43 mammography is done. Okay. 10:45 And that's every year, that's very important as well. 10:48 Although, believe it or not even with the mammograms 10:51 a lot of women do find their cancers on their own. 10:54 They actually discovered that because they have 10:56 been once again check in the breast and seeing 10:58 what's going on. It is so critical because 11:00 once again a lot of the cancers can be prevented 11:04 as we do this early detection as we are really 11:07 trying to push early detection. 11:09 Okay, I want a dovetail on that too because again 11:13 lot of people in United States do not have insurance 11:15 or may not have adequate insurance. 11:17 True. And so the mammograms 11:19 are very important, but once you to get a paper 11:23 or pen and write this down because there is a national 11:26 mammography day. Right, that's right. 11:28 The third Friday in October and it's sponsored by the 11:32 National Cancer Institute and this 1800 number to 11:36 contact any facility in your area to have either free 11:41 mammogram or a reduced rate of receiving 11:45 your mammogram. It's 1800-4, that's the 11:49 number four in the word cancer, again 1800-4 11:54 cancer, free or reduced rate for mammogram, so I just 11:58 want to make sure of people be aware of that. 12:00 Lot's of money put aside by the breast cancer 12:03 groups out there to make sure that women are 12:05 taking care of more and more each year because 12:08 of the numbers, the estimated numbers of 12:10 women being diagnosed with breast cancer. 12:12 So, you want to make sure you check that date out, 12:14 I meet a lot of women and they tell me they don't 12:16 have the funds or the money to go and see the 12:18 doctors, but like Curtis said, there are lots of free 12:21 programs out there or sliding scale programs 12:23 out there, but by all means the devastation of having 12:27 something like breast cancer certainly is something 12:30 you don't want and to have that available to us is 12:32 absolutely fantastic. Yes, that's true. 12:34 Now speaking on the same subject when you 12:35 talk about mammograms, one of things that, I hear 12:38 other sisters say to me is that they are concerned 12:41 about the exposure of radiation. 12:42 Okay. That they don't want to do 12:44 mammograms at all as they moving their ages 12:46 because they heard that the exposure can cause cancer. 12:49 So, let's address that along with versus we 12:53 have got the digital exam and versus the film exam, 12:56 can you talk about that. Yeah, radiation, of course 12:58 lot of women well, there is radiation. 13:00 Radiation is cancer causing agent in a cell, 13:05 but the amount of radiation that is emitted to the breast. 13:09 In the medical profession, we say that what is the 13:12 benefit to risk ratio in other words there are a lot of things 13:18 that may cause a risk, but the benefits 13:21 out weigh the risk. And in our estimation that 13:25 the little radiation that is emitted to the breasts, 13:29 the benefits simply we believe out way the risk. 13:33 So, again we advocate mammograms, but the 13:37 main thing about that, knowing that is film mammography, 13:44 there is no test that is perfect, let me just say that. 13:47 Film mammography does miss a lot of breast cancers, 13:50 but it tends to miss breast cancers where breasts are 13:53 either dense or young therefore you miss lot of the 13:58 15 percent. However, there is a new thing, not 14:01 fairly new now, but breasts that are young or more 14:05 dense is better to have a digital mammography. 14:11 Therefore and the age limit, the cut of age limit is 50 14:15 and below, so if you are 50 and below have dense breasts 14:18 there will be more advantages to have a digital mammography 14:24 as opposed to a film mammography. 14:27 Alright, so you want to keep that in mind and lot 14:29 of facilities are now having digital mammograms 14:33 available as well, so just wanted to be mind for that. 14:37 Let's move into the area Curtis that, really talks about 14:40 the foods that can protect us against breast cancer. 14:43 Okay, I am gonna share with the audience at this time 14:45 on the screen a power statement. 14:47 Let's look at it this time. Here it is folks. 14:50 "Nutrigenomics is the study of how the foods 14:54 we eat interact with our genes to influence our 15:00 health." This has come from the American Institute 15:02 of Cancer Research. Foods we eat, so you 15:05 know, Hippocrates said let food be the 15:07 medicine and therefore medicine our food. 15:10 So, there are some foods that can help us to protect us 15:12 from breast cancer, and list some of those foods 15:15 quickly, honey. We talk about that whole 15:16 cruciferous group, we talk about that before as 15:18 the cabbage family, okay, that's the cabbage 15:19 and collards and Brussels sprouts, and the onions 15:23 and the garlic and the leaves all of these are 15:26 part of that cruciferous group alright and so we 15:28 want to make sure that we have those type of 15:30 foods by now. We want to look at those foods 15:32 that are not really good for us, that does not help 15:35 to protect us against the cancer and 15:36 what foods are they. Okay, now there is another 15:38 power statement, I want to share with the audience 15:40 at this time as well and let's look at this statement. 15:43 It says this, Breast Worst Enemies. 15:47 Here it is folks. Medical Journal Nutrigenesis. 15:50 "Consumption of fried/processed meat and 15:55 beef were statistically significantly correlated 15:59 with DNA damage in breast tissue." 16:04 Now in previous program we talked about the meat, 16:06 flesh, and fried foods and how it can actually 16:10 damage the DNA and causes mutations in our genes 16:15 therefore in particular in the breasts, but now only 16:17 the breasts, but other areas as well and that can also 16:20 be breast worst enemy. So we want to avoid that 16:24 a more plant based diet, the diet that American 16:27 Cancer Institute, and American Cancer Society 16:30 I should say emphasize a plant based diet they will protect 16:34 us from breast cancer and some other things as well. 16:37 Well, there's lots and more information that we can 16:39 give you on this subject as this is like never ending. 16:42 You can also reach any American Cancer Society 16:45 they have got lots of information for us as 16:47 women and also you men out there as well and we 16:51 now where we just mentioned some foods 16:53 that were really good for us to have our protector, 16:55 so we are gonna go in the kitchen because we are 16:57 actually going to be doing an angel hair tomato toss 17:00 and we are gonna be using that garlic and those onions 17:02 as well in there so get your paper and pencil 17:05 and meet us in the kitchen. |
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