Anchors of Truth

Beyond Ptolemy

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

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Participants: Kameron DeVasher

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00:22 Well we do welcome you to this auditorium -
00:25 3ABN Worship Center. And we're so happy that you
00:29 could join us for another in our series
00:33 of Anchors of Truth.
00:35 This, Danny, has been one of the most popular series
00:37 we have ever done here at 3ABN. Oh it has. And everywhere I go
00:40 people tell me so, too. Yeah.
00:41 And we have brought to you some of the best-known speakers
00:47 in the entire denomination to do these series
00:50 in the last couple of years. Um-hmm.
00:51 And then we said we want to find some young preachers
00:55 that we believe that God has been speaking through
00:58 in a very special way. That has really anointed their
01:02 ministry and we want to introduce them
01:04 to our congregation.
01:06 Now we almost were first in introducing Kameron DeVasher
01:10 but GYC beat us to it.
01:13 And so even though we had him coming...
01:15 or were planning to have him come, anyway...
01:18 you have already been introduced to him if you were at
01:22 or watched the television program
01:25 for GYC from Houston, Texas.
01:28 Yes. But you met Kameron what? A couple years ago?
01:31 Yeah, it's been at least a couple years ago I was down
01:33 at Avon Park. We had some folks say they were from Avon Park
01:36 here tonight. And I had four services that day.
01:39 Was supposed to have three. I had early morning church,
01:43 then I had regular worship hour... 11 o'clock,
01:45 and 3ABN had advertised that I would be there at 3 o'clock
01:49 in the afternoon. The church had advertised to come at 5.
01:52 So they said: "Well, there's only one solution:
01:55 you have to do four services today. "
01:57 So I did it. And after the 5 o'clock service
01:59 I was very tired... was leaving.
02:01 But a young man and his wife came up and said:
02:04 "Can we talk for just a little bit? I really want to
02:06 talk to you. " And I said: "OK. "
02:08 So we went in the office. He was assistant...
02:10 or associate pastor there.
02:12 And so I went in and talked to he and his wife.
02:14 And I was so impressed of their love for Jesus
02:17 and they began to talk to me about how much they appreciated
02:21 3ABN and the good that it's doing around the world.
02:23 And GYC - yeah - how they were so supportive.
02:26 And I saw a fire in these young people.
02:28 So pretty soon I was talking to the daughter...
02:32 and I said now... or to Kameron's wife...
02:34 and I said: "Now let's see. You guys, were you raised
02:36 in the church? " She goes: "Well my father
02:38 is Ted Wilson. " And I said: "Oh, OK. "
02:42 So we knew who Ted Wilson was, of course.
02:44 I've known him for many years but didn't know that it was
02:47 Ted Wilson's daughter. Um-hmm. But wonderful people.
02:50 And we saw their love and their desire for Jesus.
02:53 And they stick into what we call the Pillars of our Faith.
02:56 Amen. They're there. And it's good to see young people
02:59 that have the fire, they have the love for Jesus
03:02 and they know exactly where we've come from
03:05 and where we're headed.
03:06 And you know, after Kameron left Florida
03:09 he went to Michigan, where he is pastor at Muskegon
03:13 and Fremont district. OK.
03:15 And he was happy that they had a mild winter this year.
03:20 Yes, I'm sure he was... coming from Avon Park.
03:22 Right. Absolutely. That's quite an adjustment to make.
03:26 He's an experienced person. He's taught in an academy
03:30 and he'll tell you a little bit more about that.
03:32 But he has been a teacher... a Bible teacher.
03:34 He is a real Bible student.
03:37 And tonight I believe that as he enters this series
03:41 which he's calling The Greater Controversy
03:44 I believe that you are going to learn some things
03:49 and at the same time be brought much closer to our Lord and
03:53 Savior Jesus Christ. Yeah. So we're looking forward
03:56 to these five presentations by Kameron DeVasher.
03:59 And before he does that tonight though,
04:03 I'm going to ask you if you'd lead us in prayer.
04:05 All right. And right after our prayer
04:07 we have Pastor C. A. Murray, who's going to bless us
04:10 with some music. And then the next voice after him will be
04:13 Pastor Kameron. Amen. Let's pray.
04:15 Heavenly Father, we thank you for Your blessings
04:17 and Your love. We thank you for Your plan of salvation.
04:20 We thank you for a network like 3ABN that we literally can
04:24 come here in this little small community
04:26 and though there may not be a lot of folk here in this
04:29 community, as we come together You've given us a mouthpiece
04:33 that we literally... these signals, these programs
04:35 tonight are going literally around the world.
04:37 Potentially millions and hundreds of millions
04:40 and even I'm told up to two billion people could watch
04:43 this program tonight. Thank you, Father.
04:45 It's nothing more than a miracle... it IS a miracle!
04:48 We thank you that You're a God of such power
04:53 and such might, and yet You rule the mighty universe
04:56 and You're small enough to live within our hearts.
04:58 Father, tonight we ask for the anointing of Your Holy Spirit
05:01 upon this program - on the pastor, on the music -
05:04 that everything that's said and done will be to Your honor
05:08 and Your glory. We ask these things
05:10 in the worthy name of Jesus and for His sake, Amen. Amen.
05:14 Pastor Murray's going to sing for us: "I'll Tell The World. "
05:18 And then after that Pastor DeVasher is going
05:22 to present the message "Beyond Ptolemy. "
05:43 I'll tell the world
05:46 that I'm a Christian.
05:50 I'm not ashamed
05:53 His name to bear.
05:56 I'll tell the world
06:00 that I'm a Christian.
06:04 I'll take Him with me
06:08 everywhere.
06:11 I'll tell the world
06:15 how Jesus saved me
06:18 and how He gave me
06:22 a life brand new.
06:26 And I know that if you trust Him
06:32 that all He gave me
06:36 He'll give to you.
06:43 I'll tell the world
06:47 that He's my Savior.
06:50 No other one
06:54 could love me so.
06:58 My life, my all
07:01 is His forever.
07:05 And where He leads me
07:08 I will go.
07:16 I'll tell the world
07:19 Jesus is coming.
07:22 And it may be near
07:26 or far, far away.
07:30 But we've got to live
07:33 as if that coming
07:37 could be tomorrow
07:41 or today.
07:44 For when He comes
07:48 and life is over
07:51 for those who love Him
07:55 there's more to be.
07:59 Eyes have never seen the wonders
08:06 that He's preparing
08:09 for you and me.
08:17 Go tell the world
08:20 that you're a Christian.
08:23 Don't be ashamed
08:27 His name to bear.
08:31 Just tell the world
08:34 that you are a Christian.
08:38 And take Him with you
08:42 everywhere.
08:47 I'll tell the world
08:53 how Jesus saved me
08:56 and how He gave me
08:59 a life brand new.
09:04 And I know that if you trust Him
09:10 that all He gave to me
09:14 He'll give to you.
09:22 I'll tell the world
09:24 that I'm a Christian.
09:28 I'm not ashamed
09:32 His name to bear.
09:35 I'll tell the world
09:39 that I'm a Christian.
09:42 I'll take Him with me
09:45 everywhere...
09:50 I'll take Him with me
09:52 anywhere.
10:06 Amen.
10:13 Good evening everyone. Good evening.
10:16 I want to thank 3ABN for the invitation to be here
10:20 and I'm so glad that you all have joined us.
10:22 And we're going to have - I believe - a very good time
10:24 tonight studying the Word of God.
10:27 I want to start by just setting the stage a little bit.
10:30 I want to stretch the framework of your Christian thinking
10:33 just a little bit, and we're going to explore some deep
10:37 things in God's Word tonight that I believe the Holy Spirit
10:40 is going to talk to us and tell us some things
10:42 that we need to hear and is going to bless us
10:45 in a special way as we commit ourselves to the study of
10:47 God's Word. But let me set the stage like this:
10:50 for a great many... in fact, likely most Christians...
10:53 the sole reason that Jesus came and died
10:58 was to save sinners. And of course, that sounds good.
11:02 Who would ever contest that basic fact?
11:05 Jesus came to die for sinners.
11:07 Which of course He did. But from that perspective
11:10 the whole scope of salvation history extends basically
11:14 like this. You start with the creation of the world
11:16 and then the fall into sin.
11:20 You move through Jesus' life, death, ministry, resurrection.
11:25 And then someday at a point... we're not there yet
11:29 but hopefully soon... Jesus will return
11:32 and fix everything and that's it.
11:34 That's the history of redemption.
11:35 That's the story; that's the framework within our mind
11:38 are those simple, basic points.
11:41 And Seventh-day Adventists, all of whom should be familiar
11:44 with the Great Controversy theme, will take that basic
11:47 structure and kind of extend it.
11:49 That limited scope and expand it
11:51 back before the creation of the world and say:
11:55 "You know our sin problem actually started in heaven. "
11:57 And then it will extend it right on through past the end
12:00 of the second coming and say a thousand years beyond
12:03 that is when the ultimate end of our sin problem will come
12:07 and THAT'S the Great Controversy.
12:09 Well, all of those things are true.
12:12 But if you notice, one border starts at creation,
12:16 goes to the cross and ends at the second coming.
12:18 And the other simply does the exact same thing
12:20 except it expands the beginning to some time up in heaven
12:24 and the end to 1,000 years after it.
12:26 They're very, very similar and they both speak very, very
12:29 true things, but there's some- thing that I feel is lacking
12:35 in both of these perspectives.
12:37 Not that any of those things are wrong, but there is
12:39 a major implied flaw that I'd like to clarify with us
12:43 starting this evening and over the course
12:45 of our series of meetings.
12:46 And that's that both of these pictures of the plan
12:50 of redemption revolve completely and totally around us.
12:56 Jesus came to save us from sin.
12:59 We are the focus of His attention... period.
13:01 You might confess to me: "Well of course we are!
13:04 We're the sinners... we're the only sinners in the universe
13:06 so that's where His focus - His attention - is focused around.
13:09 But... that's true but at the same time -
13:13 and here's our thesis for the entire series
13:17 so you don't want to miss this -
13:19 there is more to God's plan of redemption
13:23 than merely saving lost sinners.
13:27 OK. God has a bigger plan, a broader scope,
13:31 a different perspective... a greater - if you will -
13:36 controversy than simply saving lost sinners.
13:39 Let me explain it this way.
13:41 Just after the time of Christ, a man by the name of
13:46 Claudius Ptolemy formally articulated an ancient Greek
13:51 idea of how the universe was organized.
13:54 He described the earth as THE CENTRAL OBJECT around which
13:58 every other object in the visible universe revolved.
14:01 OK?
14:02 The sun, the moon, the stars. Planets... anything
14:05 that was anything revolved around well... us.
14:09 We were the center. And believe it or not,
14:11 this idea was the commonly-held model of how the universe worked
14:15 for nearly 2,000 years.
14:17 You think about that. The earth is only 6,000 years old.
14:21 So 2,000... you know, that's a third of earth's history
14:23 people had this idea in their heads.
14:27 All of that ended, however, in the early 1500's
14:30 when a man by the name of Nicholas Copernicus
14:33 suggested that the universe, just maybe, perhaps,
14:37 might not revolve around us.
14:41 Instead he claimed that the earth was just 1 of many planets
14:44 that actually revolved around the sun.
14:48 And this did not sit well with many people, and especially
14:52 church leaders, who at the time thought it was sacrilegious,
14:56 it was unspiritual,
14:59 to suggest that the earth wasn't the center of God's universe.
15:05 In fact, the famous astronomer and telescope inventor
15:08 Galileo Galilei spent the last ten years of his life
15:11 under house arrest for supporting such a supposedly
15:15 heretical view. Now of course with our modern instruments
15:20 and all kinds of gadgets we understand that the whole
15:23 discussion of whether or not the earth is the center of the
15:26 universe is absolutely ridiculous.
15:30 We know that not only does our world revolve around the sun
15:32 but the sun and all the other planets that revolve around it
15:35 are part of a larger orbital structure called a galaxy.
15:39 And we look out in space and we see there are countless
15:41 numbers of those. We are absolutely a piece
15:44 of God's universe but we are not the center of God's universe.
15:50 Now spiritually, however, most Christians still hold to a view
15:55 of the universe - spiritually now - a view of the universe
15:59 very much akin to that of Ptolemy:
16:02 that everything in the universe from God's perspective
16:06 is done about and for us.
16:13 Sure, we acknowledge the existence of angels and demons
16:15 but, I mean, they exist to either harm or help us.
16:19 Right? And you know there might be other planets...
16:23 who's really to know? But what's really important
16:25 is that we are here, we sinned, and we have a Savior
16:28 Jesus Christ. And I believe that is important. Amen?
16:31 But tonight I want to take us beyond Ptolemy
16:34 spiritually speaking. I want us to see the greater controversy.
16:38 So if you would, let's bow our heads as we open
16:39 with a word of prayer. Dear heavenly Father,
16:42 Lord I thank you so much for loving us enough to create us,
16:47 loving us enough to come and die for us. But
16:50 Lord tonight as we study Your Word help us to expand
16:55 the horizons of our minds.
16:57 Help us to see that we serve a greater God than we even
17:00 typically imagine. And help us to fall in love
17:03 with that Jesus from a whole new perspective.
17:05 We pray in Jesus' name, Amen.
17:08 The message that I propose to present to you
17:12 will take us to a Bible study. I hope you're not offended by
17:15 that. I'm not apologizing... I'm just saying
17:17 we're going to be in our Bibles tonight.
17:20 I'm going to start at I John chapter 3.
17:22 I John chapter 3 and go to verse 8.
17:25 We're going to start with "In the beginning... "
17:28 but it may be another "in the beginning" than you're typically
17:30 used to. Although the Bible itself in the book of Genesis
17:34 opens with the words: "In the beginning God created, "
17:37 that's the beginning of us. But I want to take us to
17:40 a different beginning. I John chapter 3 and verse 8.
17:44 Jesus here... I'm sorry. The apostle John here
17:49 speaking of the devil
17:55 says in verse 8 these words:
17:57 "He who sins is of the devil
18:00 for the devil has sinned... " What are the next 3 words?
18:04 "from the beginning. "
18:07 And notice this next sentence very carefully:
18:10 "For this purpose the Son of God was manifested:
18:15 that He might destroy the works of the devil. "
18:21 You notice he says that the devil has sinned from the
18:24 beginning. And in our minds we think: "Oh,
18:26 well right there in creation. "
18:27 But there's an earlier beginning.
18:30 You know, I have a hard time relating to things that happened
18:32 before 1977. Right? But apparently spiritually
18:37 speaking there was stuff before the creation of the world.
18:40 There was a beginning prior to that.
18:41 "From the beginning... " it says, "the devil... "
18:45 The devil... from the beginning.
18:49 But it says here that God came - Christ came - was manifested
18:54 to destroy the works of the devil.
18:56 So He is here - He came here - to finish something that started
18:59 before we were even on the scene.
19:02 Hmmm. So what exactly were these works of the devil
19:07 that Christ came to destroy? Have you ever wondered
19:08 about that? What did Satan who, of course, started off
19:13 in a different position, Lucifer,
19:15 what did he actually do wrong?
19:17 Think about it. Did he commit adultery?
19:20 Did he steal? Did he kill? What did he do?
19:22 Let's explore this a little bit deeper.
19:24 Go to the book of John now.
19:25 We went from I John to the book of John -
19:27 the gospel of John - John chapter 8 and verse 44.
19:33 Jesus here contending with the spiritual leaders of that time.
19:43 He gave them some language, gave them some words,
19:45 that I don't know that they were particularly comfortable with.
19:48 Well we'll start in verse 37 to get the context.
19:51 John chapter 8 starting with verse 37.
19:53 "I know that you are Abraham's descendants, but you seek
19:58 to kill Me. " Right. So they're talking about the Jews that say
20:01 "We are Abraham's descendants. " And Jesus said: "Look, I know
20:03 genealogically you are descendants BUT
20:05 you're seeking to kill Me. "
20:07 And the premise is: Abraham wouldn't do that.
20:10 Goes on... verse 38:
20:15 "I speak what I have seen with My Father, and you do
20:19 what you have seen with your father. "
20:21 So note: He sets up a juxtaposition there.
20:24 Your father and then there's My Father.
20:26 And they're thinking Abraham but Christ is thinking
20:29 of a greater controversy.
20:31 Verse 39:
20:33 "They answered and said to Him: 'Abraham is our father. '
20:37 Jesus said to them: 'If you were Abraham's children
20:39 you would do the works of Abraham.
20:42 But now... " Verse 40... "you seek to kill Me:
20:46 a Man which has told you the truth which I heard from God.
20:49 Abraham did not do this.
20:51 You do the deeds of your father. '
20:54 Then they said to Him: 'We were not born of fornication;
20:57 we have one Father: God. ' "
20:59 So they're saying: "We are the children of Abraham
21:01 and he was the son of God. We are the children of God. "
21:05 Verse 42: "Jesus said to them:
21:07 "If God were your Father, you would love Me
21:10 for I proceeded forth and came from God.
21:12 Nor have I come of Myself but He sent me. "
21:15 Verse 43: "Why do you not understand My speech?
21:18 Because you are not able to listen to My word. "
21:20 And here's the key in verse 44:
21:22 "You are of your father the... " Who?
21:25 "the devil. " That is strong language!
21:29 "You are of your father the devil, and the desires
21:33 of your father you want to do. "
21:37 So the same spirit that was in him is in you.
21:40 "The desires of your father you want to do.
21:42 He was a... " and here's our key...
21:45 "a murderer from the beginning. "
21:48 Here's from that beginning again.
21:50 "He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand
21:54 in the truth because there is no truth in him.
21:56 When he speaks a lie
21:58 he speaks from his own resources for he is a liar
22:00 and the father of it. "
22:03 Apparently the devil is the father of lies
22:06 and has been a murderer from the beginning.
22:10 So if the work or the sin that the devil committed
22:13 that got him cast from heaven was telling lies
22:15 and committing murder it's only reasonable to ask
22:20 "What lie did he tell? "
22:22 And beyond that: "Who did he kill? "
22:25 If he was a murderer from the beginning,
22:28 who was his victim? Who did he kill?
22:32 We need to dig into this a little bit.
22:34 Go to the book of Ezekiel chapter 28.
22:37 Ezekiel chapter 28 gives us a behind-the-scenes view
22:40 of this "from the beginning"
22:43 which of course is not the beginning of the entire universe
22:46 nor the beginning of our part of the universe
22:48 but the beginning of sin itself.
22:49 Ezekiel chapter 28 starting with verse 14.
22:53 Let's listen to the words of scripture
22:56 describing this devil before his fall.
23:00 Says: "You were the anointed cherub who covers. "
23:03 And we're just going to break this text down phrase by phrase.
23:05 "You were the anointed cherub who covers.
23:08 I established you.
23:10 You were on the holy mountain of God.
23:12 You walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones.
23:14 You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created
23:17 till iniquity was found in you. "
23:21 "You were perfect in your ways. "
23:23 Now let's see, he's the anointed cherub who covers.
23:28 That's an angel right next to the throne of God.
23:31 In fact, in the heavenly sanctuary of which the earthly
23:34 sanctuary is but a model, apparently there were
23:37 orders of angels. And he was established...
23:40 he was ordained some scriptures say.
23:42 You think of Satan being an ordained minister.
23:44 But he was.
23:46 "You were the anointed cherub who covers. "
23:47 And you think... your mind goes to the ark of the covenant
23:49 with its two golden angels who cover the Shekinah glory,
23:52 the very throne of God.
23:54 Lucifer was one of those.
23:56 "You were the anointed cherub who covers. "
23:58 He had a job right there next to the very throne of God.
24:03 And it also says He was "perfect in your ways... "
24:05 "You were perfect in your ways. "
24:07 This means that he was a sinless being.
24:09 Perfect is not thrown around loosely in scripture.
24:12 But he was a sinless being.
24:14 Then it says: "from the day you were created"
24:17 which indicates that this was a created being.
24:19 So this was not an inherently immortal being but
24:22 this was a contingent being if you will
24:25 that God brought into being.
24:30 And it says: "till iniquity was found in you. "
24:34 From this being - for this being - iniquity or sin was not
24:39 something discovered outside of himself
24:41 but was formed from within.
24:45 No other being came up to him with a suggestion
24:48 or a temptation or a new idea that he gave in to.
24:50 It happened from inside.
24:52 So let's continue to verse 16
24:54 'cause we're still asking the question: what did he actually
24:56 do wrong? What were the lies that he told?
24:58 Who did he actually kill? Verse 16, Ezekiel 28:
25:01 "By the abundance of your... " And based on what Christ
25:04 has said we would expect "by the abundance of your
25:06 killing. " But what does it say?
25:08 "by the abundance of your trading
25:11 you became filled with violence within and you sinned.
25:17 Therefore... " so because of that...
25:20 "Therefore I cast you as a profane thing
25:22 out of the mountain of God and I destroyed you,
25:24 O covering cherub, from the midst of the fiery stones. "
25:29 And although some versions don't include the word within
25:32 when it talks about he was filled with violence
25:34 they all agree that he was not cast out of heaven for his
25:37 violent acts.
25:40 But that that violence was filling him up on the inside
25:43 and it manifested itself not in killing someone
25:49 but in what the Bible calls "trading. "
25:52 Or some versions even call "merchandise. "
25:55 He was selling something.
25:58 Now how do you harmonize these two things?
26:01 Jesus said he was a murderer from the beginning and here
26:02 it says he was in trouble - he got cast out -
26:04 for his trafficking, his trading, his merchandise.
26:07 He was filled with violence within.
26:12 Well thankfully, scripture interprets itself.
26:14 And the same Jesus that told about the devil
26:17 now talks about... in Matthew chapter 5 verses 21 and 22
26:22 listen to Jesus talk about the crime of murder.
26:24 This is what He says:
26:27 "You have heard that it was said to those of old
26:29 'you shall not murder. ' And whoever murders
26:31 will be in danger of the judgment.
26:33 But I say to you... ' " So notice He's taking
26:37 the superficial and making it deeper.
26:39 "But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother
26:42 without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. "
26:46 And whoever says to his brother 'Raca' shall be in danger
26:50 of the Council.
26:52 But whoever says 'You fool! '
26:53 shall be in danger of hell fire. "
26:57 That word raca that He slides in the middle there
27:00 it means something like empty-headed or nonsensical
27:04 or ignorant... or as Christ draws the parallel
27:06 the same as calling someone a fool.
27:08 You don't know what you're doing.
27:10 Says: "If you say that and in your heart
27:13 there's a murderous intent
27:16 that's tantamount to murder itself. "
27:20 And by the way, in this text - we'll just jump in a little bit
27:23 deeper here because we're going to be laying some threads
27:26 that aren't going to be resolved tonight. But we're going to
27:28 pick them up and weave them into a tapestry.
27:31 In this text notice that it says "then whoever... "
27:35 It doesn't say whoever has anger in his heart without cause
27:37 will be executed.
27:39 It says: "Whoever is angry without cause shall be in danger
27:43 of the judgment. "
27:44 He'll be put before a Council.
27:49 And then you could be in danger of hell fire.
27:51 It seems to imply a deliberative panel
27:56 examining evidence to determine sentencing.
28:00 In fact, we'll see this unfold more clearly tonight.
28:04 Even more so in our subsequent messages.
28:06 But back to the matter at hand.
28:08 This angel's violence was not outward murder...
28:11 it was inward hatred.
28:14 The sin for which he was cast out of heaven
28:17 was a murderous intent that manifest itself not in
28:19 taking life but in trading or selling something.
28:22 And just in case you think I'm way out on a limb here
28:25 and taking liberties with the text, skip down two verses
28:28 and look at verse 18. Ezekiel 28:18
28:31 continues the scene:
28:33 "You defiled your sanctuary
28:36 by the multitude of your iniquities. "
28:37 And of course iniquity is a synonym for sin.
28:39 "By the multitude of your iniquities.
28:41 By the iniquity of your trading. "
28:45 Or you look it up in the King James version:
28:46 "your traffic. " This is merchandise again.
28:50 "By the iniquity of your trading. Therefore
28:53 I brought fire from your midst and devoured you.
28:55 And I turned you to ashes upon the earth... "
28:57 And this will be key later on:
28:59 "in the sight of all who saw you. "
29:04 Hmmm. If you look this text up in the Seventh-day Adventist
29:08 Bible Commentary you'll find two sentences
29:10 that refer to this. And Mrs. White only refers
29:12 to this traffic one time in all of her writings,
29:14 and it's found in the fourth volume of the Seventh-day
29:17 Adventist Bible Commentary on page 1163.
29:19 Two sentences. "In this place... "
29:23 In scripture. "In this place traffic is the emblem of
29:28 corrupt administration. It denotes the bringing of
29:32 self-seeking into spiritual offices. "
29:36 OK. So you have the picture in your head.
29:38 There's the throne of God. And of course only one being
29:41 in the universe sits on the throne of God, right?
29:43 But there's those two covering cherubs
29:45 of which Lucifer was one.
29:47 And apparently his responsibility was to be
29:50 an ambassador for Christ. To be a spokesman,
29:53 a representative so that the glory would come and he would
29:55 deflect it and give it to the Father.
29:58 He conducted the praise of the heavenly beings.
30:01 But apparently into that spiritual office
30:03 crept self-seeking.
30:07 And instead of killing he started selling something.
30:11 Selling something...
30:14 Now again, that's just a Bible commentary.
30:16 That's not the Bible itself. But does the Bible support
30:18 this claim? Let's go to the book of Isaiah chapter 14.
30:22 Isaiah chapter 14 we get another glimpse into the fall.
30:28 It says here in chapter 14 starting with verse 12:
30:32 "How you are fallen from heaven O Lucifer, son of the morning.
30:36 How you are cut down to the ground, you who weaken the
30:38 nations. For... " and notice this again:
30:41 you have been cut down to the ground for this reason...
30:45 "for you have said... " Where did he say it?
30:48 "in your heart... " "for you have said in your heart
30:52 'I will ascend into heaven.
30:53 I will exalt my throne above the stars of God... '
30:57 Stars always being a symbol for angels,
31:00 especially in prophecy there.
31:02 'I will exalt my throne above the stars of God.
31:05 I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
31:07 on the farthest sides of the north.
31:08 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds.
31:11 I will be like the Most High. ' "
31:14 "I will be like the Most High. "
31:16 Bringing self-seeking into his spiritual office.
31:22 Yet it says in verse 15 at the conclusion of all that:
31:25 "Yet you shall be brought down to shaol...
31:28 the lowest depths of the pit. " Notice here again:
31:31 the reason Lucifer was cast out of heaven was not because
31:33 of outward violence but because of an inward struggle,
31:37 a desire for self-exaltation.
31:39 So we're going to start to put the pieces together.
31:41 Coupled with the information from the book of Ezekiel
31:44 the picture emerges of a high-ranking angel
31:46 or a covering cherub as scripture says
31:48 who though already in a position of leadership
31:51 in God's government became dissatisfied with that position
31:55 and desired to become like the Most High.
31:58 He literally wanted to be like God.
32:03 You know, it's fascinating to me that there is a name
32:05 used in scripture that means "who is like God, "
32:08 and that name is Michael.
32:12 In just a couple moments Michael is about to play
32:15 a critical role in our story.
32:17 So taking into account these inspired records
32:20 we can start to take that picture and apply it
32:24 to what we see in John's testimony found in the book
32:26 of Revelation. Go to Revelation chapter 12
32:30 and start with verse 7.
32:32 Again, the third Biblical description of this fall
32:37 of Lucifer. Revelation chapter 12 starting with verse 7:
32:40 "And war broke out in heaven.
32:43 Michael... " the One who is like God...
32:46 His name literally means that...
32:48 "and His angels fought with the dragon.
32:50 And the dragon and his angels fought but they did not
32:52 prevail nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer.
32:56 So the great dragon was cast out - that serpent of old
32:59 called the devil and Satan who deceives the whole world -
33:02 he was cast to the earth and his angels were cast out with him. "
33:08 So based on the previous Bible study we've done
33:11 we can see that this war in heaven was not a war of
33:13 arms but a war of words... a war of ideas.
33:17 He was selling something counterfeit to God's government.
33:22 By the way, the word... the Greek word for war
33:25 in this text is polemos
33:26 from which we derive the English word...
33:29 from which the English word is derived: polemic.
33:32 OK. Now polemic is a type of argument.
33:35 Webster defines it this way:
33:37 an aggressive attack or refutation of the opinions
33:41 or principles of another.
33:43 That's the war in heaven.
33:45 The other definition: it's the art or practice
33:49 of disputation or controversy.
33:52 The art of controversy and disputing.
33:55 An aggressive attack... a war of words, a war of ideas.
34:01 Now, while to many minds the great controversy
34:03 between Christ and Satan is all about us
34:05 long before we were even on the scene
34:07 there was already raging a greater controversy.
34:10 Right in the very center of the heavenly universe
34:13 one of the Lord's most trusted and highly exalted creatures
34:16 out of jealousy for Christ - the One who IS like God -
34:20 he waged a war of ideas against the government of God.
34:25 And by the way fascinatingly enough
34:27 we can clarify this just a little step farther.
34:30 You remember when Jesus dealt with the Jewish leaders
34:33 who were agitating Him by telling them that they were
34:35 doing the works of their father the devil?
34:38 Keep that in mind and now notice
34:40 in Mark chapter 15 and verse 10 as Jesus stood before His
34:44 accusers in that mockery of a trial that He endured
34:47 just before His execution even Pilate -
34:51 who claimed to find no fault in Christ -
34:54 looked at the situation. He was an objective observer.
34:57 He did not have "skin in this game" if you will.
34:59 But he saw Christ and he saw His accusers,
35:01 and look in Mark chapter 15 and verse 10.
35:03 These are the words of Pilate.
35:05 It says that he knew... scripture tells us
35:08 that Pilate knew that the chief priest had handed Him over
35:12 because of... envy.
35:15 And Jesus looked at that same scenario.
35:18 What He saw here on earth - that same murderous envy
35:22 that Jesus saw in the Jewish leaders at His mock trial -
35:25 He had seen long before in the heart of Lucifer.
35:29 When he looked at them it was like déjà vu.
35:32 He'd stood here before. Now you think about this:
35:39 isn't God, you know... all knowing?
35:42 Isn't He omniscient?
35:44 I mean, the Bible repeatedly declares that God searches
35:47 our hearts and minds. I Corinthians 4:5
35:50 says that the Lord can and someday will
35:52 "bring to light the hidden things of darkness
35:55 and reveal the counsels of the heart. "
35:57 He can... He can read your mind; He can search your heart.
35:59 How many times have we repeated the well-known Bible truth
36:02 from I Samuel 16:7 that "the Lord does not see
36:06 as man sees, for man looks at the outward appearance
36:10 but the Lord looks... " Where? 'on the heart. "
36:13 So I mean if there was some battle waging inside the heart
36:16 of Lucifer could not God have seen that?
36:20 Of course. And even if Lucifer was taxing every ounce
36:24 of that tremendous, angelic intellect to wage a war
36:28 of ideas against the government of God
36:29 in an effort to so twist the minds of the heavenly peers
36:33 that they would commit treason against their Creator and King,
36:36 wouldn't God just see right through it?
36:39 I mean, there's no way He was deceived, was there?
36:43 Of course not... of course not.
36:47 So we're left with this paradox.
36:50 If God knew what Lucifer was up to,
36:53 if He could read the secret thoughts and intents
36:56 of his heart, why wouldn't He just destroy him
36:59 right then and there?
37:02 Why was Lucifer merely cast out of heaven
37:05 instead of being blotted out of existence?
37:07 Why was he cast and not blotted?
37:12 It's a pertinent question for us because where was he sent?
37:15 To the earth.
37:19 I think you find the answer in scripture as well.
37:21 Go back now to the book of Isaiah.
37:25 The book of Isaiah chapter 14 again starting with verse 16.
37:31 We'll overlap but extend it just a little bit.
37:33 Isaiah chapter 14 starting with verse 14.
37:36 Scripture reads:
37:42 "I will ascend... " This is the middle of Lucifer's speech
37:45 to himself, that inward monologue...
37:47 "I will ascend above the heights of the clouds.
37:49 I will be like the Most High.
37:51 Yet you shall be brought down to shaol, to the lowest depths
37:54 of the pit. " Now look at verse 16 very carefully:
37:57 "Those who see you will gaze at you
38:03 and consider you. "
38:05 What are some synonyms for consider?
38:08 You consider something? You think about it.
38:11 You mull it over; you ponder it.
38:13 You really wrestle with an idea; you consider it.
38:17 Apparently those who knew him were going to see him
38:19 and gaze at him and consider him.
38:22 Interesting... very interesting.
38:25 "Those who see you will gaze at you and consider you
38:28 saying: 'Is this the man who made the earth tremble?
38:32 Who shook kingdoms? ' "
38:35 Let's go back now to Ezekiel chapter 28
38:38 starting with verse 17.
38:43 Scripture reads: "Your heart was lifted because of your
38:45 beauty. You corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your
38:48 splendor. I cast you to the ground. I laid you before kings"
38:52 and here it is again...
38:54 "that they might gaze at you. "
38:57 It tells us why he was cast out instead of being blotted out.
39:02 "That the kings " - those who knew him - "might gaze at him. "
39:05 Again, verse 18: "You defiled your sanctuary
39:09 by the multitude of your iniquities...
39:10 by the iniquity of your trading.
39:12 Therefore I brought fire from your midst and devoured you
39:16 and I turned you to ashes upon the earth... "
39:18 And here it is again:
39:19 "in the sight of all who saw you. "
39:21 Verse 19:
39:22 "All who knew you among the people are astonished at you.
39:26 You have become a horror and shall be no more forever. "
39:31 Notice the chronological sequencing.
39:33 "All who knew you... " past tense.
39:36 "are astonished... " present tense.
39:39 "You have become a horror... " still present tense.
39:42 "and you shall be no more forever. "
39:46 It's almost as if there were some people who knew him.
39:50 And the reason that the Lord didn't blot him out of existence
39:53 is so that those people could watch him and gaze at him
39:57 and consider what in the world this guy was doing.
40:02 What a powerful thought!
40:04 So God, though clearly knowing the rebellious, lying,
40:07 even murderous intents of Lucifer did not destroy him
40:09 immediately. Not because it wouldn't have been right
40:12 but because it wouldn't have been seen as right.
40:17 Do you see the difference?
40:19 Let me give you an illustration.
40:22 A man was at home one evening all by himself.
40:26 Not many lights were on; he headed in to bed.
40:30 And he's lying there in bed and he hears a disturbance
40:35 in the house like someone is knocking on the door.
40:38 But they're not knocking... they're just trying to get in.
40:39 Then he hears a forceful entry
40:42 and his nerves are on high alert.
40:47 And he hears the rustling around and the clattering about.
40:51 He takes a step out of bed and he quietly goes down
40:54 the hallway. Two people trying to sneak through the house
40:58 at the same time: one the intruder and one the victim.
41:03 The intruder has taken whatever it was he came for...
41:05 let's say the television set... in his hands.
41:07 Walks across the living room
41:10 at just the moment that the man flips on the light switch.
41:12 And there's the man looking at the burglar.
41:16 And this burglar - not wearing a mask or anything like that -
41:19 sees this man's face - bright light shining on both of them -
41:23 indelibly printed on their minds. And both of their eyes
41:26 just bug out. Ooh...
41:28 Immediately the man drops the TV.
41:31 Runs, and as fast as he can get out the door
41:33 the other man is chasing him and he gets the phone.
41:34 He's not going to chase him down in the night.
41:36 Picks up the phone; he calls 911.
41:37 He said: "I've been robbed... in fact, I'm being robbed
41:39 right now! Come and get him; he's right here on my street. "
41:42 He gave them the address and the man goes back to bed
41:45 a little shaken but he's able to get some sleep.
41:47 He hears the night... the sirens off in the night
41:49 and he figures "Well, this guy is probably getting his
41:51 right now. " The next day the man goes to work.
41:57 And he goes into his job and he sits down at his chair
42:02 where he works. And the other man is having his day.
42:06 He did get caught by the police and he's having his day as well.
42:09 And he's not going to work... he's going to trial.
42:13 And he walks into the courtroom
42:16 just as the homeowner walks into his place of business
42:20 to sit down as the judge.
42:23 And for the second time in so many days their eyes lock.
42:29 Super awkward.
42:33 I can imagine being a judge.
42:37 I think it's nice to judge people every now and then.
42:38 We shouldn't do it, but I mean... but this guy...
42:41 he knew what he did, right?
42:44 And the criminal knew he had...
42:46 Of all the luck, right?
42:50 Of all the houses, of all of the people. This is the judge!
42:52 And he walks in and their eyes lock for the second time.
42:54 Bug out... both of them and...
42:59 But let me ask you a question.
43:00 In the scenario just laid out if the judge came down
43:04 and of course there's all the different people: the bailiff
43:07 and the different people holding him, and then there's
43:08 perhaps there's a jury there. I don't know how it all works,
43:11 and there's a defense attorney. But there's a room full of
43:12 people going through the process.
43:17 And the judge says: "Guys, just everybody be quiet
43:20 for a minute. Let's just cut to the chase on this one,
43:22 all right? I can tell you right now
43:25 'Guilty! ' I am ready to make a verdict."
43:28 Puts the gavel down... declares him guilty.
43:30 He's like: "I know what he's charged with.
43:33 I'm the one who called it in!
43:35 And I'm sitting here saying 'I know him; I recognize him.
43:38 Positive ID... this man is guilty. ' "
43:41 Would the judge have been right
43:43 in his assessment of the situation?
43:45 Absolutely!
43:47 But would he be doing right by jumping ahead of the process?
43:52 No.
43:55 So let me ask you this question:
43:59 well let's put it this way...
44:01 there is value in the process.
44:04 There's a reason for due process
44:10 even if the judge already knows the answer.
44:14 Why would it be wrong to jump ahead of the process?
44:19 Because there are some people who need to see some evidence.
44:25 They need to say: "Well judge, I mean I know you
44:27 and I trust you. I'm on your side.
44:29 I'm not doubting your word. But...
44:31 you can't just arbitrarily - at least appearingly
44:35 arbitrarily - pass sentence on this man who we haven't seen
44:39 the evidence. We haven't heard the arguments.
44:41 We haven't seen for ourselves the truth of the matter. "
44:46 There's a reason that God only cast the devil out
44:50 and didn't destroy him on the spot.
44:55 You find this on pages 41 and 42
44:58 of the book Patriarchs and Prophets. I love that book.
45:02 But I want you to see that in the book of Ezekiel
45:04 and in the book of Isaiah repeatedly we have seen
45:07 the reason being given for Satan being cast out to the earth
45:10 is not because He didn't... that God didn't know
45:13 the difference between right and wrong.
45:15 It's because everybody else didn't know the difference
45:17 between right and wrong yet.
45:19 And it says: "So that they might gaze at you
45:21 and consider you in the sight of all who knew you. "
45:24 "That they might see you. "
45:26 It's important... Well let me just cut to it.
45:31 This is a lengthy... a lengthy passage
45:35 but notice the visible language. The scene understood...
45:40 clearly recognized. Here it is:
45:42 "God permitted Satan to carry forward his work
45:46 until the spirit of disaffection ripened into active revolt.
45:50 It was necessary for his plans to be fully developed. "
45:55 Check that. It was necessary.
45:57 It was not a good option... it was the only option.
46:00 It's a necessity.
46:02 It was a necessity. "It was necessary for his plans
46:05 to be fully developed that their true nature
46:07 and tendency might be seen by all.
46:12 Lucifer, as the anointed cherub, had been highly exalted.
46:15 He was greatly loved by the heavenly beings
46:18 and his influence over them was strong.
46:21 All his acts... " she continues writing...
46:24 "All his acts were so clothed with mystery
46:26 that it was difficult to disclose to the angels
46:31 the true nature of his work. "
46:33 So does God know everything?
46:36 Of course! Absolutely.
46:38 But God cares more than just being right... about more
46:41 than just being right. He wants to be SEEN as right.
46:44 So they couldn't see through the mystery.
46:48 Do you suppose that the angels knew Lucifer?
46:51 Absolutely.
46:53 Do you suppose that they trusted his word?
46:56 Absolutely.
46:58 In fact, he was a leader. He was the anointed cherub
47:01 who covers. They're used to going to him as the leader in
47:03 praise and worship to God. And here's this man,
47:05 this angel, this host of heaven, this trusted being,
47:08 the right-hand man of God if you will,
47:10 who now is speaking against God.
47:14 And of course God knows the difference.
47:17 But she continues:
47:20 "All of his acts were so clothed with mystery that it was
47:22 difficult to disclose to the angels the true nature
47:24 of his work. Until fully developed
47:27 it could not be made to appear the evil thing that it was. "
47:31 So Satan didn't become evil as the process went on.
47:34 He was evil... but you couldn't see it.
47:38 "His disaffection would not be seen to be rebellion. "
47:43 If the Lord kicked him out... or the Lord destroyed him
47:46 right then and there, blotted him out of existence,
47:48 you know there could be an idea that maybe
47:52 he was on to something.
47:55 Have you heard of someone who died but their ideas,
47:58 their spirit lives on?
47:59 Watch this now:
48:02 "Even the loyal angels could not fully discern his character
48:06 or see to what his work was leading. "
48:09 Like we understand it's a different direction
48:11 than God is, but we don't know where the end of that direction.
48:14 Of course the Lord knows the end from the beginning.
48:16 He's the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end.
48:19 But we don't have that kind of insight.
48:22 They couldn't see to what his work was leading.
48:25 "It was therefore" - because of that limitation in vision -
48:28 "It was therefore necessary to demonstrate... "
48:31 Keep that in your mind: "necessary to demonstrate
48:34 before the inhabitants of heaven and of all the worlds
48:37 that God's government is just... "
48:39 He didn't have to become just;
48:41 He needed everybody to see that it is just.
48:44 "His law perfect.
48:46 Satan made it appear that... "
48:49 "made it appear that he himself was seeking to promote
48:53 the good of the universe.
48:54 The true character of the usurper and his real object
48:57 must be understood by all. "
48:59 Must of necessity be understood by all.
49:02 "He must have time to manifest himself by his wicked works. "
49:06 By his wicked... Remember John chapter 8?
49:10 "The works of the devil... "
49:13 Jesus came here to contest that from there.
49:17 She continues... second paragraph:
49:20 "The discord which his own course had caused in heaven
49:23 Satan charged upon the government of God. "
49:25 Think of how ridiculous that must be. From God's perspective
49:28 He's like: "You know, we didn't have any trouble before
49:31 and when you started talking these ideas all of a sudden
49:33 we have trouble. " But somehow Satan - the master
49:35 polemic, the master politician - was able to say: "Hey, hey!
49:38 That's not me... that's Him.
49:39 If it wasn't for His law, if it wasn't for His way of
49:43 governing things, we wouldn't even be having this problem.
49:45 Wouldn't it be great to have a government that didn't even
49:47 have to have these questions come up?
49:48 I'm sorry to have to be the sad bearer of bad news
49:51 but... " So he shifted the blame back to God.
49:55 And of course God could have said:
49:58 "No it's not. " Satan could have said: "Yes it is. "
50:00 "No it's not. " What does that accomplish?
50:05 His own works had to condemn him.
50:09 "All evil he declared to be the result of the divine
50:12 administration. He claimed that it was his own object to improve
50:15 upon the statutes of Jehovah. "
50:17 "I can make the laws better. "
50:20 "Therefore God permitted him to demonstrate the nature
50:24 of his claims to show the working out of his proposed
50:27 changes in the divine law. His own work must condemn him.
50:31 Satan had claimed from the first that he was not in rebellion. "
50:34 He's like: "No, no, no. This isn't a rebellion.
50:37 This is just a positive reformation.
50:39 This is the new and improved government of God.
50:41 I'm just trying to help Him out and I don't understand why
50:44 He's being so closed minded and cold hearted.
50:48 It's not me. "
50:52 Hmmm.
50:56 "The whole universe must see the deceiver unmasked. "
51:02 So here we bring to our final paragraph:
51:05 "Even when he was cast out of heaven
51:07 infinite wisdom did not destroy Satan.
51:12 Since only the service of love can be acceptable to God
51:15 the allegiance of His creatures must rest upon a conviction
51:18 of His justice and benevolence. "
51:21 You know there are Christians in the world who serve God
51:23 because He's the most powerful being.
51:25 The sovereignty of God is the highest order.
51:27 But you know that God wants you to serve Him
51:30 for a bigger reason than just He's sovereign and He
51:31 runs the place? He actually wants service of love.
51:38 Think about that.
51:42 "Since only the service of love can be acceptable to God
51:44 the allegiance of His creatures must rest upon a conviction
51:46 of His justice and benevolence.
51:48 The inhabitants of heaven and of the worlds
51:50 being unprepared to comprehend the nature or consequences of
51:54 sin... " By the way, the wages of sin is what? Death.
51:57 Up unto this point, how many people had ever died?
52:00 None. They'd never seen death.
52:03 Just like saying: "The wages of sin is gobbledygork. "
52:07 People like: "Hmmm, yes... Hmmm. "
52:10 "I don't... Is that good? Bad? I really don't know what that is
52:13 but it sounds different. "
52:15 But they didn't understand the nature of it.
52:17 They didn't understand the consequences.
52:18 Those were hollow words in a place with no death.
52:21 They needed to understand the consequences of sin.
52:24 "They could not have seen... " Notice this:
52:27 "They could not then have seen the justice of God
52:29 in the destruction of Satan.
52:32 Had he been immediately blotted out of existence
52:34 some would have served God from fear rather than from love.
52:39 The influence... " Here it is... "of the deceiver
52:41 would not have been fully destroyed nor would the spirit
52:44 of rebellion have been utterly eradicated.
52:48 For the good... " and this is a radical thought
52:51 but here it is. I'm going to close down on this idea...
52:54 "For the good of the entire universe through ceaseless ages
52:59 He must more fully develop his principles
53:02 that his charges against the divine government
53:04 might be seen in their true light by all created beings
53:07 and that the justice and mercy of God and the immutability
53:10 of His law might be forever placed beyond all question. "
53:13 Did you catch what she's saying there?
53:15 It was in the best interest of the universe that Satan
53:19 stay alive. Have you ever thought about that?
53:23 It's good for us that Satan is still going.
53:27 Whoo... that is a bizarre message,
53:32 but my friends, that's the key of the greater controversy.
53:35 There's a reason God didn't just blot him out.
53:37 There's a reason that at that initial rebellion He didn't just
53:41 end his life. There's a reason when he was cast to the earth
53:43 he wasn't just laid before and then executed.
53:45 He gave him time to develop his principles.
53:51 Hmmm. So we conclude right back where we started
53:54 in John chapter 8 and verse 44.
53:57 John chapter 8 and verse 44.
54:00 Jesus again, speaking to those people in whose eyes
54:05 He sees the same conflict:
54:16 "He who sins is of the devil.
54:23 Sorry... I John chapter 3 and verse 8:
54:25 "He who sins is of the devil for the devil has sinned
54:30 from the beginning. "
54:32 And notice this key sentence:
54:34 "For this purpose the Son of God was manifested
54:37 that He might destroy the works of the devil. "
54:43 As we started off, I feel that far too many Christians
54:46 have a view of the universe spiritually speaking:
54:50 "Well the reason Christ came here was just to get me
54:53 out of this mess... to help me out. "
54:54 No, my friends... there's something bigger.
54:57 As great as you are... and I know to you
54:58 you're the only you that you've got, right?
55:01 And you is big to you...
55:05 But there is something greater than just saving sinners.
55:08 Than just the people on this planet being brought back
55:11 to a different place. Apparently there's an entire
55:13 cosmic controversy, a broader scope,
55:15 a greater controversy
55:18 that Christ's life, death on the cross,
55:20 as we're going to see in the nights to come, answers.
55:24 Because the reason was that He laid him out there
55:27 was so people could look and see the contrast between Christ
55:29 and Satan and to understand and see the deceiver unmasked.
55:33 Jesus came to have that controversy solved.
55:38 And my friends, that's a wonderful thing.
55:40 Because I don't want to go back to heaven
55:41 just go through it all again.
55:44 I want a God... I love the God that we have.
55:47 I don't want a God, I've got a God
55:50 who doesn't just take things in His own hands,
55:53 execute judgment... as right as it may be.
55:55 He actually created beings who He decided to care
55:59 what they think. Have you ever thought about that?
56:02 God cares what you think.
56:06 Your opinion matters.
56:08 That He's not going to leave any stone unturned
56:12 and He's going to play the whole thing out to the end.
56:15 Because in the scope of eternity
56:18 He is right and He wants to be seen as right.
56:21 And someday, every knee will bow,
56:24 every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord
56:28 to the glory of God the Father.
56:30 That's the greater controversy.
56:32 Let's bow our heads for a word of prayer.
56:34 Dear heavenly Father,
56:36 Lord I thank you so much
56:38 for creating us in the first place.
56:42 But Lord, when we sinned and fell short of the glory of God
56:45 You didn't leave us here. You didn't abandon us.
56:48 You sent Your Son to save us.
56:50 And beyond even just saving us, however, Lord, we understand
56:53 there's a greater controversy, that there's a broader scope,
56:58 and that there are other beings on other worlds,
57:00 there are heavenly angels who are watching all that's
57:03 going on and You have a great responsibility.
57:06 And Your goal is to not just save some sinners but to
57:09 set right the entire created universe...
57:12 not temporarily but forever.
57:15 And Lord, You've chosen... For some reason I will probably
57:18 never understand, Lord, You have chosen to care what we think.
57:22 Lord help us to not take that responsibility in vain.
57:26 Help us to not treat it with contempt or to pass it off
57:30 blithely by.


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