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Who Gets the Glory?

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Participants: Lee Venden

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00:12 Welcome to Anchors Of Truth
00:15 live from the 3ABN Worship Center.
00:22 Well tonight we are with part two of this series,
00:27 The Revelation of Whom, with Pastor Lee Venden.
00:31 And I am looking forward to tonight's subject.
00:34 Because last night's subject was something that really
00:38 opened my eyes to some new concepts and new views
00:42 of the hot and the cold and the Laodicean of Revelation.
00:49 Tonight we're going to continue in the book of Revelation
00:52 with, Who Gets the Glory.
00:55 And I tell you, one of my favorite songs is,
00:59 To God Be The Glory.
01:02 And I cannot believe that it is not going to be answered
01:07 in that same way tonight.
01:09 Because I believe that is exactly what
01:12 Pastor Lee Venden is going to be sharing with us.
01:15 If you don't know who Lee Venden is, he is a pastor
01:18 of over 30 years in the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
01:22 And he and his wife, Marji, have been married, I think,
01:26 36 years, and they have two wonderful children.
01:31 And he's educated, of course, in our schools.
01:35 His father was also a pastor,
01:38 and his grandfather was a pastor.
01:41 And I don't know how far it goes back.
01:44 And each pastor is in the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
01:48 He is now the Revivalist in the Upper Columbia Conference.
01:53 And we have appreciated very much his being with us.
01:59 He's going to be leading us in prayer before
02:02 the sermon tonight.
02:05 And before he comes, I'm going to ask our good friend
02:09 C.A. Murray to sing for us, I'll Tell The World.
02:33 I'll tell the world that I'm a Christian,
02:40 I'm not ashamed His name to bear.
02:47 I'll tell the world that I'm a Christian,
02:54 I'll take Him with me everywhere.
03:02 I'll tell the world how Jesus saved me,
03:09 and how He gave me a life brand new.
03:17 And I know that if you trust Him,
03:23 that all He gave me He'll give to you.
03:34 I'll tell the world that He's my Savior,
03:41 no other one could love me so.
03:48 My life, my all, is His forever,
03:55 and where He leads me I will go.
04:07 I'll tell the world Jesus is coming,
04:13 and it may be near or far, far away.
04:20 But we've got to live as if that coming
04:28 could be tomorrow or today.
04:35 For when He comes and life is over,
04:42 for those who love Him there's more to be.
04:50 Eyes have never seen the wonders
04:56 that He's preparing for you and me.
05:07 Go tell the world that you're a Christian,
05:14 don't be ashamed His name to bear.
05:21 Just tell the world that you are a Christian,
05:28 and take Him with you everywhere.
05:38 I'll tell the world how Jesus saved me,
05:46 and how He gave me a life brand new.
05:55 And I know that if you trust Him,
06:01 that all He gave to me He'll give to you.
06:12 I'll tell the world that I'm a Christian,
06:18 I'm not ashamed His name to bear.
06:25 I'll tell the world that I'm a Christian,
06:33 I'll take Him with me anywhere.
06:40 I'll take Him with me anywhere.
07:15 I want to pray again, so I'm just going to ask you to
07:18 join me as we do that.
07:25 Lord Jesus, I know I am insufficient.
07:30 And I am asking for You to distribute some loaves and
07:35 some fishes for us.
07:38 I remember when the disciples were there, that You said,
07:41 "Feed them," and they said, "We don't have anything."
07:44 And You, "Well, here.
07:47 We'll take this little boy's lunch and we'll distribute it.
07:50 Please Lord Jesus, hand out the loaves and fishes to us tonight.
07:54 Use me in any way that You can.
07:57 But may the message come from You.
08:00 And Lord, also would You just give us the ears and the eyes,
08:04 the spiritual eyesight, the glasses and the hearing aids
08:07 that we need spiritually to hear Your voice
08:10 speaking from this book, Your book.
08:13 I pray this in Your name, Lord Jesus, amen.
08:20 We are continuing to look for Jesus in the book of Revelation.
08:25 Looking for Jesus in His own book.
08:28 And tonight we're going to specifically look for Him
08:31 in a portion of the book that is known as the
08:35 three angels' portion.
08:38 The three angels' messages of Revelation 14.
08:41 Now traditionally, when Seventh-day Adventists
08:45 think about what are the three angel's messages
08:49 in Revelation 14, the traditional sort of
08:55 thought that comes to most of our minds
08:58 would be, first of all, a warning about the judgment
09:02 in verse 7, a plea to stay out of false churches in verse 8,
09:08 and an indictment of the beast in verse 9.
09:12 That's the typical way that we tend to unpack
09:15 these three angels.
09:16 But I am highly motivated to look for Jesus
09:22 in this message.
09:25 And in fact, over the years I have gathered an assortment...
09:30 In fact, I have more than fourteen of them.
09:33 ...of quotations from inspired commentators
09:37 that I write in the front of my Bible.
09:40 And they say things like this, "Never should any message
09:46 or any doctrine be preached or given that doesn't make Jesus
09:51 the heart and core and central pivotal theme."
09:54 So I'm thinking, let's try to do that with the three angels.
10:01 I already mentioned, if you ask most people what
10:04 they think of, let's take the first angel's message
10:06 for example, they would probably say, "The hour of God's
10:10 judgment is come."
10:12 That's the typical.
10:14 But is that really the message?
10:17 Is that really the message?
10:19 Revelation 14:6 says, "Then I saw another angel
10:23 flying in the midst of heaven..."
10:28 Now underline that word, "everlasting."
10:31 And then underline, "gospel."
10:43 So, the message is the everlasting gospel.
10:49 This angel is setting us up for the three messages
10:53 that are coming, see.
10:54 And he says it's the everlasting gospel.
10:56 Now, let me ask you a question.
11:02 What's the everlasting gospel?
11:06 What is it?
11:09 If it's to be given to every nation, every kindred,
11:13 every tongue, and every people, would that include Muslims?
11:19 Yeah.
11:20 Would that include Buddhists?
11:24 Yeah.
11:26 So what would be the message that we would need to take
11:28 to Muslims and Buddhists?
11:30 Watch out for judgment, stay out of false churches,
11:33 and beware of the beast?
11:35 What would Muslims and Buddhists do with that kind of a message?
11:39 Actually, that's not the message we're to take.
11:41 We're suppose to take the everlasting gospel.
11:45 That's the message.
11:46 So what is the everlasting gospel?
11:48 Revelation 14:7...
12:05 "For the hour of His judgment is come," is in the message.
12:09 It's there.
12:12 But it's not "the" message.
12:15 It's in it, but it's not "the" message.
12:18 It's only a part.
12:19 And I will suggest that it's a significant part,
12:21 but it's not "the" message.
12:26 For starters, we noticed a moment ago, and I told you
12:29 to underline it.
12:30 It's the everlasting gospel that we're to take to every
12:34 kindred, tongue, nation, and people.
12:38 Well is, "the hour of God's judgment,"
12:42 the everlasting gospel?
12:43 According to Daniel, the hour of God's judgment
12:46 began in the 1800's.
12:50 So now if something began in the 1800's,
12:53 it wouldn't be everlasting.
12:55 Right?
12:57 So it's going to have to be something other than
12:59 something that began in the 1800's.
13:04 What is the "everlasting" part of this message?
13:08 What is it?
13:09 Well in order to figure it out, my preacher father
13:15 decided to try and do something that you might remember
13:19 having to do when you were in elementary school.
13:22 Or maybe you did it in high school, I don't know where.
13:25 I kind of forget now where it was,
13:26 but it was diagramming sentences.
13:29 I did not look forward to that part of my education,
13:32 diagramming sentences.
13:33 And since having finished school, I still don't
13:38 look for opportunities to diagram sentences.
13:41 One of the things I've discovered is that when you
13:43 diagram a sentence, there seems to be about as many
13:46 interpretations of what would be a correct way to
13:48 diagram it as there are English professors.
13:51 And so you might think you did a good job,
13:53 and then there will be someone else that'll say,
13:55 "Well, no this is..." you know.
13:57 But anyway, so my dad decided to try and see if we could
14:00 make a little more sense of what the everlasting gospel is,
14:04 or the "everlasting" part of the message is,
14:06 by diagramming the sentence.
14:07 So we're going to try and give a graphic on the screen
14:10 to show you.
14:12 This is a compound sentence.
14:14 And part one of the message was, "Fear God."
14:20 Now if you were going to diagram that, what would the verb be?
14:25 The verb would be, "fear."
14:30 Are you getting on the screen?
14:31 Yeah you're getting it. Okay.
14:33 What would the object be?
14:35 "God."
14:37 Alright, so far we have the verb and we have the object.
14:41 But what is the subject.
14:46 The subject is actually not even in the verse.
14:50 The subject is what they would say is understood.
14:55 The subject is, "you."
14:58 "You." You fear God.
15:03 "You" are the subject.
15:04 Now let's go on to part 2 of the message.
15:07 It said, "Fear God," okay.
15:09 Part 2 is, "Give glory to Him."
15:12 Alright, so what's the subject?
15:15 "You."
15:17 What's the verb?
15:18 "Give."
15:20 What's the object?
15:22 "Glory." "Glory."
15:23 So where does the, "to Him," come in?
15:26 I guess I'd call it a prepositional phrase,
15:29 but maybe someone will tell me that's not right.
15:31 But anyway, for the sake of our diagram,
15:32 I put it as a prepositional phrase.
15:34 Alright?
15:35 But once again, you see the subject is, "you."
15:39 Understood.
15:41 Now let's come to the third part.
15:43 "Worship Him."
15:46 Alright.
15:47 The verb is, "worship."
15:49 The object is, "Him."
15:51 But what's the subject?
15:53 Once again it's, "you." It's understood.
15:56 Alright?
15:57 So now, after the "everlasting" part...
16:01 Because these are the "everlasting" parts.
16:04 After the "everlasting" parts, where does judgment fit in.
16:10 Well it sounds a little bit like a prepositional phrase;
16:15 "The hour of God's judgment is come."
16:16 Maybe.
16:20 My dad thought maybe it would be a prepositional phrase.
16:25 And he suggested that, a little bit unsure of himself
16:28 when he did, in a meeting.
16:31 And it was actually being held at the Pacific Press.
16:34 And the people who were workers at the Pacific Press
16:37 were there in the audience.
16:38 And he suggested that it may be a prepositional phrase.
16:41 But a book editor told him actually it wasn't.
16:45 "The hour of God's judgment" was actually an
16:47 adverbial clause, he said.
16:49 An adverbial clause.
16:50 Aren't you glad to know that?
16:51 Are you going to sleep better tonight knowing that it's
16:54 an adverbial clause?
16:56 My dad felt good knowing that he had this from an editor.
16:58 So the next time he was speaking on this subject,
17:01 he was actually speaking at Loma Linda University.
17:05 And he said that it was an adverbial clause
17:08 feeling that he was in, you know, that's he's going to
17:10 look a little more credible now.
17:12 But after that presentation, an English professor
17:15 from Loma Linda told him that it was not an adverbial clause.
17:19 She hated to disagree with the book editor from the
17:22 Pacific Press, but that it actually was a
17:24 conjunctive clause.
17:26 Well dad, you know, he wanted to do the right thing.
17:30 And he thought, "I suppose an English professor
17:32 has rank over a book editor."
17:34 And so, you know, the next time he presented on this subject,
17:38 he said, "The hour of God's judgment,"
17:41 feeling like he had some authority behind him now,
17:43 he said, "the hour of God's judgment," is a
17:45 conjunctive clause.
17:47 Well he was preaching that at Andrews University,
17:50 and a Greek professor caught him after the meeting
17:54 and said, "Actually, if you look at it in the original language,
17:57 the best way we could, what we'd call it,
18:00 it would be a causal clause."
18:03 "The hour of God's judgment," is a causal clause.
18:07 So in order to be safe tonight, because I don't want to run
18:10 the risk that my dad ran, I'm going to refer to,
18:14 "The hour of God's judgment," as a
18:16 causal adverbial conjunctive prepositional phrase clause.
18:21 Alright?
18:22 And that ought to cover it.
18:24 But what's the real point?
18:26 The real point is that, "The hour of God's judgment,"
18:30 is subsidiary to and not the main part of the message.
18:36 Okay?
18:37 It's not the main part.
18:40 It's subsidiary to the main message.
18:43 The main message is, "You fear God,"
18:47 "You give glory to Him," "You worship Him,"
18:51 "for the hour of His judgment is come."
18:54 See?
18:57 Well, this is a common thread.
19:02 And we're going to be unpacking the three angels looking for
19:04 Jesus in them in these next few presentations.
19:08 We're going to notice something that I'm going to draw your
19:11 attention to right now, and that is this;
19:12 there's a common thread in all three messages.
19:15 And that common thread is...
19:30 That's the common thread.
19:32 And you're going to see that common threat
19:35 going all the way through the angels' messages.
19:39 I'm told that the British Navy, in order to identify
19:42 the ropes that they use in their rigging, have a scarlet thread
19:46 that goes through the center of all of their braided rope.
19:48 And they can tell their rope in a heartbeat
19:51 because it's the rope with the scarlet thread going through it.
19:53 That belongs to the British Navy.
19:55 The thread going through the three angels' messages
19:58 is a warning against self worship or self dependence,
20:02 and an invitation to the deeper life of faith,
20:04 especially in the time of judgment.
20:05 So at this point I'd like to read three paragraphs
20:09 that were written to our church many years ago.
20:13 The first one comes from a manuscript, Manuscript 15.
20:18 It was written in 1888, and this is what it says.
20:36 "...but few, even of those who claim to understand it..."
20:41 Here's the second paragraph.
20:43 Testimonies, volume 5.
20:55 Wow.
20:57 And here comes the third one from the book called,
20:59 Evangelism, page 196.
21:20 Now let me ask you a question.
21:22 Is, "watch out for the beast," the only hope for a
21:26 perishing world?
21:28 Actually, it's not.
21:31 Towards the end of the nineteenth century there was
21:34 a group of people who got very excited
21:38 about the subject of Jesus and His righteousness,
21:42 and His matchless charms, and the privilege of having
21:46 a personal meaningful intimate ongoing relationship with Him.
21:52 They got very excited about that
21:54 back towards the end of the nineteenth century.
21:57 And they got so excited that there was another group...
22:02 Now I'm referring to some of the roots in history
22:05 of the church I belong to.
22:08 ...another group got nervous.
22:10 The old guard got nervous.
22:17 I would suggest to you that the old guard still gets nervous.
22:21 It hasn't changed, things haven't changed.
22:23 But the old guard got nervous with the focus on Jesus
22:26 and relationship.
22:27 They got nervous.
22:29 And they said, "We need to stick to our pillar doctrines."
22:33 And then they cited them.
22:34 They said, "We need to be preaching about the
22:36 seventh day Sabbath.
22:38 We need to be preaching about the condition of man in death.
22:41 We need to be preaching the 2300 day prophecy.
22:44 We need to be preaching the second coming of Christ.
22:46 We need to stick to our pillar doctrines."
22:50 They were nervous.
22:52 Well so many of the old guard wrote letters
22:57 to our church periodical expressing their concerns.
23:01 So many of them wrote letters that in the April 1st edition
23:10 of 1890 in our church periodical were penned these words
23:14 in response to the old guards concern.
23:19 "Several have written me inquiring..."
23:37 Now what does, "in verity," mean?
23:39 That would be another way of saying,
23:41 "You better believe it is."
23:44 That would be another way of saying,
23:46 "Is that the message? Oh, you bet it is."
23:50 "Absolutely, that's what it is."
23:54 Wow.
23:56 The third angel's message is the message of righteousness by
23:59 faith in Christ alone in verity.
24:04 Well how could we be so off base as to think
24:07 it was these other things?
24:10 Well maybe you're saying, "Were we really off base?
24:12 Maybe you're being a little bit hard on our pioneers.
24:17 Were we really off base?"
24:21 Well in that same journal, our church periodical,
24:26 September 3, 1889, these words were penned.
24:47 Not one in a what?
24:49 Not one in a hundred.
24:52 Understands what?
24:54 The message of justification by faith in Christ alone.
24:58 Not one in a hundred understand that.
24:59 Now just a moment ago, I read you from the same periodical
25:04 that the message of the three angels is the message
25:08 of justification by faith in Christ alone.
25:11 Just read that.
25:13 So now put these two together and use a little logic.
25:17 If it is true that justification by faith is the third angel's
25:22 message in verity, and if not one in a hundred
25:25 understand justification by faith, then the conclusion
25:29 would be that not one in a hundred understand the
25:32 three angels' messages.
25:36 And yet, it is the message of absolute and highest importance
25:43 for the world at the end of time.
25:44 I don't know if you're aware of this, but we've been told
25:46 that just before the end of time, just before Jesus comes,
25:49 during the closing scenes, this message is going to
25:52 swallow up ever other message and encircle the globe
25:56 like fire in stubble.
25:58 And yet, not one in a hundred understand it correctly.
26:02 Whoa, I'm glad those weren't my words.
26:05 Because someone might take a shot at me for saying that
26:07 if they thought it was my words.
26:11 Well you might say, "Yeah, well that was the nineteenth century,
26:14 end of the nineteenth century.
26:17 Sure glad we didn't live back then.
26:19 Sure glad we're enlightened."
26:25 Well I'm going to tell you something
26:27 about our enlightenment.
26:30 For the last five and a half years, my wife and I have
26:33 been fulltime Revivalists for the Upper Columbia Conference.
26:37 I believe that was mentioned just a few moments ago
26:39 in the introduction.
26:44 Next week we're going to be taking our "All About Jesus"
26:47 revival seminar to Kelowna British Columbia.
26:50 It will be the 100th church we've done the seminar at
26:53 since we started five and a half years ago.
26:57 Part of what we've done as we do the seminar is,
26:59 at the end we give a survey out.
27:02 It's anonymous, you don't sign your name or anything.
27:04 We ask five questions to help us understand
27:07 if we've scratched where it itched.
27:10 One of the questions, the very first question is,
27:13 "Please describe your personal spiritual life prior
27:17 to attending the "All About Jesus" revival seminar.
27:20 Then there are three choices for them to look at and circle one.
27:23 The first choice is, "Distant from God, disinterested in Him.
27:27 Fairly rebellious."
27:28 Okay, that's the first choice.
27:30 The second choice is, "Regular in church attendance,
27:33 but no daily time alone with Christ."
27:37 The third choice is, "Regular daily time with Jesus
27:42 and excited to share with others."
27:44 That's the third choice. Okay.
27:47 Now the people who would come to an "All About Jesus"
27:50 revival seminar would be the people who are
27:53 most interested in Jesus.
27:54 Right?
27:55 I mean, that's who would come to that kind of a seminar.
27:57 In any given church, the people who would come to that seminar
28:00 are the people most interested in Jesus.
28:03 I'm going to tell you what the cumulative average is.
28:05 We've taken the survey in large churches and small churches.
28:09 Churches with thousands of members, churches with
28:11 just 30 or 40 members, all over the country
28:14 and outside of the country around the world.
28:18 Alright, here's the answer.
28:21 70 to 80% of the people who attend...
28:28 ...circled B as their answer.
28:31 "Regular in church attendance, but little or no daily
28:35 time with Christ one on one."
28:41 What does that tell me?
28:44 The message of righteousness by faith in Christ alone
28:50 is about a personal relationship with Him.
28:54 That's what it's about.
28:56 It's about knowing Him as friend.
28:58 It's about communing with Him.
28:59 It's about becoming better acquainted with Him
29:01 on a daily basis.
29:02 It's about spending time in His Word.
29:03 It's about speaking to Him in prayer.
29:06 It's about sharing to others what you are learning
29:09 about this wonderful friendship that you are cultivating and
29:12 nurturing on a daily basis.
29:13 That's what it's all about.
29:15 It does not exist, righteousness by faith does not exist
29:18 outside of a relationship with Christ.
29:21 It's by faith in Christ.
29:23 So if 70 to 80% of the people who attend church
29:29 in this enlightened time that we live in
29:32 don't have a daily walk with Jesus,
29:36 then it would appear to me that they're still relevant, see.
29:41 When you're talking experiential now, not one in a hundred
29:47 understand for themselves the message of
29:49 justification by faith?
29:52 Wow.
29:53 Okay, so what is the message of justification by faith?
29:57 Testimonies to Ministers, "What is justification by faith...
30:12 Well how much can man do for himself?
30:17 Well let's just look to Jesus for the answer
30:20 on that one, shall we?
30:21 John 15:5, Jesus said...
30:33 He talks about abiding in Him.
30:35 And then He says, "Without Me, you can do nothing."
30:42 Wow, well how much is nothing?
30:45 Someone says, zero.
30:47 But actually you could say, nothing is what you have left
30:49 after you take the peeling off of a zero.
30:51 If you would peel a zero, what's left is nothing.
30:55 Nothing; Jesus said, "Without Me, you can do nothing."
30:57 Now many people like this other verse, Philippians 4:13.
31:00 They like this one a little better.
31:02 How does it read?
31:11 Now let's put those two together.
31:16 If without Him I can do nothing,
31:20 but with Him I can do all things,
31:26 then who's responsible for the "all things?"
31:31 Because see, when I'm by myself, zip.
31:34 When I'm with Him, all things. What does that mean?
31:37 It means somebody else is responsible
31:38 for the "all things," because when I'm without
31:40 Him there's nothing happening.
31:41 But with Him, everything is happening.
31:42 All things are happening. Alright.
31:44 So if He's the one responsible for the "all things," not me...
31:49 Just a moment ago, we noted that the message of
31:52 justification by faith is God doing for man what he
31:54 cannot do for himself.
31:55 Okay, if He's responsible for the "all things,"
31:58 then what would be my part?
31:59 What would be my part? What would be my job?
32:01 My part would be to get with Him,
32:06 and stay with Him, and nurture a relationship with Him.
32:10 That would be my part.
32:12 His part is the "all things," my part is getting with Him.
32:16 And it's not something that happens once a week.
32:18 It's something that happens on a daily basis.
32:20 It's not just showing up in church once a week
32:22 and singing a song or two, and saying,
32:24 "That was a fine program.
32:25 And I was fed, the pastor fed me well."
32:27 And I'm going to go home and I'm going to live
32:29 for a week on that meal.
32:30 And next week, I'll come back and get another helping."
32:33 No, it's not. It's a daily walk with Jesus.
32:35 Sitting in church once a week does not make me a Christian
32:40 any more than sitting in a garage makes me a car.
32:43 Right?
32:44 There's something more.
32:46 Something more.
32:49 Well, if He is the one responsible for the
32:53 "all things," then who would get the glory?
32:56 Jesus would.
32:57 Right?
32:58 He would get the glory.
33:00 And now you see how this starts to fit into the
33:02 three angels' messages.
33:04 Because it talked about giving Him glory.
33:07 Giving Him glory.
33:08 Let's look a little deeper at the three parts
33:11 that we had on that diagram.
33:12 Okay, the first one was, "Fear God."
33:14 What does this mean?
33:15 Well it means to hold Him in awe or reverence.
33:19 Nobody would ever hold Him in awe or reverence
33:22 who did not know Him.
33:24 See, if you don't know somebody...
33:29 ...they just look like anybody else.
33:32 But if you know them, and you happen to know something
33:36 about them that is awe inspiring, then you are in awe.
33:40 But you have to know them before you can be in awe.
33:43 My daughter, Lindsey, was travelling through the country
33:47 and she had to do a connection flight in Salt Lake City.
33:54 So she is walking to her concourse
34:00 looking to go to where she's going to get on the plane.
34:03 And as she's walking along...
34:09 ...she sees a woman walking by herself
34:12 just a little bit ahead of her.
34:15 And Lindsey passes this person, because she's in a hurry.
34:19 Lindsey is.
34:20 And as she passes the person she noted that she liked
34:23 something that the person was wearing.
34:24 So she looked back to take another look at the garment.
34:27 And as she looked back, she recognized the person.
34:30 Well you may or may not recognize her if you saw
34:32 her in public, but her name was Meg Ryan and she was an actress.
34:36 She's currently an actress.
34:38 She's a well known actress.
34:40 My daughter said, "As soon as I realized that was Meg Ryan,
34:43 I said to myself, I'm not going to go gaga over her.
34:47 I'm not going to go up and say, 'Are you Meg Ryan?'
34:49 I'm not going to ask for an autograph.
34:51 I'm not going to overwhelm her with her stardom.
34:54 I'm going to treat her with respect."
34:57 And so Lindsey said she did slow down.
34:59 Lindsey did slow down a little bit so that they kind of
35:01 started to catch back to the similar...
35:04 And they walked a little farther.
35:05 It turns out they were going to the same gate.
35:09 And just before Meg went to sit down,
35:12 Lindsey said to Meg, "I enjoyed one of the films I saw you in."
35:21 And Meg said, "Thank you, sweetie."
35:25 And then Meg put sunglasses on and pulled up her collar,
35:31 and sat down with a newspaper in front of her face,
35:34 waiting for the plane.
35:35 There were a group of young men about the age of the
35:38 kind of young men who would be interested in Meg Ryan
35:42 that were waiting also for the plane.
35:44 And they were sitting just behind her.
35:47 You know how sometimes chairs are back to back.
35:51 Meg sat there reading her article until they called
35:54 for the passengers to board, and then she stood up
35:57 and went in with first class.
35:59 And then my daughter turned to the guys and she said,
36:01 "Did you know that was Meg Ryan sitting behind you?"
36:05 And they went gaga.
36:07 And they said, "Are you kidding us?
36:09 That was Meg Ryan?"
36:10 "Yeah, it was Meg Ryan."
36:11 "Oh, we were sitting right here and we didn't even know.
36:14 We didn't even know."
36:16 Well see, when you don't know somebody,
36:19 you don't hold them in awe.
36:21 Now I'm not trying to compare Meg Ryan to God.
36:23 Please don't misunderstand.
36:24 That's not the point at all.
36:25 But the point here is that once they knew who it was,
36:29 it changed their attitude.
36:32 You're never going to fear God or hold Him in awe or reverence
36:38 if you don't know Him.
36:40 But as you come to know Him, you will be so humbled
36:43 and awed by who He is and who you are
36:46 that it will just be a natural thing to revere Him,
36:51 to hold Him in awe, to appreciate who He is.
36:55 And that He's inviting you into a friendship.
36:58 "You want to be friends with me?
37:01 Unbelievable."
37:02 It just takes your breath away.
37:05 Well the second phrase that we diagrammed was,
37:08 "Give glory to Him."
37:10 "Give glory to Him."
37:11 If I have not discovered that I cannot save myself,
37:14 if I am trying hard to work on living up
37:18 to the standards externally...
37:21 Now the previous presentation, yesterday's presentation,
37:26 the problem of Laodicea is that it focuses on externals.
37:31 Remember.
37:32 And Jesus said, "You need to have something changed
37:35 on the inside, because focusing on externals
37:38 is your problem, Laodicea."
37:40 That's your problem.
37:42 If I am still focusing on externals, if I'm focusing
37:46 on the standards, if I am focusing on them to the
37:49 exclusion of taking time alone with Christ...
37:52 Remember, 70 to 80% of the people attending churches
37:55 say in the survey, "I'm not taking daily time for Christ."
38:01 Then what's the conclusion?
38:04 The conclusion is, I'm depending on myself.
38:07 If you're living apart from Jesus except on the weekend,
38:10 you're depending on yourself.
38:14 And if I should happen to get saved one day,
38:16 guess who will get the glory for it?
38:19 Me. Me.
38:22 I'd get the glory.
38:23 It is so easy to grasp for glory.
38:29 The carnal heart grasps for glory as readily as the flower
38:35 turns towards the sun.
38:37 It's just something in us.
38:39 It is so easy to take the glory.
38:41 I was teaching Bible at a Seventh-day Adventist
38:44 high school back in the day when Jim Gilley's son, John,
38:47 was one of my students.
38:49 And I had a van that had been sitting in my driveway
38:52 for months without being used.
38:54 And I had a need to go into town one day between classes.
38:59 And I thought, I should take the van out just to get the bugs out
39:02 and make sure it still runs.
39:03 I should just use the van to do my errands.
39:04 So I jumped in the van, went to turn the ignition key on,
39:07 and it kind of went, urrr, urrr, urrr.
39:10 But then it started.
39:11 And then I thought, okay good.
39:12 It needs to be run, it needs to get a little charge in here.
39:14 This is good for it.
39:15 So I took it on down.
39:16 And the thing I was going to do, was I was going to make a
39:18 deposit in the bank.
39:20 So I drive into the teller place where you...
39:22 It's a drive through kind of thing, you know.
39:24 And it was one of those lanes where they have curbs
39:27 on each side of the lane.
39:28 So you know, once you're in the lane, you're there, you know.
39:31 And there's a line of cars behind me.
39:33 And I got all the way up to where the teller was.
39:36 And just as she slid the little box out to help me,
39:40 the car ran out of gas.
39:42 I hadn't even checked the gauge.
39:43 And it was out of gas.
39:45 I tried turning the ignition, and it went, urrr, urrr.
39:49 And I'm out of gas.
39:52 And the lady behind the glass said, "Can I help you?"
39:55 And I said, "I'm out of gas."
39:56 She said, "You came to the wrong station."
40:01 She said, "Can you push that out of the way?"
40:03 It was a 3/4 ton van.
40:05 But I got out and eventually I got it moved out of the way
40:08 so the rest of the people could come through.
40:10 I had to get back to class.
40:12 I was doing this in between classes.
40:14 And so I pushed the car out of the way, the van out of the way,
40:17 just a little bit, and I took off running two blocks
40:20 to where there was a gas station.
40:21 As I came running up, I said to this guy,
40:23 "I'm in a heap of trouble, man.
40:24 I have an appointment I have to get to, and I just
40:26 ran out of gas in a van that has been sitting for four months.
40:28 The battery is almost dead.
40:29 I'm not even sure that there's going to be enough
40:31 energy in that battery to pump the gas all the way forward.
40:33 But I need gas, I need it quick, and I don't have time.
40:35 Can you give me a gallon of gas?"
40:37 And so the guys like, you know, he's putting in
40:38 the gallon of gas.
40:40 I grab the gas can as he's giving it to me.
40:41 I start to turn around to run and he says, "Good luck."
40:44 I said, "I need it. Thanks."
40:46 And I raced back, I poured the gas in, I jump back in.
40:49 I'm thinking, "Man, I've got to get to class.
40:50 I've got to teach Bible. I've got to get back."
40:51 I turn on the ignition.
40:53 Well before I turn on the ignition, I say to myself,
40:54 "Now man, that battery is so low, and it has to pump gas
40:58 all the way from the back of the van all the way to the
41:00 front of the engine.
41:01 I don't know what's going to happen here.
41:02 I don't think it's going to be able to handle it.
41:04 I barely got it started."
41:05 And then all of a sudden, I thought, "Well you know what?
41:07 Why shouldn't I pray first."
41:09 So often we pray at the end.
41:11 People say, "Oh we tried everything.
41:12 There was nothing left to do but pray."
41:16 I thought, "Why don't I reverse that.
41:17 Why don't I pray at the beginning."
41:18 So I said, "Lord Jesus, You know the van's
41:22 out of gas and I just have the one gallon.
41:23 The battery is almost dead.
41:24 Now You know, Lord, I am trying to get back
41:27 to teach Bible class.
41:30 Did I mention I'm teaching Bible, Lord.
41:32 And I just wondered if You'd be willing to make sure
41:37 the car starts for me.
41:38 I need some sort of miracle here, so would You just do that
41:40 so I can get back to teach Bible and talk about You."
41:45 God probably smiled.
41:47 But I turned the key and it started instantly.
41:50 And it never even skipped a beat.
41:51 Never stalled or nothing.
41:52 I thought, wow.
41:53 I felt a little chill go down my spine.
41:55 Like, wow, God just did a miracle for me.
41:58 So I whip over to that service station and
41:59 give the guy his can back.
42:01 I said, "Quick, quick, quick.
42:02 I'm in a hurry because I've got to go teach a class.
42:04 Just put two dollars into the car."
42:06 That's back when you could get four or five
42:07 gallons for two bucks.
42:08 And I said, "Just put two bucks into the car,
42:10 and I've got to run."
42:11 So he pumps the two dollars in, the two bucks worth.
42:14 And then he says to me, "I thought you said
42:16 it wasn't going to start.
42:17 I thought you said the battery was dead
42:18 and you weren't going to start."
42:19 I said, "Well you know what?
42:21 I guess I just got lucky."
42:24 And then I hurried off to teach Bible class
42:27 and talk about the God you can depend on,
42:29 and the God whose glory...
42:35 ...we're supposed to be proclaiming.
42:37 See how easy it is to take the glory, take the credit?
42:41 I had a wonderful opportunity right there.
42:42 I could have said to him, "I don't know what you
42:44 think about prayer, buddy, but I just said a prayer.
42:46 And I believe God answered it, because that car
42:47 shouldn't have started."
42:48 That's all I would have had to say.
42:50 I wouldn't have to say to him, "Could I give you a
42:51 series of Bible studies, maybe 27 of them?
42:53 Would you like to meet once a week?
42:54 I could come to your house."
42:55 You know, I didn't have to say anything like that.
42:56 But no, I just took the easy route and I took credit.
42:59 I said, "Well I guess I just got lucky."
43:02 Oh, it's easy to take the glory that's not ours.
43:05 Romans 4:20, "Abraham..."
43:17 People who are strong in faith give glory to God.
43:23 They do not take the glory to themselves.
43:24 Oh, but it is so easy to give glory to the wrong people.
43:30 To give glory to the wrong person.
43:32 It is even easy in ecclesiastical circles.
43:35 I have been a pastor for more than 30 years.
43:38 And pastors go twice a year, traditionally,
43:41 to what they call, professional growth meetings.
43:44 And I was attending professional growth
43:46 meetings in one conference.
43:49 That would be a geographical domain or location
43:52 where we all worked as a group.
43:55 And I use to dread going to those
43:57 professional growth meetings.
43:58 I particularly dreaded them for one particular reason.
44:01 They would always focus on how many people had been baptized,
44:05 and how many you had baptized, and how many they had baptized.
44:09 And then they would call the person to the front
44:11 who had baptized the most people and they would present them
44:14 with a $150 Bible.
44:16 And then they would ask that person to tell all the
44:18 tricks of the trade and the secrets, and so on, that he
44:21 used to get that many people baptized.
44:23 And I would sit there at the back of that room
44:26 with all these other pastors feeling about this big.
44:30 The reason being that I just didn't seem to have those
44:33 kinds of numbers to report that other people reported.
44:36 And I'd just go away from these meetings feeling
44:39 discouraged and depressed like I didn't even belong in there.
44:42 "I shouldn't be a pastor.
44:43 I'm not pastor material.
44:44 I'm not getting the numbers.
44:46 I don't have this badge of success.
44:47 I can't quote and show pictures of the number of
44:50 people I baptized."
44:52 I use to sit in the back row with a guy named Dan,
44:54 another preacher.
44:56 He was a pastor to the Native Americans
44:59 in our conference.
45:01 And Dan and I would commiserate together.
45:03 Because he felt the same way I did.
45:05 He'd say, "When I go home from these meetings,
45:07 I'm always discouraged.
45:08 It always takes me a while to get back into the groove again
45:11 after coming to these meetings."
45:13 So you can imagine my surprise and Dan's surprise
45:16 when one day at those meetings our conference president said,
45:24 "The Bible is going to be given to Dan.
45:27 Pastor Dan.
45:28 Dan, would you come forward?"
45:30 Dan looked at me like...
45:34 I looked at him.
45:36 And Dan went forward scratching his head.
45:39 And the president said, "Probably some of you are
45:41 wondering how is it that we're giving it to Dan.
45:42 Is it a mistake here?
45:44 Not a mistake," he said.
45:45 "We decided to do it this time on per capita."
45:49 So he said, "You might not think that Dan had very many
45:52 people baptized in his area.
45:54 But based on the number of people he had to draw from,
45:58 he's the leader of the pack.
45:59 So Dan, here's the Bible."
46:01 And he hands the Bible to Dan.
46:02 And he says, "Dan, tell us a little bit about
46:04 your secret of success.
46:06 What are the things you do to make that happen?"
46:09 I will never forget what happened next.
46:11 Dan just stood there gulping, swallowing hard.
46:16 It was clear that he was having a hard time speaking.
46:19 And then he said, "Actually, Mr. President,
46:28 these meetings have just been a source of discouragement to me
46:31 every time I come.
46:33 And when I left the last time six months ago,
46:37 I was so discouraged that I thought of resigning from
46:39 the ministry because I just can't produce the numbers
46:42 that you measure as success."
46:44 He said, "In tears I knelt before God and I said,
46:47 'God, I can't do it. I don't know how to do it.
46:49 I try the things they say and it doesn't make any difference
46:51 with people I work with.'
46:54 In tears I said to Him, 'Lord Jesus, I think maybe
46:56 I'm not pastoral material.
46:59 So what I'm going to do for the next six months,
47:01 maybe before I just quit, is I'm just going to
47:04 tell people what Jesus means to me.
47:07 That's all I'm going to do.
47:08 I'm just going to tell people what Jesus means to me.
47:10 I'm just going to share what You are to me, Lord Jesus,
47:12 and I'm going to leave You in charge of whatever else happens.
47:15 And if I should still be in the ministry, well that's okay
47:17 with me if it's okay with You.
47:19 But I'm just going to do that, it's all I'm going to do.'"
47:20 And he's crying as he's saying this in front of all of us.
47:24 And he takes the Bible and he hands it back to the President.
47:27 And he says to him, "Mr. President,
47:30 you just gave the Bible to the wrong guy.
47:33 All the glory, if there's any, belongs to Jesus.
47:37 He did it all, I did nothing except tell people
47:41 what He means to me.
47:42 He gets all the glory."
47:44 Even in ecclesiastical circles we can get confused
47:48 about who gets the glory.
47:50 Michael Card, a Christian musician, song writer,
47:53 who loves to sing about Jesus and talk about Jesus,
47:56 was doing a concert in the Denver area in Colorado.
47:59 As he started his first song, which everybody recognized,
48:03 they began to applaud.
48:05 He stopped the song right in the middle of it,
48:08 and he said, "I know you all mean well,
48:11 and I'm sure that in your heart you're responding to your
48:13 love for Jesus and the message that the song
48:15 invokes in your heart, but would you please
48:17 not do that anymore.
48:18 Because when you applaud, I get confused about
48:21 who is Creator and who is creature.
48:23 And you do me a big favor if you wouldn't applaud.
48:26 It's too easy for me to take the glory that's not mine."
48:31 I admire Michael Card for that.
48:33 I admire him.
48:35 It is so easy to take the glory.
48:38 But there is no glory for the work of man in the gospel.
48:41 All the glory goes to Jesus.
48:43 Well what happens to man's glory?
48:45 Man's glory goes to the dust.
48:48 To the dust.
48:50 I read you that just a few moments ago.
48:52 "It is the work of God in laying the glory of man in the dust,
48:57 and doing for him what he cannot do for himself."
49:01 You know what?
49:02 They didn't like Jesus when He walked our planet.
49:05 And they didn't like Him because they didn't like this message.
49:11 They liked to blow trumpets prior to giving prayer
49:14 in public places.
49:15 They didn't want to admit that the Shekinah was gone.
49:22 But one woman figured it out.
49:26 And she named her son, Ichabod.
49:29 Which meant, the glory has departed.
49:33 Has departed.
49:34 Friends, when God's glory is absent,
49:37 man's glory rises to the top.
49:41 And we entertain ourselves with mutual admiration parties
49:46 where we talk about our successes.
49:49 Oh we've learned how to be clever with our words.
49:51 We say we give God all the glory, but we're really
49:53 telling people how much we have accomplished.
49:56 Ill disguised glory sessions.
50:00 When God's glory is absent, man's rises to the top.
50:03 But when God's glory rises to the top,
50:06 man's glory goes to the dust.
50:09 Remember John the Baptist?
50:11 Do you remember what he said to his disciples?
50:14 He said, "He must increase and I must decrease."
50:22 "Glory for me, to the dust.
50:24 To the dust."
50:26 "Oh, but what about a little glory, Lord?
50:29 Couldn't we have just a little bit?"
50:30 You know, achievers and self-made people love
50:33 to worship themselves.
50:35 And they don't like this message.
50:37 The people who have, you know, done it themselves,
50:42 they don't like this message.
50:43 They hate it.
50:44 "Couldn't we have a little? What about self-esteem?
50:46 You've got to have some sense of human worth and value,
50:48 a little self-esteem, Lord.
50:49 How about a little glory, just a little glory?"
50:50 1 Corinthians 5:6 says, "Your glory is not good..."
51:02 "Not even a little glory, Lord?
51:03 Not even a little glory?"
51:05 Which is why Paul said in Galatians 6:14...
51:14 There's only one place that glory is appropriate.
51:17 It's in Jesus.
51:18 I have a good friend, a pastor, in the Washington Conference.
51:21 His name is Bill Roberts.
51:23 You've probably heard other pastors pray this,
51:24 but every time Bill preaches, before he preaches he prays.
51:29 And he always says at the close of his prayer
51:32 before he says amen, he says, "And Lord Jesus,
51:35 we will be careful," he says, "to give all the glory to You.
51:41 Hide us behind the cross so that we give all the glory to Jesus."
51:48 So, "God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross
51:51 of our Lord Jesus Christ."
51:52 Ramses the Great, one of the Pharaohs of Egypt,
51:55 for years they thought he was the greatest Pharaoh
51:57 that ever ruled in Egypt.
51:59 The reason they thought this was because
52:01 one of the things that the Pharaohs did was they would
52:03 have objects made in their honor.
52:06 Statues and various monuments, and things, and pillars.
52:10 Obelisks and so on.
52:11 And then they would have their names engraved
52:14 across the bottom of whatever that object was.
52:17 And for years archeologists thought that Ramses the Great
52:22 was the greatest Pharaoh of all.
52:24 Because he had more monuments to his name than anybody else
52:29 of antiquity.
52:31 And then some clever archeology revealed something
52:36 that they hadn't noticed at first.
52:38 Actually, Ramses had just chiseled everybody else's
52:42 names off and then engraved his in the space that remained.
52:46 He took other people's monuments and took credit for himself.
52:50 He has become known since as the great Chiseler
52:54 rather than the greatest Pharaoh.
52:56 And perhaps the poet Shelley was thinking of him
52:59 when he wrote a poem about a toppled monument that he saw
53:04 in the deserts of Egypt.
53:06 The close of the poem that Shelley wrote goes like this,
53:10 "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings.
53:14 Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair.
53:18 Nothing beside remains.
53:21 Round the decay...the lone and level sands stretch far away."
53:28 "Look upon my works.
53:31 I am Ozymandias, king of kings."
53:36 Into the sand, into the dust; broken.
53:41 Contrast that to Charles T. Everson's beautiful thought.
53:43 "We live in a time when centuries are compressed
53:47 into a few short years.
53:48 The names of great men appear on the horizon,
53:52 flicker for a moment and then are lost forever
53:55 in a sea of forgetfulness.
53:57 But there is one name that grows brighter
53:59 with every passing year.
54:01 It is the name of Jesus."
54:04 The name of Jesus.
54:06 Well the third sentence we diagrammed said, "Worship Him."
54:08 If God is not being worshiped, man is the only other person
54:11 who is left to be worshiped.
54:12 If I do not know a daily relationship with Jesus,
54:15 if I'm not worshiping Him six days a week,
54:17 there's serious question as to whether I'm
54:20 worshiping Him on the weekend.
54:21 See, I'm worshiping myself all week long
54:24 because I have no time for Him.
54:25 Self-dependent people aren't worshiping God,
54:28 they're worshiping themselves on the weekend as well.
54:32 Well why should He be worshiped?
54:34 Revelation 15:3 tells us the reason for worshiping.
54:47 Oh, that's why we should worship Him.
54:51 He does good work.
54:53 He does great work.
54:56 Helen Steiner Rice, who writes many poems on hallmark cards
55:00 and others, she wrote this little message on a card
55:03 I was looking through one time as I stood there
55:06 in that section.
55:07 And it said these words, "Help me to always
55:10 remember the story that Thine is the kingdom,
55:14 the power, and the glory."
55:17 The glory.
55:20 Well the book, Testimonies to Ministers,
55:22 says, "All power is given into His hands," Jesus' hands...
55:53 What is the message?
55:54 Watch out for the beast?
55:56 No, the message is, draw close to Jesus.
56:02 Seek Jesus.
56:03 You worship Him, you give Him glory,
56:06 you bring Him praise, you spend time with Him.
56:09 You experience this wonderful gift of justification
56:13 by faith in Christ alone.
56:14 The message is that He has gifts, gifts, to give men.
56:21 Including His righteousness.
56:22 Including power to be an overcomer.
56:25 Obedience is the result of His work in me.
56:28 And He wants to give me that.
56:30 He says, "I give you My Sabbath as a sign
56:32 that I am the God who sanctifies you."
56:34 Sanctification has to do with obedience,
56:36 and Christ-like characters, and victory, and overcoming.
56:39 So that's the message.
56:41 "Come to Me," He says. "Come to Me."
56:44 What do you do to get a gift?
56:46 You come into the presence of the Giver.
56:47 You don't work for it, because if you work for it,
56:49 you would have earned it.
56:50 You come into the presence of the Giver.
56:51 Think, relationship with Christ.
56:53 And then you accept with gratitude what He has given.
56:57 And so Jeremiah says it right, "This is what the Lord says..."
57:14 Let's pray.
57:15 Lord Jesus, I want to know You better.
57:17 I want to see You not only in the three angels',
57:20 I want to see You morning by morning and day by day.
57:22 And I pray that for every person within the sound of my voice.
57:25 In Jesus' name, amen.


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