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Surviving Disappointment

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00:01 - At some point in your life, it is going to feel
00:03 like the world has suddenly turned completely against you
00:07 and it'll seem like people are turning on you
00:09 without any provocation.
00:11 Injustice is a very real part of human existence.
00:15 So the question is, how are you gonna deal with it
00:18 when it inevitably happens?
00:20 [soft music]
00:41 Over the course of a lifetime,
00:43 most of us build some kind of personal philosophy,
00:46 an intellectual model, to help us navigate
00:48 what appears to be a very chaotic world.
00:52 As different things happen to us
00:54 we make slight adjustments to that model,
00:56 so that it still makes sense,
00:58 much the way that a scientist might adjust a theory
01:01 to fit new emerging data.
01:04 And by the time you hit middle age or even before that,
01:07 most people's models appear to be rather baked in.
01:10 You're not too likely
01:12 to change your mind about things anymore
01:14 unless there's very compelling evidence to do so.
01:18 For the most part,
01:19 our self-made philosophy serve us pretty well.
01:22 We need some kind of framework to navigate life
01:25 but where the rubber really meets the road,
01:28 where you're going to find out if your model is good,
01:31 is in the home stretch.
01:32 When you find yourself days away from life's finish line
01:35 looking death in the eye,
01:38 is your worldview still going to sustain you?
01:41 That was the question faced by the Roman statesman,
01:44 Boethius, back in the early sixth century
01:47 when he suddenly found himself imprisoned
01:49 and condemned to die for crimes he did not commit.
01:53 The Western Roman Empire at that point
01:55 was already yesterday's news.
01:57 Romulus Augustulus, the last Western emperor,
02:00 had been deposed in 476 AD and in his place,
02:05 Gothic kings were ruling Italy from the city of Ravenna.
02:09 First, Odoacer who had removed the Western emperor
02:13 and then Theodoric the Great
02:15 who seized the Western throne
02:16 at the prompting of the Eastern emperor
02:19 who was trying to get him to stop attacking Constantinople.
02:24 The Gothic kings in the West did not consider themselves
02:27 to be the successors of the Roman emperors,
02:30 which was really obvious
02:32 when Odoacer actually sent the imperial crown and cloak
02:36 back to Constantinople
02:38 as a symbolic nod to their political supremacy.
02:41 He just wanted to be the king of Italy
02:44 and he was happy to be somewhat subservient to the emperor.
02:48 Now, in reality, there wasn't much subservience
02:51 but on paper that was kind of the idea.
02:54 Then, when Theodoric took the Western throne,
02:57 he adopted the same attitude,
02:59 an attitude of subservience to the East
03:02 but in his Senate,
03:04 there was a great deal of apprehension and suspicion
03:07 about the ambitions of Constantinople
03:10 to the point where rumors started to fly
03:12 that perhaps some of the senators in their midst were moles,
03:15 spies for the East in league with the emperor, Justin I.
03:17 spies for the East in league with the emperor, Justin I.
03:21 People's suspicions eventually landed on Boethius,
03:25 a rather well-heeled
03:26 and academically accomplished individual
03:29 who made it his purpose
03:30 to live a principled and ethical life.
03:34 The efforts of Boethius to be honest and transparent
03:36 were completely misunderstood by everybody
03:40 and he was accused of covering up a plot by traders
03:42 in their midst and Boethius was condemned to death.
03:47 It was during his time in prison
03:49 that he wrote his most famous book,
03:51 a book called "The Consolation of Philosophy",
03:55 which I must say is one of the most beautiful books
03:58 handed down to us from the ancient world.
04:00 It's part poetry and part prose, which makes it fun to read.
04:05 And it's a dialogue between Boethius
04:08 and a woman who is the personification of philosophy,
04:12 kind of the way that wisdom is personified as a woman
04:15 in the Bible's book of Proverbs.
04:19 This is a book that I would almost, almost,
04:23 put on the same shelf with the books of Job and Ecclesiastes
04:27 because it deals with the problem of suffering
04:30 and it does it really well.
04:32 And it forces you to examine your own priorities
04:35 and ask yourself if the way you've built your life
04:38 is going to be enough to sustain you
04:41 when you suddenly lose everything.
04:44 What good is your philosophy
04:46 if it can't help you when life gets hard?
04:49 Of course, it also raises political questions.
04:52 Things like, would you rather be right about things
04:54 or favored by people?
04:57 And the ultimate question raised in this book by Boethius
05:01 is about your worldview.
05:03 Is your understanding of the world
05:05 enough to carry you through the very worst that life
05:09 is eventually going to dump on you?
05:11 At the beginning of the volume, Boethius laments the fact
05:14 that wicked people seem to prosper.
05:17 Well, principled individuals like himself
05:20 were being punished all too severely.
05:23 Here's what he writes.
05:24 He says,
05:26 "For myself, I have been parted from my possessions,
05:29 "stripped of my offices, blackened in my reputation,
05:32 "and punished for the services I have rendered.
05:35 "By contrast, images appear before my eyes
05:37 "of criminals in their dens, wallowing in sensual joys,
05:42 "the most abandoned of them
05:43 "plotting renewed false accusations,
05:46 "while good men are prostrate with fear
05:49 "as they survey my danger."
05:52 If, for some reason,
05:53 you thought that corrupt governments were a new thing,
05:56 think again.
05:57 That problem is as old as civilization itself.
06:00 Boethius is thrown in prison for being a good man.
06:04 His honesty and his dedication to ethical conduct
06:07 has made him a threat to people
06:09 who hunger after things like prestige or power.
06:13 And the fact that Boethius
06:14 was condemned to death for being good
06:17 was driving other good people into silence.
06:22 What happened was completely unjust
06:25 and what's surprising to some people
06:26 is that the authors of the Bible
06:29 express pretty much the same sentiment.
06:32 I know that some people think
06:33 the Bible is nothing but a work of religious propaganda
06:36 designed to sell a religion
06:39 but this book is nothing of the sort.
06:41 I mean, listen to this passage
06:42 found over in the book of Psalms where it says,
06:46 "But as for me, my feet had almost stumbled;
06:49 "my steps had nearly slipped.
06:52 "For I was envious of the boastful,
06:53 "when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.
06:56 "For there are no pangs in their death,
06:59 "but their strength is firm.
07:00 "They are not in trouble as other men,
07:02 "nor are they plagued like other men."
07:06 The apparent lack of justice in our world
07:08 is a very old problem,
07:10 a problem that keeps a lot of good people awake at night.
07:14 What's the use of living well
07:16 if you never get to see a payoff?
07:18 That's one of the biggest questions asked
07:21 in "The Consolation of Philosophy".
07:23 Now, most of this book by Boethius
07:25 appeals to ancient classical learning.
07:28 It has all kinds of illusions
07:30 to pagan philosophers and historians,
07:32 which makes good sense.
07:34 I mean, Boethius had a classical education
07:38 but he was also a Christian
07:40 who tried to help heal the divide
07:42 between the bishops of Rome and Constantinople,
07:45 which perhaps didn't help the unfortunate perception
07:48 that he was trying to overthrow the West.
07:51 And, of course, some of the big questions he raised
07:54 are the same questions raised in the Bible.
07:57 Boethius cannot understand why his life is ending so badly.
07:59 Boethius cannot understand why his life is ending so badly.
08:05 And in that moment, he joins the likes of John the Baptist
08:06 who spent his life announcing the arrival of Messiah
08:11 but then died in Herod's prison
08:12 after condemning a wicked king's reprehensible behavior.
08:18 Now, in the time that you and I have together,
08:20 there's no way we could put a dent in this whole book,
08:22 so we're gonna have to touch down on a few little highlights
08:25 and make ourselves content with just that.
08:28 What Boethius is doing is trying to find order in a universe
08:32 when his world appears to be chaotic,
08:35 which is something that we all eventually do.
08:37 In his book, "Suspicious Minds",
08:40 Rob Brotherton describes an experiment
08:42 at the University of Amsterdam
08:44 where psychologists asked a group of people
08:46 to think about something that made them feel ambivalent.
08:51 And they were asked to sit at computers
08:52 and write out a list of pros and cons
08:54 for whatever subject they thought about.
08:57 When they were finished,
08:58 the computer was designed to spit out an error message
09:02 and they were told they had to do the whole thing again
09:04 but at a different terminal.
09:07 At that point, they were taken to a really messy cubicle
09:10 with a second computer.
09:12 And they were shown a series of abstract images,
09:15 a series of dots,
09:17 some of which contained real pictures of objects
09:20 and others that were simply random.
09:22 What they discovered was absolutely fascinating.
09:26 If the cubicle was messy, if it was a chaotic environment,
09:30 more people found patterns in those random dots
09:33 than those who took up the time to clean up the cubicle
09:36 before they did the test.
09:38 In other words,
09:40 something in our brains makes us crave order.
09:45 And if there isn't discernible order in our environment,
09:47 for some reason, our brains will manufacture it.
09:52 So, when your life suddenly falls apart,
09:55 there's something thing inside you that doesn't like it.
09:57 You instinctively know it's not supposed to be this way
10:00 and your brain goes looking for reasons.
10:04 And what sparks that, in my not so humble opinion,
10:08 is the drive we seem to have to go looking for God
10:11 when the world becomes a chaotic mess.
10:13 All right, we've got to take a break
10:15 but then I'll be right back after this.
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10:52 - In his famous book,
10:53 Boethius imagines Lady Philosophy coming to his prison cell
10:56 to discuss the suffering that he's going through.
11:00 And throughout the book,
11:02 Philosophy, this lady, gently applies more and more remedies
11:05 to correct his bad thinking,
11:07 telling him that she needs to go slowly
11:10 before she can give him the bitter medicine he really needs.
11:14 Early on, this is what she says.
11:16 "Now I know," she said, "the further cause of your sickness,
11:19 "and it is a very serious one.
11:21 "You have forgotten your own identity."
11:25 Now, that is probably the number one reason
11:27 I wanted to bring up this book to the show today
11:29 because it suggests that we suffer mentally
11:32 because we've forgotten who we are.
11:35 According to this, a great deal of mental anxiety
11:38 stems from adopting false beliefs
11:40 about the nature of the world
11:42 and then expecting the world to fit into your beliefs.
11:45 In Boethius' case, the problem was that he was all too happy
11:49 to accept the random movements of the wheel of fortune
11:52 when they moved in his favor.
11:54 He was happy with his pampered childhood.
11:57 He was happy to be an important statesman.
11:59 He was happy to have people go on and on
12:01 about this wonderful landmark speech he made
12:04 in front of the king.
12:06 He had a very good life
12:09 and he thought fortune would smile on him forever.
12:13 But when fortune suddenly shifted and his life fell apart,
12:16 he felt cheated.
12:18 More importantly,
12:19 his mental framework for living had just fallen apart.
12:22 Here's how he describes it.
12:25 "Fortune, in particular, her fawning friendship
12:27 "with those whom she intends to cheat,
12:30 "until the moment she unexpectedly abandons them,
12:34 "and leaves them reeling in agony beyond endurance.
12:37 "But if you recall what she is, her ways and her worth,
12:40 "you will realize that you neither had, nor have lost,
12:43 "anything of worth through your association with her...
12:47 "You think that Fortune has changed towards you,
12:49 "but you are mistaken.
12:51 "Her ways and her nature are always the same.
12:54 "What she has done is manifest towards you the fickleness
12:58 "which reflects her characteristic constancy."
13:01 In other words,
13:03 "What did you think was going to happen, Boethius?
13:05 "Everybody's life is chaotic.
13:07 "Did you really think
13:09 "you were the one exception to the rule?"
13:12 All of us have to deal with living in a place
13:14 that human beings thought they could manage without God.
13:18 And so, all of us succumb sooner or later
13:20 to the results of living as fallen human beings.
13:24 Because of the nature of our broken world,
13:26 even good people suffer.
13:29 Jesus himself expressed a similar thought
13:31 in the Sermon on the Mount.
13:33 "...for He", he said, that's God,
13:35 "makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good,
13:38 "and sends rain on the just and on the unjust."
13:42 You know, I think one of the things
13:44 I like best about the writings of Boethius
13:46 is just how honest he is.
13:49 When you read about the final days of Socrates
13:51 who was also condemned to death,
13:54 the whole thing seems a little surreal.
13:56 Plato makes Socrates seem happy,
13:59 as if being in prison and condemned to die
14:00 is the best thing that's ever happened to him.
14:03 It's not a typical experience for a real human being.
14:07 And you'll notice, by the way,
14:09 it wasn't the experience of Jesus
14:10 who begged his father in the Garden of Gethsemane
14:13 to let the cup of extreme suffering pass.
14:17 Honestly, I have trouble relating to somebody
14:19 who loves the thought of dying,
14:21 except maybe those few people
14:23 who are suffering so horrifically
14:25 that death would actually be welcome.
14:28 But aside from that, very few people want to die.
14:32 And Boethius is honest.
14:34 He's as human as you and I are.
14:35 And he raises the same questions we do
14:38 when life suddenly becomes hard.
14:40 Why, where is the justice?
14:43 How do we make sense out of this?
14:45 And at the end of the day, the really big question,
14:48 where is God when it hurts?
14:52 Now, one of the most important ideas this guy brings up
14:55 is the notion of lowering your expectations.
14:58 If you don't go through life
15:00 expecting nothing but sunshine and roses,
15:02 it doesn't hurt quite as badly
15:03 when your personal fortune takes a nose-dive.
15:07 "If you sow seeds in your fields", Boethius writes,
15:09 "you must balance the barren years
15:11 "against the fruitful harvests."
15:13 That's pretty good advice.
15:16 It's easy to believe when times are tough
15:18 that the universe has turned against you
15:20 but that's only because we quickly forget
15:22 how good we've had it otherwise.
15:25 And it's also because we've been living under the illusion
15:27 that we actually own stuff,
15:29 which brings me to one of my favorite parts of this book.
15:33 I mean, listen to this.
15:34 This is Lady Philosophy talking to Boethius.
15:37 She says,
15:38 "When nature brought you forth from your mother's womb,
15:40 "I adopted you;
15:42 "you were naked then, and bereft of everything.
15:45 "I nurtured you with my resources,
15:46 "and, this is what now makes you so angry with me,
15:50 "I bent over backwards to spoil you,
15:52 "and to give you a pampered upbringing.
15:54 "I hedged you round with the glittering panoply
15:57 "of all those riches rightfully mine.
16:00 "It now suits me to withdraw my gifts.
16:02 "You owe me a debt of gratitude
16:04 "for having enjoyed possessions not your own;
16:07 "you have no right to complain
16:08 "as if you have lost what was indisputably yours.
16:12 "So why moan and grow?
16:13 "I have not laid violent hands on you.
16:16 "Wealth and position
16:17 "and all such things are at my discretion.
16:19 "These handmaids of mine acknowledge their mistress;
16:22 "they come with me, and they retire when I depart.
16:25 "I can assert with confidence
16:27 "that if those possessions whose loss you lament
16:29 "had really been yours,
16:32 "you would certainly not have lost them."
16:34 In other words,
16:35 the only reason we feel lost when life becomes unfair
16:38 is because we were living under an illusion
16:41 that this broken world owes us something,
16:43 that we actually own stuff.
16:47 It reminds me of the story that Jesus told of a rich man
16:49 who was living under the illusion
16:50 that his possessions gave him personal meaning.
16:53 It's found over in Luke 12 where Jesus says this.
17:00 "Then he spoke a parable to them, saying:
17:01 "The ground of a certain rich man yielded plentifully.
17:04 "And he thought within himself saying,
17:05 "What shall I do, since I have no room to store my crops?
17:09 "So he said, I will do this:
17:11 "I will pull down my barns and build greater,
17:13 "and there I will store all my crops and my goods.
17:16 "And I will say to my soul,
17:18 "Soul, you have many goods laid up for many years;
17:21 "take your ease; eat, drink, and be merry.
17:24 But God said to him,
17:26 "Fool! This night your soul will be required of you;
17:28 "then whose will those things be which you have provided?"
17:31 In other words, your stuff's going to somebody else.
17:35 It continues.
17:36 "So is he who lays up treasure for himself,
17:39 "and is not rich toward God."
17:42 Here's the problem that Jesus describes.
17:44 If you think your stuff is the meaning of your life,
17:47 then you have no meaning when your stuff is suddenly gone.
17:50 And someday, trust me, your stuff will be gone.
17:54 If you think that accolades and fame
17:57 are the meaning of life, then your life becomes meaningless
17:59 when the world stops applauding.
18:01 And believe me, it will.
18:04 Half a day on social media
18:06 will teach you how fickle celebrity can actually be.
18:09 At some point, everything you own,
18:11 everything you've accomplished,
18:13 everything that people praise you for,
18:15 it's going to be gone.
18:17 And then what?
18:18 At that point, what does your life really mean?
18:22 "Take heed and beware of covetousness", Jesus warned,
18:25 "for one's life does not consist
18:27 "in the abundance of the things he possesses."
18:31 In the story that Boethius tells,
18:33 Philosophy promises to give back everything
18:35 if he can rightfully claim it belongs to him.
18:39 And, of course, he can't
18:40 because even though you and I have title deeds
18:43 and receipts to prove ownership in this life,
18:46 none of us actually owns anything.
18:48 I mean, you can lay your hands on it,
18:49 you can claim exclusive use for one lifetime,
18:53 but there's an undefeatable clock on the wall
18:55 that says nothing is actually yours.
18:58 And unless you understand that,
19:00 losing everything is going to be very painful.
19:03 So, the Bible presents another well-heeled, wealthy man
19:06 who suddenly loses everything very unjustly
19:09 and here's what he says.
19:12 "Then Job arose, tore his robe, and shaved his head;
19:16 "and he fell to the ground and worshiped.
19:17 "And he said: Naked I came from my mother's womb,
19:21 "and naked shall I return there.
19:23 "The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away;
19:25 "Blessed be the name of the Lord."
19:28 In all this Job did not sin nor charge God with wrong.
19:34 This guy understood that he owned nothing,
19:36 which gave him the grace
19:37 and the peace of mind under pressure
19:40 to acknowledge that God had not done him wrong
19:42 at the very worst moment of his life.
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20:20 - There's an important passage in Ecclesiastes
20:22 that has the potential
20:24 to grant you peace of mind even in chaos.
20:26 It's in chapter five.
20:28 It says, "There is a severe evil
20:30 "which I have seen under the sun:
20:32 "Riches kept for their owner to his hurt.
20:34 "But those riches perish through misfortune,
20:37 "when he begets a son, there is nothing in his hand.
20:40 "As he came from his mother's womb,
20:42 "naked shall he return, to go as he came;
20:44 "and he shall take nothing from his labor
20:46 "which he may carry away in his hand."
20:50 This is one of the biggest themes you'll find in Boethius.
20:52 He finally understands
20:53 that nothing actually belonged to him.
20:56 He might have used pagan philosophers to make that point
20:58 but he was also a Christian and I virtually guarantee
21:01 he knew about this passage in the book of Ecclesiastes.
21:05 Boethius was treated unjustly,
21:07 robbed of all his accomplishments,
21:09 his name dragged through the mud without mercy,
21:13 and now he's going to die.
21:14 And he suddenly realizes that people who have it very good
21:18 are ill-equipped to deal with hardship.
21:20 He writes these words.
21:22 "...the most fortunate people are also the most squeamish;
21:26 "being unused to any hardship,
21:27 "unless everything comes to them on the nod
21:30 "they are floored by the slightest difficulties."
21:34 Now you tell me that's not a description of our generation.
21:37 Never has anybody had it so good.
21:40 Even our poorest people here in the West now live better,
21:43 more conveniently than at any time in the world's history.
21:46 I mean, that's not to say there are no problems
21:48 because there are but our problems are smaller
21:53 than the stuff our ancestors dealt with.
21:55 And yet somehow we see
21:57 more prone to dissatisfaction and complaint
21:59 because we've come to believe that fortune will always smile
22:03 and that the world owes us something.
22:06 I'll take, for example, the recent pandemic
22:08 where people started to treat little things
22:10 as if they were grave injustices.
22:12 Think about public health orders like wearing a mask.
22:16 Whether or not you believe those work
22:18 is completely beside the point.
22:20 What I want you to notice is how little it took
22:23 to make us complain
22:25 and feel as if the universe was against us.
22:27 By contrast, a lot of our grandparents suffered unimaginably
22:31 in the muddy trenches of Europe.
22:33 And I don't ever remember my relatives
22:36 grumbling about the brutal conditions of the labor camps.
22:40 Not even once.
22:42 It's a matter of perspective
22:43 and that's where Boethius really shines,
22:45 at least in my opinion.
22:47 "If as a traveler on life's path
22:49 "you had first set out with empty pockets", he writes,
22:52 "you could face the highwayman with a song on your lips."
22:56 You know, all of us exchange our lives for something.
22:58 For most of us that's money,
23:00 which is really just a form of congealed life.
23:02 You exchange your hours for pay
23:04 which hopefully accumulates in the bank.
23:08 And if somebody takes that away from you,
23:09 it feels as if they've stolen your life.
23:12 But if you remember that you've always been naked,
23:14 that you don't really own anything,
23:16 that might really help when bad times come.
23:20 In the Bible, we have the example of Christ
23:22 who abandoned all the glories of heaven
23:24 to become a regular human being,
23:27 to the point where he dies with absolutely nothing,
23:30 naked on a cross.
23:34 That's the example that God sets in front of us.
23:36 And the book of Hebrews says that Jesus did that
23:38 "...for the joy that was set before Him."
23:42 Could it really be that the path to joy is self-denial?
23:46 I know that doesn't seem to make sense
23:48 but what if it's true?
23:50 Let me read you just one more passage from Boethius
23:53 where he really cuts to the heart of the matter.
23:56 This is Lady Philosophy asking him a really tough question.
24:00 She says, "Have you men no resources within you
24:04 "that you call your own, seeing that you seek your goods
24:07 "in things external and distinct from you?
24:10 "Has the world become so topsy-turvy that a living creature,
24:13 "whom the gift of reason makes divine,
24:16 "believes that his glory
24:17 "lies solely in possession of lifeless goods?
24:21 "Other creatures are content with what they have;
24:24 "but you, who are godlike with your gift of mind,
24:27 "seek to embellish your surpassing nature
24:29 "with the grubbiest of things,
24:31 "and in so doing you fail to appreciate
24:33 "what an insult you inflict on your Creator.
24:37 "He sought to make the race of men
24:38 "superior to all earthly things,
24:40 "but you have subordinated your dignity
24:43 "to the lowliest objects."
24:46 So, if you think about what this means,
24:48 if you find your worth in things,
24:51 what does that actually say about you?
24:54 I mean, here we are at the apex of creation
24:56 made in God's image
24:58 and we try to determine our worth by counting our things?
25:01 It doesn't make sense.
25:03 In fact, what you're saying is that the trinkets you own
25:05 are worth more than you,
25:08 and that's a completely backward view of human nature.
25:12 I'll be right back after this.
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25:47 - Boethius says that making worldly things
25:49 the measure of your worth
25:50 is gonna leave you bitter and broken.
25:53 He writes, "How rampant is this error
25:55 "entertained by you humans
25:57 "in thinking that anything can be enhanced
25:58 "by external adornment?"
26:01 It's the same principle you find
26:02 in the opening chapter of Romans
26:04 where Paul describes our biggest problem like this.
26:06 He says, "Professing to be wise, they became fools,
26:11 "and changed the glory of the incorruptible God
26:14 "into an image made like corruptible man,
26:17 "and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things."
26:22 What we've done is turn our attention away
26:25 from the actual center of our being, away from our creator,
26:29 and we've put our emphasis on stuff.
26:32 Paul is talking about idolatry here in Romans,
26:35 the worship of mere creations.
26:38 And in a way, that's what we're doing
26:39 when we find our worth in good fortune.
26:42 But what the Bible teaches
26:44 is that your worth does not depend on what happens to you.
26:47 I mean, this world even turned on the Son of God.
26:51 And at that point,
26:53 the most important thing in the world is to know for sure,
26:56 as it says in the book of Acts,
26:57 "...in Him we live and move and have our being."
27:03 Naked you were born and naked you will die.
27:06 And in between those two points,
27:08 you and I, it turns out, were really naked all along.
27:11 You know, historically speaking,
27:13 there's a very long list of Christians
27:15 who went to unjust deaths
27:18 but they had a smile on their faces.
27:20 And you've got to wonder
27:21 what exactly they found in this book.
27:25 Maybe, maybe it's time to give this book another look
27:29 because we're all going to face hardship
27:31 and we're all going to die.
27:33 And what's in your heart and mind when that moment comes,
27:38 well, it's gonna make all the difference in the world.
27:41 Thanks for joining me, I'm Shawn Boonstra.
27:43 This has been "Authentic".
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