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In Pursuit of Justice

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00:01 - You know, it doesn't take much living
00:02 to recognize there's something
00:03 really wrong with this place.
00:06 And it really leaves you wondering if there's any hope
00:08 that somebody's ever going to set the universe right.
00:11 [heartfelt music]
00:32 They say that life is short,
00:34 and the more I find myself inching toward the finish line,
00:37 the more I tend to agree with that sentiment.
00:40 In fact, from where I sit right now,
00:42 the finish line seems painfully close,
00:45 even though it feels like I was a little kid
00:47 just a few days ago.
00:49 In fact, I remember my kindergarten career,
00:51 like it was yesterday.
00:53 I was living in a tiny northern British Columbia town,
00:55 tucked away behind the Alaska panhandle,
00:58 a tiny community that had a considerable number
01:00 of Dutch immigrants.
01:02 And I went to kindergarten at Walnut Park Elementary.
01:05 I was the only boy in my carpool, and back in those days,
01:08 the boys and girls would line up
01:10 at different school entrances every morning,
01:13 waiting to be let inside.
01:15 Now, given that I was shy,
01:16 I didn't know any of the boys,
01:18 during that first week of kindergarten,
01:20 I lined up with the kids I actually knew,
01:22 the girls from my carpool,
01:24 until the teachers found me there
01:25 and sent me around to the other side of the building
01:27 to go and stand with the rest of the boys.
01:32 But you know, maybe the most vivid memory I have
01:34 is the day that my teacher confiscated my comic book.
01:38 It was a special Robin Hood Digest,
01:41 the Disney version of Robin Hood,
01:42 where the characters were all animals.
01:45 Robin Hood was a fox, and Little John was a bear.
01:48 And I guess one day my class assignment was so boring,
01:51 I pulled this comic book out, and I started to read,
01:54 and that's when the teacher confiscated it,
01:57 and I never got it back.
02:00 And I've gotta tell you,
02:01 that little incident bothered me for the next five decades.
02:05 I know it seems like a small thing, a 50 cent comic book,
02:08 but it felt like a grave miscarriage of justice.
02:12 Now, I realize I probably had it coming.
02:14 I mean, I was that kid who was always busy doing something
02:18 other than what you were told to do,
02:20 you know, not doing what the teacher asked,
02:22 talking to my neighbor, daydreaming,
02:24 doodling on the edges of my notebook,
02:26 or just plain being disgruntled
02:28 about spending the bulk of my day
02:30 the way someone else thought I should.
02:32 And the problem wasn't that I wasn't interested in education
02:35 because I was, and I still am to this day.
02:38 I think for me,
02:40 the problem was having somebody else set my agenda.
02:44 Now, of course, when we're five,
02:46 most of us need to be told what to learn
02:48 because we have no idea what the world is like,
02:51 or what we're going to need
02:52 in order to become successful adults.
02:55 In fact, I somehow doubt that most of us
02:58 really know what we need until well into adulthood
03:00 when we're actually faced with the reality of life.
03:04 But now back to the comic book,
03:07 having it taken from me really bothered me
03:09 for the next 50 years.
03:11 And that's when it occurred to me
03:13 that the world is a very big place,
03:15 which means that somebody
03:17 probably had a copy of that same comic for sale on eBay.
03:21 So I hunted for it, and sure enough,
03:25 for eight bucks I found it the other day,
03:27 and it came in the mail.
03:29 I was so excited that I posted a picture of this comic
03:32 in a private online forum that I have for my friends,
03:35 and that's when my cousin's wife suddenly says,
03:38 oh man, I understand your pain.
03:40 Back in the first grade,
03:41 I had my lunchbox stolen,
03:43 and I had to brown bag it from that point forward.
03:46 So I went back to eBay, and I hunted for her lunchbox,
03:50 and sure enough, it was there.
03:52 And you know, I should probably ask eBay
03:54 to sponsor this show because now I'm guessing some of you
03:57 are about to start hunting
03:58 for your missing childhood treasures.
04:00 So eBay, maybe you should cough up a little cash,
04:04 because I'm not gonna endorse you for nothing.
04:07 But again, back to my comic book,
04:10 because there's an important reason I'm bringing this up.
04:13 What exactly drives our sense of justice?
04:17 I know this is gonna sound silly,
04:18 but the day this comic book arrived in the mail,
04:21 I felt like a deep injustice had been made right,
04:24 and that somehow the universe was back in balance again.
04:28 I know, it's just a 50 cent item,
04:31 and if I lost it myself,
04:32 it probably wouldn't have bothered me,
04:34 but it was taken from me at the tender age of five,
04:38 and this was easily one of my most prized possessions.
04:42 So why is it that losing this comic
04:45 bothered me for so many years?
04:46 Why is it after the age of 50
04:49 that I can still look back to that story,
04:52 and still feel this raw sense of indignation?
04:56 Where exactly do we get the idea
04:58 that wrongs need to be righted,
05:00 or that people owe us something
05:02 when they transgress our personal boundaries?
05:04 I mean, where exactly did I get this idea
05:07 that my teacher owed me something?
05:10 It's not like we all take a class when we're three-years-old
05:12 explaining the rules of social conduct, and social justice.
05:16 We just seem to be aware of it naturally.
05:21 Of course, our parents do a lot to help create that instinct
05:23 because the process of discipline
05:26 begins the moment we're born.
05:28 For example, there comes a point where a baby realizes
05:30 that if he cries in the night, he gets held by his mother.
05:34 And at some point the parents get tired of doing that.
05:38 So the next time they check on the baby,
05:40 if there's nothing wrong, no dirty diaper,
05:42 no need to be fed, they don't pick him up.
05:45 And eventually the baby learns
05:47 that you're not allowed to manipulate people.
05:50 So there's no doubt that we begin learning
05:52 the rules of social conduct at a really, really young age.
05:58 But still,
05:59 most people seem to have this ingrained sense of justice
06:02 that runs deeper than that.
06:04 Some of it probably stems from the fact
06:06 that we're wired for survival,
06:08 and the only perspective that most of us have in this world
06:11 is a selfish perspective.
06:13 We wanna accumulate enough resources
06:15 to guarantee our own personal wellbeing.
06:19 And when somebody takes some of our resources from us,
06:22 it rubs our fur the wrong way, we feel hard done by.
06:27 But again, I think there's something deeper than that
06:29 because it also bothers us when we see somebody else
06:33 being served a large helping of injustice.
06:36 We read stories about people who get cheated,
06:39 and it upsets us.
06:40 We hear stories about people who were murdered,
06:42 or robbed, or publicly embarrassed,
06:44 and well, it really gets our goat.
06:47 And of course, social scientists have expended
06:49 considerable effort trying to explain that.
06:52 And philosophers like Thomas Hobbs
06:55 have written massive tones
06:57 about the nature of social contracts,
06:59 explaining that we'd probably live
07:01 in a constant state of war with each other
07:03 if we didn't create binding rules
07:05 that help us live together peaceably.
07:08 And all of that makes sense, it really does,
07:11 but I still think there's something deeper at play
07:13 when it comes to our inborn sense of justice.
07:17 You know, lately I've been reading a lot of ancient history
07:20 about the Northern Germanic peoples, the so-called Vikings.
07:23 And one of the things that keeps coming up
07:25 over and over and over
07:27 is the fact that a lot of their social values
07:29 centered on the concept of revenge.
07:33 A thousand years ago or more, the family unit
07:35 was the most important element of their society,
07:38 and kinship was a really, really important concept.
07:42 If somebody cheated one of your family members,
07:44 or killed them, it was up to you to make that right.
07:48 It wasn't good enough to just let bygones be bygones,
07:51 you had to make it right.
07:53 And that's a concept you actually find in the Bible
07:55 where it was assumed that if you killed somebody,
07:58 you could expect their family members
08:00 to come and seek revenge.
08:02 But if it was an accident,
08:04 there were several cities of refuge where you could go,
08:07 and nobody could touch you,
08:09 at least not until there had been an inquiry
08:11 to determine whether or not your actions were premeditated.
08:15 So we have this widespread recognition
08:17 that there's a huge difference
08:19 between deliberately planning to kill someone,
08:22 and doing it by accident.
08:24 And that still makes sense to most of us.
08:27 And now I've managed to accidentally kill enough time
08:30 that we've got to take a break,
08:32 so I'll be right back after this.
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09:07 - Just before the break,
09:08 I was talking about our notions of justice,
09:11 and the way the ancient biblical world
09:13 provided for some nuance.
09:15 And I was talking about the biblical cities of refuge.
09:18 Here's the actual passage now,
09:20 as it's found in the book of Exodus, it says,
09:23 "He who strikes a man so that he dies
09:25 "shall surely be put to death.
09:27 "However, if he did not lie in wait,
09:29 "but God delivered him into his hand,
09:31 "then I will appoint for you a place where he may flee."
09:35 Now, you may not be of the persuasion
09:38 that capital punishment is ever right,
09:41 but just put that aside for one moment,
09:43 and consider the way this passage
09:45 just differentiates between various kinds of murder.
09:49 If you killed somebody on purpose,
09:51 it was considered a far more serious crime.
09:53 But if it was accidental,
09:55 the Bible provided for a cooling off period,
09:57 it pushed the pause button
09:59 until the facts could be examined.
10:01 And really this is something we still do today.
10:04 Our legal system still draws a huge difference
10:07 between murder one and manslaughter.
10:11 You'll notice the penalties are generally different.
10:14 And there's something about that
10:16 that appeals to our inborn sense of justice.
10:19 We all seem to know that intent behind an action matters,
10:25 and this is something you'll find
10:26 across a huge number of cultures.
10:27 And of course, you've gotta wonder why.
10:30 Here in the western world our notions of justice
10:32 owe a lot to the Greek philosopher Aristotle,
10:35 who spent a lot of time considering
10:37 what is considered to be fair and equal.
10:40 In the Nicomachean Ethics,
10:42 Aristotle divides the concept of justice
10:45 into distributive justice,
10:46 which deals with how people get their fair share,
10:49 and rectificatory justice,
10:51 which deals with making wrong things right.
10:55 And as you read through his material,
10:56 you quickly discover that a single
10:58 universal notion of justice is really hard to define.
11:03 How do you know what's fair?
11:05 How exactly do you determine
11:07 if justice has been proportional?
11:10 He writes a lot of pages wrestling with questions
11:12 we still continue to struggle with to this day.
11:15 And if you've ever spent any time reading Aristotle,
11:19 you'll know that he's very concerned
11:21 with things like categories and definitions,
11:24 and that can make the reading
11:25 more than a little bit tedious.
11:27 And I suppose I'll leave the finer nuances
11:29 of Aristotle's arguments to judges and lawyers,
11:32 because what I actually want to do today
11:35 is drill down deeper and figure out
11:37 why we care about justice in the first place.
11:41 And maybe the best place to turn
11:43 is one of the oldest books in the world, the book of Job.
11:47 What we find in this book is a righteous man
11:49 who endures an awful lot of wrong.
11:51 And as the book first opens,
11:53 the reader is the only one
11:55 who knows what's actually going on.
11:57 There's a controversy in heaven,
11:59 and it spills over into Job's life.
12:02 Let's just read a little bit from the opening chapter.
12:05 It says,
12:06 "There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was Job,
12:10 "and that man was blameless and upright,
12:12 "and one who feared God and shunned evil."
12:15 So we're starting with a blameless and upright man,
12:18 and somehow we instinctively know
12:20 that if bad things happen to a guy like this,
12:23 well that's not right.
12:25 It's a miscarriage of justice.
12:27 Somehow we know that good people don't deserve bad things,
12:31 and thus, the next 40 chapters really bother us
12:35 because Job's life just begins to fall apart.
12:38 And what happens behind the scenes is this,
12:41 the devil appears in a heavenly council,
12:44 and he proudly declares that this earth belongs to him.
12:48 That's what it means when the story tells us
12:50 that Satan has been going to and fro on the earth,
12:52 and walking back and forth on it.
12:54 He's publicly declaring ownership of this planet,
12:58 which is theologically accurate
13:00 because according to the biblical story,
13:02 the human race actually seeded dominion
13:05 over this planet to him.
13:08 And that's a key concept
13:09 when it comes to the Bible's sense of justice.
13:12 While you and I might choose to believe
13:14 that we're all innocent victims,
13:16 the Bible underlines a corporate sense of guilt for us.
13:19 None of us, no human being is actually completely innocent.
13:23 And if you look at the opening verses of this book,
13:25 you'll see that Job instinctively understands that.
13:29 It says in chapter one, back in verses four and five,
13:32 "And his sons would go and feast in their houses
13:35 "each on his appointed day,
13:36 "and would send and invite their three sisters
13:38 "to eat and drink with them.
13:40 "So it was when the days of feasting had run their course,
13:43 "that Job would send and sanctify them,
13:45 "and he would rise early in the morning,
13:47 "and offer burnt offerings
13:48 "according to the number of them all.
13:50 "For Job said,
13:52 "'It may be that my sons have sinned
13:54 "'and cursed God in their hearts.'
13:55 "Thus Job did regularly."
13:58 So what exactly does Job instinctively understand?
14:02 He understands that everybody is sinful.
14:04 Absolutely everybody.
14:07 All of us, according to the book of Romans,
14:08 have fallen short of the glory of God.
14:10 We are faulty and imperfect.
14:13 And one of the biggest problems we have
14:15 is that we appear to be oblivious to that fact.
14:18 When we look at the world from our own perspective,
14:20 we can easily point out the faults of everybody else,
14:23 their injustices seem really obvious.
14:27 But somehow when it comes to our own sins,
14:30 well, they just don't seem that bad.
14:33 So it becomes hard for most of us to believe
14:35 that we might actually be part of the problem,
14:38 we are also agents of injustice.
14:42 And I can't begin to tell you
14:43 how many times I've talked to people from my past,
14:46 and they suddenly bring up some small incident
14:49 that really didn't make a a deep impression on me,
14:52 but it certainly made an impression on them.
14:55 "When you decided to do such and such,"
14:57 someone once asked me,
14:59 "was that because of something I did?"
15:02 Now, this was something that happened
15:03 at least a decade in the past,
15:05 and I had no idea that someone would misinterpret it.
15:09 And she'd been harboring doubt and resentment because of me
15:12 for more than a decade.
15:14 Now, of course, in that case,
15:15 it was completely unintentional.
15:17 I had no idea that I'd contributed to her misery.
15:21 So I think I'll put that one in the manslaughter column
15:23 because it was accidental.
15:27 But then I think about times
15:28 where I put my own interests first
15:30 at the expense of everybody else.
15:32 Now, sometimes that's actually necessary,
15:35 there's nothing particularly wrong with it
15:37 because there are people in this world
15:39 who never seem to actually take care of themselves,
15:41 and they end up having people always take advantage of them.
15:46 That's not what I'm talking about,
15:47 because those people should learn to assert themselves.
15:51 What I'm talking about are those moments
15:53 when you didn't even consider the other people in the room
15:56 and yet pounced on the first opportunity to advance self,
16:00 and that can absolutely lead to a lot of injustice,
16:05 and a lot of hard feelings.
16:07 And honestly, you'd be lying if you told me
16:10 you'd never done it, because we all have,
16:12 both wittingly and unwittingly.
16:15 So the Bible underlines this idea
16:17 that there's something flawed with our human existence,
16:20 and every one of us is a problem.
16:23 In one of those little books of John,
16:25 down near the end of the Bible, it says this,
16:27 "If we say that we have no sin,
16:29 "we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
16:32 "If we say that we have not sinned,
16:34 "we make him a liar in His word is not in us."
16:39 Now, you'll notice I inserted a few ellipses
16:41 into that passage,
16:42 and in a moment I'll come back,
16:43 and we'll look at the rest of it.
16:45 But for now, here's what I want you to notice.
16:47 The Bible says there is no such thing as an innocent person,
16:51 an instinctively we kind of all get that,
16:54 because it's easy to see serious flaws in everybody else.
16:58 Not to drag up an overused example,
17:00 but somehow we all know that a man like Hitler
17:03 needs to answer for what he did.
17:05 We wouldn't be happy if we knew that somehow the universe
17:08 was just gonna let him skate.
17:11 But when it comes to our own transgressions,
17:12 well, that's a completely different story
17:14 because you and I are incredibly gifted
17:17 when it comes to justifying our own actions.
17:20 So the Bible takes the time to tell us,
17:22 look, if you think you're not part of the problem,
17:25 you're lying to yourself.
17:26 Worse than that, you're calling God a liar
17:29 because from where he sits, you are clearly guilty.
17:34 You and I are really good
17:36 at defending our actions to other people,
17:38 but somehow we know that if the judgment is real,
17:40 and we found ourselves standing in front of God's throne,
17:43 our excuses would suddenly melt in the light of truth.
17:47 I'll be right back after this.
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18:23 - We all have this profound sense of justice,
18:25 and I would argue that we have that sense
18:27 because the one who made us is just.
18:30 Our Maker is a profoundly just God.
18:34 But our personal sense of justice
18:36 has also been warped by selfishness,
18:38 which blinds us to the contributions we make
18:41 to the misery of this world.
18:43 And what we have in the pages of the Bible
18:45 is a very important corrective,
18:47 a call to relearn the art of seeing the world
18:50 the way that God sees it.
18:52 The call of the Bible in Micah 6 runs like this.
18:55 It says, "He has shown you, o man, what is good,
18:58 "and what does the Lord require of you but to do justly,
19:02 "to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God."
19:06 Now, that's a verse that makes a lot of sense
19:09 to most people,
19:10 and we instinctively see that a world,
19:12 that lived by these principles,
19:14 would be a much nicer place to live.
19:17 But the part we usually miss
19:18 is that little bit at the end of the verse
19:20 that refers to humility.
19:23 We love the idea of justice for somebody else,
19:26 and we love the idea of mercy for us.
19:30 And because very few people are actually humble,
19:33 we have trouble turning that formula the other way around.
19:36 We struggle to believe that we deserve justice
19:38 for our crimes and that other people deserve mercy.
19:43 And that presents us with something interesting
19:45 to think about.
19:46 We love the idea of a just society,
19:49 and we love the idea of mercy,
19:53 but how do you make both things happen at the same time?
19:56 Well, that mostly escapes us,
19:58 which is one of the reasons I find the Bible so fascinating,
20:01 because it presents a God who is perfectly just
20:05 and perfectly merciful at the very same moment.
20:10 In the 89th Psalm, we find this description of God.
20:14 It says, "Righteousness and justice
20:17 "are the foundation of Your throne,
20:19 "mercy and truth go before Your face."
20:22 You know, Aristotle did a pretty good job
20:25 of exploring the concept of justice,
20:27 but he left an awful lot of unanswered questions,
20:30 which is why very few people consider the Nicomachean Ethics
20:34 to be the final word on this subject.
20:37 That was a useful contribution to be sure.
20:39 Personally, I like reading it,
20:42 but I find the Bible to be far more profound,
20:45 because it forces us to wrestle with the idea of a God
20:48 who is perfectly just and perfectly merciful
20:52 at the very same moment.
20:55 You know, I have no idea how many books have been written
20:57 about the cross of Christ,
20:58 but it's got to be in the hundreds of thousands,
21:01 if not the millions now,
21:03 because there's something really compelling
21:06 about what happened there.
21:08 I mean, in all honesty,
21:09 Jesus was hardly the only person who was ever crucified.
21:13 The Romans did that to thousands upon thousands of people.
21:16 In fact, I know of one occasion
21:18 where the Roman general Varus crucified 2000 Jews
21:23 right about the time that Jesus was born.
21:25 And I've also seen estimates that over the years,
21:27 the Romans crucified more than a quarter million Jews,
21:31 but still somehow the crucifixion of Christ
21:34 stands apart from all the rest,
21:37 because the way we understand it,
21:39 it was the cruel death of a perfectly innocent man.
21:43 And if you believe the Bible's account the way that I do,
21:47 and you understand that this was God in human flesh,
21:50 you quickly comprehend that this
21:52 was the worst miscarriage of justice
21:55 in the history of the world.
21:57 Nobody was less deserving of that kind of cruelty than Jesus
22:01 because he was the only perfectly innocent man
22:04 to ever walk the face of the earth.
22:07 So what that tells me,
22:09 is that God has not isolated himself from our pain.
22:12 If you and I have discovered that this world
22:14 is a profoundly unjust place,
22:16 then that would hold doubly true for God,
22:18 because come on, you and I cannot claim perfect innocence,
22:22 not even close.
22:24 And what we find at the cross of Christ,
22:26 even though it is the grossest act of injustice
22:28 ever perpetrated,
22:30 is a display of God's perfect justice,
22:33 and perfect mercy at the very same time.
22:37 Now, that's not an easy thing to wrap your mind around,
22:39 which is probably why so many people
22:41 find the story so irresistible.
22:44 Here's the way that one 19th Century author described it,
22:47 and this is probably one of my favorite thoughts
22:49 about the cross.
22:51 Some of you have actually heard me quote this
22:52 on other programs other weeks.
22:55 She wrote, "Christ was treated as we deserve,
22:59 "that we might be treated as He deserves.
23:01 "He was condemned for our sins in which He had no share,
23:04 "that we might be justified by His righteousness
23:07 "in which we had no share.
23:09 "He suffered the death which was ours,
23:11 "that we might receive the life which was His.
23:14 "With His stripes we are healed."
23:18 Now, just try to wrap your head around that idea,
23:21 and I'll be back in a moment to try and wrap things up.
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24:28 - The issue of justice and what constitutes justice
24:31 is really too big of a subject to tackle in a show
24:34 that lasts only 28 and a half minutes.
24:36 I mean, look at all the pages Aristotle devoted
24:39 to that subject,
24:40 and look at the mountains of books
24:41 that have been written since his day.
24:44 But you know, what we have in the Bible
24:46 may be the most profound treatment
24:48 of this subject ever written,
24:50 because it goes to great lengths
24:52 to explain a number of really important ideas.
24:56 First of all, it tells us
24:57 why we have an inborn sense of justice.
25:00 If you and I were just the product of a cosmic accident,
25:03 you might explain our sense of justice
25:05 as a mere survival instinct.
25:07 We find anything that blocks our attempt
25:09 to build a more secure existence, to be unjust.
25:13 Competition between living entities for scarce resources
25:16 becomes just for some, but then unjust for others.
25:20 But you know, thinking people understand
25:22 there's more to the subject than just that.
25:25 What the Bible explains is that the one who made us
25:28 is the very definition of justice,
25:30 and that's why our aberrant behavior
25:32 poses such a problem to the universe.
25:35 Our lives have actually become a lie
25:37 about who our Creator is and what he is like.
25:41 Secondly, the Bible tells us about a God who loves us,
25:44 and can act mercifully
25:45 without compromising justice one little bit.
25:49 I mean, in this world,
25:50 if a criminal walks away from his crime,
25:52 his own family might feel a deep sense of relief,
25:55 because now dad isn't gonna go to the electric chair.
25:59 But what seems like mercy to one family
26:02 is going to seem like a grave injustice to somebody else
26:05 because, well, the victim's family
26:07 doesn't have the satisfaction of knowing
26:09 that the magnitude of the perpetrator's crime
26:12 has even been recognized.
26:14 It feels like the life of their loved one
26:16 has been trivialized.
26:18 Human beings struggle to combine mercy and justice,
26:21 and do it successfully,
26:24 but what we have in this book
26:26 is a God that somehow pulls that off.
26:28 And I'll admit, this is not an easy read.
26:31 I mean, if you start to investigate
26:33 what the Bible actually says,
26:35 if you pick this book up and read it for yourself,
26:38 you're gonna be reading it for a really long time.
26:42 I mean, the book of Job continues to explore his situation
26:45 for 40 more very detailed chapters.
26:48 You could spend an entire year in that book,
26:51 and not hit the bottom of it.
26:53 So yeah, the Bible doesn't give us easy answers,
26:56 but of course, easy answers are never very satisfying.
27:00 And reading the Bible is somehow deeply satisfying,
27:04 deeply reassuring, because at the very least,
27:07 it acknowledges the issues that you and I face every day,
27:11 and it acknowledges that they are not simple.
27:15 And the longer you study this,
27:17 the more you find this deep sense of calm,
27:19 because while the world despairs of finding real justice
27:22 or real mercy,
27:24 you discover that there is an order to the universe
27:27 that actually makes sense,
27:28 and you discover a God who promises
27:30 that He knows how to balance the scales
27:32 and set things right.
27:34 A few moments ago, we read that passage from 1 John
27:37 that tells us we're all guilty,
27:38 and there's a part I left out, it's this,
27:41 "If we confess our sins,
27:43 "He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins,
27:46 "and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
27:50 You know, maybe it's time to just read this book
27:52 for yourself.
27:53 I'd be delighted to help you get started.
27:55 It turns out God recognizes your pain,
27:57 and he's going to give back what was taken from you.
28:00 Just go to bibleschools.com
28:02 where you'll find some incredible free resources
28:04 as our gift to you.
28:06 I'm Shawn Boonstra, and this has been, Authentic.
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