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The Temptations of Christ Part 2 of 3

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00:01 - Unless you're one of those overly confident people
00:03 who tends to leap before you look,
00:05 I'm guessing you've struggled with doubt from time to time.
00:08 Today we're gonna look at some unhealthy doubt
00:11 that can cost you a lot in the long run.
00:14 [gentle upbeat country music]
00:35 Today we're gonna go back to the temptations of Christ,
00:37 the way you find them recorded
00:39 in the Gospel according to Matthew,
00:41 so if you didn't catch part one,
00:43 you might wanna go back and watch that.
00:47 I mean, today's study will stand on its own,
00:50 but I will be referring back to some of the concepts
00:52 we've already covered, and I guess the reason
00:55 we're spending so much time on this story is because,
00:58 well, I personally find it so compelling.
01:01 I mean in a few short verses,
01:02 it gives us a detailed study of human nature
01:06 and it shows us the way that people tend to think,
01:09 and it highlights how our present state of mind
01:12 is really bound to rub up against the way
01:14 that God looks at our universe.
01:17 What we find in this account
01:18 is a surprisingly detailed analysis
01:20 of some of our biggest blind spots,
01:23 especially when you read this story
01:25 in the context of the rest of the Bible
01:27 and that's a really important concept.
01:29 Very little of what you read in the Bible
01:31 actually stands alone.
01:33 If you're gonna grasp what this ancient book is saying,
01:36 you've got no choice, really,
01:37 except to read the whole thing.
01:40 People love to critique the scriptures
01:42 and point out what they assume are contradictions
01:45 or even moral flaws, but I can assure you
01:48 that most of those apparent problems
01:50 begin to evaporate when you just read the whole book.
01:54 The real problem is that most people never take the time
01:57 to do that, and a lot of them venture into the Bible
02:00 looking for problems anyway.
02:01 They have that mindset when they start.
02:05 But now let's get back to the temptations of Christ.
02:07 In the last episode, we covered the first temptation
02:11 where we find Jesus fasting for 40 days
02:13 and the devil tempts him to use his divine power
02:16 to change stones into bread.
02:19 It was a really pivotal moment because what needs to happen
02:22 is that Christ has to overcome temptation as a human being.
02:29 The Apostle Paul describes him as the Last Adam,
02:31 and one of the key reasons Jesus became human
02:34 was to become the new head of the human race.
02:37 It's a critical part of his plan to save us.
02:41 What has to happen in that first temptation
02:44 is that Jesus needs to overcome a temptation
02:47 driven by appetite because that's where our first parents
02:51 failed when faced with the serpent in Eden.
02:54 What we really have in the stories of the temptations
02:57 is God finally winding up up the moral yarn
03:00 we foolishly unraveled way back when.
03:03 In Mark's incredibly brief account of the temptations,
03:06 the Bible says that immediately after his baptism,
03:10 the Spirit drove him into the wilderness.
03:13 And last time we saw in Matthew's account,
03:16 it tells us that Jesus went to the wilderness on purpose,
03:20 specifically for this encounter.
03:24 This is the story of a very human Jesus,
03:27 something that Christians easily forget
03:29 when they're talking about Christ.
03:31 I mean, we like to emphasize his deity,
03:34 the fact that he really was God in human flesh,
03:38 and that's a good thing to do,
03:40 but most of us don't spend nearly as much time
03:42 contemplating his full humanity.
03:45 These were real temptations,
03:47 as in Jesus actually had the potential to cave in.
03:51 This is God living as an authentic human being
03:55 and he's living in the same world that we inhabit.
03:58 He gets tired, he gets sad, he gets hungry.
04:01 He experiences rejection.
04:03 This is a bonafide human life.
04:07 But of course, that realization can lead
04:09 to some very bad thinking if we're not careful
04:12 because it's easy for our imaginations to leap
04:15 to conclusions that might not be warranted.
04:18 For example, there's the temptation to think that Jesus
04:21 must have been exactly like us in every last detail,
04:25 which would mean that we can be exactly like him
04:28 in every last detail, and I guess that's a dangerous thought
04:31 because, well, it's mostly true.
04:34 Jesus is the model human being.
04:37 A key part of his mission was to demonstrate
04:39 what humanity was supposed to be and there's no doubt
04:43 that Christians are supposed to emulate him,
04:46 but at the same time, he was also God and we are not.
04:50 The other day I was reading some correspondence
04:52 between Christians in the late 19th century
04:54 and I found a statement from one lady that really summarized
04:58 what I'm driving at, and it also demonstrates
05:00 that Christians have always struggled to understand
05:03 the precise nature of Christ.
05:05 "Brother Baker," she writes,
05:07 "Avoid every question in relation to the humanity of Christ,
05:10 which is liable to be misunderstood.
05:13 Truth lies close to the track of presumption.
05:16 In treating upon the humanity of Christ,
05:18 you need to guard strenuously every assertion,
05:21 lest your words be taken to mean more than they imply,
05:24 and thus you lose or dim the clear perceptions
05:27 of his humanity as combined with divinity."
05:31 Then she goes on to give her friend the example
05:33 of the birth of Christ.
05:35 Jesus was a real flesh and blood baby, a real human being,
05:39 but at the same time, it'd be hard to say that his birth
05:42 was exactly like ours unless you can somehow also prove
05:46 that yours was also a virgin birth.
05:49 A little later she says this.
05:51 "It is a mystery that is left unexplained to mortals
05:54 that Christ could be tempted in all points like as we are,
05:57 and yet be without sin.
05:59 The incarnation of Christ has ever been
06:02 and will ever remain a mystery.
06:04 That which is revealed is for us and for our children,
06:07 but let every human being be warned from the ground
06:09 of making Christ altogether human,
06:11 such as in one as ourselves, for it cannot be.
06:15 The exact time when humanity blended with divinity,
06:18 it is not necessary for us to know.
06:20 We are to keep our feet on the Rock, Christ Jesus,
06:23 as God revealed in humanity."
06:26 I think that's really good advice,
06:28 so thank you to the 19th century.
06:30 And with that proviso in place,
06:32 let's get back to the temptations of Christ
06:35 and I wanna move on to the second one
06:37 as presented in the Gospel according to Matthew.
06:41 Now that would be the third temptation in Luke's account
06:43 because Luke appears to be ordering the story
06:46 to parallel the temptations in Eden,
06:49 but Matthew puts this second.
06:51 He writes, "Then the devil took him up into the holy city,
06:55 set him on the pinnacle of the temple and said to him,
06:58 'If you are the Son of God, throw yourself down.
07:01 For it is written, 'He shall give his angels charge over you
07:05 and in their hands they shall bear you up,
07:07 lest you dash your foot against a stone.'"
07:10 So here's a passage with an awful lot of information
07:13 that we really need to unpack carefully
07:16 if we're gonna figure out how in the world
07:17 this might apply to us.
07:19 First of all, notice the devil's repeated efforts
07:22 to cause Jesus to doubt.
07:25 If you are the son of God.
07:27 It's a deliberate attempt to make him doubt
07:29 the public announcement at his baptism
07:31 where a voice from heaven said,
07:33 "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased."
07:38 God the Father had just told him that he was God the Son
07:41 and so what the devil's question is designed to do
07:44 is not so much make Jesus want to doubt himself,
07:47 although that's obviously part of it.
07:49 The question is designed to make him doubt the Word of God,
07:52 to doubt the things that God has clearly said.
07:55 It's a replay of the Garden of Eden
07:57 where the serpent doesn't outright contradict God,
08:00 but raises a question.
08:01 Did God really say that?
08:04 You'll notice it's an approach that continues all the way
08:07 through Jesus' ministry right up to the moment he's hanging
08:09 on a cross and the crowd that gathered there mocks him
08:13 and uses the very same language.
08:15 I mean, just listen to the language of the chief priests,
08:17 the scribes and the elders.
08:19 They said, "He saved others, himself he cannot save.
08:23 If he's the King of Israel, let him come now down
08:26 from that cross and we will believe him."
08:29 I'll be right back after this.
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09:04 - One of the really important things we find
09:06 in the temptations is the subject of doubt.
09:10 Of course, it's natural for human beings
09:12 to doubt themselves, and if I'm perfectly honest,
09:15 I'd have to tell you that my life
09:16 is constantly plagued by doubt.
09:19 How do I know if this is the right thing to do?
09:21 I know what God requires from me,
09:23 but what if it doesn't work in my case?
09:25 It's a universal problem, and while doubt is sometimes
09:28 a useful tool that can keep you humble,
09:31 it can also really throw a monkey wrench
09:33 into your spiritual life.
09:35 Perhaps the number one question that I hear from people
09:38 all the time runs a little bit like this.
09:41 "I know what the Bible says about the love of God
09:44 and I see that the offer of Christ
09:45 is available to everybody, at least in print,
09:50 but Pastor, what if I'm the exception?
09:52 What if God means all these promises
09:54 for everybody except me?
09:56 I mean, if you only knew how terrible my sins were."
10:01 The problem of doubt is not insignificant
10:03 and if you analyze most of your spiritual doubts,
10:06 you're gonna find that the underlying problem
10:08 concerns the reliability of God.
10:11 Listen carefully and you'll hear the whisper of a serpent
10:13 who loves to ask, "Did God really say that?"
10:18 This is why the Bible describes our relationship with God
10:21 as a matter of faith.
10:22 I'm sure you've heard that famous passage
10:25 from the Book of Ephesians,
10:26 which understandably became one of the key assertions
10:29 of the Protestant Reformation.
10:31 Paul wrote, "For by grace you have been saved through faith,
10:35 and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God,
10:38 not of works, lest anyone should boast."
10:41 A big part of what went wrong at the fall of humanity
10:44 was the demolition of our trust.
10:46 According to the Bible, we used to take God's Word
10:49 at face value because we trusted him,
10:52 but after listening to the lies of a serpent,
10:54 our faith began to waiver and we found ourselves questioning
10:57 the very one who made us.
11:00 So what God does in the process of restoring us
11:02 is to retrain our sense of trust.
11:05 I mean, suppose that God could send an angel
11:07 to your house tonight to tell you,
11:09 "Listen, you've got nothing to worry about
11:11 because I have a document here with your name on it
11:14 that you can put in your safe
11:16 and this document specifically says that God loves you,
11:20 it mentions you by name, and it lists the precise location
11:24 of your residence in the coming Kingdom of God."
11:28 That's the kind of precise documentation
11:30 we want in this world.
11:32 We want it signed and notarized.
11:34 The very reason we have courtrooms and lawyers
11:37 is because we can't trust each other,
11:40 and so you'd think that God would want to give us
11:42 a signed contract with our name at the top
11:45 to put our minds at ease, but he doesn't.
11:48 What he wants from us is the opposite
11:50 of what we did in Eden.
11:52 He wants us to trust him, to take his Word for it,
11:55 even on the days when the evidence of our senses
11:58 might suggest otherwise.
12:01 That's really the meaning of faith-based justification.
12:04 We choose to accept that we are forgiven
12:06 and accepted by God. Why?
12:08 Because he says so.
12:10 And of course, it's an exercise often plagued by doubt
12:13 and our fallen hearts want to keep asking, "But what if?"
12:18 And you'll notice that's a key part of this story
12:20 where Jesus, as a man, is tempted.
12:23 "What if that announcement from Heaven was wrong?"
12:26 the devil asks.
12:27 "What if you're not really the Son of God?
12:28 Maybe you should prove it just to be sure."
12:32 And that's where the story takes an unusual twist.
12:35 It seems that the enemy of God's purpose
12:37 has the ability to actually quote the scriptures.
12:41 Now, in some ways, I don't find that entirely surprising
12:43 because just about every time I take a few hours
12:46 to watch religious TV here in America,
12:49 I find all kinds of people making a shipwreck
12:51 of the content of the Bible,
12:53 so I know full well that a lot of the wrong people
12:56 know how to quote scripture,
12:59 but let's unpack what's actually happening here
13:02 and pay careful attention to detail.
13:05 After asking Jesus to question a statement from his Father,
13:08 the devil is using the Bible
13:10 to make that doubt seem plausible.
13:12 I mean, maybe you are the Son of God,
13:14 and if that's the case,
13:15 you could actually prove it by putting God to the test.
13:18 Just look at what the Bible says.
13:20 "The angels are there to save you, and if they did save you,
13:23 you would know for sure that God was telling the truth."
13:28 Now, to be fair, there are situations where God
13:31 encourages us to test or prove his promises.
13:34 For example, there's a passage in the Old Testament
13:37 Book of Malachi where God encourages people to test him
13:41 in the matter of financial stewardship.
13:44 The priesthood was supported by tithes and offerings,
13:46 and human nature being what it is,
13:48 most people are a little tight-fisted
13:50 when it comes to giving money away.
13:52 It's another case where some people are doubting
13:55 the Word of God, so this is what God says.
13:59 "Bring all the tithes into the storehouse,"
14:01 it says in Malachi 3, "That there may be food in my house,
14:05 'And try me now in this,' says the Lord of hosts,
14:08 'If I will not open for you the windows of Heaven
14:10 and pour out for you such a blessing
14:13 that there will not be room enough to receive it.'"
14:16 So we really do have these cases where God encourages us
14:20 to prove his promises, and on a little bit of a sidebar,
14:23 I'll tell you that I've tried this particular challenge
14:26 myself and it proved to be true.
14:29 But what's the difference between this
14:32 and what Jesus was being asked to do?
14:34 Well, let's take a look at his response
14:36 to the challenge in verse seven.
14:38 "Jesus said to him, 'It is written again,
14:41 you shall not tempt the Lord your God.'"
14:44 What Jesus does when the devil quotes scripture
14:46 is exactly what we mentioned a few moments ago.
14:50 Jesus reads the entire book.
14:53 What the devil was suggesting was true.
14:55 There are passages that state that sometimes angels
14:58 serve in a protective role.
15:00 He wasn't exactly misquoting scripture,
15:03 except that he kind of was because he was only presenting
15:06 part of the picture.
15:08 And that's where the biggest difference
15:10 between the stewardship challenge of Malachi
15:12 and the challenge for Jesus to leap from the temple is.
15:16 In one case, God specifically invites us to challenge him,
15:21 but in the other, he doesn't.
15:23 At that moment when the heavens parted
15:25 and God declared Jesus to be his Son,
15:27 there wasn't a follow-up statement saying,
15:29 "So why don't you go out and test that?"
15:32 Sometimes God dares us to believe by telling us
15:35 that he's opening the door for an experiment,
15:38 but other times he doesn't.
15:39 He just dares us to accept what he's saying.
15:44 What we have in this temptation is something that we find
15:46 in some of the interactions the religious leaders
15:48 had with Jesus back in the first century.
15:52 On one occasion, the Sadducees presented Jesus
15:54 with a hypothetical question.
15:56 "Listen," they said.
15:57 "We know this woman whose husband died
15:59 and the laws of levirate marriage say
16:02 that his brother needs to marry her, so he did,
16:05 but then he died and so the next brother married her
16:08 and wouldn't you know it,
16:09 she managed to burn through seven brothers."
16:12 And honestly, that seems highly unlikely.
16:15 "So here's what we wanna know, Jesus.
16:17 In the resurrection, who's she gonna be married to?"
16:20 Now, that was a trick question,
16:22 and what they were doing was trying to demonstrate
16:23 that a clear requirement mentioned in the Bible
16:26 contradicted this notion of a resurrection.
16:30 The Sadducees were a sect that didn't believe
16:32 in the afterlife, and of course, Jesus did.
16:35 The question was designed to prove that Jesus
16:37 wasn't being faithful to scripture,
16:40 and as soon as I take a quick break,
16:42 I'll show you how Jesus responded.
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17:18 - Right before the break, I left you hanging with the story
17:20 of the Sadducees and Jesus,
17:22 the incident where they tried to befuddle him
17:24 with a quandary about the resurrection of the dead.
17:27 Now, here's how Jesus responded in Matthew 22.
17:31 It says, "Jesus answered and said to them,
17:35 'You are mistaken,
17:36 not knowing the scriptures nor the power of God,
17:39 for in the resurrection they neither marry
17:42 nor are given in marriage,
17:43 but are like the angels of God in Heaven.'"
17:47 In other words, he's saying,
17:48 "You guys have no idea what you're talking about."
17:50 And he underlined all the scriptural data they had failed
17:53 to mention when they formulated their question.
17:57 It's the same thing the devil does
17:58 in the second temptation of Christ.
18:00 He used the Bible, but he used it incompletely,
18:04 leaving out a bunch of critical information.
18:07 And so Jesus responds to the devil in the very same way
18:11 by pointing to the rest of the scriptures.
18:14 And I suppose that's really one of the reasons
18:16 I spend so much time on this show encouraging people
18:19 to just read the whole book.
18:22 It's easy to make the Bible say whatever you want
18:24 because, well, it's a big book with a lot of information,
18:28 and if you rip parts out and remove them from their context,
18:31 you end up with, well, you end up with a lot of the garbage
18:35 you hear on religious TV,
18:37 and you end up with the kind of poorly-informed nonsense
18:40 that so many skeptics present in the books they write
18:43 when they're trying to discredit the Bible.
18:46 And I suppose there's a sense here
18:47 in which Christian believers can apply this story
18:50 to their everyday lives.
18:52 I can't tell you how many times I've had skeptics tell me,
18:55 "Prove it," and sometimes I'm willing to accept
18:58 that challenge because they appear to be honest people
19:01 who were honestly hoping to understand.
19:04 But unfortunately, it's all too common to find people
19:07 who are just playing some kind of game of gotcha,
19:09 hoping to back you into a logical corner.
19:13 Those discussions, I've discovered,
19:15 are usually a waste of everybody's time.
19:19 This is exactly what the devil is doing in this story.
19:21 He's saying, "Prove it," and he's actually using scripture
19:25 to construct a snare.
19:27 If the power of God is real and you're really his Son,
19:30 if you're really the long-awaited Messiah, then prove it.
19:34 Later on in his ministry,
19:36 there were other critics who approached Jesus and said,
19:38 "Show us a sign."
19:40 And listen to what Jesus said to them.
19:43 "But he answered and said to them,
19:44 'An evil and adulterers generation seeks after a sign
19:48 and no sign will be given to it
19:50 except the sign of the prophet Jonah.'"
19:53 Look, there's just no question that the proof for Jesus
19:56 is there, but again, you're going to have to read
19:59 the whole book.
20:00 These guys weren't the least bit interested
20:03 in discovering truth.
20:04 They were simply trying to hang Jesus
20:06 with some of his own teachings,
20:08 and what he told them was this.
20:10 "At the end of my ministry, when I rise from the dead,
20:14 you'll have all the proof you need."
20:16 Now, I'll be the first to admit that it's really tempting
20:19 when somebody demands immediate proof
20:21 to try and oblige them, but I've got to tell you,
20:24 after 30 years of doing that,
20:25 I have never found it effective.
20:28 You know what is effective?
20:30 The Bible.
20:31 This book has a way of persuading people
20:33 when my own modest and flawed sense of logic
20:36 can't do the trick.
20:39 You know, as I've thought back over the last 2,000 years
20:41 of Christian apologetics,
20:42 I've noticed something really fascinating.
20:45 There have been two key approaches
20:47 to the art and science of apologetics:
20:49 the empirical approach and the logical approach.
20:53 On the one hand, you've got a guy like Augustine
20:56 who more or less used a rational approach to prove
20:59 the existence of God.
21:00 He went to great lengths to prove that absolute truth
21:04 is a real thing and that God must be the highest expression
21:08 of that absolute truth.
21:10 His arguments were really the flip side
21:12 of a guy like Spinoza who used rational arguments
21:15 to bring his readers in an opposite direction.
21:19 Then you've got a guy like Thomas Aquinas
21:20 who borrowed very heavily from Aristotle,
21:23 and he attempted to make an empirical argument
21:26 for the existence of God,
21:27 an argument that was based on the evidence of your senses.
21:31 He appeals to the phenomenon of motion
21:34 and the laws of physics,
21:35 which imply that somebody had to start all that motion
21:39 out there in the universe going in the first place.
21:42 It's an empirical argument, which again,
21:44 is an appeal to the evidence of your senses.
21:49 Now, to be honest, I find these guys very compelling.
21:51 I love to read their work because they're incredibly lucid.
21:55 These guys were smarter than me
21:58 and it gives me a lot to think about.
22:00 But over the centuries,
22:02 I would argue that the results have been mediocre at best.
22:06 I mean, how many people have really become converts
22:09 to Christianity because of empirical or rational arguments?
22:13 To be sure, there are some,
22:16 but not as many as you would hope.
22:19 There's a third approach to Christian apologetics
22:21 that has been far more effective,
22:22 and it's one that experienced a profound revival
22:25 in the wake of the Protestant Reformation,
22:27 and that's the scriptural method.
22:30 Guys like Luther and Calvin used this method a lot,
22:33 and what they did was simply appeal
22:35 to the internal evidence of the Bible.
22:37 They pointed people to the words of scripture
22:42 and it works because if this book is telling the truth,
22:45 and this book really was inspired by God himself,
22:48 well, you'd have to expect it to work.
22:51 I'll be right back after this to explain what I mean.
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23:26 - Really, there are three main approaches
23:29 that Christian apologists have used over the centuries.
23:32 The empirical approach,
23:33 which appeals to the evidence of our senses,
23:36 the rational approach,
23:38 which attempts to reason its way to believing in God,
23:42 and the scriptural approach,
23:43 which simply highlights what God has said
23:46 in the pages of his book.
23:48 And I guess there's actually a fourth method
23:51 if I think about it, that came around in the 20th century,
23:53 but it's been such an abysmal failure,
23:56 I'm not gonna waste any time looking at it.
23:57 It's the irrational approach.
24:00 What you'll notice in the New Testament
24:02 is just how often the authors appeal to the Old Testament
24:06 as proof that Jesus is Messiah.
24:09 The Bible claims to be the voice of God,
24:12 a written communication from the supreme being who made us,
24:16 and in a remarkable way, it claims that this book
24:19 has been infused with the very presence of God.
24:23 It might be the work of human authors,
24:25 and you can see their distinctive personalities
24:27 in the ways that they wrote,
24:29 but they were inspired by the Spirit of God.
24:33 What we have is a work that is both human and divine
24:37 at the very same moment, not unlike the way that Jesus
24:41 is fully human and fully God all at the same time.
24:46 In the Book of Jeremiah, God says,
24:48 "Is not my word like a fire
24:50 and like a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces?"
24:53 A few chapters earlier in Jeremiah 20, the prophet says,
24:57 "But his Word was in my heart like a burning fire
25:00 shut up in my bones."
25:03 There's something substantially different about this book.
25:07 There's a really good reason the human race
25:09 has never been able to let go of it.
25:11 Paul writes to Timothy that all scripture
25:14 is given by inspiration of God,
25:16 and the Greek expression he uses is theos pneuma,
25:20 which literally means God-breathed.
25:24 There's a really good reason that this book
25:25 has towered above all the rest for so many centuries.
25:29 Again, that's why I always encourage you
25:32 to just read the whole book.
25:35 If you approach this honestly,
25:37 it doesn't take long to realize
25:39 there's something really, really different in here.
25:42 I mean, yeah, there are parts that will make you squirm
25:44 because they step on a nerve.
25:47 There are parts that you're gonna find difficult
25:49 to wrap your mind around.
25:51 And there are even parts that'll make you angry.
25:53 Trust me, I know, I've been through all of that,
25:57 but there's also this nagging sense that behind it all,
26:01 somehow this book is telling the truth.
26:05 Of course, that idea that this book is telling the truth
26:08 comes with implications because it might also mean
26:12 that we need to face the lies we've been telling ourselves,
26:15 and it might mean that we are faced with, well, with change,
26:21 but still there's this quiet peace,
26:23 this reassuring voice that appeals to the deepest,
26:27 most authentic parts of ourselves.
26:30 "Why don't you prove this is real?" the devil asked Jesus.
26:33 And of course, Jesus did go out and prove it,
26:36 but not the way that everybody demanded.
26:39 He proved it by living an authentic human life,
26:43 by perfectly mirroring the image of God
26:45 as a real life human being in a way that makes his name
26:50 tower above all the rest of humanity
26:53 for the next 20 centuries.
26:55 And I guess what I want to encourage you to do
26:59 is look at the whole answer to the devil's question.
27:02 Read the whole book because it's impossible
27:05 to be confronted with Jesus and not respond somehow.
27:11 Look, at the end of the day,
27:12 you might still not believe this,
27:14 but I think you owe it to yourself to know for sure
27:18 what you're choosing to accept or not accept.
27:22 And if you head on over to BibleStudies.com,
27:24 you'll find all kinds of free resources
27:27 to help you get started.
27:28 That's BibleStudies.com.
27:32 Well, that's it for this week,
27:33 so thanks for joining me again.
27:35 We'll see you next week.
27:36 I'm Shawn Boonstra, and this has been "Authentic."
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