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00:01 - You know, there are some pretty tough things in the Bible.
00:03 And some of them are really, really hard to explain
00:06 to a modern audience, like the mention of slavery.
00:11 So what in the world do we do about that?
00:13 That's our subject on today's episode of "Authentic."
00:17 [gentle wistful country music]
00:38 Today, we're gonna tackle one of the more unpleasant parts
00:40 of the Bible, but I think that if I'm gonna insist
00:42 that everybody should be reading this whole book,
00:45 well, then we can't just ignore the inconvenient parts.
00:49 And so, this is actually gonna be part five
00:52 of a series that I've been doing
00:54 that addresses the questions
00:55 an online skeptic said she would ask
00:58 if she had an audience with God.
01:00 And one of the most inconvenient parts of the Bible by far,
01:05 is the fact that it talks about the institution of slavery,
01:08 and it doesn't simply condemn it.
01:11 What you and I would expect to find
01:13 is an outright condemnation of slavery,
01:16 but you don't.
01:17 In fact, what we seem to find is a set of guidelines
01:21 on how to own and treat slaves,
01:23 which was the point this skeptic raised.
01:26 And of course, given the history of the United States,
01:29 slavery is an understandably touchy subject,
01:31 because back in the 19th century,
01:34 when there was a debate raging over the morality of slavery,
01:38 there were notable examples of supposed Christians
01:42 who actually used the Bible to justify what they were doing.
01:46 "Look at this," they would say, "look, Paul writes a letter
01:49 to a slave owner asking him to treat his slave with decency
01:53 and he never condemns the institution."
01:56 And what about the Old Testament,
01:57 which gives us guidelines for owning slaves?
02:00 How do you explain that
02:01 if slavery is really against the will of God?
02:06 So, of course some people then assume
02:08 that the Bible must be some kind of oppressive,
02:10 bronze-age document that actually promotes inequality
02:14 and bigotry.
02:15 If slavery is supported by the Bible,
02:18 then obviously we should get rid of the Bible, right?
02:21 It's an understandable opinion,
02:23 but it's also a little too hasty,
02:25 because the practice of slavery as you find it in the Bible,
02:28 was nothing like the slavery practiced
02:31 by plantation owners in the 19th century.
02:34 An institution, by the way, that was abolished by Christians
02:38 who knew it was contrary to the scriptures.
02:42 In fact, there were Christians
02:43 right from the birth of this nation who warned the founders
02:47 that the continued practice of slavery
02:49 was going to compromise what they were trying to accomplish
02:53 when they drafted the Bill of Rights.
02:56 So, it wasn't the Bible that led to the practice of slavery
03:00 here in America, even though the Bible was later used
03:03 by some people to try and justify it.
03:06 Even so, what should we do with those passages
03:10 where the Bible seems to confirm the idea
03:12 that you can own another human being?
03:15 Well, you should study it, is what you should do,
03:18 because it isn't at all what a lot of people think it is.
03:23 One of the most difficult tasks that you're going to face
03:25 when reading the Bible,
03:26 is to determine which parts of the Bible
03:28 actually represents God's ideal for humanity
03:31 and which parts are simply God's way of dealing with
03:34 our present, broken reality.
03:36 You'll find a good example of what I'm talking about
03:39 in Jesus' comments on the institution of marriage,
03:42 when the Pharisees asked him
03:43 to explain his position on divorce.
03:46 What they were trying to do
03:48 is trap Jesus into saying something
03:50 that would make him contradict Moses,
03:51 because they thought that would undermine his popularity.
03:56 "Is it ever permissible to get a divorce," they asked.
03:59 And Jesus answered by affirming what the Bible teaches.
04:02 Here's what it says: "He answered, 'Have you not read
04:06 that he who created them from the beginning
04:08 made them male and female and said,
04:10 "Therefore, a man shall leave his father and his mother
04:14 and hold fast to his wife,
04:15 and the two shall become one flesh."
04:18 So they are no longer two, but one flesh.
04:21 What therefore God has joined together,
04:23 Let not man separate."
04:26 So, what Jesus does is to affirm God's ideal,
04:30 his original plan, and that plan said that marriage
04:33 was supposed to last the rest of your life.
04:36 In fact, Jesus said that nobody has the right to separate
04:39 what God has put together.
04:41 And that's when the Pharisees pounce, because Moses taught
04:45 that divorce was actually permissible
04:47 under certain restrictive circumstances.
04:50 And that would seem to contradict what Jesus said
04:53 was the plain will of God.
04:55 So was Moses at odds with God?
04:57 Was Jesus actually calling his own status into question?
05:01 "Why then," the Pharisees asked, "did Moses command one
05:05 to give a certificate of divorce and to send her away?"
05:10 And that's when Jesus presented us
05:12 with a very important concept,
05:14 the fact that God has a perfect ideal,
05:17 but he also has a keen awareness of the reality
05:20 of our broken existence.
05:21 And he allows certain things to happen,
05:25 even though they would never happen in a perfect world.
05:28 So here's how Jesus answers the question in Matthew 19:8.
05:32 "He said to them, 'Because of your hardness of heart,
05:36 Moses allowed you to divorce your wives,
05:38 but from the beginning it was not so.
05:41 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife,
05:43 except for sexual immorality, and marries another,
05:47 commits adultery.'"
05:49 In other words, what God allows in this world
05:52 is not necessarily what he wants.
05:55 And what he sometimes does is allow us
05:57 to chart our own course through life.
06:00 But at the same time, he sets up important guidelines
06:03 in order to mitigate the damage that we're causing.
06:07 So in the case of marriage, God tells us,
06:08 "Look, I understand who and what you are,
06:12 and that you fall a long way short of my perfect ideal.
06:16 So I'm going to allow this,
06:18 but only within these specific guidelines."
06:22 The same thing happened when the nation of Israel
06:24 demanded a king.
06:25 It was not what God had in mind for his covenant nation,
06:29 but he allowed it,
06:30 and only within certain specific guidelines.
06:34 So, when it comes to the issue of slavery in the Bible,
06:38 you've got to ask yourself, is servitude God's ideal
06:41 for the human race?
06:43 Or was it a response to the harsh realities
06:46 of living in a broken world?
06:48 Does God value every individual equally?
06:51 Or does he actually think that some of us
06:53 are less suited to a dignified life than others?
06:57 What I wanna propose is that the first option
06:59 is the right one.
07:01 God was addressing our broken reality.
07:04 I find it particularly interesting
07:06 that he laid out his rules for slave ownership
07:09 pretty much right after he gave his people
07:11 the 10 Commandments from the top of Sinai.
07:14 This was a group of people
07:16 who had just escaped Egyptian slavery,
07:19 and now God appears to be outlining
07:22 how they should treat their slaves.
07:25 And in a few minutes, we're going to explore that story
07:28 in a little more detail.
07:30 But before we do that, I think it's important
07:32 that we take off our modern 21st century glasses
07:35 and make an effort to read this
07:38 from an original perspective.
07:40 Unfortunately, our perception of slavery has been shaped
07:43 by the atrocities committed here in the new world
07:46 up to the latter part of the 19th century.
07:49 And so it's easy to think that this is the same thing,
07:53 and it isn't.
07:55 The Bible's not discussing an international slave trade,
07:58 where people were treated worse than animals
08:00 and herded into ships, where a lot of people died
08:03 before they ever actually made it to the slave market.
08:06 We're not talking about stripping away basic human dignity,
08:10 chopping off their feet if they try to run away
08:12 or separating families for the sake of a quick buck.
08:16 If we're going to understand what the Bible is getting at,
08:19 we're gonna have to suspend our current understanding
08:22 of slavery, and step back thousands of years
08:25 into a different time and place.
08:27 And what we're gonna find is that even in a bad situation,
08:31 God actually preserves human dignity
08:34 and always seems to be working towards salvation
08:37 and redemption, usually in spite of us.
08:43 Now, personally, I find it very telling
08:45 that American slave owners didn't want their slaves
08:48 to actually read the Bible,
08:49 because it might give them ideas about dignity,
08:53 freedom, and worth.
08:54 In fact, they produced this,
08:57 something we now call the Slave Bible.
09:00 It's a pared-back version of the scriptures
09:02 that deliberately left out all the parts
09:05 that might give people the idea
09:07 that they were being treated in a way
09:09 that God didn't approve of.
09:11 In fact, more than 50% of the New Testament
09:14 is missing in here, and 90% of the Old.
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09:53 - If slavery is a practice ordained by God,
09:55 as some people say, if the scriptures really promote it,
09:58 then you have to wonder why American slave owners
10:01 went to so much trouble to keep their slaves
10:03 from actually reading the Bible.
10:06 In some cases, it was just a matter of basic literacy.
10:09 If you can't read,
10:10 you'll never discover what the Bible says.
10:13 And in other cases, they actually pared back the Bible,
10:16 cutting it down to the bits that wouldn't give readers
10:19 the notion that their rightful God-given state of existence
10:23 is liberty.
10:25 But of course, skeptics can still easily point
10:28 to parts of the Bible that seem to suggest
10:30 that God was in favor of what we were doing.
10:33 And that's where the confusing practice of slavery
10:35 in America, with the way the Israelites did it,
10:38 becomes a serious problem.
10:40 What the Bible describes is nothing at all
10:44 like what we were doing.
10:46 Let me show you what I mean.
10:49 And I think maybe the best place to start
10:51 is with the Bible's instructions for slavery
10:53 found in Exodus 21.
10:56 Now remember, this was given to a group of people
10:59 who had just escaped a life of slavery in Egypt.
11:02 And so what you'd expect to find is outright condemnation
11:06 of the practice, but you don't.
11:08 And that's because God was proposing something different
11:11 than the idea we have.
11:13 So here we go, in Exodus 21, starting right at the top
11:16 of the chapter where it says, "Now these are the rules
11:20 that you shall set before them.
11:21 When you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years,
11:25 and in the seventh he shall go out free, for nothing."
11:29 One of the first things we should notice
11:31 is the fact that there was an all-important cap on slavery.
11:34 It couldn't last more than six years.
11:36 And in the seventh year, you had to liberate your slave.
11:40 And that's because among God's people,
11:42 servitude was a way of handling economic inequality.
11:47 This is a clear case where God is permitting his people
11:50 to do something, even though it's obviously not his ideal.
11:55 One of the things that human beings have struggled with
11:57 since time immemorial is the unequal distribution
12:00 of resources.
12:01 No matter what we try, we always seem to end up
12:04 in a situation where some people become really,
12:06 really rich and other people end up living a life
12:09 of brutal subsistence.
12:11 It happens in free market economies,
12:13 and it also happens in Marxist economies,
12:16 which seem to produce even more poverty.
12:19 And on this side of the kingdom of God,
12:21 there is no solution in sight.
12:22 Even Jesus said, you always have the poor with you.
12:27 This is one of the hard realities
12:29 of living in a world populated by sinful and selfish people.
12:32 They will always, always, always put their own desires
12:36 ahead of somebody else's needs.
12:38 And it seems that no matter what measures we take
12:41 to mitigate the problem, we always come back
12:43 to the same situation.
12:45 On the one hand, we have those who tell us
12:47 that free markets are the ultimate solution.
12:49 A rising tide lifts all boats.
12:51 And to a large extent that's been true.
12:54 It is a system that historically speaking
12:56 lifted more people out of abject poverty
12:59 and granted more people personal liberty than anything else.
13:03 It's a system built on rugged individualism,
13:05 which is simultaneously both its strength and its weakness,
13:12 because while it certainly promotes self-sufficiency,
13:13 it can also demolish any sense of responsibility
13:16 for our fellow human beings, to the point where,
13:20 in Matthew 25, Jesus openly condemns those
13:23 who ignore suffering.
13:27 But then on the other hand, we have those who feel like
13:28 more government is the answer.
13:30 So they build a system they say will produce equality.
13:33 But the price for that is to strip people
13:35 of their individual worth,
13:37 treating them like wards of the state
13:39 instead of real flesh and blood human beings.
13:42 As Stalin, or in some versions, Lenin, was rumored to say,
13:46 "If you wanna make an omelet,
13:48 you're gonna have to break a few eggs."
13:50 And those eggs, sadly, were people.
13:53 Now, the quote is a bit of an urban legend
13:55 because it actually came from Robert Louis Stevenson,
13:58 but the attitude was there in the former Soviet Union.
14:03 So far, our human attempts to provide permanent solutions
14:06 to poverty have pretty much failed.
14:09 And while some of our so-called solutions
14:11 are clearly better than others, on this side of paradise,
14:14 I think we're gonna continue to meet with failure.
14:17 Of course, that doesn't mean we shouldn't try,
14:19 because Jesus clearly expects us to do something
14:22 about pain and suffering.
14:24 That much is clear in Matthew 25.
14:27 But in this side of the second coming,
14:29 we're not gonna find a permanent solution.
14:33 What we have in Exodus 21 is an honest recognition
14:37 of our brutal situation.
14:39 Some people in this broken world
14:40 are going to meet with incredible hardship.
14:43 And what you could do about your situation
14:45 back in those days was sell your labor.
14:49 You could actually sell yourself into servanthood,
14:51 becoming a full-time employee for somebody wealthy,
14:54 and that would provide sustenance for your family,
14:57 or even settle your debts.
15:00 This wasn't a case of people rounding up
15:02 unsuspecting victims and selling them as slaves.
15:05 This was a case of individuals
15:07 who needed to get their debt under control.
15:09 And that happened in one of two ways.
15:13 Either you were a criminal, a thief,
15:15 and you were required to make things right,
15:18 or you were a person who ran into financial trouble
15:20 and you needed some kind of escape valve.
15:23 Either way, selling yourself into servitude
15:26 became an emergency measure for somebody
15:28 who found themselves in some kind of financial free fall.
15:32 And from this point forward in the text,
15:35 you'll find a series of rules designed
15:36 to keep things neat and tidy.
15:39 If you sold yourself into slavery
15:41 and you were single, you would leave your master
15:43 still a single man.
15:45 In other words, there was a plan to keep the ledger balanced
15:48 so that nobody could complain that the period of servitude
15:51 was somehow unfair, or that somebody,
15:53 whether the purchaser or the servant,
15:56 had been taken advantage of.
15:58 There was even a provision that if the slave felt like
16:00 he'd like to stay, he could actually sign on permanently.
16:05 Here's what it says.
16:06 "But if the slave plainly says, 'I love my master, my wife,
16:09 and my children; I will not go out free,'
16:12 then his master shall bring him to God
16:14 and he shall bring him to the door or the doorpost.
16:17 And his master shall bore his ear through with an awl,
16:19 and he shall be his slave forever."
16:23 So, what are we supposed to make of that?
16:25 Well, if he chooses to get married
16:27 during his time of indentured servitude,
16:29 he's supposed to leave his wife and kids behind,
16:32 because he agreed to labor for a set amount.
16:35 And by acquiring a family,
16:36 he's earning more than was agreed.
16:38 Again, it's a matter of keeping the ledger
16:41 balanced and clear.
16:42 So if he wants to stay, he can,
16:44 and that was a matter of personal choice.
16:47 And this is obviously one of the key differences
16:50 between this account in the Bible
16:52 and the atrocities we committed here in America.
16:55 There were clear rules designed to preserve
16:57 everybody's dignity.
16:59 And unless you were a criminal who couldn't pay your debt,
17:02 this was a matter of free will.
17:05 And above it all, you have God saying,
17:06 "I understand why you think you need to do this,
17:09 but listen, this doesn't last forever,
17:11 and I'm drawing a line in the sand,
17:13 this does not go past the seventh year."
17:17 So, maybe think about it in terms of a labor contract.
17:20 I will perform six years of labor in exchange for X,
17:25 which is what Jacob did when he wanted to marry Rachel.
17:27 Long before these rules were drafted,
17:29 he gave seven years of servitude to Laban
17:32 in exchange for his daughter.
17:34 Of course, we might not like it,
17:37 and we might have a lot of trouble not thinking about this
17:40 from our 21st century perspective,
17:43 but put back in its historical context,
17:45 and suddenly it seems a little more reasonable
17:48 than the brutal treatment of slaves in more recent times.
17:51 And again, this is not God's ideal,
17:54 this is not how he intended us to live,
17:57 but given the time and circumstances,
17:59 it starts to look more like a reasonable compromise
18:03 with a broken way of life.
18:06 Now, of course, I'm oversimplifying this
18:07 because some of you will already know that I haven't gotten
18:10 to the part where a man can sell his daughter into slavery,
18:14 which really complicates things by mixing slavery
18:17 with what appears to be the clear mistreatment of women.
18:21 Chapter 21:7 says, "When a man sells his daughter
18:25 as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do."
18:29 That would appear to be a huge ethical problem,
18:33 which I'll deal with as soon as we come back
18:35 from this break.
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19:10 - You know, it's one thing to sell yourself into slavery,
19:12 but what do we do with the guy who sells his daughter?
19:16 To the 21st-century mind,
19:18 it seems morally repugnant on a number of levels.
19:21 Not only are we dealing with selling people
19:24 against their will,
19:25 but we're treating women differently from men,
19:27 and it seems to be God's idea.
19:30 And for those who already believe
19:32 that the Bible is some kind of misogynistic document,
19:35 this can become fodder for criticism.
19:38 But again, what we're dealing with
19:40 is God accommodating himself to our reality,
19:43 the harsh reality that we created
19:46 quite apart from God's will.
19:48 And we're also reading this with Western eyes,
19:50 which creates all kinds of unnecessary friction.
19:54 When you go back and read it in the context
19:56 in which it was written,
19:57 it actually begins to make some sense.
20:00 Back in those days, when the world was mostly
20:02 an agrarian society, your fortunes were tied to the land.
20:06 And land was passed on to those most physically capable
20:09 of working it, which was the men.
20:12 Now I understand,
20:13 you and I would probably do it differently,
20:15 but again, we're talking about the world the way it was,
20:19 not the way we wish it was.
20:21 And honestly, you'll find God taking all kinds of measures
20:23 throughout the Bible to move the needle
20:25 in the right direction toward a better world,
20:29 all the way down to the moment
20:30 when he finally took on humanity for himself,
20:33 and lived here among us.
20:36 But as you and I wait for the restoration of all things,
20:39 the Bible reveals that God is patient and long-suffering.
20:42 And back when this was written,
20:44 he was dealing with a current reality.
20:47 Let's imagine a father is incredibly poor.
20:50 He's got nothing to offer his daughter
20:51 except a long life of hardship, or even a short life,
20:55 depending on how bad it is.
20:57 On the other side of town is a wealthy man
20:59 who could easily provide for your daughter,
21:02 and you hope against all odds
21:03 that he might show interest in your daughter and marry her,
21:07 an arrangement that would probably be a permanent solution
21:10 to her poverty.
21:12 It appears to be win-win.
21:14 There's a settlement for the family,
21:16 which helps curve their poverty,
21:18 and the daughter's placed with a rich family
21:20 where her lot is certainly better than it was at home.
21:23 And I know, the word we have in the English Bible is slave,
21:27 which implies harsh and regular mistreatment,
21:30 but that's a misunderstanding that you and I
21:31 are reading into the text.
21:33 You could think of this more like household chores.
21:37 If you read the passage carefully,
21:39 you'll discover that the intention with this arrangement
21:41 was actually marriage.
21:43 It says, "She shall not go out as the male slaves do,"
21:46 which at first glance makes it look like
21:48 she doesn't have the same privileges and rights
21:50 as a male slave, but she does.
21:54 The Bible makes it clear that she also gets to leave
21:56 in the seventh year.
21:58 There is no difference in the way that she's treated,
22:00 except with regard to one thing.
22:02 She has the ability to escape servitude through marriage.
22:06 If the master likes her or the son likes her
22:09 and they marry her, she's free.
22:11 And she's to be treated, it says,
22:13 with the full honor of a real wife.
22:15 And even if the master or the son
22:17 goes on to marry other women,
22:19 she must never be treated as a lesser wife
22:22 because she used to be a servant.
22:24 It says, "If he takes another wife to himself,
22:26 he shall not diminish her food, her clothing,
22:29 or her marital rights."
22:32 And if he doesn't wanna marry her,
22:34 she goes back to her family.
22:36 Now again, you and I might not like this,
22:38 and you might still think the Bible is some outdated,
22:40 bronze-age document that promotes misogyny.
22:44 But then we're asking the world of 3,500 years ago
22:49 to be exactly like the world we live in right now,
22:51 and that's just not the case.
22:54 And if time should last, you could be sure
22:56 that the people living centuries from now
22:58 will look back at us and think we were barbarians,
23:01 no matter how enlightened we think we are.
23:04 And we're also assuming that all of this
23:06 was God's idea in the first place, and it wasn't.
23:11 I mean, just remember the words that God spoke
23:12 to Adam and Eve during the exit interview from Eden.
23:16 "Look," God said, "you had a perfect, painless existence,
23:19 but now that you've decided to go your own way,
23:21 I'm gonna let you.
23:23 But it does mean that life is going to be hard
23:25 and you're going to have to exist
23:27 by the sweat of your brow."
23:29 And from that point forward, God moves heaven and Earth
23:31 to accommodate our new reality,
23:34 to put clear limits around our ability to destroy ourselves.
23:39 He knew that we were going to be incredibly selfish
23:41 and make a huge mess, but he made sure
23:44 that there was a way to keep us
23:45 from just eradicating ourselves.
23:48 At the end of the day, poverty and suffering are our fault,
23:52 not God's.
23:54 And what you find in the pages of the Bible
23:56 is an unparalleled ethical code
23:59 that attempts to mitigate the damage that we cause.
24:04 The idea behind placing your daughter in a rich man's house
24:07 was to provide a way out of poverty,
24:09 which is hard for us to fathom
24:11 here in the modern, wealthy West,
24:12 where even the poorest among us
24:14 live better than most of our distant ancestors.
24:18 But I've got to tell you,
24:20 I continue to witness that kind of poverty
24:21 in other places on this planet.
24:23 Where a family with too many children is starving,
24:26 so they trust the person who comes along and says,
24:28 "Look, I have a work arrangement for your daughter
24:31 where she doesn't have to live like this."
24:34 Most of us here don't live with that kind of desperation,
24:38 so we don't understand.
24:40 But it is still happening, and I mean today.
24:43 There was no safety net 3,500 years ago,
24:46 except for the ones that God created.
24:48 We find him telling farmers to leave something behind
24:51 for the poor when they harvest the crops.
24:53 We find rules for getting out of crippling debt.
24:56 There was a prohibition on usury,
24:59 a practice that made poverty even tougher to escape.
25:02 And we had a win-win arrangement
25:04 where poor children had a shot at the good life.
25:07 And again, it might be hard for us to understand now,
25:11 but it wasn't back then.
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25:49 - We could probably spend another hour
25:50 dissecting the provisions God made for escaping poverty,
25:54 but I think we've covered enough
25:55 to make a really important point.
25:58 This was a matter of God mitigating the damage we caused,
26:01 and not a matter of God instituting slavery
26:04 because he's cruel or vindictive.
26:07 I guess what I want you to do is just read the Bible,
26:09 read it broadly, read it honestly.
26:12 I think what you're gonna find is a God
26:14 who consistently moves the needle in his direction,
26:16 always pushing us toward a better, more authentic life,
26:20 without taking away our freedom to choose.
26:23 He always finds the middle ground between personal liberty
26:26 and social conscience, and he always preserves our dignity,
26:30 regardless of what we've done.
26:33 And while we're on the topic,
26:34 let me just spend half a second talking about
26:36 some of today's brutal realities,
26:38 and I wanna ask you to help.
26:40 The Voice of Prophecy sponsors a home for girls
26:42 rescued from human trafficking.
26:45 These are girls from very poor families,
26:47 and when someone promises work for their children,
26:50 these desperate families jump at the chance,
26:53 and then they never see their kids again.
26:55 These reprehensible people are putting these girls
26:57 in the sex trade.
27:00 So a few years ago, my wife Jean met a remarkable woman
27:03 who breaks into these brothels and rescues these girls,
27:06 and they need a place to go.
27:08 So here's what you could do.
27:09 We've got a home where these girls get a brand new life.
27:12 They learn important skills, and I could use your help.
27:16 You could turn someone's life around
27:17 for as little as say, a hundred bucks.
27:20 So please, head on over to vop.com,
27:23 click on the big orange "donate" button,
27:25 and then when you're asked what you're giving for,
27:28 click on the "Rescue Project" in the dropdown menu.
27:32 Here's what I know about the Bible, folks.
27:34 All of it, even the seemingly hard stuff,
27:37 even the stuff that we struggle to understand now
27:39 in the 21st century, it's all designed to redeem us,
27:43 to restore us to an authentic human existence.
27:47 Thanks for joining me again today.
27:48 I'm Shawn Boonstra,
27:50 and this has been another episode of "Authentic."
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