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Series Code: AVGC
Program Code: AVGC210016S
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00:05 Hello Friends and welcome to the General Conference 00:09 Virtual Global Camp Meeting. 00:11 This is a Seventh-day Adventist world-wide Camp Meeting 00:13 and we want to welcome you to this special session 00:15 of 3ABN Bible Q and A. 00:18 During this hour, you will be able to submit your questions 00:21 via the Chat Section 00:23 so look there around your screen... 00:24 find that Chat Section 00:26 and start submitting your Bible questions 00:28 because we have a wonderful Panel here 00:30 that is locked and loaded and ready to go. 00:32 They have their Bibles and they're ready to give you 00:34 a Bible answer for your questions 00:36 and so, without further ado, 00:37 why don't I go ahead and introduce our Panel here, 00:40 I'm excited about this. 00:41 Again, this is the 3ABN Bible Q and A Session 00:43 for the Global Camp Meeting 00:45 but many of these faces you may notice from the 3ABN... 00:48 the 3ABN Bible Q and A new Program 00:50 that we just recently launched. 00:53 Also, the 3ABN Sabbath School Panel 00:55 which is a popular Program here at 3ABN 00:58 which we're so blessed to be a part of 01:00 and many, many other 3ABN Bible Today Programs 01:02 and many, many other wonderful Programs as well. 01:04 So, to my left, we have Ms. Shelley Quinn 01:07 and it's always a blessing to have you Sister. 01:09 Shelley: It's always a blessing to be here. 01:10 Ryan: And tell us what you do here at 3ABN. 01:12 I'm the Program Development Manager... 01:14 do a little bit of everything. 01:16 Ryan: Wearing multiple hats... 01:17 I think that's probably true for all of us, right? 01:20 Okay, to your left we have Pastor John Lomacang, 01:22 Pastor of the Thompsonville Seventh-day Adventist Church 01:26 here in Southern Illinois 01:27 and tell us also what you do here for 3ABN, Brother. 01:29 John: Well I... I am the Director of World Evangelism 01:32 for 3ABN... I'm the Pastor of the Church 01:34 I'm also the Pastor in the Illinois Conference 01:36 so, I have on a number of hats 01:38 but then, we do so many things here as Shelley said, 01:40 just pick the day and we'll have a different hat on. 01:43 Panel: Laughter. Ryan: Amen praise the Lord 01:45 and to your left is Ms. Jill Morikone, 01:48 our Vice President... COO of 3ABN 01:51 and... I mean... I'm almost... 01:52 I don't know if I should ask you what you do 01:55 because you do everything here at 3ABN 01:57 but it's also a blessing to have you here, Ms. Jill. 01:59 Jill: I do a little bit of everything... but what a joy! 02:02 You know, we get to study together a lot 02:03 on 3ABN Sabbath School Panel... 02:05 on the Bible Q and A 02:07 and it's just a joy to open up the Word of God 02:10 it's a joy to study together 02:11 and we are so delighted that you have joined us 02:14 and are looking forward to your questions. 02:16 Ryan: Hmmm... praise the Lord and way down there... 02:19 at the far end of the table, Pastor John Dinzey. 02:23 You are the General Manager of 3ABN Latino 02:26 and it's always a blessing to have you as well, Brother. 02:27 John: It's a pleasure and a blessing to be here 02:30 and God is good 02:31 and He's going to provide us Bible answers. 02:33 Ryan: Amen... straight from the Bible. 02:36 As you know, the Bible makes it very clear... 02:39 2nd Timothy chapter 2 verse 15... 02:40 to study to show thyself approved, 02:42 a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, 02:44 rightly dividing the word of truth 02:46 and that's what we are going to pray for today 02:49 that the Lord uses us... give us the Holy Spirit 02:51 to answer your Bible questions 02:53 so, again, we're just now tuning in... 02:54 I know we have... kind of staggering numbers coming in 02:57 at different times throughout the Program. 02:58 Be sure to submit your question via the Chat Section 03:02 and we will try to get to those answers during this Program. 03:05 So, without further ado, let's go ahead and have a prayer 03:07 and get right into it 03:08 and Pastor Lomacang, I'm going to ask you to pray for us. 03:10 Lomacang: Sure. "Loving Father in heaven, 03:12 what a blessing it is to be able to open our hearts 03:14 as we open our Bibles 03:16 and we pray that You will speak to the hearts of those 03:19 who are looking for answers from Your holy Word. 03:21 Enlighten us but also empower us 03:24 with the answers that are relevant... 03:26 that are... that are led by your Holy Spirit 03:29 and we will be careful Lord, to give all the praise and honor 03:32 just to You for the work that You will accomplish. 03:35 In Your holy name we pray, amen. " 03:38 Ryan: Amen, praise the Lord. 03:39 I realize I didn't even introduce myself... 03:41 there may be someone who doesn't know who I am... 03:43 I guess I should tell... feels weird but 03:44 my name is Ryan Day. 03:46 I'm a... I represent the 3ABN Pastoral Department here 03:49 and it's a privilege and an honor 03:50 to be a part of this incredible worldwide ministry... 03:52 Three Angels Broadcasting Network. 03:55 We're all about the everlasting gospel 03:57 as this message right now 03:59 and many, many others are going all around the world, 04:02 we are trying to fulfill working and co-laboring with God 04:05 and His Spirt to take the gospel to the... to all the world 04:08 because we know that Jesus is soon to come 04:10 but we have Bible questions... 04:11 I have a few right here already 04:13 again, continue to submit those questions 04:15 via the Chat Section below, 04:16 I think it's somewhere below 04:18 but you find that Chat Section and submit your Bible questions 04:21 and we will get to those during this hour. 04:23 I'm going to launch right into this... 04:25 in fact, I'm going to come to you Pastor Dinzey 04:28 way down there at the end 04:30 and this question is to you Brother and it says: 04:32 How can you keep Yahweh's true Sabbath 04:35 using a pagan calendar? 04:38 I believe the Luni-Solar Calendar 04:41 is the Creator's Calendar. 04:43 So, the idea of the... the calendars 04:45 along with the Sabbath-keeping concept... so. 04:48 Dinzey: This is a very good question, 04:50 you know about... maybe 12 years ago or more 04:52 some studies came to 3ABN 04:54 presenting some similar idea 04:56 and different studies come to 3ABN 04:59 and so, when I started looking at this... 05:01 it was very interesting to me 05:02 and they were presenting an idea 05:04 that we were keeping the Sabbath on the wrong day. 05:06 So, this launched me into a search 05:08 that actually I wound up in Israel 05:09 even searching this out. 05:11 Spoke to Rabbis and did some historical looking into this 05:16 and I can tell you, the Seventh-day Adventist Church 05:18 has plenty of information 05:20 to let you know that the seventh day of today 05:23 is the Sabbath that has been kept throughout history. 05:27 In fact, we have records of some Scientists that... 05:30 that say that even if you lose all the calendars 05:33 and you lose all track of which day of the week it is... 05:35 through the study of the heavenly bodies, 05:38 they can find the day exactly 05:41 that we are living in presently 05:44 so, the idea that for some reason 05:47 the Lord has kept this hidden till the end of time 05:50 to find out which day of the Sabbath is 05:52 by coming up with these Lunar calendars or... 05:55 or what does he call it? A Lunar-Solar calendar is... 05:59 is a... is a... is a stretch... 06:01 I know you want to do the Lord's will 06:02 but please understand 06:05 that God has not kept the seventh-day Sabbath a secret. 06:08 In fact, throughout... many nations 06:12 the seventh day has exactly the name 06:15 that identifies the day of rest in more than 100 languages. 06:20 The seventh day is identified by the word "rest" 06:24 even in... even in the language of Spanish that I speak 06:29 is Sábado... 06:30 Cybbota... I think it's in Russian 06:33 and even... even the Brazilians, 06:35 Brazilians... they do not have names of the... 06:40 of the week like we have... Sunday, Monday, Tuesday... 06:42 They have: First Day, Second Day, Third Day, 06:44 but interestingly enough, when they come to the Seventh-day, 06:47 they call it: Sábado... the Sabbath... the day of rest. 06:50 So, I can share more about this 06:52 but I think we have time for more questions. 06:55 Ryan: Sure, I appreciate that answer, Brother, 06:57 thank you so much 06:58 and by the way, that question came from Ray 07:00 and, Ray, we appreciate your submitting that question. 07:02 Shelley, I'm going to come to you for this next question. 07:04 The question is: Exodus 19 verses 5 through 6 07:08 and 1st Peter Chapter 2 verse 9 07:10 talks about us being God's special treasure... 07:14 a royal priesthood... 07:15 a holy people. 07:17 I know God's Word is true for He cannot lie 07:20 but I don't feel like royalty. 07:23 Everything I do... I question myself. 07:25 I don't feel like I'm doing enough. 07:27 Not being totally obedient... 07:29 calling myself a hypocrite... 07:31 I'm working... sorry, they're asking: 07:34 Am I working for my salvation 07:36 even though I know salvation is not of works? 07:39 Quinn: Sherry, I just want you to know that I've been there. 07:44 I've done that 07:46 and here's what I would have to say to you. 07:48 In 2nd Corinthians 10 verses 4 and 5, 07:51 it talks about us putting on the full armour 07:54 and casting down every vain imagining. 07:59 We can't go by feelings first 08:01 but there is such a thing 08:03 as getting in a performance mentality. 08:06 Two things I would recommend that you do. 08:08 First, pray and ask God to give you a divine awareness 08:12 of His presence, He is with you always. 08:15 Then, start speaking God's Word over your life 08:19 because that will cause your way of thinking 08:24 to line up with His way of thinking. 08:26 2nd Corinthians 1:20 says that all of God's promises 08:31 are "yes" and "amen" in Christ Jesus 08:33 and this Word is alive and active 08:36 and sometimes when people first start speaking 08:39 affirmations from Scripture and praying it, 08:41 they'll feel like a hypocrite 08:43 but what happens is, 08:46 there is power of life and death in your tongue, 08:49 and as you speak God's Word and begin to understand 08:54 how much He loves you and who you are in Christ, 08:58 like Paul said, 1st Corinthians 15:10, 09:01 "I am what I am by the grace of God... " 09:04 but when you understand how much He loves you, 09:07 your obedience will be motivated by love. 09:10 Everything in your life will begin to change. 09:13 So, I encourage you to do both of those things. 09:16 Pray for divine awareness 09:18 and start speaking God's Word over your life. 09:22 Ryan: Amen, thank you so much Sherry 09:25 for submitting that question. 09:27 All right, Ms. Jill Morikone, 09:29 we're going to come to you next with this question. 09:30 This question comes from Alba from Nicaragua 09:33 and Alba asks: If the husband is sanctified by his wife 09:39 and vice versa, 09:40 what about the responsibility that salvation is personal? 09:44 Morikone: It's a great question, 09:46 thank you, Alba, so much for submitting that 09:48 and for tuning in and for watching. 09:50 Let's turn to 1st Corinthians chapter 7. 09:53 If you look at the book of 1st Corinthians 09:56 especially 1st Corinthians 5, 6 and 7, 09:59 we see that the Christians in Corinth 10:01 were not at all shocked by immorality. 10:03 We see that the moral condition of the Roman world at that time 10:09 had reached... you can say an all-time low. 10:11 If fact, Paul counsels in 1st Corinthians 5 10:14 and he tells the believers that if you have sexual relations 10:17 with your father's wife, that's an issue. 10:19 In 1st Corinthians 6, he says, 10:21 "If you have sexual relations with a prostitute, 10:24 that is an issue. " 10:25 Of course, we would say, "Well, that's Biblical, 10:27 we understand that. " 10:29 So, by the time we get to 1st Corinthians 7, 10:32 the Christians were wondering were they sinning 10:35 if they were married to an unbelieving spouse. 10:38 There were many Christians... 10:39 they had become Christians 10:40 and maybe their spouse was an unbeliever. 10:44 The passage you're referencing in 1st Corinthians 7, 10:47 we pick it up in verse 12. 10:49 "But to the rest I, not the Lord, say: 10:52 If any brother has a wife who does not believe, 10:55 and she is willing to live with him, 10:56 let him not divorce her. " 10:58 In other words, he is unequally yoked... 11:01 he is married to someone who is not a believer. 11:03 "And a woman who has a husband who does not believe, 11:06 if he's willing to live with her, let her not divorce him. 11:09 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, 11:12 and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband; 11:16 otherwise your children would be unclean, 11:20 but now they are holy. " 11:22 He's saying, of course, that the children 11:24 of a husband and wife... 11:25 one being a believer... one an unbeliever... 11:27 that they're not born out of wedlock 11:30 because that is still a one-flesh union 11:32 but he's not saying 11:33 that you can actually sanctify... 11:36 you can save your spouse. 11:38 What he is saying is that you have influence. 11:40 You have an influence over that unbelieving spouse 11:44 and you can witness to them. 11:46 You can share Jesus to them. 11:49 In 1st Peter 3, it talks... Paul... Peter... 11:53 talks about the incredible opportunity that wives have... 11:57 even without a word to influence their husband 12:01 who doesn't know God 12:02 to influence them for Jesus. 12:04 So, the opportunity... we see that in verse 16, 12:07 "How do you know, O wife, 12:08 whether you will save your husband?" 12:10 Or "How do you know, O husband, 12:12 whether you will save your wife?" 12:14 So, that privilege and opportunity 12:16 to pray for your spouse 12:18 and to witness to them even by not speaking to them 12:21 but just being a Godly example. 12:24 Ryan: Hmmm... amen, thank you for that Jill, appreciate that. 12:28 All right, Pastor Lomacang, we're coming to you. 12:30 This next question comes from Cynthia in Minnesota 12:33 and Cynthia's question is a good one. 12:35 She says: Pastor, my brother wants to be baptized. 12:38 My mother has prayed for him for many years 12:41 but he doesn't want to become a member of a church. 12:44 He loves the Lord and prays but is a loner 12:47 and never goes anywhere. 12:48 Can he be baptized without joining a church? 12:53 Lomacang: Well, baptism is to the Christian 12:56 what marriage is to the husband and the wife. 13:00 Jill: Okay. 13:01 Lomacang: You could be... you can't be a husband by yourself. 13:04 You can't be a wife by yourself. 13:07 It is at least a union of one other person 13:09 and when the Bible talks about... 13:11 in the book of Acts... 13:13 what made Acts such a beautiful experience is... 13:16 the Lord added to the church daily those who were being saved 13:21 and then He made it very clear... 13:23 He never spoke about individuals by themselves being the church. 13:28 Jesus, in John 10:16 says, "Other sheep I have 13:32 that are not of this fold. " 13:33 The word "fold" there 13:34 is not a singular person being spoken of 13:37 but "of this flock" is another terminology 13:39 that is used in the King James Version. 13:41 So, he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. 13:45 So, if you're baptized, 13:47 the question I really would ask is: what is causing you 13:51 to be reticent about joining the church 13:53 because the church is God's body on earth... 13:56 the church is the fellowship of believers. 13:58 The word used in the Bible is: Koinonia... fellowship. 14:03 You can't have fellowship by yourself. 14:04 I challenge you to do that now. 14:06 If you have fellowship by yourself, 14:09 there may be something wrong there. 14:12 Now, it's okay to be you in Christ alone 14:15 but baptism is... 14:16 first of all an entrance into a relationship with Christ. 14:19 But those who are in a relationship with Christ 14:22 are part of a fellowship of community of believers. 14:26 So, when Jesus established a church, 14:28 in the book of Acts, the church continued to grow so quickly 14:32 from 3,000 to 5,000 14:34 to the point where the Bible says: multitudes were added 14:37 and Revelation talks about the churches... 14:39 a number which no man can number 14:41 then also, the 144,000 14:43 so, nowhere in Scripture does the Bible say: 14:45 go ahead and get baptized and just remain isolated. 14:48 Now, if you can't function in a crowd, that's one thing 14:52 but it doesn't recommend that you get baptized and just say, 14:54 "I'm going to serve the Lord without joining anything... " 14:57 you will quickly die like a branch 15:00 that has been separated from the vine. 15:01 Ryan: Hmmm... amen... thank you so much Pastor for that. 15:04 And again, we just want to encourage you as we have 15:07 questions coming in. 15:09 You probably have just now joined us 15:10 or recently joined us, 15:12 you're watching the 3ABN Bible Q and A Session 15:14 and so, if you want to submit your questions, 15:16 just drop them in that Chat Section. 15:18 We have people that are at work getting us these questions 15:21 so, please send us your Bible questions at this time 15:24 and we will try to get a Bible answer for that 15:26 right here during this hour 15:28 and so, I'm going to go ahead 15:29 and move on to Pastor John Dinzey... 15:31 all the way down there at the end of this long table. 15:34 It's a big table... but I like it... 15:37 it's a beautiful table though, 15:38 all right, and so, Pastor Dinzey this person says: 15:41 Who is the remnant church 15:44 according to the book of Revelation in chapter 12? 15:47 Dinzey: In the book of Revelation chapter 12, 15:51 you have a lot of history 15:54 going back even to heaven 15:57 and it goes in and out but in Revelation 12:17, 16:01 the words are here in the New King James 16:04 written this way, 16:06 "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, 16:10 and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, 16:13 who keep the commandments of God 16:14 and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. " 16:17 The King James Version uses the word: 16:20 the remnant of her seed 16:22 and I want to talk about that for a moment 16:24 because the question is: who is the remnant? 16:26 And here in this Scripture you notice that it says... 16:31 the word "remnant" 16:33 let's talk about that word "remnant" 16:34 the definition is: that which remains of something 16:38 and normally the best example there... 16:40 people say, "Oh yes, I understand now, 16:42 is when you say: a carpet remnant 16:44 and that which is left... the very last part the bolt 16:47 that had all the... and you... 16:49 you got a special on that 16:51 but the remnant is like the original... 16:55 it has the same characteristics as that which it was a part of, 17:00 so, when it says that the dragon went to make war 17:03 with the woman and the remnant of her seed, 17:08 that means, he is trying to destroy... 17:12 do away the seed... 17:14 those that want to be faithful to God... 17:16 those that have the characteristics of the seed 17:20 because it says, 17:21 "went to make war with the remnant of her seed. " 17:24 Now, who is the seed? 17:25 I would say to you the seed is Jesus Christ. 17:28 The seed... the offspring is Jesus Christ 17:30 and those that want to be like Jesus 17:32 and be faithful to God... 17:34 then those are the ones he wants to make war with. 17:36 So, I now bring you to a book, John chapter 15 and verse 10, 17:43 what did Jesus do? 17:45 "If you keep My commandments" He said, 17:47 you will abide in My love, 17:48 just as I have kept my Father's commandments, 17:51 and abide in His love. " 17:53 And this ties us in to Revelation 12: 17 very well 17:56 because it identifies them... in Revelation 12:17 it says, 18:00 "Those that keep the commandments of God 18:03 and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. " 18:05 We don't have time to talk about the testimony of Jesus Christ, 18:07 you asked about the Remnant and that's who they are... 18:10 those that want to be faithful to God 18:11 and keep His commandments. 18:12 Ryan: Hmmm... amen, praise the Lord. 18:14 Again, you're watching 3ABN Bible Questions and Answers 18:18 so, please... if you have a question, 18:20 submit it into the Chat Section 18:21 and we will get a Bible answer for that question. 18:24 I'm going to come to you Ms. Shelley, 18:26 this question is coming from Bob and Bob says: 18:29 God has the three attributes of Omnipotence... 18:33 Omniscience and Omnipresence. 18:36 After Jesus was resurrected and returned to heaven, 18:39 does He still have all three attributes 18:42 or did He forever lose omnipresence 18:45 after having taken on human form? 18:47 Shelley: Ah, that's a good one, 18:49 we do know that God... 18:51 Philippians 2:5 through 8 explains that God came down 18:56 and became a man... 18:58 He humbled Himself to become a man 19:00 and to... even to the point of death... 19:05 obedience to death on the cross. 19:07 When Jesus... 19:09 when God became a man in the person of Jesus Christ, 19:13 He was limited to being only one place at one time. 19:17 He... when He was crucified and resurrected, 19:23 He was resurrected in glorified flesh 19:26 but He is the last Adam who stands at the throne of God now, 19:30 He sits at the right hand 19:31 as the new human representative of mankind. 19:37 So, He went in flesh... He will return in His flesh 19:41 but let me direct you to Ephesians chapter 3 19:47 and in Ephesians 3 verse 16, 19:51 Paul's praying that God would grant you 19:53 according to the riches of His glory 19:55 to be strengthened with might through His Spirit 19:59 in your inner man 20:00 that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith 20:04 have... and then we're rooted and grounded in love. 20:08 So, the answer to your question is... 20:11 even though Christ was resurrected in glorified flesh 20:15 because He is one with the Spirit... 20:18 because He has sent the Spirit, He dwells in our hearts by faith 20:24 through the Holy Spirit 20:25 so, He still has omnipresence through the Spirit. 20:28 Ryan: Hmmm... amen... thank you for that... so much. 20:31 All right, Ms. Jill, we're going to come back to you 20:34 for this next question. 20:35 This comes from Brigid and Brigid says: 20:37 What if Adam had not partaken in the consumption of the apple? 20:42 Would we be less sinful people? 20:45 And why is Adam always blamed? 20:48 Jill: That's a great question 20:49 I like that because sometimes I feel like... 20:52 well, the woman's always blamed. 20:53 So, we're going to tackle the second half first 20:56 and then come back to the first. 20:58 So, why is Adam always blamed? 20:59 I look at 1st Timothy 2. 21:02 You know, 1st Timothy 2 verse 14 says, 21:04 "And Adam was not deceived, 21:06 but the woman being deceived fell into transgression. " 21:11 In other words, Adam made a conscious deliberate choice 21:15 to step into sin. 21:18 He knew that what he was doing was wrong... 21:21 he knew it was against God's counsel... 21:23 what God had told him 21:25 and yet, he chose the love of a woman... 21:28 or... we can't get into his head... 21:31 that's what I would say he chose... I'm not sure 21:33 but he chose that over the word of God. 21:37 In Genesis 3 verse 17, it says... 21:40 this is God of course with the... 21:42 the curse coming upon the serpent and Eve and Adam 21:46 and it says: "Then to Adam He said, 21:48 "Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, 21:51 and have eaten from the tree, which I commanded you, saying, 21:55 'You shall not eat of it... '" 21:56 and then it goes on... 21:57 but we see that Adam listened to the voice of his wife 22:00 and he stepped into sin knowingly. 22:03 I think maybe that's why we could say, 22:06 "Why is Adam always blamed?" 22:08 Because he knew what he was doing... and he did it anyway. 22:10 Now, to your first question, 22:12 "What if Adam had not partaken 22:14 in the consumption of the apple?" 22:16 I don't have a Scripture for this but I do have a quote 22:20 from the Spirit of Prophecy 22:22 that I want to read to you 22:23 and this is from Patriarchs and Prophets, page 56. 22:27 It says, "She" meaning Eve "was a part of himself, 22:32 and he could not endure the thought of separation. 22:35 He did not realize that the same Infinite Power 22:39 who from the dust had created him, 22:42 a living beautiful form, 22:44 and had in love given him a companion, 22:46 would supply her place. 22:48 He resolved to share her fate; 22:51 if she must die, he would die with her. " 22:55 So, from that 22:56 and maybe the rest of the pastors would have a Bible verse 22:58 I don't have one but from that I deduce 23:00 that if Eve had stepped into sin, 23:03 but not Adam... 23:04 that God would have created another companion for Adam 23:09 and we would have continued in holiness. 23:12 Ryan: Hmmm... amen... thank you so much, Jill 23:14 and again, you're watching 3ABN Bible Q and A 23:17 and I'm saying this often because I know... 23:20 having done a couple of these already 23:22 that there's people coming... 23:23 coming into this with every minute that passes 23:25 and so, you're maybe just now joining us 23:28 and if you want to submit a Bible question, 23:30 just put it in the Chat Section. 23:32 Do us a favor because we love the Bible... 23:34 we love to answer Bible questions 23:35 and you may have a question that you've been wanting an answer to 23:38 and so, go ahead and submit that Bible question right now 23:41 in the Chat Section below. 23:42 Pastor Lomacang, I'm coming back to you with the next one, 23:45 this is pertaining to a Scripture 23:47 in 2nd Thessalonian chapter 2 23:48 and so, this person... actually this... 23:50 this... this Viewer says that they are a... 23:53 a continuing and grateful Viewer and student from California 23:57 and their question is... they said: 23:59 In 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2, 24:01 verses 7, 8 and 9, 24:03 it speaks about the antichrist as "Mystery of Lawlessness. " 24:08 Who is the "he" that restrains... 24:12 then is taken out of the way 24:14 so that the lawless one will be revealed? 24:17 I need more modern speech for this verse 24:19 and verses continuing on through verse 9 24:22 but not sure if that will help... 24:24 and then they ask: Is Satan taking himself out of the way? 24:27 I'm confused. 24:28 Lomacang: Okay, well let's... let's go ahead and read this 24:30 because this is a... a beautiful revelation of the Scripture. 24:33 I'm going to go ahead and start with 2nd Thessalonians 24:35 chapter 2 24:37 and then I'm going to begin with verse 5... 24:40 verse 5 down to verse 12 is the whole context. 24:42 "Do you not remember that when I was still with you 24:47 I told you these things? 24:50 And now you know what is restraining, 24:55 that he may be revealed in his own time. " 24:57 So, we're talking about a restraining power... 25:00 it's already introduced before we get to verse 7 and 8. 25:04 "For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; 25:08 only He who now restrains 25:11 will do so until He is taken out of the way. " 25:13 So, when the Restrainer is removed, 25:15 then the full power of Satan will be revealed 25:18 and the Bible speaks about the full power in verse 8 25:21 "And then the lawless one will be revealed, 25:23 whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth 25:26 and destroy with the brightness of His coming... " 25:27 and that destruction refers to two parties... 25:30 Satan as well as the Antichrist System on earth 25:32 and it says though... this System that is being referred to 25:35 that's going to be revealed... 25:36 Satan has been working on this for some time. 25:39 Verse 9, "The coming of the lawless one 25:41 is according to the working of Satan, 25:43 with all power, signs, and lying wonders... " 25:46 you can go back to Revelation 13 and talk about that... 25:48 it deceived by the means of those miracles 25:51 which he had power to do in the side of the beast. 25:52 Now, let's go ahead and ask a couple of questions here... 25:55 this is very providential. 25:56 Some say... and I'll give you the two... two versions 25:59 and I'll give you the one that I think... 26:01 I feel most comfortable with. 26:02 Some say that this was referring to 26:05 a power that was already known by the Thessalonians 26:08 because Paul didn't see a need to explain it. 26:10 He, evidently made it clear to them 26:12 that there's a power working here 26:14 that when that power is removed, 26:16 then the one that is being restrained will be revealed. 26:18 So, Paul didn't speak in a way that he felt 26:21 he needed to explain to them what he was referring to 26:23 because they were aware of that particular power. 26:26 Some say it was the power of Rome 26:28 but then, if that was the case, Rome is restraining itself 26:32 and then Rome is revealing itself when Rome... 26:35 Rome is not going to take itself out of the way. 26:37 Others say that this is referring to Christ... 26:39 well, then you can't restrain Christ 26:41 and Christ is not going to take Himself out of the way 26:43 so, the question is: 26:44 who is the restrainer that is eventually removed 26:47 so that Satan has full control of the final impenitent. 26:51 Let's go to Genesis chapter 6 and verse 3, 26:54 okay, look at Genesis 6 and verse 3 26:56 and we find that when you go... 26:58 what's happening in the days of... 27:00 what happened in the days of Noah 27:01 is being repeated again. 27:03 Let's watch the... Genesis 6 and verse 3, 27:06 I'm going to read this 27:07 and the Bible says, yeah, Genesis 6 verse 3, 27:11 yeah, here it is... it says, 27:13 "And the Lord said, 27:15 'My Spirit shall not strive with man forever... '" 27:19 or shall not always strive with man 27:21 "for indeed he is flesh; 27:22 yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years. " 27:25 Now, we know... and we have said this endless times 27:29 that the Spirit of God is gradually being with... what? 27:33 Panel: Withdrawn. Lomacang: Withdrawn. 27:34 What happened when the Spirit of God 27:36 stopped striving with the antediluvians? 27:38 The Bible says, "Their thoughts and intents were only evil 27:41 continually... and what does that reveal? 27:44 The full working of what Satan has already been doing 27:47 but now, his power is fully revealed. 27:49 How can I verify that? 27:51 Look at 2nd Timothy chapter 1 and verse 14, 27:55 2nd Timothy... and what... what I'm saying here 27:59 is the restraining power 28:00 when you finally reject the restraining work 28:03 of the Holy Spirit, 28:04 there's nothing else... 28:05 that's why Matthew says, 28:07 "Grieve not the Holy Spirit whereby you were sealed. " 28:11 When you... when the Holy Spirit is grieved, 28:13 as was the case with Ananias and Sapphira, 28:15 the only thing that follows after that 28:17 was deception or death. 28:18 2nd Timothy 1 and verse 14, the Apostle Paul says in Timothy 28:22 "That good thing which was committed to you... " 28:24 notice what he says, 28:25 "kept by the Holy Spirit who dwells in you. " 28:28 So, the Holy Spirit is the "keeping power. " 28:31 The Holy Spirit keeps us... guards us... 28:34 that's why we are told... and it is so... 28:37 it is so detrimental that the Bible says, 28:39 "If you speak against Jesus, that will be forgiven... 28:43 but if you speak against the Holy Spirit, 28:45 that will not be forgiven in this life 28:46 nor in the world to come. " 28:47 Ryan: That's right. 28:49 Lomacang: So what am I saying here? 28:50 The Holy Spirit is the restraining power 28:52 that is causing men that are restrained by the Spirit of God 28:56 to be protected... 28:57 but when that protection is removed, 28:59 then we're going to see something 29:00 the world has never known 29:02 and now with the Bible support... 29:03 can I give a quote from Ellen White? 29:05 Ryan: Sure. Lomacang: Okay, listen to this, 29:06 this from the Great Controversy... 29:08 this is under the title... under the page 36 and paragraph 2. 29:12 It says, "The records of the past... 29:14 the long process of turmoil, conflict and revolution, 29:17 the battle and war... 29:18 the confusion of noise the garments rolled in blood... 29:21 what are these in contrast to the terror that... 29:24 that... to the terrors of that day 29:27 when the restraining Spirit of God 29:31 shall by wholly withdrawn from the wicked, 29:32 no longer to hold in check the outburst of human passion 29:36 and Satanic wrath! 29:37 The world will then behold, as never before, 29:41 the results of Satan's rule. " 29:42 So, what I'm saying is the restraining power 29:44 is the Holy Spirit... 29:46 when men finally reject that, 29:47 then you can see what's talked about... 29:49 the deceivableness of... of unrighteousness 29:53 and those who perish... why? 29:55 because they do not receive the love of the truth. 29:57 What's the job of the Holy Spirit? 29:58 When He, the Spirit of truth, has come, 30:00 He will lead you and guide you into all truth... 30:02 you reject Him... the power is removed 30:03 and Satan has final control. 30:06 Ryan: Amen, wow! It's like a surgeon... 30:07 it was a beautiful presentation. 30:09 Panel: Laughter... Ryan: Praise the Lord. 30:11 and you know what? 30:13 You may be watching right now and saying, 30:15 "I love these Bible questions and answers... " 30:17 you know what? 30:18 you can get a dose of this every Monday on 3ABN. 30:20 We have a... we have a new Bible Q and A Program 30:23 entitled: 3ABN Today. 30:25 It's a Today Program so, it happens every Monday 30:27 at different times throughout the day, 30:28 you can go to 3ABN.TV and check the schedule for that. 30:32 It's a powerful program where the entire hour 30:35 we just take one Bible question right after another 30:37 and we're answering this. 30:39 And... you know what? But why wait till Monday 30:41 when you can submit your question right now 30:43 in the Chat Section below... 30:44 so, submit your questions below in the Chat Section 30:47 and they'll get us that question 30:49 and we'll do our best to answer that 30:50 right from the Word of God today. 30:52 All right, Ms. Shelley, 30:53 I trying actually to come back to you for this next one, 30:55 this question comes from Nelson in Uganda 30:58 and Nelson is wanting to know the meaning 31:01 of Revelation chapter 12 verses 7 through 10. 31:03 Shelley: All right, let's just turn there and 31:06 first thing I would say, Nelson, 31:07 is that you can't understand Revelation 7 through 10 31:11 unless you continue to verse 12. 31:14 It comes together as a package. 31:16 Let's just begin there, it says, 31:18 verse 7... Revelation 12:7... 31:20 war broke out in heaven... 31:22 Michael and His angels fought with the dragon... 31:26 we know the dragon is Satan 31:27 and Michael is our Lord and Savior. 31:31 I just did an hour-long sermon on that... 31:33 it's a beautiful teaching. 31:35 But he says... then the dragon and his angels 31:38 fought, but they did not prevail, 31:39 nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 31:43 This is... what we see in verses 7 through 12 31:48 is a concise summary of the great controversy... 31:53 a cosmic conflict... 31:54 so we know Satan and his angels... 31:58 a third of the angels followed Satan in the rebellion 32:01 and we know Isaiah 14 says that he got... 32:04 his pride got high... lifted up... 32:07 he wanted to be worshipped like God. 32:09 In Ezekiel 28 says he was trafficking his lies 32:14 about God being unfair, 32:16 so, Satan and a third of the angels got kicked out 32:19 even before the creation of this world 32:22 but then it goes on and it says, 32:24 verse 9... "the great dragon was cast out, 32:27 that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, 32:29 who deceives the whole world; 32:30 he was cast to the earth, 32:32 and his angels were cast out with Him. 32:33 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven... " 32:37 so, now, when it says "then" 32:40 we're changing the scenes from 32:43 when Satan was first kicked out of heaven 32:45 you know what? 32:47 He still had access as Prince of the World... 32:50 he had access to the Divine Council. 32:52 You can read that in Job where he still had that access 32:56 but in verse 10 it says, 32:59 "Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, 33:03 'Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, 33:06 and the power of His Christ have come... '" 33:08 So, he's gone from... when Satan was first cast out 33:12 but still had access... 33:13 to now, he is looking at... after the cross of Calvary. 33:20 Salvation and strength has come... 33:23 God's plan of salvation has been proven 33:26 and it says, "the power of His Christ has come 33:30 for the accuser of our brethren... " 33:32 that's Satan... 33:33 "who accused them before our God day and night, 33:36 has been cast down. " 33:37 So, he no longer has that access 33:40 and here's the beauty... verse 11... 33:43 "they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb 33:45 and by the word of their testimony, 33:47 and they did not love their lives to the death. 33:51 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! 33:55 But woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! 33:59 For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, 34:02 because he knows he has a short time. " 34:06 The Divine Council has given Satan a short time 34:11 to try to prove his lies against God 34:13 and when this whole sin experience is over, 34:18 sin will not rise again Nahum 1:9 34:21 because we will all have seen 34:25 what the real effects of sin are. 34:28 Ryan: Amen, thank you so much Jill... I appreciate... ah... 34:31 Ms. Shelley, appreciate the... I do that all the time, 34:34 I don't know what I'm thinking of... 34:36 anyways, thank you for joining us. 34:37 If you're just now tuning in, 34:38 you're watching the 3ABN Bible Q and A Session 34:41 which you can submit your questions right now 34:43 in the Chat Section below 34:45 and it will come right to us 34:46 and we'll try to get a Bible answer for that question. 34:48 My friends... let's see... 34:50 I'm going to throw this next question down the table to 34:53 Pastor John Dinzey 34:55 and Brother Dinzey, this question is: 34:59 What's the best version of the Bible to study? 35:03 That is a very good question 35:06 and I personally enjoy reading the King James Version. 35:11 I peek into the New King James Version. 35:13 This is a matter of study 35:16 and so, there are many versions out there 35:19 so it brings confusion. 35:20 Before there was only one or two to pick from 35:22 but I would say to you that which you easily understand 35:26 to read is the best version that will minister to you. 35:31 If you... for me... personally, 35:33 like I said... I like the King James Version, 35:35 it helps me to... that's what I basically grew up from... 35:39 grew up reading the King James Version... 35:41 so I feel this... this attachment to it. 35:44 But, yes, I look into other versions 35:46 to see when you're reading it 35:48 and you don't understand something, 35:49 it's okay to look into other versions 35:51 to see different reading... 35:53 also, the fact that I speak Spanish helps me as well 35:56 because I can see how it's written in English... 35:58 how it's written in Spanish and in the... 36:01 I am blessed to see insight 36:03 as I read these different versions 36:05 but one for study... I would say to you 36:07 you're going to have to pray about that. 36:09 I know there are some things out there 36:11 concerning versions that have been corrupted... 36:14 I would stay away from what you would call a "Paraphrased Bible" 36:18 because this is really somebody coming up with a... 36:21 an easy way to understand the Bible 36:24 and one of the most popular ones that is out there 36:28 was first written by a man that wanted to write something 36:31 for his... his young child to understand the Bible 36:34 and it became... I think it's called the Good News Version 36:38 or something like that... I can't recall the exact... 36:40 but he... he was a surprised to see that people were buying 36:43 this version of the Bible that he made for his little child. 36:46 So, I would say... stay away from the paraphrased Bibles. 36:49 You can look at them for reference 36:51 to see if it helps your understanding 36:53 but a "thus saith the Lord" 36:55 you're going to have to compare several versions of the Bible 36:58 and we have many tools now-a-days. 37:00 You can go into the Greek and the Hebrew 37:03 and gain insight as you study the Bible 37:06 but first of all, pray before you study the Bible 37:10 and ask God to give you an understanding. 37:11 Ryan: Hmmm... amen, praise the Lord, 37:14 thank you so much Pastor Dinzey. 37:16 Pastor Lomacang, I'm going to come to you 37:18 with this next question. 37:19 This person asks: How do you say that ignoring the Holy Spirit 37:25 is the same as blasphemy in the... 37:27 in reference to the unpardonable sin 37:29 and they say here: Nowhere in the Bible 37:31 I guess is blasphemy compared to ignoring or not listening. 37:35 Well, actually, I don't agree with that obviously 37:39 because if the Holy Spirit is the only one 37:42 that the Bible says: whereby we are sealed 37:44 unto the day of redemption, 37:46 then how could you be sealed if you ignore 37:50 or turn your ear away from the very one 37:54 whose sole work is to do that. 37:56 The Bible makes it clear, 37:58 let's go to John chapter 16 37:59 and let me show you how powerful 38:02 the Bible makes the work of the Holy Spirit. 38:04 You know, this is so pertinent now-a-days 38:07 in the light of the controversy surrounding the Holy Spirit. 38:11 John chapter 16... 38:13 and I'm... I'm reading from my favorite Bible 38:18 that's falling apart... I love that... 38:22 I have a lot of Bibles falling apart 38:24 but I heard a saying that if your Bible's falling apart, 38:27 you are not. 38:28 Panel: Laughter... praise the Lord. 38:31 Lomacang: John 16 verse 12, 38:33 Jesus said, "I have many things to say to you, 38:36 but you cannot bear them now. " 38:38 So, there were further revelations to come 38:41 and notice who He appointed these revelations to. 38:44 Notice how He described who the revelations will come through. 38:47 Verse 13, "However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, 38:51 He will guide you into all truth; 38:53 for He will not speak on His own authority, 38:56 but whatever He hears, He will speak; 38:58 and He will tell you things to come. 39:01 He will glorify Me, 39:03 for He will take of what is Mine 39:05 and declare it to you. 39:08 All things that the Father has" the Bible says, "are Mine. 39:12 Therefore I say that He will take what is Mine 39:16 and will declare it to you. " 39:18 When you look at... 39:19 when you look at the work of the Holy Spirit, 39:21 you find... one of the things that Jesus appoints to Him is 39:24 He's going to reveal to you more truth 39:25 but it goes even more deeper than that. 39:27 Let's go further back... verse 7 of John chapter 16, 39:32 "Nevertheless I tell you the truth. 39:36 It is to your advantage... " or expedient... "that I go away; 39:39 for if I do not go away, the Helper... " or the Spirit... 39:42 "will not come to you; 39:44 but if I depart, I will send Him to you. " 39:47 Look at what He's supposed to do... 39:49 "And when He has come... " verse 8, 39:52 "He will convict the world of sin, 39:54 and of righteousness, and of judgment... " 39:56 Ryan: Hmmm... Lomacang: Now watch this, 39:58 if the convicting voice of the Spirit of God is shut off... 40:02 that to me is the highest form of blasphemy. 40:07 Panel: Hmmm... 40:08 Lomacang: People think that blasphemy just simply means 40:10 I'm claiming that I am God or that I can forgive sin. 40:13 That's not the only... 40:14 when you look at the word "blasphemy" it's far broader. 40:17 The reason why those two examples are very prominent... 40:19 very popular is because the Jews had accused Jesus 40:23 of claiming to forgive sins and claiming to heal... 40:27 they said it was a prerogative that belonged only to God. 40:29 They said He blasphemed by saying, 40:32 "He has a function that should only be perpetrated by God. " 40:37 But Jesus said... 40:39 but the apostles said something... 40:41 Apostle Peter... when he was being stoned 40:43 he said something that sealed the fate of the Jews. 40:47 He said, "You are just like your fathers... 40:50 you resist the Spirit of God just like they did. " 40:53 And when you look at that, what happened? 40:56 Their fate was sealed... 40:58 that was the last appeal to the Jewish leaders 41:00 and their fate was sealed. 41:01 So, blasphemy is not just claiming to... 41:04 a prerogative that belongs to God alone, 41:06 but resisting the only power that can open to your eyes 41:11 what sin is and then lead you to salvation 41:14 and to an understanding of the truth. 41:15 So, that's why Matthew 12 and verse 31 says, 41:19 "Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy 41:23 will be forgiven men: 41:25 but the blasphemy against the Spirit 41:27 will not be forgiven men. " 41:29 Ryan: That's right... amen... thank you Pastor for that. 41:32 All right, Ms. Jill Morikone, we're coming back to you 41:35 and this person whose name is Madeline 41:38 and they're asking this question pertaining to James 4. 41:42 It says: James 4:17 makes it look as though 41:45 knowledge is a liability. 41:47 This makes me feel concerned for my friends 41:50 who I have shared the truth of the Sabbath 41:53 and other doctrinal points clearly presented in Scripture. 41:56 How can one not see the truth as a liability 42:00 since we are judged according to the light we have received? 42:04 It almost makes their prior state more favorable 42:08 than after truth was presented to them 42:10 and they did not receive it. 42:12 Jill: Thank you so much Madeline for that question. 42:16 I just want to read James 4:17. 42:18 It says, "Therefore to him who knows to do good, 42:21 and does not do it, to him it is sin. " 42:25 I want to flip back to Ezekiel. 42:29 Ezekiel chapter 33... 42:31 we're going to pick it up in verse 6. 42:34 "If the watchman sees the sword coming, 42:36 and does not blow the trumpet, 42:38 and the people are not warned; 42:40 and the sword comes and takes any person from among them, 42:44 he is taken away in his iniquity; 42:46 but his blood I will require at the watchman's hand. 42:52 So you, son of man, 42:54 I have made you a watchman for the house of Israel; 42:56 therefore you shall hear a word from my mouth, 42:59 and warn them for me. " 43:02 Yes it is true that we are accountable 43:05 for the knowledge we have 43:06 but if you know truth... 43:09 if you know the Word of God, 43:11 it is your God-given responsibility 43:15 to share that truth with someone else 43:19 and if you do not share, 43:21 God will require that at your hand. 43:24 It is a serious responsibility to know truth... 43:28 it is a serious responsibility to share truth. 43:31 I want to share with you an encouragement. 43:33 If you might be thinking as you reference... 43:36 well, if I share with them now... they're responsible... 43:38 is that making them liable? 43:40 What are you sharing with them? 43:42 The Word of God is quick and powerful. 43:45 Do you want them to be convicted? 43:47 Share the Word of God. 43:48 The Word of God has converting power. 43:51 Do you want their life to be transformed? 43:54 Share with them the Word of God. 43:56 The Word of God is a lamp to our feet and a light to our path. 44:00 Do you want your neighbors to stumble? 44:02 Do you want them to walk in darkness? 44:04 Do you want them to walk in depression? 44:06 Do you want them to walk in sadness? 44:08 No... 44:10 I want the people around me to know the love of Jesus. 44:14 I want the people around me 44:16 to know the peace of Christ that passes all understanding. 44:20 I want the people around me to know the Word of God 44:24 and to know that they can be changed and transformed 44:27 by His Word. 44:28 So, do not be afraid to speak truth. 44:31 Do not be afraid to share truth with those around you. 44:35 Ryan: Hmmm... Panel: Amen... amen. 44:36 Ryan: Praise the Lord... but to preach a sermon on that, 44:39 it was done there... amen to that. 44:42 You know, that's a wonderful thing about 44:43 and as Jill said there... 44:45 the Word of God is quick... it's powerful... 44:46 it's sharper than any two-edged sword. 44:48 We don't have to wonder about... 44:50 you know, if there's answers to these questions 44:52 because God's Word provides the answers 44:53 and so, again, I want to encourage you... 44:55 if you're watching right now and joining us 44:57 in this 3ABN Bible-Question-and-Answer time, 44:59 submit your question to us right there in the Chat Section 45:02 they'll bring it out here to us 45:04 and we will answer it right here. 45:05 I guess we'll keep moving on. 45:07 The next question is coming from Phil 45:10 and I'm going to ask you this question, Shelley, 45:12 Phil says: I am thinking that God gave the Ten Commandments 45:17 each one to counter errors from the years of slavery in Egypt, 45:21 these ten still help us to avoid these same sins, so... 45:26 Shelley: Okay, interesting question... 45:28 I'm not sure I'm going to answer it to your satisfaction 45:31 but here's what I'll say. 45:33 We know that 1st John chapter 3 and verse 5 says, 45:41 excuse me... chapter 3 and verse 4... 45:45 says that whoever commits sin, commits lawlessness... 45:50 sin is lawlessness. 45:52 Those are sins of commission. 45:55 What Jill was just answering was James 4:17... says: 45:59 If you know to do good and you don't do it, 46:02 then that's sin to you... that's sin of omission. 46:06 Also, the Bible says 46:07 that anything that is not of faith is sin... 46:10 so, let me ask you this, did the devil sin? 46:13 God had a law in heaven. 46:17 We see the Ten Commandments... 46:20 all of the commandments are found in Genesis. 46:24 God didn't just come up with these Ten Commandments 46:27 at Mount Sinai. 46:29 As a matter of fact, in Genesis... where is that? 20 46:34 Genesis 26 and verse 5, 46:38 when God was renewing the Abrahamic Covenant, 46:43 which is the Covenant of Redemption... 46:45 the Lamb that was slain from the foundation of the world, 46:48 who would save us by grace through faith... 46:52 He renew... He... God renewed this Covenant with Isaac 46:57 and the reason He said... 46:59 even though Abraham was made righteous by faith, 47:02 the reason he was renewing the covenant is because 47:06 Abraham obeyed My voice... kept My charge... 47:09 My Commandments... My Statutes and My Laws. 47:11 In the Hebrew, the word for the Ten Commandments 47:18 means: ten words... 47:21 in the Greek, it's the same... Decalogue... ten words. 47:25 It is given to us in a future tense and a double negative 47:30 as promises. 47:32 When God came down 47:33 and gave His Ten Commandments to the people, 47:36 these are commandments that we find are kept... 47:39 they knew not to have idols 47:41 and knew it was wrong to murder... 47:42 they knew it was wrong to commit adultery... 47:44 in the Old... I mean in Genesis... 47:48 way before Mount Sinai... 47:50 and it's interesting when He comes down, 47:52 God is saying, "Hey, you know what? 47:55 You're in covenant relationship with Me. " 47:57 He's speaking and He's saying, 47:59 "You have no other God's before Me... 48:01 you will not bow down to idols... 48:03 you will not take My name in vain... 48:05 you will remember My Sabbath... 48:08 remember... it's something they knew before, 48:11 because you're going to rejoice in spending time with Me. 48:15 You will honor your mother and father... 48:18 you won't commit murder... you won't commit adultery... 48:20 you won't steal... you won't bear false testimony 48:22 and you're not going to covet... 48:24 why? Because that's what living in covenant relationship with Me 48:28 is all about... 48:29 so, did God give Ten Commandments 48:33 to go with those years... 48:35 I would say that the Ten Commandments 48:38 were long before 48:40 and you see a parallel between the Ten Plagues 48:44 there could likely be. 48:46 Ryan: Hmmm... all right... 48:48 beautiful, beautiful explanation thank you. 48:50 All right, Pastor Dinzey, I'm going to come to you 48:52 with this next question. 48:54 This comes from Jonterrias from Tennessee... 48:57 and he says a very good question, I think. 49:00 He says: How can I get re-baptized 49:03 into the Seventh-day Adventist Church? 49:06 I'm only 17 years old 49:08 and I had been studying the Bible for months. 49:11 When I found out that the true Bible Sabbath was Saturday, 49:15 the seventh day of the week, I was amazed. 49:18 So, they're wanting to know how can they get re-baptized 49:20 into the Seventh-day Adventist Church? 49:22 Dinzey: Thank you very much, that's a wonderful question. 49:25 Praise the Lord for that desire 49:27 and this is something that you can see the idea 49:31 of re-baptism is found in the book of Acts 49:33 when one of the Apostles encounter some people... 49:38 I think it was Paul... 49:39 and they said, "Have you received the Holy Spirit?" 49:41 "Well, I haven't even heard of the Holy Spirit... " 49:43 and so he... he brought this teaching to them 49:46 and... and they received the Holy Spirit 49:48 and they were baptized. 49:49 So, the idea about re-baptism when you're coming new knowledge 49:52 is Biblical. 49:54 So, how do you get re-baptized? 49:55 First, I would suggest you talk to the Pastor of the Church. 49:59 Present your... your desire to be re-baptized 50:04 and he will ask you some questions 50:06 about what your beliefs are to see if you identify 50:10 with the Biblical doctrines 50:13 and maybe want to do some additional studies, 50:16 perhaps, you may want to learn some more, 50:19 but re-baptism is a marvelous idea... 50:22 is a marvelous experience to be re-baptized in the name of Jesus 50:26 the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit 50:28 as its in... in Matthew chapter 28 50:30 and I... first step again is to talk to the Pastor 50:34 about your desire and you will see that it's... 50:38 it's a wonderful experience. 50:40 Panel: Amen. 50:41 Ryan: Amen, praise the Lord, 50:43 thank you, Brother, so much for... for answering that. 50:44 Pastor Lomacang, I'm going to come to you 50:46 for this next question. 50:47 Lomacang: Okay. 50:48 Ryan: This person says, comes from Helena, actually 50:53 and they say: I've had a theory for some time 50:56 about the rebellion in heaven. 50:58 If God had made Gabriel the Head of all the angels back then 51:04 as he is now... instead of Lucifer, 51:07 maybe there might not have been a rebellion. 51:10 What do you think? 51:12 Give me your thoughts on this. 51:14 I'd like to hear the thoughts of Pastor Lomacang on this topic. 51:19 Would be very appreciative. 51:21 So, they're asking about the rebellion in heaven 51:24 and the connection to Gabriel replacing Lucifer, so... 51:28 Dinzey: I've never heard that question before. 51:31 Lomacang: You had to dig really deep to get that question. 51:35 You probably didn't have anything else to do. 51:37 Ryan: That's a wondering mind, right? 51:38 Lomacang: That comes with a question that could be... 51:40 let me encourage you 51:41 and I'm going to say this out of complete respect, 51:44 not in any impact to your intellect... 51:48 I have seen children... young children 51:51 corner their dads with questions 51:54 that even the dad couldn't answer 51:56 because they kept asking, "Why? Why? Why? Why?" 52:01 Well, this doesn't necessarily follow the category 52:03 of repetition 52:05 but it's a good thing to consider. 52:06 But one of the reasons why I say that... 52:10 what happened did not catch God by surprise 52:14 is in the book of Isaiah. 52:16 Let's go to Isaiah 52:18 and if I mention the book, Jill's going to know 52:20 and maybe some of you might know exactly where I'm going. 52:23 Isaiah 46, okay... 52:26 now, this is... this is the beauty of it. 52:31 If doing things differently 52:33 would have had a different outcome, 52:36 then, I could say by posing this question 52:39 and I want to just say this very lightly... 52:42 by posing this question... 52:44 this could be one where God could say today, 52:46 "You know, maybe I should have done that 52:49 and a lot of things would have been different. 52:50 However, Isaiah 46 verses 9 and 10, 52:54 gives me a different insight. 52:55 It says that nothing is surprising to God. 53:00 As a matter of fact... and we'll go to another one in 53:02 Hebrews 4 verse 6. 53:04 As a matter of fact, I'll have Jill go to that one 53:06 but look at what the Bible talks about 53:09 and nothing catches God by surprise. 53:12 He says in verse 9 of Hebrews 46, 53:15 "Remember the former things of old... " 53:17 Jill: Isaiah 46. 53:18 Lomacang: Isaiah 46 verses 9 and 10. 53:20 He says, "Remember the former things of old... " 53:22 so, if we pause for a moment and start breaking this down, 53:24 remember how things used to be... 53:26 remember things way back then... 53:27 "Remember the former things of old... " 53:29 what we're doing right now is 53:30 considering something... a former thing... of old. 53:33 He says, "For I am God, and there is no other; 53:35 I am God, and there is none like me. " 53:37 He's saying, "Okay, 53:38 so as you consider the former things of old, 53:40 don't forget... I am God, and there is none like me. " 53:43 Did the former things of old catch God by surprise? 53:48 Verse 10, "Declaring the end from the beginning, 53:53 and from ancient times things that are not yet done. " 53:58 So, the actions of Lucifer 54:01 and then the subsequent replacement of Lucifer 54:04 by Gabriel, didn't catch God by surprise. 54:07 That's one of the reasons why today 54:09 buildings are built with fire extinguishers 54:12 and fire alarms. 54:13 We don't know who is going to be in the building 54:16 when that fire alarm is activated 54:17 or who is going to need that fire extinguisher... 54:20 but the provision is made 54:21 and so, we'll look back and somebody... 54:23 I'll just one of our camera guys... 54:25 I'll say Ian... he's Floor Director today... 54:27 maybe Eric... 54:28 one of the guys that are working behind the scenes 54:30 or maybe one of our young ladies... Jamie... 54:32 if anything ever happened to the building, 54:34 any one of those three could say, 54:36 "I am so glad that 3ABN had the foresight 54:40 to put a fire extinguisher there. 54:42 What if it wasn't there? 54:44 And then 3ABN can say, "We thought this could happen, 54:47 so we put those things in place. " 54:49 God put everything in place that needed to be there 54:52 because He knew that these things could occur. 54:54 So, Lucifer falling was not a surprise. 54:57 Gabriel taking his place was not a surprise. 55:01 God always has everything in order 55:03 like I hope organized people do 55:05 just in case an emergency arises. 55:08 Shelley: Could I add something to that because 55:10 you know, that is such an interesting question... 55:13 I've never heard that 55:14 and the thought that came to my mind was this... 55:18 even if Lucifer had not been a covering cherub, 55:21 I think when someone's got evil in their heart 55:24 and pride rises up, 55:26 I think he would still have sinned... maybe even faster 55:30 because he was just a jealous-natured person 55:34 and he still could have rebelled against the Lord. 55:37 He still could have taken a third of the angels with him. 55:40 So, I don't think that it just had to do 55:44 with the fact that he was a covering cherub. 55:47 I think all the angels were created perfect 55:50 and I just think he was one of those bad dudes. 55:54 The reason why I asked Jill to read Hebrews 4... you have it? 55:58 Jill: Hebrews 4:6... 56:00 Shelley: Oh, I thought you were through. 56:01 Jill: Is that what you want me to read? Hebrews 4:6? 56:03 Lomacang: No, Hebrews 4:12. 56:04 Jill: 4:12... okay... oh yeah, okay. 56:06 Lomacang: Now watch this, 56:07 if the Word of God could do that could God do that? 56:09 Jill: See, "For the word of God is living and powerful, 56:12 and sharper than any two-edged sword, 56:14 piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, 56:17 joints and marrow, 56:19 and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents 56:21 of the heart. 56:23 Lomacang: Okay, if the Word of God can do that, 56:25 can God discern the thoughts and intents of one's heart? 56:29 He can. 56:31 Ryan: Amen, praise the Lord. 56:32 Lomacang: Lucifer didn't catch Him by surprise. 56:34 Even Jesus once said, 56:35 "Why are you thinking that way?" 56:36 Ryan: Amen, praise the Lord. 56:38 Lomacang: Lucifer didn't catch God by surprise, 56:40 that's why I'm glad I'm on God's side. 56:42 We're on God's side. 56:43 Ryan: Amen, you know what? 56:45 We're coming down to the last like, minute and a half here 56:47 and I just want to remind you... 56:49 we're not finished today with Bible Q and A 56:51 because actually, about an hour from now... 56:54 it's 7 p. m. Eastern Time, 56:56 we're going to come back with another hour 56:58 of Bible Q and A right here during this 3ABN Session, 57:01 so, you're going to want to come back 57:02 and any questions that you might have put in the Chat Section 57:05 that we didn't get to in this hour, 57:07 we're going to roll that thing over to the next hour 57:09 when we come back 57:10 and we're going to answer those Bible questions then 57:12 so, continue to put in your Bible Questions 57:15 in that Chat Section 57:16 because again, 7 p. m. Eastern Time... 57:19 we're going to come back to another 3ABN 57:22 Bible Q and A Session. 57:24 So, guys, thank you... appreciate you so much 57:28 and, you know, I also just want to remind our Viewers 57:30 that are watching during this time, 57:32 that again, you can watch 3ABN on Mondays 57:34 and you can see a weekly... a weekly dose of this 57:37 of 3ABN Bible Q and A in which we're just... 57:40 it's rapid fire... 57:41 rapid fire... we're answering many, many, many questions. 57:43 Jill: You can catch it on YouTube 57:46 which means, you can watch it on demand any time. 57:48 Ryan: Amen, so absolutely, so Ms. Jill's recognized 57:50 we have our YouTube Channel, 57:52 you can go and watch that any time you want 57:54 because we upload our 3ABN Sabbath School Panel... 57:57 got to love Sabbath School, right? 57:58 And we also have our Bible Q and A Programs... 58:00 Today Programs on our YouTube Channel 58:02 and also on demand at our new 3ABN Plus... 58:05 you can go to 3abnplus. 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