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Series Code: BBF
Program Code: BBF170001S
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00:03 Hi, I'm Billy Blackwood.
00:05 Through my years in music ministry, 00:07 I've had the privilege of meeting many great people 00:09 and making a lot of great friends. 00:14 Some have been friends for literally decades 00:15 and some have been more recent. 00:19 It's my hope that 00:20 you will enjoy getting a glimpse behind the scenes 00:22 and into the real lives of my friends. 00:25 Sit back and enjoy 00:26 as you watch Billy Blackwood and Friends. 00:53 Without Him, 00:56 I could do nothing 01:03 Without Him, 01:06 I'd surely fail 01:13 Without Him, 01:15 I would be drifting 01:22 Like a ship 01:25 Without a sail 01:38 Without Him, 01:42 I would be dying 01:49 Without Him, 01:52 I'd be enslaved 01:59 Without Him, 02:02 Life would be worthless 02:08 But with Jesus, 02:11 Thank God 02:14 I'm saved 02:20 Jesus, 02:24 Oh Jesus 02:29 Do you know Him today 02:34 Please don't turn Him away 02:39 Oh Jesus, 02:44 My Jesus 02:50 Without Him, 02:53 How lost I would be 03:01 Without Him, 03:04 How lost I would be 03:31 Hi, I'm Billy Blackwood. 03:32 Welcome to Billy Blackwood and Friends. 03:33 My guest today is my dear friend, Dave Clark. 03:36 I'm so glad to have Dave with us. 03:37 We've known each other since a long time. 03:40 And Dave is a prolific songwriter. 03:42 You may not know Dave, 03:43 but you know, a lot of his songs 03:44 and we'll hope to acquaint you with some of those today. 03:47 Welcome Dave. Great to have you here. 03:49 Thank you. It's good to be here, Billy. 03:50 Good to see you again. Good to see you. 03:51 We have known each other for a long, long time. 03:54 We were what teenagers maybe? 03:57 I was, you were quite a bit older 03:59 if I remember right. 04:00 It's already started. 04:02 This has been going on for 42 years. 04:06 It's good to see you in a tie. 04:08 Thank you. 04:10 I dressed up just for you. 04:12 I appreciate that. 04:14 You when I first knew you was at a music school 04:19 and you came down from Jackson, Michigan... 04:21 I did. 04:22 To be a student at the school 04:24 and thus our friendship started 04:26 and there were so many things that after, 04:29 you know, time went on, you were there so long. 04:31 There were stories that we probably can't tell 04:34 today that... 04:35 Some of them were true. 04:38 I still get blamed for a lot of stuff 04:40 that I have no part of. 04:41 A lot of mischievous things we did as younger fellows 04:44 that were a lot of fun at the time. 04:46 And we probably would scold kids 04:48 if we saw them doing those things today. 04:49 But we've had a lot of great memories. 04:52 You were a kid who wanted to be a writer. 04:56 That's all I ever wanted to do, but it was a call. 05:00 And I see a lot of kids today 05:02 and they're getting out of college, 05:04 some of them and still really don't have 05:06 that one passion that, 05:07 that I'm so thankful 05:08 God put my heart as a little kid 05:11 and I've gotten to do some neat things 05:13 through the years, 05:15 but a lot of people will write a song 05:17 as a means to want to become an artist 05:19 or want to be a producer or wanna... 05:21 And for me, it was the opposite. 05:22 Everything God's let me do along the way. 05:24 It was also that for me, 05:25 so that I could be a better writer 05:27 and I've gotten to learn from some of the best. 05:29 And it's pretty humbling. 05:32 Such great songs through the years. 05:35 Share some of your experiences, if you will, 05:37 about maybe a song that came that you didn't expect 05:41 or a song that... 05:43 I don't know, 05:45 I don't want to put words in your mouth, you... 05:46 No, I love the songs, 05:48 but you know, maybe it's just me, 05:51 but I can tell sometimes I may not be right, 05:54 but in my mind I am. 05:56 When I'm driving down the road and I'm listening to the radio, 06:00 I can tell, 06:01 I think if the song that I'm hearing 06:03 has a story behind it. 06:06 And sometimes I listen to songs 06:08 and I think, well, that may have just been 06:10 from a co-write that was scheduled 06:12 and the older I get, I just try not to be, 06:15 I don't want my name on those songs. 06:17 It's more than just getting a song recorded 06:19 and it's... 06:21 If it doesn't move me enough to block out a day 06:24 or a time to work on it, 06:26 I'm probably, you know, 06:28 that's not gonna be the song I want you to remember of mine. 06:32 And there've been real special moments 06:34 along the way. 06:35 And some of those have been the songs 06:36 that didn't make the charts, 06:38 but it was, it was something that there was a nugget, 06:40 there was something that moved me enough 06:42 to sit down and chase that idea. 06:45 Years ago, I had an idea for a song 06:47 called the first family tree. 06:49 I was gonna write a song 06:50 about the cross being the tree 06:52 that brought us all together. 06:53 And then I just gave that, hook away on TV, 06:55 I realized that. 06:58 I wrote a verse 07:00 and I couldn't figure out where to go with it. 07:02 And I had this verse I felt really good about, 07:05 and I don't write stuff down. 07:07 I figure if it's good enough. I remember it. 07:09 It was 10 years went by. 07:11 I had this verse, nothing, nowhere to go with it. 07:15 And I got called into a meeting 07:16 with Phillips, Craig and Dean. 07:18 Shawn Craig says, 07:19 "Dave, I got this idea for a song, 07:21 but I don't know how to get started with it." 07:23 He said, 07:24 "I picture this little boy. 07:26 And he lived on an Island 07:27 and there was a wall all the way around the Island. 07:29 And one morning the boy wakes up 07:30 and he goes to the edge of the water 07:31 and the wall is gone. 07:33 And he lifts up his hands and he says, 07:35 so this is how it feels to be free." 07:40 He said, "How do you start that?" 07:43 And I said, 07:45 "What about this? 07:46 There's a wall 07:47 that has been standing 07:49 since the day that Adam fell 07:50 and sin is where it started and sin is why it held, 07:52 speaking as a prisoner who was there, 07:53 but lived to tell, I remember how it felt. 07:55 And Shawn just looked at me. 07:56 It was the only time in my life 07:58 somebody thought I was brilliant. 08:00 It was word for word lyric, I started 10 years earlier. 08:05 Wow. So God was... 08:06 God planted something right. 08:09 He was waiting 08:10 until He had something better for that idea. 08:14 Dave, I know that 08:16 there were years 08:18 that you struggled with a physical situation, 08:21 that there didn't seem to be any answer for. 08:25 Would you mind sharing just a little bit about that? 08:28 I don't talk about it a lot 08:30 and yet if you listen to my songs, 08:32 it's all there. 08:33 I drew water from that well, for many, many years. 08:38 Nineteen years I dealt with a throat disease 08:41 that the top layer tissues basically gone. 08:44 And it would be like a canker sore 08:47 or something only was the whole throat. 08:50 And 19 years we'd been to Mayo clinic, 08:53 used to go over a couple of years 08:54 to Vanderbilt, 08:56 I've been to all of the big hospitals. 08:57 And basically they said, you know, 09:00 it's not so rare that we don't know what it is. 09:04 It's just the level of what you experience it 09:07 is what makes it unique. 09:08 And we heard about a medicine in Guatemala. 09:12 We heard about a lady that went there 09:13 and she had something similar. 09:15 And she met with this little doctor 09:17 and took this medicine. 09:19 And within two weeks it was completely gone. 09:21 And so I'm like, I got to know what this is. 09:25 I don't know how to get to Guatemala. 09:26 That's a long drive, it sounds like. 09:29 And that Christmas, a friend of mine, 09:31 a doctor in Ohio called and said 09:33 in March, I've got to go on a mission trip to Guatemala. 09:38 The only doctor I really knew is going to the only place 09:41 that I really needed a doctor to go. 09:44 And so I told him my story 09:45 and he said, well, that makes that's the reason I'm going. 09:47 And I didn't understand it. 09:48 And he got down there 09:50 and all I had was the doctor's name. 09:53 It's a big country. 09:54 Two days later, he called from Guatemala to say that 09:58 he was stationed in the same little village 09:59 with the same little doctor. 10:02 And he said, David, 10:03 what he's describing is not a bush drug, 10:05 but it's combining some things 10:07 that we wouldn't have thought of. 10:09 He said, it might work in two weeks 10:10 and we begin to count to 14. 10:12 And we had a prayer chain of people 10:14 going around the country. 10:15 And 13th day I went on a writing trip 10:20 and there was still no change. 10:21 And by that time, you know, people would quit asking 10:24 and went to Houston, Texas. 10:30 And on that 13th day, 10:31 it was pretty tough 'cause we had... 10:33 We'd put all of our faith into this. 10:36 All right, God, you get this, this and this. 10:38 You got a miracle coming. 10:41 On the 14th day, I woke up 10:44 and the throat tissue was reformed, 10:47 no scars, no, 10:50 it's been 26 years to the day. 10:54 Never had another drop of medicine, 10:56 never dealt with that issue ever again. 10:58 God did it. 11:00 He did it right, did it completely. 11:02 And it's still holding on 11:04 and the writing trip we were on, 11:07 I met a guy 11:08 I'd never met before on that trip. 11:09 And we wrote a song 11:11 that morning of the day that God healed me 11:12 called, will you be the one. 11:14 I was at Al Denson's house. 11:17 I love the stories. 11:19 I love what God does in the songs. 11:21 Yeah. Yeah. 11:23 Dave, there's a song that you've written it. 11:26 I would love for our viewers to hear. 11:31 Your dad was an incredible guy 11:36 and because I've known you 11:39 and been friends with you for so long. 11:40 I had the pleasure of knowing him. 11:46 One of my great memories of you 11:50 is just a couple of years ago 11:54 at one of our concerts, 11:55 Blackwood Brothers concert in Clarksville, Tennessee, 11:59 and you and your dad came up to the concert. 12:02 He was just... 12:04 He was the real deal. 12:06 He really was. 12:09 You know, loved, 12:14 loved the Lord, loved his family 12:17 was so proud of you 12:20 just was absolutely beside himself 12:24 at your success 12:25 in what God had done in your life has done. 12:27 And fortunately for me, just in my, 12:32 I mean, it's not about me, 12:33 but for me it was fortunate 12:35 that I happened not to be on the road 12:39 when your dad passed away. 12:40 And I had the wonderful honor of being at his funeral. 12:44 And I know you have a story and a song about him 12:49 and his old guitar 12:51 that I would love for you to share if you will? 12:56 He was all the things that you said 12:58 and pretty unique relationship that we have 13:03 because they were young when they got married. 13:04 And I was the only boy. 13:09 He and I never had one crossword our entire life. 13:13 And I know how unique that is. 13:16 And I've also experienced that with my son and... 13:24 When you talk, even before this started today, 13:26 about a new normal of getting used to life 13:28 without your hero. 13:30 And he... 13:34 Mom would call 13:36 after dad passed away 13:37 and she'd say, 13:39 Hey, we come get his clothes and we'd take them, 13:42 just give them to somebody. 13:44 And then the next week it would be, 13:45 hey, come get his tools. 13:47 And if we know anybody that can use them, 13:51 and about a month after we lost dad, 13:53 she called and she said, will you come get his guitars? 13:56 He wanted you to have them. 14:00 I wasn't ready for it. 14:02 I didn't want anybody else to have them, 14:03 but I wasn't ready for them. 14:06 And you know, 14:08 Gibson and I brought it today. 14:14 And the song you ask about, I've only done it twice. 14:17 Probably will never do it again after today, 14:18 but would love to share that with you. 14:22 Great. 14:24 Listen as my dear buddy, Dave Clark sings for you 14:28 a very special song, This Old Guitar. 14:45 This old sole guitar 14:48 Back in 1953 14:53 He bought it used When he was only 17 15:00 He didn't have much 15:02 But the good news was $25 was just enough 15:07 So he took it home In the cardboard case 15:13 No one thought he would 15:16 But he learned to play 15:19 This old guitar 15:33 This old guitar 15:35 Can you imagine What he saw 15:41 Down through the years 15:43 From where had leaned Against the wall 15:48 He lived life well, 15:49 But he never stopped Raising his family 15:52 And working three jobs 15:55 But even then, 15:57 He still found a way 16:01 When I was only twelve 16:04 He taught me to play 16:07 This old guitar 16:14 He was proud to be my father 16:17 And I was proud to be his kid 16:21 He'd tell me I look more like him 16:24 The older that I get 16:28 He built the house we lived in 16:31 He drove the family car 16:36 And he taught his children How to sing 16:40 With this old guitar 16:54 This old guitar 16:57 On the night I got the call 17:02 I saw it standing by his chair Against the wall 17:10 I said goodbye, There were no regrets 17:13 Will have forever When I see him next 17:18 But even then, Even though he's gone 17:24 I'm gonna honor him 17:27 With a few more songs 17:31 This old guitar 18:02 Every now and then When I just can't sleep 18:06 I play a song that he taught me 18:10 If you listen close 18:14 You can hear it ring 18:17 Wildwood flower 18:21 on black diamond strings 18:25 In this old guitar 19:02 A phenomenal song. 19:04 What a great story 19:06 to learn more about Dave and his songs and his stories. 19:09 You can find him on the web at daveclarkwrites.com, 19:15 daveclarkwrites.com. 19:18 You told me about a new song and as we close today, 19:23 I mean, you're so great 19:24 at telling the stories behind things 19:26 and how they happen. 19:27 Would you share with our viewers 19:30 about this new song? 19:31 Sure. 19:33 The only arena in the world I'm confident in 19:36 is talking to young writers. 19:38 It's not that I have the answers. 19:39 It's just, there's so many things 19:40 I wish someone had told me 19:42 when I was starting out, that I wanna share with them. 19:44 So I love to teach. 19:45 And last October, 19:48 right up the road here in St. Charles, Missouri, 19:52 I was teaching a class was packed out full of writers. 19:55 And the thing I was trying to get across in that class was 19:58 you gotta quit writing the same song. 20:00 I gotta quit writing the same song. 20:02 If it's not new 20:04 and God's mercies are new every day, 20:06 I want the song ideas to be new as well. 20:09 And my wife years ago heard me teach in the class. 20:12 And she said, you know, you'd be more effective 20:14 if you use notes. 20:15 Well, she's a teacher. 20:16 I'm not a note reader or taker. 20:19 And so, because of what she said 20:22 in the year, since I always have a laptop open, 20:24 as if I'm looking at notes, 20:26 that way everybody wins a little bit. 20:29 So I've got a laptop open. 20:31 I'm just teaching away 20:32 everything I can think of to say 20:34 and the light's not going on. 20:36 I can feel it, it's not, they're not getting it. 20:39 And it had to be a God thing. 20:41 It dawned on me, 20:43 there was a poem or a prayer 20:46 that was credited to Sir Francis Drake 20:48 back in the 1600s 20:49 called "Disturb us Lord." 20:52 And it had lines in it like, 20:54 "Disturb us Lord, if we fail to see the symptom, 21:01 because we're sailed too close to the shore" 21:02 and all about living safe. 21:05 And I had my laptop open. 21:06 So I just Googled it while I'm talking. 21:08 And I start reading it and God came into that room 21:12 and they were crying and I was crying. 21:14 And then I realized, hey, I'm sharing a great idea 21:16 with a room full of writers, 21:18 I need to get away from this. 21:20 So I called, I left there and I called Tony Wood, 21:22 an amazing songwriter. 21:24 I called Tony. 21:25 I said, 21:26 "Hey, here's what happened in this room. 21:28 Go back and read that prayer 21:29 and see if there's anything in there 21:30 that moves you the way it did me." 21:33 He called and said, "This is incredible." 21:36 So we started working on it. 21:37 We wrote called Lee Black in to write music. 21:40 And we got a song called Disturb us Lord. 21:43 And it's our prayer. 21:44 It's of all the songs from the years. 21:46 This is what I, if I had to leave it with one. 21:50 Dave, I love you. 21:54 Appreciate your friendship. 21:55 Thank you, Billy. 21:57 And just celebrate what God has done through you. 22:03 There are, we won't know till we, 22:07 you know, get to heaven. 22:08 How many people are there 22:10 because a lyric 22:12 that came through your pen went to paper 22:16 and changed somebody's heart. 22:19 And I know that I know you well enough to know that 22:23 heart is what you're about. 22:25 And one of the reasons I love you. 22:27 And one of the reasons I'm so thankful to have you 22:28 as a friend and to have you here today. 22:30 And I know, you know, you may be watching 22:33 and I don't know if you have a friend like Dave, 22:37 I hope you do. 22:38 I hope you have a group of people, 22:40 at least one 22:42 that you can walk through life with 22:44 and celebrate the Lord with. 22:47 But let me just share today. 22:50 If you don't, there is someone, 22:53 the word says that 22:54 He is a friend 22:56 who sticks closer than a brother. 23:00 Jesus is the best friend you'll ever have. 23:03 He's the most exciting person you'll ever meet, 23:06 and He's the only savior you'll ever need. 23:09 And I'm just here to tell you 23:10 nothing holds a candle to Jesus Christ. 23:14 God bless you. 23:16 Thank you so much for watching today. 23:26 I'm sure He must have been surprised 23:33 At where this Road had taken him 23:40 Cause never in a million lives 23:47 Would he have dreamed Of Bethlehem 23:55 And standing at the manger 23:59 He saw with his own eyes 24:04 The message from the angel 24:08 Come to life, 24:12 And Joseph said Why me, 24:16 I'm just a simple man of trade 24:22 Why Him, 24:24 with all the rulers In the world 24:31 Why here, 24:35 Inside this stable Filled with hay 24:40 Why her, 24:42 She's just an ordinary girl 24:50 Now I'm not one to second guess 24:55 What angels have to say 25:01 But this is such a strange way 25:05 To save the world 25:14 To think Of how it could have been 25:21 If Jesus had come As He deserved 25:28 There would have been No Bethlehem 25:35 No lowly shepherds 25:38 At His birth 25:43 But Joseph knew the reason 25:47 Love had to reach so far 25:52 And as he held the Savior 25:56 In his arms 26:00 He must have thought Why me, 26:05 I'm just a simple man of trade 26:10 Why Him, 26:12 With all the rulers In the world 26:19 Why here, 26:23 Inside this stable Filled with hay 26:28 Why her, 26:31 She's just an ordinary girl 26:38 And now I'm not one To second guess 26:43 What angels have to say 26:49 But this is such a strange way 26:53 To save the world 26:59 And now I'm not one To second guess 27:04 What angels have to say 27:10 This is such a strange way 27:15 Such a strange way 27:21 To save the world 27:30 This is such a strange way 27:35 To save the world |
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