Participants: Atonte Myers, Ivor Myers
Series Code: BOF
Program Code: BOF000017
00:14 Welcome to "Battles of Faith".
00:16 We're your hosts Ivor and Atonte Myers. 00:19 Today we're continuing our discussion 00:22 about the French Revolution. 00:24 The title of today's program is 00:25 'The Science of Music and the Beast'. 00:28 Now, I know many of you are wondering 00:30 'what are they going to say? How does the French revolution 00:33 affect the music of today?' 00:35 Well, if you're about to change the channel 00:37 or go to another room, you're not going to want 00:39 to do that. You're going to want to sit down, 00:40 grab your Bible and go through the Scriptures with us 00:43 as we study this very important topic. 00:47 - Yes. We have been dealing with the French Revolution, 00:49 we've been discussing the Beast from the abyss 00:53 and showing how this beast, that rises up from the abyss, 00:57 according to Revelation 11:7 has a wide effect 01:03 on what we see today happening with our young people. 01:05 We are going to be looking today at music. 01:09 We have seen already evolution, 01:11 arising from this beast from the abyss, 01:16 from the French Revolution in our previous program... 01:18 sexual perversion, we have looked at the issue of 01:22 humanism and seen all these principles rising 01:25 out from this profetic event found in Revelation 11. 01:30 Again, I want to look at our graphic, 01:32 first graphic rather, which we have been 01:35 actually putting up there through previous shows 01:40 speaking of this dissemination of the French Revolution, 01:44 the principles that came out of the French Revolution 01:47 and it says here: 01:48 [text on the screen] 02:01 And that's in the book 'Education', page 228. 02:04 What we see here is that the principles that arose out of 02:07 the French Revolution, that led to the French Revolution 02:10 are now going out on a worldwide scale. 02:15 So, I'm saying that the French Revolution was 02:16 a test tube that the enemy was using, 02:19 and now, these things, humanism, evolution, sexual permissivness, 02:25 and now we're going to see music, 02:27 are all being the principles that the enemy is trying to use 02:32 and that are now being disseminated 02:34 on a worldwide basis. 02:36 We have a very interesting study today. 02:38 We're going to be looking at a chart we have created 02:43 and it's called 'The Family Tree of Musical Sorcery'. 02:47 If it's sounds interesting, that's because it is interesting 02:52 It's amazing to see the history of the kinds of music 02:56 that we listen to today, and that's what we'll be looking at. 02:59 So, I want to put our first slide up, our first graphic up 03:02 and we are going to see here, at the bottom of this graphic... 03:07 You see this family tree and, right at the bottom, 03:10 it stands the Santa Domingo slave trade. 03:15 I want to give a little history about that. 03:17 In 1492 Columbus discovered a little island or place 03:25 by the name of Hispaniola. 03:27 A little while later, the Spaniards sold this little 03:34 Caraibbean place to the French, and the French 03:39 changed the name from Hispaniola to Santa Domingo. 03:43 And it was here, in Santa Domingo, 03:45 where it became one of the popular centers for slave trade. 03:50 And what would happen is that tha slaves would come in, 03:53 would be brought in to this place and they were 03:58 immediately baptized as Catholics. 04:01 However, they were not allowed to read their Bibles, 04:05 they were not allowed to really understand 04:09 what it was that they were being baptized into. 04:10 What happened is that, these slaves, being brought 04:13 from various parts of Africa were separated so that 04:18 they would not really be able to communicate with each other. 04:21 That communication barrier was broken 04:23 and what happened is that these slaves began to come 04:28 together and to synchronize their various religions. 04:32 So, what they came up with was a religion 04:36 which we know today as voodoo. 04:39 - And it's something that they had in common 04:42 from Africa. 04:43 I mean, they had these religions and these worship services 04:46 in Africa, and the only thing that they could still relate to 04:49 each other was this religion; because they were forced 04:52 to become Catholic and they weren't able to, 04:56 publically, do their religion, 05:00 they had to do it in secrecy. They couldn't publically 05:02 practice their voodoo tradition or religion. 05:04 That's right. So, what happened 05:05 is that you've got this synchronization 05:07 of all thse various gods. 05:09 That's very interesting, because, when you look 05:11 at the prophecy of Revelation 11 05:13 where this beast that rises up from the abyss is... 05:18 A part of the location that is atributed to this beast 05:22 is Sodom and also Egypt. 05:25 We said in previous programs that Egypt was known 05:27 for its denial of God, when Pharaoh said: 05:30 'Who is God that I should serve Him?'. 05:32 But Egypt is also known for its multiplicity of gods. 05:37 You remember, when God was sending those plagues down 05:40 upon the Egyptians, those represented the ten different 05:46 gods, the gods of the water, the gods of the air. 05:49 Egypt was known for its multiplicity of gods and, 05:52 interesting enough, in this place called Santa Domingo 05:56 you've got all these different gods coming together, 06:00 being synchronized by the slaves, 06:04 and you come up with this religion called voodoo. 06:07 Now, what is so special about voodoo. 06:11 Hollywood makes a lot of fun about voodoo today 06:13 and people just shove it off but voodoo is an actual religion. 06:18 - It is. And the appropriate name for it is "vudun". 06:20 It turned to voodoo once, here in America, people 06:24 started to pick it up. But the original name 06:25 was "vudun". 06:27 - That's right. Now, we're going to throw 06:28 another graphic up here and we see here: 06:32 [text on the screen] 06:44 Interestingly enough, Atonte, the central figure of voodoo 06:50 is a serpant... 06:51 And we know that, as we look at the Bible, 06:53 we see that the serpant is symbolic of the Devil, of Satan. 06:59 And so, here you have these gods coming together 07:01 and you have the serpant as the central figure 07:06 and it is described as the religion under which 07:12 all who gather, share the faith. 07:15 This serpant is symbolic to something that, 07:19 according to the Bible, is satanic and wicked. 07:21 Now, we're going to look at another graphic here 07:25 and this graphic descibes what voodoo is about. 07:29 Listen to this: 07:30 [text on the screen] 08:16 - In other words, I like to paraphrase that almost like 08:21 it's the sign language to the gods. 08:23 The different dance movements that they do during 08:25 the voodoo service is an expression without words, 08:29 it's speaking to them. 08:30 - That's right. This is not a coreographed kind of dance. 08:33 We're talking about people who are dancing 08:36 according to what they were listening to, 08:38 according to what they heard. So, I'm going to put 08:40 another graphic up. Listen to this again: 08:43 [text on the screen] 09:20 So, here we have this description of what voodoo is. 09:23 Its key element, its holy instrument is the drum. 09:26 Its key elements are drum and dance. 09:29 And the serpant is the central figure of this voodoo religion. 09:38 Now, I want to read another statement here and, 09:43 by the way, we don't have refferences from these. 09:45 That's because we've got them from web sites 09:47 and these web sites are actually voodoo sites. 09:52 In other words, they explain voodoo. 09:53 So, we don't want to put the source up there, 09:55 but this is research that we share with you. 09:58 Listen to what this says: 10:00 [text on the screen] 10:27 - So, it's very much a part of their ceremony...the dance. 10:32 It is essential for them to be possesed by the spirits. 10:35 - In fact, in the voodoo religion, the dance represents 10:41 a unity of the gods and and the human body. 10:46 They call it that gods are riding the body. 10:50 And that's what happens when they come in, 10:52 when the gods supposedly come in, and 10:54 the body begins to move serpant-like is what they say. 10:57 The spine begins to move in a serpantlike way 11:00 and they say this is the possesion of the gods, 11:04 the gods riding their subjects. 11:06 - And again, I'm sure there are viewers out there thinking: 11:09 "Hey, well, we are Christians, we don't partake in voodoo." 11:12 And so, what does this have to do with the music issues 11:15 that we are facing today? 11:18 - We have been dealing with the French Revolution, 11:23 showing the spirit of anti-Bible and anti-God 11:27 that arose out of that revolution. 11:29 Well, how does this Santa Domingo and voodoo 11:34 tie in with that? 11:35 In 1791, right in the middle of the French Revolution 11:41 something happened on the island of Santa Domingo. 11:43 The slaves of Santa Domingo saw what was happening 11:47 in France. Remember, this is a French Caraibbean island. 11:50 They saw what was happening in Fance, 11:52 and the same spirit of uprising that they saw taking place 11:57 in France as it were imbude them. 12:00 In other words, they looked at what was happening in France 12:02 and said 'We are going to stage an uprising as well'. 12:05 And you have this uprising... 12:09 And, to this day, this Santa Domingo stage the only 12:14 successfull uprising, revolt that was 12:20 a successfull revolt. And at this very time, 12:24 the name of the island was changed to Haiti. 12:29 And that's how we know it today, as Haiti... 12:32 And there, the voodoo is a very intrical part of Haiti. 12:42 - It's a proeminent religion. 12:43 - That's right. And so, what we can see 12:45 according to one of the quotes that we have just seen, 12:48 is that the principles that led to the French Revolution 12:51 and that are rising out of the French Revolution, 12:53 are now being disseminated on a worldwide level. 12:56 We've seen it through evolution, sexual permissivness, 12:59 we've seen it through humanism and now we're going to look 13:05 at how this revolt in Haiti actually spread out. 13:11 We're going to put our graphic up again 13:12 and you'll notice there, on the third box, highlighted. 13:17 We have there the beast from the abyss, 13:19 the French Haiti revolution. 13:26 But now, you'll look up to the right and you'll notice 13:29 the Louisiana purchase. What is the Louisiana Purchase 13:32 all about? 13:34 Very simple. France, at this time had owned almost 13:38 all of the USA, as we know it today. 13:45 The whole thing was called Louisiana. 13:48 Well, in 1803-1804, France sells Louisiana to 13:55 America. 13:57 - And we know it as the famous "Louisiana Purchase". 13:59 - And what's interesting about that is...we've already 14:02 discussed that. The beast from the abyss 14:04 represented the things that took place in France, 14:08 the Revolution in France. 14:10 The beast from the earth, Revelation 13:11: 14:13 'the horns like a lamb... speaks like a dragon...' 14:15 represents events taken place in the US. 14:19 In the Louisiana Purchase you have France and the USA 14:22 making this land agreement. 14:24 What's so significant about that? 14:26 Well, part of the Louisiana Purchase are one of the 14:30 places which America aquired as her own 14:33 was a place called New Orleans. 14:37 - And then slaves were brought to New Orleans 14:40 and that started to be a major slave trade port for America. 14:45 - Exactly. And that is where, in New Orleans, voodoo 14:49 entered in America. 14:52 - A little side note: voodoo, as a religion, 14:56 wasn't allowed to be practiced 14:58 anywhere in America at that time, except for New Orleans. 15:03 - And, to even take that further, they were only allowed 15:07 to practice their voodoo ceremonies on Sundays 15:11 in congo square. And what happened as these slaves 15:15 came over to America and even the free came over 15:19 to America, and to New Orleans, they brought their voodoo 15:22 traditions with them, and they would begin 15:25 practicing their vudun at congo square. 15:30 And what happened is that you had people 15:32 that were coming, Americans that would come, 15:35 and wonder: "What is this strange music that 15:40 these people are doing, and this dancing?", 15:43 because it was foreign to America. 15:46 And what happened is that these tourists would see it 15:48 and it began to interest them so much that 15:51 they began to imitate it. 15:53 A part of the music that began to be popular 15:57 just around this time, the 1900's 15:59 was something known as "Ragtime". 16:02 The 'Ragtime' actually sprang out of New Orleans 16:05 as a result of the slaves that were brought in to New Orleans. 16:09 We can safely say that 'Ragtime', 16:11 with its off-time rythm, with the lawlessness 16:17 that it brought it with it, we can safely say that 16:19 this also ascended out of the beast, or out of the abyss 16:27 that we saw arose up from the French Revolution. 16:31 We've got Santa Domingo, we've got Haiti, 16:36 we've got the French Revolution, we've got France selling 16:39 Louisiana to America, we've got New Orleans 16:41 with the slaves coming over, the voodoo practicing slaves 16:44 coming over, and then we've got this music that 16:48 is introduced to America for the first time 16:50 called 'Ragtime'. 16:53 We're going to put our graphic up there 16:55 and you're going to notice on box no.5, 16:59 the highlighted box where it says: 17:01 'New Orleans slaves migrate from Haiti. Voodoo 17:04 enters America', box no.6: 'Ragtime' - is the music 17:09 that comes out of this style that they brought 17:13 to America. From there you'll se the word, 17:17 or the term 'R&B'. That stands for 17:22 Rythm and Blues, which sprung out of Ragtime. 17:26 And so, here you have this music that is beginning to 17:28 evolve, change forms, transform itself 17:34 and it's moving from one style to another. 17:38 Interesting thing about this is, we looked at the beast 17:41 from the abyss and saw that this beast represented Egypt 17:45 and Sodom - sexual permissivness. 17:50 And, as you look at these styles of music, 17:52 and their origins and what they cause, 17:55 we can ask a question: 'Do we see Egypt?' 17:58 "who is God that I should obey Him?"... 18:00 yes, because Ragtime and R&B were music 18:03 produced by those who did not want to have 18:06 anything to do with God. 18:07 They weren't into Christianity. 18:10 They looked at that as the 'white' religion 18:11 and so, they came up with a different form of music 18:15 and said: 'This is our own, this is our music that expresses 18:18 our sorrows, that expresses what we want to do 18:20 where we don't have much so we like to talk about 18:25 those things that make us all feel good', 18:27 which, at the time, and still now, was sexual permissivness, 18:31 lawlessness. We see that in this style of music. 18:34 We're going to look at the graphic again. 18:36 We're going to notice that, from R&B, the next box 18:39 highlighted would be Jazz. 18:41 1920's! And 'jazz' happens to be a sexual term, 18:46 term that was used.. - ...to describe sex. 18:49 - To describe sexual act. 18:51 So, here you have again; this music is fit into 18:55 the description of Sodom given to the beast 18:58 in Revelation 11. 19:00 Another interesting thing about this 19:01 is...as you look at New Orleans and the celebrations 19:07 that thay have happening in New Orleans... 19:09 In Revelation 11:10 it says: 19:14 "And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice 19:16 and make merry, and shall send gifts 19:20 one to another because these two prophets 19:22 tormented them that dwelt on the earth." 19:28 We're speaking here about the Old and the New Testament. 19:31 When the Old and the New Testament were put away, 19:33 the people celebrated because they were happy 19:38 that God was out of the picture. 19:41 And look at what was happening in New Orleans. 19:43 Look at all the celebrations that were going on there. 19:45 They're celebrations of sin, of wickidness. 19:48 Look at Southern decadence, a celebration of 19:50 sexual permissivness. 19:53 Look at the Jazz Festival... 19:57 All these different celebrations which are, for the most part, 20:02 accompanied with Sodom - sexual permissivness 20:05 and Egypt - 'who is God that I should obey Him?' 20:08 Looking at our graphic again we see that from jazz 20:14 and tha 1920's, you come to 20:16 Rock'n Roll in the '50s and the '60s. 20:20 And, amazingly enough, Rock'n Roll brought with it 20:25 the spirit of rebellion. 20:27 We can safely say that rock'n roll ascended out 20:30 of that abyss. 20:32 And you look: Sodom, Egypt are the principles there? 20:36 Very much so. They are there. 20:39 Now, rock'n roll took two different turns 20:43 in the '50s and the '60s. 20:45 Number 1: in the island of Jamaica. 20:49 They would listen to the music coming from New Orleans 20:54 which was popular music, pop music, 20:56 rock'n roll, jazz, blues, 20:58 they would listen to this, but the signal wasn't very strong 21:03 so it would break up and 21:05 they would go out at times and come back in 21:07 and what happened is that the Jamaicans formed 21:10 this style of music where the music is played 21:13 for a little while and then they purposely stop it, 21:15 and the DJ would talk, and the music would 21:18 start again. This is called 21:20 the forerunner of Reggae. 21:22 Well, in the 1970's, Reggae was taken from Jamaica 21:27 and brought back over to America 21:30 and there is where you have the introduction of hip-hop, 21:33 in the '70s and '80s, beginning in Bronx, New York. 21:39 - And there's where the rap music started. 21:42 - There's where hip-hop and rap music began. 21:45 Let me jump back a little bit. We're going to put our 21:47 graphic up one more time and you're going to notice that 21:49 large box that says: 'The Jesus Movement'. 21:54 What was the 'Jesus Movement'? 21:56 Some of you, who were around in the '50s and '60s, 21:58 or '60s rather remember the 'Jesus Movement'. 22:02 What happened there? 22:03 The hippies from the rock'n roll era, decided that, 22:07 after trying drugs, they were going to try Jesus. 22:11 And what they did is they became Christians, 22:15 but they took their music with them. 22:20 Now remember where this music is coming from. 22:21 It's coming from Santa Domingo, the vudun spirit of worship, 22:26 the gods entering the body and riding the body. 22:29 And, as you look at rock'n roll, what was happening 22:32 to the young people? 22:34 It was as though those spirits were entering 22:38 and just making them do all kinds of crazy rebellious things 22:43 The 'Jesus Movement' took that music, 22:46 and thus, you have the birth of what is known today 22:50 as CCM, Contemporary Christian Music. 22:54 Now, let me say here that CCM simply means 23:00 music that is contemporary with our times. 23:03 And I'm not saying that all contemporary christian music 23:06 is wrong, because artists should be free to do music 23:11 that is up to date. 23:13 But, the kind of music that reflects what we see 23:17 rising out of the abyss, that is where we take issue. 23:20 - And the most important thing, taking it back to 23:23 the voodoo religion, the way that they were able to create 23:27 that dance and that movement was from the drum. 23:29 The drummer was the key person in the voodoo ceremony, 23:34 to get them to move. You cannot dance in that way 23:38 without a drum. 23:40 And so now, as we're looking at Christian music 23:43 you're thinking: 'It's okay to have contemporary music', 23:46 but if it carries the same element that the voodoo 23:50 religion carried, then there is a problem. 23:52 Now, here's a powerful thing. 23:54 When the slaves of Santa Domingo began 23:58 to practice the vudun, they didn't do it openly 24:01 because they knew that the Catholics 24:03 were watching them and that they had to be 24:06 very careful. In other words voodoo had the power to 24:09 synchronize or hide itself under a religious disguise. 24:13 You go to some of those countries today 24:15 and you'll still see the element 24:17 of Catholicism mixed with voodoo. 24:18 Well, what we have happening in the '60s is this very same 24:22 principle. Voodoo, which has transformed itself, 24:25 evolved as it were, was able to adapt under 24:30 this Christian disguise and now it found its way 24:34 moving into what we now see, 24:35 we're going to put our graphic up one last time, 24:37 we have Christian Rap, Christian R&B, Christian Rock, 24:43 Christian Jazz. 24:45 And it's amazing to see how this musical tree of sorcery 24:54 began all the way back on this island, 24:57 and through the French Revolution 24:59 it just exploded upon the world. 25:01 And I want to read this quote again, 25:03 where it tells us that the worldwide dissemination 25:09 of the principles that led to the French Revolution 25:12 are leading the world into a state similar to that 25:19 which convulsed France. 25:20 - I have a powerful statement here. 25:22 It's talking about Jimmy Hendrix 25:26 who was in London one time with a drummer from Africa 25:30 who was a part of the voodoo religion. 25:32 Listen to what it says: 25:33 " He [Hendrix] had gotten a chance to see Rocky 25:36 [which is the gentleman from Africa] and some other 25:38 African musicians on a London scene. 25:40 He found it a pleasure to play rythms against 25:42 their poli-rythms. They would totally go outside into 25:46 another kind of space that he had seldom been 25:49 in before. Rocky's father was a voodoo priest 25:52 and the chief drummer of a village in Guana, West Africa. 25:55 Rocky's real name is Quazi. 25:58 One of the first things that Rocky asked Jimmy was 26:00 where he got that voodoo rythm from. 26:03 When Jimmy dimarred Rocky went on to explain, 26:07 in his halting English, that many of the 26:10 signature rythms Jimmy played on a guitar 26:12 were very often the same rythms that his father 26:15 played in voodoo ceremonies. 26:17 The way Jimmy danced to the rythms of the play 26:19 reminded Rocky of the ceremonial dance, 26:22 to the rythms that his father played during voodoo ceremonies. 26:26 To the gods of thunder and lightning. 26:28 - That's right. One of the things 26:29 that a lot of people don't understand is that, 26:31 in the voodoo religion, the word "syncopation" 26:33 simlpy means the gods and humanity joining together 26:39 in dance. That's what the word 'syncopation' means. 26:42 And, as we think about what we see today, 26:45 as Christians we need to be aware that what 26:50 we are up against is the beast from the abyss. 26:53 He is rising up through evolution, 26:56 through humanism, through drama, 26:59 through sexual perversion and now, we see, 27:02 even through music he is trying to bring 27:05 the world down into the abyss. 27:07 - And into the church, because many of the contemporary 27:11 christian music that we hear today has the same rythm 27:14 and the same beat that you hear in the worldly music 27:17 if you turn on your radio station. 27:19 And here it is, that beat and rythm came 27:22 from the voodoo religion and the drums that they 27:26 were playing to bring out those gods. 27:28 - We want to encourage our viewers to take this 27:31 seriously. You mention the word 'voodoo' 27:34 and people laugh: 'Ha, ha, ha, you don't 27:35 really believe in that stuff, do you?" 27:37 It's a real religion. It is, in reality able to 27:41 disguise itself under many coverings, 27:45 and we want to encourage our viewers who are struggling 27:47 with this very issue, to open the Word of God, 27:50 to research this, to study it and see for themselves 27:55 if what we're saying is not true. 27:57 - Well, unfortunately we're all out of time. 28:00 Until next time, God bless. |
Revised 2014-12-17