Participants: David Shin and Steve Wolhberg
Series Code: BOF
Program Code: BOF000043
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00:15 Like to welcome you to Battles of Faith.
00:17 My name is David Shin and I am here with Steve Wohlberg, 00:19 who is a Speaker Director of White Horse Media. 00:21 We are going through the series thus far, 00:24 series of the 13, it's been quite a journey, 00:26 and so we haven't talked lot about White Horse Media. 00:29 So, why don't you tell our viewing audience 00:31 little bit more about your ministry there in Fresno, 00:33 California? Sure, just briefly we are in Fresno. 00:36 We are kiwi ministry, we have chosen the name of 00:38 White Horse Media because of Revelation 19. 00:41 It talks about Jesus coming on a white horse 00:43 and we are inspired by that, and Christ is the center 00:47 of the ministry because he is the writer and our goal 00:49 is to help people to get ready for his return, 00:52 and that's what is all about. So, 00:54 we do this through the Internet. We have a website 00:55 whitehorsemedia.com. We have books seminars, 00:58 DVD's and radio programs and lot of things 01:01 and we are just trying to reach out and share 01:04 Gods love and truth into a lost world. 01:07 So, if they wanted to find out more information 01:08 they go to www.whitehorsemedia.com. 01:12 Yes, that's it whitehorsemedia.com. 01:13 Alright, so today's topic is the love of power versus 01:17 the power of love. Am I correct? 01:19 Yes, that's it we are in a power battle, 01:21 the power struggle, cosmic forces are at work. 01:25 And it's really no secret for those that dealt 01:29 into the whole arena of the occult and witchcraft 01:32 and magic that the appeal, we can say the lure 01:35 of the craft today is the appeal of power, 01:39 the lure of power, the people are looking for power, 01:42 they want power and witchcraft claims to offer 01:45 people that power to really do almost 01:48 whatever they want to accomplish their will, 01:50 that's what witchcraft is about. It's about accessing 01:52 supernatural power to do what you want to do. 01:56 And Bible talks lot about this and it's in the book of, 01:59 Book of Acts, we've been going through different 02:01 passages in this Series called Magic Ghosts and the Bible, 02:06 and I would like to just start out by going to Acts 02:09 Chapter 8. David we looked at this before, 02:11 and I just wanna redirect attention to the issue of power 02:16 because that's what happening here. 02:18 Acts Chapter 8 Verse 9 talks about a certain man, 02:20 his name was Simon. Acts 8 Verse 9 and he used 02:24 sorcery it says, and he bewitched the people of 02:27 Samaria with his sorceries and he called himself 02:32 some great one. People considered him to be a great, 02:36 great man. In Verse 10, it says that they all gave 02:39 heed to him from the least to the greatest saying 02:41 this man is the great power of God. He is the 02:45 great power of God. Now it's interesting that and 02:47 when you read this chapter. What's happening 02:49 is Simon Magus, the sorcerer, who is in Samaria. 02:53 All the sudden he begins to witness the power of God 02:56 working through the Apostles. 02:58 The Apostles are laying hands on people, 03:00 and God's power is coming through the Apostles 03:03 to reach the people, and Simon looks at this and he is, 03:06 he is very intrigue by this and he wants that power. 03:09 And so in Verse, Verse 18, he offers the apostles 03:13 money and then in verse 19 he said give me 03:16 also this power, I want it because really that's what, 03:20 that's what witchcraft and sorcery is all about. 03:24 The problem with the occult is that they don't realize 03:28 the source of that power. They think generally speaking 03:32 in witchcraft that the power comes from nature, 03:34 it comes from the spirits of nature, 03:36 it comes from the moon, and from the trees, 03:38 and the force, and the earth, and the wind, 03:40 and the fire, and they don't realize according 03:43 to the Bible that they are really two cosmic powers 03:46 out there. There is a good power and a bad power, 03:49 and the power of evil, the power ultimately of Satan 03:52 and the Devil. And as we have discussed this before 03:55 those are into witchcraft, don't believe there 03:58 is a Satan and so they are not looking, 04:00 they are not concerned about watching out for that power 04:06 I think there is almost a curiosity that's involved 04:08 with this power and I think it's also natural to human 04:11 nature to desire power. It's inherent within us from 04:14 I guess almost a corner perspective that we desire 04:17 a power even money is power, 04:20 we think that fame is power, perception is power, 04:24 and this is one of those elements if you can tap 04:26 into the supernatural side that there is an element, 04:29 first you are amazed that exist and then you are like 04:32 while maybe this power can help me to achieve 04:34 certain things in this life. That's right and they wish 04:36 to clarify, it's not entirely wrong to want power. 04:39 Okay. It just depends on what you wanted for. 04:43 Okay. Because we all need power. 04:44 We are all in the world of sin and the world 04:47 of temptations and battles and trials, 04:48 and problems and we need power to help us to cope. 04:51 Power to overcome and to rise above the things 04:55 that comes our way and so, but what we need to realize 04:58 and this is a very crucial distinction is that there 05:00 are two powers. There is Gods power and there 05:02 is the Devils power, and we need to make sure 05:04 that we are tapping into the right power for the 05:06 right reasons. Now let's go to Acts chapter 26, 05:09 let's take a look at another passage same chapter 05:12 of same book that talks about Simon Magus, 05:14 who people thought was the great power of God, 05:17 who said give me this power, I want power. 05:19 Well here let's take a look at this Acts 26 verse 18, 05:22 Jesus had just spoken to Paul from heaven, 05:26 he knocked him down, his name was Saul on the road 05:29 to Damascus, his name was then changed to Paul, 05:31 and Jesus gave him a commission to go out 05:34 into the world and to spread the knowledge 05:36 of the truth. And in Verse 18, Jesus told Paul 05:39 I am sending you to open their eyes, 05:42 that's the eyes of the people of the world, 05:44 and to turn them from darkness to light, 05:48 that's crucial, and from and notice David, 05:51 it says from the power of Satan to where. 05:56 To God. To God. That's rights 05:58 that they may receive forgiveness of sins 06:00 and an inheritance among them, which are sanctified 06:04 by faith that is in me. So, this verse talks about power. 06:07 There is power, and but as you look closely 06:10 and this is where Jesus wanted Paul to go out 06:15 and open people eyes. People need to have 06:17 their eyes open to this. They don't in witchcraft 06:19 they just think there is just one power out there, 06:22 and they can get that power and then channel 06:24 it for their own purposes. This verse says that 06:27 our eyes need to be opened and their eyes need 06:29 to be opened that there are two powers, 06:32 two contending powers. One of them is the power 06:35 of Satan and the other is the power of God. 06:40 And it's very significant when you look closely 06:41 at this text. Jesus said to open their eyes and to turn 06:45 them from darkness to light, and from the power 06:48 of Satan to God, and that shows that Satan's power 06:52 is associated with darkness. Okay. It's not, 06:55 it's not light, it's dark, and I have done a lot 06:59 of research on this and I have done this because 07:01 I want to know the truth about what I am talking about. 07:04 I don't want to just you know speculate, 07:07 I want to know what the Bible says 07:08 and I wanted to be accurate in my communication 07:11 about the subject and from what I have read not only 07:15 in Satan's power in dark, but it's also cold. 07:20 It is a cold power and I am going to share 07:23 some illustrations on that in just a minute. 07:24 Okay, so what you mean by cold. Alright, 07:27 now we have just talk little bit about some of the 07:29 contrast between God's power and Satan's power, 07:31 and one of the characteristics that Satan's power 07:33 is dark and you said it's cold. Now what do you mean 07:35 by cold, do you mean temperature cold or do 07:38 you mean I don't know about different type of cold, 07:41 but it's definitely little bit of a contrast there. 07:45 Yes, I do mean temperature cold. Temperature cold. 07:47 Yes and I will illustrate that. We can put up 07:49 on the screen here a photograph of a book written 07:52 actually written by a ghost. It's called Seth Speaks 07:56 and we can see just a little line from that book. 07:59 It says "I do not have a physical body, 08:00 yet I am writing this book." In the 1960s, 08:04 a ghost name Seth entered into the body of a woman 08:09 name Jane Roberts, who was, she and her husband 08:11 were playing with the Ouija board in New York 08:13 and this ghost eventually began to write books through 08:17 Jane Roberts, and these are called the Seth material, 08:20 the Seth books. And from, if you do your homework 08:24 on this Seth's books really literally practically 08:27 launched the new age movement and there is just 08:30 a lot of information about this being and what happened 08:34 in this apartment, and people came in and actually 08:37 studied what was going on, and they took notes 08:39 and did investigation, and we talked about this briefly 08:42 that when you look at the Seth dictated books. 08:44 We talked about this before, that's right, 08:46 and then you look at the books that Jane Roberts 08:47 herself wrote. They are very different, 08:49 that there was a real being in Satan. 08:52 He did actually enter this woman and she has become 08:54 one of the most famous mediums in history. 08:56 I certainly don't recommend that you read 08:57 any of her books. Sure. And I'm just using this 08:59 as an illustration. This is fascinating. 09:02 Let me just tell you this quick story, 09:03 that one Seth first began to entered this woman. 09:07 He gave certain signs to demonstrate, 09:10 who he was that he was really a real ghost. 09:13 Robert Butts was Jane's husband and they were 09:17 sitting there, and the Seth spirit told Robert 09:21 to look at Jane's arm and her arm became like a paw, 09:24 and then the Satan ghost told Robert to reach out 09:28 and touch Jane's arm. And this is what Robert testified. 09:33 It says here that Butts cautiously touched 09:36 Jane's hand and it felt very cold, wet and clammy. 09:40 And when I read about that, I just thought you know 09:43 there is an example right there of this ghost coming 09:46 into this woman's body, her arm changes, 09:49 it's really a rather scary scene, and her arm 09:52 becomes cold, wet and clammy, and looks like a paw. 09:54 Now that's one example. Let me give you another one. 09:57 You can put another book on the screen here. 09:59 This is a best selling author, her name is Sylvia Browne. 10:02 She wrote this book "Visits from the Afterlife." 10:04 You can take it off now. She is one of the most 10:09 well-known mediums of this day. She is a modern medium. 10:13 She has been on the talk shows circuit. 10:15 She has written many books. She is New York 10:16 Times Best Seller and you mentioned sometime ago 10:19 that you happened to turn on the TV one day, 10:21 that's right, and you saw Sylvia Browne. 10:23 She was on, what show was that? 10:25 Montel Williams Show. The Montel Williams Show, 10:26 that's right. She is a regular guest on the 10:28 Montel Williams Show. Montel Williams is the talk 10:31 show host and people watch this program around 10:34 the world. Well it's interesting in the book that I just 10:37 showed on the screen. We just showed 10:38 "Visits from the Afterlife." At the very end 10:41 Sylvia Browne tells very interesting ghost story 10:45 about how she was invited to by CBS to head out a 10:50 documentary on whether the Queen Mary was haunted. 10:54 I have been actually been on the Queen Mary. 10:56 It's a big boat parked dock off the coast of Long Beach, 10:58 California and I have been on that boat, 11:01 and Sylvia Browne was on that boat with the full 11:02 television crew. And Montel Williams was there with 11:05 her because he was pretty much in charge of this 11:08 documentary and whether the Queen Mary was haunted. 11:11 Well anyway they, they are looking around the ship 11:13 and the cameras were rolling and they go down 11:14 to the lower level, and Montel Williams is there 11:18 and the crew is there, and all the sudden 11:19 Sylvia Browne looks around, and she sees this, 11:21 this ghost that nobody else sees, but she sees it. 11:24 And it's dancing around the room. 11:25 And Montel Williams just kind of looking and just 11:28 wondering if this lady really furious like, 11:29 she is crazy. And at one point the Sylvia tells 11:33 the ghost Mary to stop right in front of them 11:35 and this is what she describes. She told Mary to 11:39 standstill, the ghost name was Mary to standstill. 11:42 She said I took my host by the hand that was 11:45 Montel Williams and he was brave enough not to 11:47 hesitate even though he did not have a clue 11:49 what I was about to do. And then without a word 11:51 I simply walked him right through Mary's ghostly 11:54 body through the spirit that she saw, that she thought 11:57 was a dead person. And then she says I'll never forget 12:00 how huge his eyes were after he stepped 12:03 through her. Did you feel that I asked? 12:06 It was rhetorical question and she said I looked 12:09 at him and I could tell he felt it for sure. 12:11 And then he said feel it, how could I not feel it. 12:14 Whatever it was, it was freezing cold. 12:18 And then she said I decided to play the Devils' 12:21 advocate well to be fair it is chilly down here 12:23 at the lower deck of the Queen Mary. 12:24 And then he shook his head, Montel Williams, 12:27 and said not like that. That wasn't any kind 12:31 of cold I've every felt in my life. 12:34 It went all through me right down to my bones 12:37 in that one spot that you walk me through. 12:40 Wow. Now when I read that, 12:42 I thought you know wow! here's, 12:43 here is a ghost and Sylvia is taking Montel and walking 12:47 him through that ghost, which he doesn't see, 12:51 but she sees and as soon as he hits that, 12:53 he is just freezing. Satan's power is cold. 12:57 I believe that spirit was a demon and that this woman 13:00 is involved in communication with demons, 13:02 although she doesn't know it. Now here is one more 13:04 quick example. Let's go back on the screen 13:05 and put the book by Allison DuBois called 13:10 "Don't Kiss Them Good-Bye." 13:11 This woman and we can take that off now. 13:13 Allison DuBois is a best selling author in 13:15 New York Times Best Seller. She is the inspiration 13:17 behind the NBC TV Series medium, 13:19 which is being watched by people all around 13:21 the world. It's just, it's a big show. 13:23 It's won awards. It's won awards. 13:25 It's about a woman, who talks to the dead people 13:27 and Allison DuBois is the real person behind the show. 13:31 She is a real medium. She has been on TV. 13:33 She has just been, she has done a lot of things. 13:36 Well anyway, her book that I just showed there 13:39 "Don't Kiss Them Good-Bye." In that book, she describes 13:43 what happens to her when she is about to go 13:45 into a reading with the person, 13:47 where she is supposedly talking to a dead person 13:49 or getting information from the dead person 13:51 and then sharing it with the sitter, 13:53 who she is giving the reading to. 13:54 And she said here "When I am preparing 13:57 for a private reading, I know the other side 14:00 is churning around me when my hands quickly 14:03 become freezing. I refer to this as holding hands 14:07 with the other side. So Jane Roberts encountered 14:11 with the Seth's spirit turned her hand cold 14:14 and clammy. The reason why Montel Williams 14:17 has Sylvia Browne on his program, is because 14:21 he walked through a ghost and he was just chilled 14:24 to his bone, and Sylvia Browne, 14:27 I mean Allison DuBois says the same thing that her 14:29 hands become freezing whenever she is involved 14:31 with the spirits. And these are all just examples 14:33 of how the and my point is that the power of Satan 14:38 is dark and it's cold. It's cold. 14:40 It's freezing up. One more quick example, 14:42 I share with you before my friend Pam, 14:45 who has come out of witchcraft. 14:47 She was into witchcraft. She came out of it 14:49 and she wrote me an e-mail and she said this. 14:52 She said I could always feel when she was involved 14:55 in the occult. When an evil presence was coming over me, 14:58 it's all of a sudden like your thoughts become dark, 15:02 your emotions are muted you can't feel your emotions, 15:06 and then you feel like you are all powerful, 15:09 you know all powerful. And that is what sorcery 15:13 and witchcraft is all about, is that power. 15:15 But it's a dark power, it's a cold power, 15:19 it's an, it's an evil power, and it's not the power 15:23 that God wants us to experience. In the Bible, 15:26 we have already read in Acts 26:18, God wants 15:29 to open our eyes, the people eyes in the world, 15:31 who are mixed up in these things and he wants to turn 15:33 them from darkness to light, 15:35 and from the power of Satan to God. 15:38 Now let's take a look at another passage. 15:40 First Corinthians, Chapter 1 Verse 18. 15:42 First Corinthians 1:18, God's power is very different 15:48 from Satan's power and that's the power he wants us 15:51 to have, alright, and that's the power he wants 15:53 working through this programs, God's good power. 15:56 In First Corinthians 1:18 and David 15:58 I think I'll let you read that text. 16:00 Okay, so First Corinthians 1:18, correct, 16:03 for the message of the cross is foolishness 16:06 to those who are perishing, 16:08 but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 16:12 Right now, notice it says it is the power of God, 16:14 and where is God's power centered according 16:17 to this text. It says the message 16:19 of the cross. Right the message of the cross. 16:21 God's power is revealed through the message 16:24 of the cross. Now if you turn to John 3:16, 16:28 which is one of the most famous verses in the Bible. 16:31 I love this passage, it talks about the cross, 16:34 doesn't use the word cross, but it talks about 16:36 the message and it reveals that the message 16:39 of the cross is centered in God's love. 16:42 John 3:16, Jesus said for God so loved the world 16:47 that he gave his only begotten Son, 16:49 that whosoever believed in him should not perish, 16:52 but have everlasting life. This is so important. 16:55 The power of God is centered in his love that 17:02 is revealed in him giving his son to die on the cross 17:05 of Calvary for the sins of the world. 17:07 And in my life what really reached me the message 17:13 of that love, the message of that good news 17:16 reached me when I saw the struggle between 17:19 the father and the son in the garden of Gethsemane 17:22 as Jesus was wrestling with the powers of darkness 17:26 and with the choice whether he was gonna 17:28 give his life that's a sacrifice for my sins and for the sins 17:31 of everybody else. And let's just take a look 17:32 at that also. Matthew Chapter 26, 17:35 this passage is what really reached me 28 years ago. 17:40 I was lost in Hollywood, lost in the life of drugs, 17:43 and just crazy living searching for the power 17:47 of the world and God's power got a hold of me. 17:51 And this was the sin that did it. 17:53 In Matthew Chapter 26 Verse 36, the Bible says 17:58 "Then cometh Jesus with them to a place 18:01 called Gethsemane and said to the disciples sit here 18:04 while I go over there and pray." 18:06 And he took with him Peter and the two sons 18:08 of Zebedee, and he began to be sorrowful 18:10 and very heavy. And then he said to them, 18:13 my soul is exceeding sorrowful, even to death, 18:17 teary here, and watch with me. 18:19 And then verse 39, he went a little further 18:22 and fell on his face and he prayed, 18:23 and he said Oh! My Father, here is the son, 18:27 the son of the God agonizing and pray 18:29 before his father. Father if it is possible, 18:32 let this cup pass from me. Nevertheless, 18:36 now look at that David. Nevertheless, 18:38 not as I will but as you will. Now here is 18:44 the difference, one difference, 18:45 there are many differences between Christianity 18:47 and the craft, and witchcraft. 18:49 Witchcraft wants power to do your own will. 18:54 Okay. And in this scene in Gethsemane Jesus 18:58 is praying and he is saying father not my will, 19:01 but your will be done and that reveals his love 19:06 that he was willing to yield his will, yield his life, yield, 19:10 yield everything in order to ultimately to save us. 19:14 And in the Bible in Christianity, 19:17 we surrender our will like Jesus did to receive 19:21 God's power to do his will. In witchcraft 19:25 they want to get power to do their own will 19:28 and there is a major difference that's witchcraft 19:31 or selfcraft, and we may not be practicing 19:33 witchcraft, but if we are doing our own will, 19:36 we are really practicing selfcraft, and Christianity 19:39 is giving up our will to receive God's power. 19:42 And the supreme example of that is Jesus himself 19:46 doing that wrestling with that and finally praying 19:49 Father not my will, but your will be done, 19:51 and God's will was for him to go to the cross 19:55 as a manifestation of his love, so he could save us 19:59 from sin. So he could ultimately die on a cross paying 20:03 the price for all of ours self will, 20:06 all of our search for power, all of our wickedness 20:10 and our corruption in going our way instead 20:12 of our creators way. And ultimately our way 20:14 is a disaster, it leads down, it leads to the pit, 20:18 it's self destructive, and God loves us and that's why 20:21 he wants to get us out of that and turn us around, 20:23 open our eyes, turn us from the darkness 20:25 to the light from the power of Satan to God. 20:27 So we can be forgiven and as we read in the 20:30 Book of Acts, so that we can receive an inheritance 20:34 among those who are sanctified through faith 20:36 in Christ. Now that's another point. 20:40 God's power can actually sanctify us, it can lift us up, 20:45 it can purify us, it can cleanse us, and it can, 20:50 it can make us new. And Satan does not have 20:53 that kind of power. Witchcraft is just about getting 20:56 power to do what you want. God's power wants 20:59 to change your life and get sin out of your life. 21:03 And I have a friend of mine that once made a statement 21:05 to me that I have never forgotten. 21:07 He said Satan has power, but he has no power 21:11 to help you do right, he can't do that, 21:15 he doesn't have that power. 21:18 Now we talked a little bit up to this point about 21:20 the power of Satan and the contrast of the power 21:23 of God. Power of Satan is cold. Power of God is warm, 21:26 it's loving, it's self-sacrificing. Now we talked 21:30 in a previous program about witchcraft or wicked. 21:33 Now someone viewing this program that has 21:36 dabbled in witchcraft or Awake or the 21:39 Harry Potter books. The question may come to their 21:41 mind they say there is an element of love in witchcraft. 21:46 Would you agree with that question or interpret 21:48 opposition of that question that there is an element 21:50 of love in the how should I say the new witchcraft 21:55 that's coming out in the 21st century. 21:57 Yeah, that's a, that's a good question. 21:59 Well you are right. The modern wicked movement 22:03 definitely has a friendly face and I would say 22:06 let me clarify this way that there is no love 22:11 in Satan's power. None. None. Okay. 22:14 Not a bit not an ounce, but God's power 22:17 is working all around this world and it's interesting 22:20 I remember the statement that Pam made 22:23 and I'm just thinking of this as you are, 22:24 as we are talking about this and you asked that question. 22:26 Pam talks about how she became a believer 22:30 and somewhere in her testimony if I can find it. 22:33 She says that here is it that God's hand has been 22:38 in my life for a lot of years, but I had no clue. Okay. 22:42 So God was working in her life. God's love was trying 22:46 to draw her and working in her life, 22:50 leading her ultimately to him and to the cross. 22:52 Okay. And so I mean there are, there are people 22:55 that are into witchcraft that do good things. 22:58 Sure. I mean I'm not saying that everything 22:59 they do was bad. Okay. But anything that anybody 23:01 does that's good is because God is to some extent 23:04 working in their lives, I see, even if they don't know 23:06 that it's God. But my point is that Satan's power, 23:09 his power entirely is loveless, it's cold, it's dark, 23:13 it's wicked, and the deeper people get into the craft 23:17 they start tapping into that power and just like Pam 23:20 did and that power will eventually destroy them. 23:22 Okay. And as we've mentioned 23:24 these modern mediums and people that are involved 23:26 in spirits and ghosts, there is an element of coldness 23:28 that is associated with the supernatural powers 23:32 that they are involved in, and that's my point, 23:34 is it's a dark power, it's a cold power, 23:37 it's not God's power. Okay. As we see there is a big 23:40 contrast between the two powers and we need to have 23:43 our eyes opened to see that and get out of 23:45 the bad power through his power and get in the right 23:48 power, and the motivation to do that is the power 23:51 of his love revealed on the cross, revealed 23:53 in Gethsemane through the struggle of the father 23:56 and the son, who are willingly to be separated from 23:59 each other because of our sins. That is a love that 24:02 is beyond compare. There is nothing like it in 24:05 any religion on this planet. It's not in Islam, 24:08 it's not in Buddhism, it's not in Hinduism, 24:10 it's not in any religion except for Christianity 24:14 that shows a father giving a son to die as a sacrifice 24:20 for our sins. That's a beautiful picture there 24:22 on the screen, Jesus holding a little child just 24:25 reminds me of my little boy Seth, and I have learned 24:29 so much about God's love and about his warmth 24:31 and my point is that God's love is warm 24:34 and loving and cradling, and that's what he wants for us. 24:38 He wants to wrap us in his arms of love and not only 24:42 that he wants to deliver us, to deliver us from evil. 24:45 Let me share one more text here. In the 24:47 Book of Colossians, Chapter 1 Verse 13, 24:50 I love this passage. It's talking about Jesus 24:53 and it says that he has delivered us from the power 24:57 of darkness and has translated us into 25:01 the kingdom of his dear son. Okay. 25:04 Sometimes we talk about the importance of translation 25:07 and I believe in that, that God wants to prepare us 25:09 to be translated at the second coming without 25:12 seeing death. But if we are going to be translated 25:13 then we need to be translated now and the translation 25:17 to this verse is talking about is being translated 25:19 out of the kingdom of darkness, 25:21 the power of darkness and translated through 25:24 the power of the Holy Spirit into the kingdom 25:26 of his dear son in whom we have redemption 25:28 through his blood even the forgiveness of sins. 25:32 Umm! I know. God's power delivers us from evil. 25:36 I remember, still remember, I will always remember 25:38 the first time I knelt in the dormitory room 25:41 in Southern California at the age of 20, 25:43 and I accepted Jesus Christ as my savior. 25:47 I yielded to the power of that love that drew me, 25:50 I clunged at the cross and I said Lord if you, 25:52 if you want me, if you will have me, you know 25:55 I am a sinner. This was the first prayer I have 25:57 ever prayed. I never, I didn't even read the Bible 26:00 until I was 20 years old and I read about Gethsemane 26:02 and that's what reach me, and I got on my knees 26:04 and I said some pray, I don't really remember exactly 26:06 what I prayed, I just said, you know, 26:08 Jesus if you are there, if you want me, 26:10 forgive me and help me. I was smoking pot, 26:13 I was using drugs, I was doing all kinds of things, 26:15 I was lost. And I felt at that moment that doesn't 26:19 always happen like this, but I felt it. 26:21 I felt this power and this love coming to me like 26:25 I have never known. I felt the burden of guilt, 26:27 lifted off of my conscious, the stone of guilt 26:32 was rolled away and it was amazing and 26:35 I remember thinking to myself I thought of 26:37 Mick Jagger song, I can't get no satisfaction 26:39 that I used to listen to a lot in my BC days, 26:43 and I remember thinking to myself at that moment, 26:45 this is satisfying. This I have found 26:48 satisfaction and I felt the love, and the joy, 26:51 and the peace that I have never known, and that love, 26:54 that power actually delivered me from the things 26:57 that I was doing. And David it's been 28 years 26:59 and I have not smoked one marijuana joint since then. 27:02 Praise the Lord. I am out of alcohol, I am out of cocaine, 27:05 I am out of those things. Jesus Christ has 27:08 delivered me from the power of darkness and it has 27:11 brought me into the kingdom of his son, 27:13 and I am very grateful. And I want everybody 27:16 to experience that power. I want to warn people 27:19 to stay away from the power of the occult, 27:21 the power of witchcraft, the power of spiritualism, 27:24 it's a wrong power. God's power is the right power, 27:27 it's a loving power. It will change your life 27:29 and you will never be sorry that you have opened 27:31 your heart to that power. 27:33 Well, thank you so much Steve. And I think all of us 27:37 started to experience the power of God can say 27:39 that there is nothing that is fulfilling as the power 27:42 of God's love. That's right. 27:43 In our daily lives. Well, we have been talking 27:45 today about the power battle, the love of power 27:48 versus the power of love, and we have discussed 27:51 how Jesus loves us, and gave himself, 27:55 so that we might be uplifted, we might be sanctified, 27:58 and ultimately we might be saved. My name is David Shin 28:02 and I'm here with Steve Wohlberg. Join us again 28:04 next time for another edition of Battles of Faith. 28:08 May God bless you. |
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