Canvasback Impact

Come and Help Us

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Series Code: CI

Program Code: CI000006S

00:01 This is the island I told you about, Jim,
00:02 that I really have a vision.
00:04 If we're going to take the next step
00:06 for a wellness program,
00:08 Kusaie is the island.
00:09 It's the island to do it all.
00:10 Because it has a good infrastructure
00:12 with the churches.
00:36 I want to see more checks spent...
00:41 In Kusaie. In Kusaie.
00:42 That's right. That's right.
00:45 My other colleague is leaving today...
00:48 Oh, doctor leaves here. Okay.
00:50 So we're leaving today, and I'll be back on Sunday.
00:55 Okay. Okay.
00:56 Today, we will have our...
00:59 My purpose of being here
01:00 invited by FAB at the national and state
01:03 to see the final work of the nations,
01:08 everything regarding the IHR,
01:11 International Health Regulation,
01:14 whether we are in possession
01:17 or we work for the...
01:22 Right, right, right.
01:23 Right.
01:25 Well...
01:26 You know, so we have to come up with a plan
01:28 in order to prepare for the crisis.
01:31 So right now we are in dead stage.
01:34 So by invitation, I'm here and, you know,
01:37 coincidently I met a lot of people till now.
01:40 I just want you guys come back.
01:43 We would like to come back,
01:45 Canvasback would like to come
01:46 and be part of your health program.
01:49 May I ask you a question?
01:50 You said prepare for the crisis?
01:52 What crisis if I may ask?
01:54 Health issues.
01:55 Health issue is a big crisis because...
01:57 Zika, Measles,
01:59 all those things, naturally, you know...
02:04 You're the medical expert.
02:07 Medical, emergency, or crisis,
02:12 are we prepared for it?
02:13 Right.
02:15 So it's anything life-threatening
02:17 just, you know...
02:18 And Kusaie is so isolated even more so.
02:21 Only two planes.
02:22 Well, do you realize that we are separated by water,
02:26 not like US continent.
02:28 And, you know, going to remote it's an issue.
02:30 Right.
02:32 Our question is how would you get to the,
02:34 you know...
02:36 If Canvasback come to the Kusaie,
02:39 it is not like Pohnpei.
02:41 Pohnpei or even...
02:43 Yeah.
02:45 Remote.
02:47 They have two planes a week, right?
02:50 Just one. Just one plane!
02:51 One to Kusaie, United Air, not compared to Pohnpei.
02:55 Pohnpei has...
02:59 But how many times this united stop?
03:02 Twice a week. Twice a week.
03:04 Tuesday and Friday.
03:06 Now there is a pilot projects under
03:10 but that will not be continue.
03:12 I certainly...
03:15 If our donors helped Canvasback enough
03:17 because financially, we can't do anything
03:19 without our donors.
03:20 How could we help you, if we had the funding?
03:23 Find more donors to sponsor.
03:26 If we found them, how could we help you?
03:28 What are the needs in Kusaie?
03:32 I mean, it's a lot. It's a lot.
03:34 And I cannot speak for the director.
03:37 But, you know, like I said, when I met with your regiment,
03:41 my director, he should have better plans
03:44 or policies and ideas.
03:45 But when it comes to...
03:50 How can we...
03:52 Lack of interest.
03:54 You know, from... Lack of our personal.
03:56 There's one thing I know about Kusaie
03:59 when you look at the four states,
04:02 Kusaie is the smallest state,
04:04 it has the least amount of population.
04:06 So it gets... Six thousand.
04:07 It gets the smallest piece of the pie
04:10 when they split up the money.
04:12 And so they are in need of specialists.
04:14 They don't...
04:15 It's a stepchild. Yeah.
04:17 They are in need of specialists.
04:20 And one of the most beautiful things about Kusaie
04:24 it's one island,
04:25 the church is very strong
04:29 and that leadership can help in promoting good healthcare.
04:36 We do a lot of social functions
04:39 and church contribute
04:43 to a lot of things.
04:44 Health? Yes.
04:46 That is enough...
04:48 But, you know,
04:50 culturally we have to discipline
04:52 our eating habit that maybe that's already...
04:57 This is the island I told you about, Jim,
04:59 that I really have a vision.
05:00 If we're going to take the next step
05:02 for a wellness program, Kusaie is the island.
05:05 It's the island do it all.
05:06 Because
05:08 it has a good infrastructure with the churches.
05:09 We work committee workshops,
05:14 tall, short, concise,
05:17 direct to the point, listen to the...
05:22 Listen to the doctor.
05:24 Why do we actually need to have meals,
05:30 breakfast, lunch, dinner?
05:32 Those kind of things can Canvasback,
05:35 look into the state, educational side.
05:38 Yeah, yeah. Okay.
05:39 That we can actually hear it from the professional people,
05:43 maybe include how to minimize
05:49 diabetes issue and...
05:53 Do you really believe
05:55 that eating contribute impact
05:58 to increase number of diabetics in the nation?
06:03 And there is no cure for diabetes.
06:07 No, I think that...
06:09 I think Kusaie could be a model...
06:11 Kusaie could be a model.
06:13 Increase number of sponsors to fund your program,
06:16 then you can actually, you know...
06:19 Jim and Jacque
06:20 have just been talking about this
06:22 of how to expand and where to expand.
06:23 That's right.
06:25 And we just sent out a letter
06:26 that's actually coming out shortly
06:28 asking folks to participate with us
06:30 to expand wellness centers.
06:31 Fine. Fine. Good supporter for you guys.
06:34 And, you know, email doctor, tell them...
06:37 Okay.
06:38 And make her we'll work with the community,
06:40 support such, you know, teams.
06:44 Really, I'm very small.
06:47 But I like to be effective in my work.
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07:56 You know, while could it be more beautiful
07:59 to just kick back in a hammock on an island.
08:02 You think the doctors at Canvasback
08:05 maybe that's all they do.
08:06 They come to an island to relax
08:07 and just kick back and do nothing.
08:09 But let me tell you,
08:11 that is absolutely not the case,
08:13 as you're going to see in a moment.
08:18 Label that you had me to print today.
08:20 Where was it supposed to be on the board?
08:21 Right here.
08:23 That's it. Okay.
08:24 I just noticed that...
08:26 That he's having surgery.
08:27 Well, he's up there for...
08:30 Now, take that off.
08:32 Yeah, that's what I thought.
08:33 Yeah, that's the one I was looking for.
08:35 I just... I put it up.
08:36 And I just separate it...
08:39 Okay. Yeah.
08:41 So this is our OR schedule board.
08:44 And it represents actually only four days of clinic
08:47 that we had.
08:50 We conduct clinic on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
08:52 So this represents about,
08:56 I would say about 80 surgeries
08:59 that have been completed or will be completed
09:03 by the time the trip is over.
09:04 And we still have today, Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday
09:09 to do screenings for patients.
09:12 So we may probably fill up the rest of this.
09:15 Typically, Jackie, how many surgeries
09:18 would you do on a trip?
09:19 Typically, we would do about 200 surgeries.
09:22 So this represents about half of that.
09:25 And you also get cut a day short
09:27 because your plane had to...
09:28 Oh, yeah!
09:30 We were halfway to Majuro
09:32 and we had to turn around and go back to Honolulu
09:35 because the patient got ill on the plane
09:38 and our Canvasback doctors
09:40 actually helped that patient out.
09:43 So, yeah, we lost a day.
09:44 But what the team did,
09:47 we were supposed to have a day off when we got here.
09:50 But instead we got here on Sunday we ate
09:52 and came in work till about 9 o'clock
09:54 unpacking everything so we could start up on Monday.
09:57 And then you got 200 surgeries
09:59 but that you see in a lot more patients
10:00 than that then too, to get that 200 surgeries?
10:02 Yeah, Shery, how many patients have we seen?
10:05 We don't have 200 surgeries, we've seen...
10:08 Normally though. Yeah.
10:09 Oh.
10:11 Oh yeah, we will have by the end of the day.
10:12 Yeah.
10:13 So far we've seen as of 5 o'clock last night,
10:17 we had seen 124 patients, we've done 32 surgeries,
10:23 and including those 32, we scheduled 77 surgeries.
10:28 Okay.
10:29 And some of those people, you end up doing one eye,
10:32 and then they come back and you do another eye.
10:34 That's right.
10:36 And now that you've got a retinal specialist on,
10:38 all of a sudden, you've done retinal surgery,
10:40 that's maybe never happened in the whole Marshall Island.
10:42 Oh, not happened all through Micronesia.
10:45 There's only one retractor in all of Micronesia
10:48 that belongs to Canvasback,
10:50 and we brought that, and a retinal specialist.
10:52 And this is his position is so needed in the islands.
10:56 And, yeah.
11:00 His position is really needed in the islands
11:02 because no one is here
11:06 to treat these retinal patients at all.
11:10 And I had Dr. Rick walk me through yesterday.
11:12 And he took me back into the back
11:14 where all the shipping containers are
11:16 and then he took me to where all the doctors' wheel
11:18 and all the extra luggage that they bring on board.
11:21 But you take months
11:23 ahead of schedule planning all that.
11:25 Can you walk me
11:26 through this whole process of...
11:27 It takes about a year
11:29 to really pull together a great team.
11:31 Because we have to recruit the team members,
11:34 then we have to solicit the donations,
11:36 we have to schedule the surgery, a whole thing.
11:38 So it's about a year.
11:40 And then we have to get all the supplies in
11:43 and for ophthalmology,
11:45 it was about eight crates, I think.
11:48 It was eight crates.
11:50 That includes the equipment...
11:51 Now, sorry, if I can interrupt you
11:53 just for a second.
11:54 So Canvasback has a warehouse in Benicia.
11:56 That's right.
11:58 Where you begin staging all of that.
11:59 That's right. That's right.
12:01 It gets broiled
12:02 because we have a lot of stuff come in,
12:04 not only is it the equipment
12:07 that we know we're going to need
12:09 for the teams and the supplies.
12:11 But, you know, we're in constant contact
12:13 with the local doctor here.
12:15 We say, "Well, what do you need?
12:17 Is there equipment that's broken?
12:18 Is there something that we can help?"
12:20 And indeed, the team brought in an A-scan, B-scan,
12:24 we brought in various items.
12:27 Backup, A-scan, B-scan.
12:29 It's for testing of the health of the eye,
12:33 so we brought in a machine to donate to him.
12:37 We knew that he needed tables that move up and down
12:40 and makes it easier for the doctor.
12:42 We were able to don't get that donated.
12:45 I noticed, the surgery tables are all massage tables.
12:48 That's right.
12:50 Okay.
12:51 We sent in the massage tables
12:52 because that's easier to position our presentation.
12:56 And we'll leave that for Dr. Gal.
12:57 Okay.
12:59 So not only do you bring in a team,
13:01 but you leave a lot of additional equipment
13:03 that hospitals never have.
13:04 Right. And supplies.
13:06 The word to all of our teams
13:08 are you must bring in every single item
13:11 you need for in mission and then extra
13:14 because we don't want to deplete
13:16 any of the supplies that they have.
13:17 Okay.
13:19 One patient I was talking to was telling me
13:21 that the average person here maybe makes $30 to $50 a month.
13:25 Now you get a specialist in here who is doing,
13:28 say retinal surgery.
13:29 In the United States,
13:31 you're probably looking at $12,000 surgery
13:33 but because of Canvasback and all you've done
13:36 Jack and the team, it's free.
13:38 That's right. That's right.
13:40 They would never have gone off island
13:43 for that they couldn't afford to be able to do that.
13:45 And you know what's really special
13:46 is these people who've come in here
13:48 who are blind, you know, they have lost quality of life.
13:54 But so as their family members,
13:55 their family members have had to feed them,
13:57 have had to lead them around,
13:59 have had to take care of them.
14:00 And we are able to set them free to,
14:04 they're able to go back to living a healthy life too.
14:09 Now before we...
14:10 So people don't just think,
14:11 I mean, we are here at an eye clinic now,
14:13 but Canvasback does so much more.
14:16 You've got how many other types of specialties do you get into?
14:20 Well, we do orthopedic surgery,
14:22 we do ENT, gynecology, urology,
14:28 so many different kinds.
14:30 And same thing with a person
14:33 who's been in a wheelchair for years
14:36 because they couldn't get around
14:37 they needed a new knee or their hip was broken.
14:40 I've seen patients who've waited two years
14:42 to have their knee repair.
14:44 Tell me one of your favorite stories,
14:46 which just pops off the top of your head.
14:47 I'm sure you've got some of those.
14:48 Oh, I do have a favorite story.
14:50 I have a favorite story of a blind man
14:52 who is blind in both eyes and he came to the clinic.
14:55 And we were excited.
14:58 We did one eye.
15:01 And the next day when he came and we took off his patch,
15:03 we expected him to go,
15:05 "Praise the Lord, I can see again"
15:07 He did nothing.
15:08 That was really depressing for us, you know.
15:10 But we thought, well,
15:11 he's been blind for this many years,
15:14 maybe, you know, something has gone wrong here.
15:17 So we decided to do his second eye.
15:20 Did the second eye,
15:21 and the next day he came back still no response
15:24 when we took the patch off.
15:26 Really broke our hearts,
15:28 but we put him out in the hallway.
15:30 And he was sitting in the hallway.
15:32 And pretty soon a very pretty Marshallese nurse
15:35 walked by.
15:36 And his head popped up.
15:40 And he patted her on the back and he went,
15:42 "Where have you been?"
15:47 That broke up the whole staff.
15:48 It did. It did.
15:50 And from that day on while we had clinics, he came,
15:53 and he sat there and he would...
15:55 People would walk by, go, "Where have you been?
15:57 I haven't seen you for years.
15:59 How's it going?"
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16:59 As Jesus traveled,
17:01 He always was looking for friendships
17:03 and relationships.
17:05 That was key.
17:06 He wanted people to know Him,
17:08 and He wanted to get to know people
17:10 and have that friendship and that relationship.
17:13 Matter of fact, in Matthew 7, Matthew 7,
17:16 He's looking through the books,
17:18 the judgment books,
17:19 the church members come up to Him and say,
17:21 "Lord, we have a right to be in the kingdom.
17:23 We've cast out demons, we've healed the sick.
17:25 We've done all these wonderful things."
17:26 Jesus said, "Who are you?"
17:30 He looks through the book, and said,
17:32 "I can't find your name. I never knew you.
17:34 I never knew you."
17:36 That no is a very personal friendship
17:38 and relationship.
17:40 While He was here on Earth,
17:42 thousands and thousands of people
17:44 pressed in on Him.
17:45 They wanted something from Him.
17:47 They wanted a miracle. They wanted a healing here.
17:49 They wanted something from Him.
17:51 But very few wanted a real friendship with Him.
17:54 There was Martha and Mary and Lazarus, however,
17:57 they wanted a friendship.
17:59 They invited Jesus to their home.
18:01 They spent time with Him.
18:02 It was a place that He could relax
18:04 and simply just get rid of the cares
18:07 of the day.
18:09 He was traveling with His disciples,
18:12 and Lazarus became very sick.
18:15 Mary sent a runner, someone to find Jesus and say,
18:18 "The one you love is sick."
18:21 He got the message,
18:23 and the disciples thought He would just immediately,
18:25 you know, kind of pull up camp and head back but He didn't.
18:28 He lingered day after day.
18:30 And finally, He said, "Okay, it's time."
18:34 Lazarus is sleeping now.
18:36 They thought, "Well, if Lazarus is sleeping,
18:38 you know, the fever has passed,
18:40 he's feeling very good."
18:41 No, no.
18:43 Basically, what Jesus is saying is Lazarus is dead.
18:45 You see, Jesus equates sleep and death
18:48 as the same
18:50 because when we die, we don't go to heaven,
18:51 we don't go anyplace.
18:52 We simply go to sleep and wait for the resurrection.
18:57 Jesus finally got very close to Mary's home.
19:01 And she was waiting.
19:03 She'd been waiting for days.
19:04 You see, four days now had passed.
19:07 And there was Jesus.
19:09 "Lord, it's too late. He's already died."
19:13 "Do you believe, Mary? Do you believe?"
19:16 "Well, yes, Lord.
19:17 I believe that there'll be a resurrection."
19:19 "Oh, do you believe, Mary?"
19:21 "Yes, Lord, I believe in You."
19:24 And they started to head toward the tomb.
19:27 Now Mary had sent word to the Jesus
19:30 was coming to Martha, her sister.
19:32 Martha jumped up
19:34 when she heard the news and she ran out
19:35 and all the professional mourners
19:37 and everybody there thought,
19:39 "Oh, she's going to the tomb."
19:41 Well, she was running to meet Jesus.
19:44 By the time they actually got there,
19:46 Jesus was at the tomb.
19:48 And as He's standing there at the tomb,
19:50 they're saying, "Lord, He's been dead, four days!"
19:53 Yeah, basically he's stinky.
19:57 "You know why Lord,
19:58 would you even want to be here now?"
20:00 And He asked the men to roll away the stone
20:03 of the tomb.
20:04 He could have done it Himself.
20:05 He could have flicked His finger
20:07 and rolled the stone away.
20:08 But He cooperates with humanity also.
20:10 They rolled the stone away.
20:12 And now He stands there.
20:14 He has a prayer to His father.
20:15 And He says, "Lazarus come forth."
20:19 And you could hear a pin drop
20:21 amongst all these people in this desert scene.
20:26 And they here rustling in the tomb.
20:28 Then all of a sudden, out of this tomb,
20:30 here comes Lazarus hopping.
20:32 He's wrapped in grave cloth.
20:34 He's got cloth over his face, he can't see,
20:36 but he's out of the tomb.
20:38 Everybody is standing around in amazement, saying,
20:41 "What's going on?"
20:43 Jesus says, "Has to tell somebody,
20:45 unwrap him.
20:46 Take the cloths off, take the wrappings off."
20:49 And Jesus had raised Lazarus from the dead.
20:54 Now it's interesting
20:55 because every recorded funeral
20:57 of the Bible that Jesus attended,
21:00 He broke up the funeral by raising the dead.
21:02 He is the Creator God.
21:04 He came down here to Planet Earth
21:06 to sheriff Himself
21:07 to show His personality who He really is.
21:10 He loves us and if we fall asleep in Jesus,
21:15 He wants to resurrect us at that final day
21:17 and take us to eternity with Him.
21:19 But here's the key.
21:21 Now's the time to have a friendship
21:23 and relationship with Him,
21:24 now is the time to get to know Him
21:27 as your very best friend.
21:28 That's what He's looking forward to.
21:30 Will you be today,
21:31 will you be His very best friend?
21:39 Canvasback Missions has been traveling
21:41 to the islands for 38 years.
21:44 Jesus said, "Go into all the world."
21:45 You might say, "Well, islands,
21:47 that's not a very big area."
21:49 You know, I think of a story
21:50 where a fella was walking on the seashore,
21:53 he was picking up starfish
21:55 and throwing them out starfish at a time.
21:58 And a fellow sitting on the porch said,
21:59 "Man, don't you know,
22:00 you can't throw all those starfish back in,
22:02 they're just going to die."
22:03 He says, "But it made a difference
22:05 to this one."
22:06 This young man used to walk his brother
22:08 around into because he was blind.
22:10 He couldn't see.
22:11 This young man has now seen, this family has seen.
22:14 They've had surgery
22:15 because of the Canvasback super teams.
22:17 It's virtually changed their entire family.
22:20 You know, God is working miracles
22:22 through Canvasback one miracle at a time.
22:26 Mighty changes.
22:27 We invite you to partner with Canvasback
22:29 because it makes a difference in one life at a time.
22:33 Please join us. Information is on your screen.
22:35 We thank you so much for your support.
22:39 No, but I'll tell you there was...
22:40 Tell me another story.
22:42 There was a little boy who came to our clinic.
22:44 He was about nine years old.
22:45 And when he...
22:48 As all Marshallese kids do they, you know,
22:51 invent their games to play.
22:53 So he climbed a coconut tree
22:55 and wanted to jump across to the building over there.
23:00 And 'cause he wanted to peek in and see what they were doing.
23:03 So jumped across, and he hit a power line.
23:07 And it obliterated his nose and threw him off the building.
23:13 And this boy was burnt his toes.
23:16 He was not in good condition at all.
23:18 Dalen.
23:20 And when he came to my clinic, he was so frightened.
23:26 He came in the back door
23:28 with a rag over his face like this.
23:32 And when our doctors interviewed,
23:36 did the examination, he would hardly look up.
23:39 And I put a camera to take pictures of him
23:43 and he didn't like that at all.
23:44 And I said, "Dalen,
23:45 if I'm going to have to help you,
23:47 if you want me to help you I need to take some pictures."
23:50 And he said, "Okay."
23:52 Well, after two visits, two different teams,
23:55 we finally found an ENT doctor from New York, Tal Dagan,
23:59 who got his hospital, Mount Sinai Hospital,
24:03 to donate the surgery for this little boy
24:06 and he built him a nose.
24:08 So you flew him to...
24:10 We flew him to New York.
24:11 We flew him to New York
24:12 actually three times for three surgeries.
24:14 And you could see, you know, the first day
24:17 when he got to New York, of course, he was scared.
24:19 But he always wore his hoodie like this.
24:22 Always walked in there like this.
24:25 After his surgery,
24:26 after he recuperated
24:29 he was running through the subways
24:31 and, you know, showing us what he could do.
24:33 He was just feeling so happy.
24:35 He's now living in the states going to school
24:38 and he's doing so much better.
24:40 So yeah, that is a success story for me.
24:43 And it's because of the donors
24:45 that this kind of thing happened.
24:46 That's right. That's right.
24:48 It's because of our donors.
24:49 We just really appreciate the hearts of people
24:52 who have reached out to help.
24:54 People on these little tiny remote islands
24:57 in the Pacific,
24:58 they care about them.
25:00 You know, this is a mission that shares the love of Jesus
25:04 through our healing hands.
25:06 And we have been working out in Micronesia
25:09 for about over 30 years,
25:13 and the people love and trust our doctors.
25:16 Our teams come out not to play,
25:19 they know that they have to work hard
25:22 during the days that the hospitals open.
25:25 And give 110%,
25:29 give the very best care to the people.
25:31 And that's really appreciated.
25:33 The other thing that means a lot
25:37 to the islanders is that we love Jesus,
25:40 and we share that.
25:41 And that really, really touches their hearts.
25:45 I have seen patients who are scared to death.
25:49 And our doctors pray with the patients
25:51 and all of a sudden you could see
25:53 just all the fear going away.
25:55 We followed the senator from the island
25:57 through dental surgery the other day,
26:00 and then we interviewed him
26:01 and he saw that very thing,
26:03 just exactly what you're talking about.
26:05 That is the joy of this work,
26:07 he's being able to share Jesus in a very tangible way.
26:11 We're not just preaching, we're not preaching,
26:13 but we are really sharing this love.
26:16 You know, it's exactly what Jesus did.
26:18 When you think about it,
26:20 Jesus came in and He healed entire villages.
26:22 Before He ever taught
26:24 the gospel, really, He healed.
26:25 That's right.
26:27 And you've got to prepare hearts.
26:28 And, you know, if you're in a sick bed,
26:29 or if you're in trouble,
26:31 you can't think about spiritual things.
26:32 All you're thinking about is just yourself.
26:34 That's right.
26:35 So you relieving their pain and suffering.
26:37 That's right.
26:38 And it's so exciting to see
26:40 our volunteers involved in that
26:43 because, you know, some of them come out
26:45 and they've never been out on a mission
26:47 and just being able to share His love
26:50 and see how great the benefits are.
26:54 I mean, who has ever heard of having
26:57 cataracts for 1 year, 2 years, 3 years,
27:00 4 years, maybe even 10 years being blind that long?
27:04 I heard that somebody the other day with 20 years.
27:07 Can't even imagine it. Can you imagine?
27:09 Because in the United States or in the "Western world, "
27:15 it's like a elective surgery.
27:17 "Oh yeah, I can get my surgery done
27:19 maybe in three weeks or six weeks."
27:22 No, here in the islands,
27:23 they have to wait years before a team comes in,
27:27 before these lenses are available."
27:31 You know, if you'd like to be
27:32 a part of this exciting ministry,
27:33 you can write us at Canvasback Missions,
27:35 940 Adams Street,
27:37 Suite R, Benicia, California 94510.
27:42 You can also log on to
27:44 or call us at (707) 746-7828.
27:49 Thank you for watching.
27:50 Please join me again
27:52 for another exciting island adventure.
27:53 Remember Canvasback is making an impact
27:56 on hearts and lives one miracle at a time.


Revised 2020-11-15