Participants: Cheri Peters (Host), C A Murray
Series Code: CLR
Program Code: CLR000044A
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00:10 Hi! I'm C. A. Murray and welcome to season number four
00:13 of Celebrating Life in Recovery. 00:15 This is real television, real lives, real changes, 00:19 real victory in Jesus, real-life situations. 00:22 Stay by you will be blessed! 00:50 Welcome back! 00:51 You know C. A. is really funny when you talk about 00:54 real-life victories, all those kind of things, 00:56 this whole season is going to be about people 01:00 that not only came from really incredible things, 01:02 really some dark, dark backgrounds, 01:05 but they are all in Ministry. 01:06 To me it was so fun to put together, but I couldn't 01:10 hardly even do a teaching around it because I just 01:12 wanted folks to hear the story, see what God did, 01:15 and see what the next step for them was. 01:17 Incredible, and you know what is interesting, 01:19 and almost unbelievable, is that we are in season number 4. 01:22 I know! C. A.: It's gone really, really fast. 01:25 Also we did do some survey work just last year. 01:30 You know you want to make sure that you're kind of 01:33 scratching where people are itching, that you are 01:34 answering questions that are being asked. 01:36 We found out that this is one of the shows that has 01:39 been a major blessing to so many people. 01:41 But also we found that there are those who sort of 01:44 feared this show, and it is because we tackle stuff, 01:48 real-life stuff. 01:49 And there are those who, mistakenly, believe once 01:52 you come to Christ that all this stuff just 01:53 dissipates and disappears, 01:55 Cheri: Don't you wish that was true? 01:56 Yeah wish it was, I really do, 01:58 but what you get is coping skills. 01:59 So we are dealing this year with people who not only 02:01 survived, but thrived and give back, that is kind of 02:04 a new wrinkle, another layer of frosting on the cake, 02:08 as it were, It's a good thing. 02:10 I've got a, I want to even say to people that have 02:12 watched the program, bless you. 02:15 Because there are people that have e-mailed and 02:16 I could just feel their tears in the e-mail. 02:21 I could feel their tears in the letters. 02:24 They would say you know I'm so glad that you said 02:26 this out loud, in the light of God's love. 02:29 And the fact that you say this out loud 02:31 and God still loves us, God is so crazy about us, 02:34 there is still hope even in this. 02:36 It allows people to walk into recovery, 02:38 it allows people to know that not only are you going 02:41 to do recovery, but God is going to stand you up. 02:43 To me I'm like, How cool is that? 02:46 How absolutely cool is that and there are times 02:49 when I get to process with someone and somebody gets 02:53 to walk through those steps with one of the viewers, 02:55 or one of the listeners. 02:57 I get to see how God does that and stands them up 03:00 and I just want to kiss God on the face. 03:02 I want to say that every story really is about how cool 03:06 He is, and it is a vindication of who God is. 03:08 When somebody says is a little bit too much, 03:11 I think that about life. C. A.: Right! 03:14 You know what I mean when I go out to schools and hear 03:18 about molesting and abortions, and date rapes and all 03:22 that kind of stuff, multiple personalities, somebody 03:25 being raised by a schizophrenic mother. 03:27 I hear these stories and they are so intense that I have 03:31 to look at God and say, God can You do something here? 03:34 I just hear all of heaven say absolutely, 03:38 I can do something right there. 03:39 Yeah incredible, incredible. 03:40 You know I heard this cute story about this mother 03:42 who put her son on the bus to go to school. 03:44 Third day of school the bus leaves and he is standing 03:46 at the curb, so soon he knocks on the door and she 03:48 says what are you doing here the bus has left? 03:49 He said I quit school, she said you quit school? 03:53 Three days in to school, first grade and 03:54 you quit school? 03:55 He said yeah, I quit school, it's tough, it's hard, 03:58 and sometimes it's boring. 03:59 She said, welcome to life get, on the bus! 04:01 And that's what we deal with, sometimes it's tough, 04:05 it's hard, sometimes boring but that's life. 04:08 The people that we'll meet this year, really have 04:11 wrestled with life and have come forth in Jesus. 04:15 Hey I have got to tell you something, because we 04:16 get a lot of e- mails on you personally. 04:19 Should I brace myself? 04:23 They're on you personally, but the big thing is a 04:25 lot of it says she is very real, and that's what 04:29 we get the most, real and very believable. 04:32 I've been there, I know this stuff and people 04:35 buy that because it is coming from your heart. 04:37 People ask often, is she like that off camera too? 04:40 And we have to say, ah yeah! 04:41 In fact I'm probably a little tamer on camera. 04:45 So it makes a show real because we know we are dealing 04:51 with a person who has been through stuff, and the Lord 04:53 has blessed you and your giving back. 04:55 But even people who have a hard time with the stuff, 04:57 is that doesn't excite me anymore. 05:00 The stories and the junk and I think those are more 05:04 typical than abnormal anymore. 05:05 What excites me is whenever 05:07 I see a glimmer of somebody trusting God, 05:10 allowing God into that situation. 05:12 And then I want to celebrate, I want to say you know what? 05:14 just let that happen. 05:15 In this season we are doing a couple things. 05:18 We're covering people who have been there and 05:20 going into testimony. 05:22 We're covering how to talk to God because that is, 05:26 we have to connect with God, we have to somehow say we 05:30 don't know what we're doing, how I got here, it's just 05:33 a mess, and somehow get into saying this is how you 05:37 talk to God about this. 05:38 This is how you talk to God in the car, in the shower, 05:43 walking down the street, in a hospital room when you 05:46 just get diagnosed all those kind of stuff, in jail. 05:49 And you're going like man if you get me out of this one, you 05:54 know that prayer if you get me out of this one I'll never 05:56 do that again. Right! 05:58 So we have an offer I would like to put out there on 06:01 prayer, this is something to think about, prayer. 06:05 I never thought about the fact C. A., that God said, 06:09 I'm going to create you in my image, so that is all biblical. 06:13 You are created in the image of God. 06:15 In the Image of God we are created, and He spoke the 06:19 Universe into creation, right? 06:20 He spoke and it happened. 06:22 And we think we are created in His image and our 06:24 nose just looks like His. 06:25 Do you know what I mean? 06:26 Stop, He speaks and things happen and I think we 06:30 are created in that image and we speak, whether it 06:33 is positive or negative, and that is going 06:35 to reflect in our lives. 06:36 So being able to say, being aware of who you are 06:40 and to power of your speech and the power of God 06:44 in your life, so definitely the prayer book. 06:46 Some people have asked, Cheri, what about your book? 06:51 I wrote a book about the testimony of where I came 06:53 from and kind of thing, and I am going to have that 06:56 available at this time, Miracle From the Street. 06:58 There is another book, C. A. you can have that. 07:01 Yeah God Is Crazy about You, this is sort of 07:03 Cheri: your continuation yes, God is crazy about 07:10 you and He knows your junk and He is crazy about you. 07:12 That the affirmation we hear from you constantly. 07:15 And it is a worth while one because there are those 07:18 who get so beat down by life that they are not that 07:21 crazy about themselves and figured that God can't be 07:24 too crazy about me, because I don't even like what 07:26 I see in the mirror little alone what God sees. 07:28 This affirms that God is crazy about you, warts and all. 07:31 Exactly and what is really interesting the whole season 07:34 is about someone stepping into their relationship with God, 07:38 learning how to speak to God and walk in that 07:41 relationship into recovery. 07:43 Then how does he stand them up, that God Is Crazy 07:45 About You book is how God stood me up. 07:48 There were times that I literally was awestruck with 07:53 what He was doing in front of me, 07:55 totally unfolding who He was. 07:57 Not unfolding who I am, I know who I am and that 08:00 is not even worth unfolding. 08:02 He is like let me unfold who I Am and let you be 08:05 transformed in that. 08:07 So whole season is talking about who God is, 08:11 who we are in that, how do we speak to Him and then how 08:15 does He stand us up to go tell someone else, it's huge! 08:18 It is huge and what is really huge is the cherry on the 08:22 sundae as it were, not only our guests this year 08:26 recovering, what makes this year a little different 08:28 is that they're giving back, they are paying it back, 08:31 they are in evangelism, going out and giving others 08:33 they are sharing their recovery. 08:34 And that keeps us in recovery to do that, so we are 08:38 going to do the first roll. 08:39 I am going to show you some friends of mine, and they 08:41 live in the same area, I am blessed by these guys and 08:44 I get to work with them. 08:45 One of them is a gang member, and this gang member 08:47 left some folks for dead and just walked away 08:50 saying, what ever. 08:52 He was so proud of himself in how God brought him from 08:55 that, and we also brought his parole officer. 08:58 I loved that, and the parole officer had a program in 09:02 his own right, because this was a really rebellious kid. 09:04 God ended up cleaning up, bringing to ministry, 09:07 stepping him into prison guard, then parole officer 09:10 and now he teaches officers how to look at folks in 09:15 recovery in a way that is healing. 09:17 The third program that you are going see is my favorite 09:21 one to do, and I hate to say that because they are all so 09:23 amazing, because you get to share peoples testimonies. 09:27 But it was a group of bikers that are now coming out of 09:30 being incredibly twisted and messed up in bike gangs. 09:34 Coming out of Vietnam, strung out on heroine and all 09:37 that kind of stuff, going to prison for murder and now 09:40 they are going back to other bikers to tell them you 09:44 don't have to be there your whole life. 09:45 I've got to stop you because, yesterday I was 09:47 walking down the hall and I said boy that motorcycle sounds close 09:51 And I heard this broom, room, room, and then I heard 2, 09:55 3, 4, and realized that all those bikes were here on 09:57 the set, Cheri: we wanted them on the set. 09:59 It was great - that show on the bike was really good. 10:02 It was fun, okay enjoy this you will be blessed. 10:05 I sat there and I was looking at my car being worked on. 10:10 I looked on the floor and noticed a moving van coming 10:14 and pull in front of our house. 10:15 I just thought somebody was getting furniture, 10:18 looked down, looked up within seconds my yard was 10:21 full of military men with assault rifles. 10:25 Everybody had them pointing at us, 10:27 had my parents hogged-tied. 10:29 My sister was screaming saying listen to what they 10:36 are telling you, they're going to kill us. 10:37 It was just real dramatic and seeing my family have 10:42 to go through that for something that I had did. 10:43 Officer on the on the roof, my cousins jumped the fence, 10:47 and they were caught on the other side. 10:48 I mean it was really hard because we had left two 10:52 men to die under the bridge and thought 10:55 we had gotten away with it. 10:56 These men, I remember the emotion that 11:00 I had watching these men die. 11:03 It was just one of those things, they didn't die 11:07 by God's grace, but watching them bleed, 11:11 it was one of those things where, 11:12 it wasn't, it didn't affect me. 11:14 I knew there was some kind of evil presence 11:16 within me that allowed me to smile while 11:19 somebody was in pain like that. 11:20 Nobody should have to deal with that kind of pain, 11:24 but that's why was there we thought we had gotten 11:26 away with it but here we go with the SWAT team. 11:29 Half the National Guard had picked us up and I was 11:31 sitting in this cell, high on Meth, full of alcohol, 11:35 knowing the Devil's presence was in that cell. 11:39 I was in the lieutenant's office and she said, 11:41 what are you doing with the inmates? 11:43 I said, I am doing work crews I said, I am helping 11:46 no, no that is not what I'm talking about. 11:47 What's this Bible thing? 11:49 Well they know me from before and they know that 11:53 I am a Christian and they bring me their Bibles 11:54 and ask me questions. 11:56 Well you can't do that! 11:57 I said, with all due respect, my job as a correctional 12:00 officer is to use my life experience to prepare 12:04 them for the outside. 12:06 And it is only one thing I'm good at, and that's God. 12:08 That is all I know and so they are asked me something 12:11 that I know and I'm answering their questions, 12:13 is that against the rules? 12:14 Come to find out that lieutenant was a backslidden 12:16 Christian and she was very concerned for me that 12:21 I was going to get ganged by the offenders and get 12:22 disoriented and walk away from God like she did. 12:25 I ended up helping her recommitting her life to the 12:28 Lord in her office that day. 12:29 Cheri: That is incredible! 12:31 And she was my most staunch protector, 12:34 from that point forward. 12:35 God had you doing what you were doing and it's okay. 12:38 As long as I stay within the policy of the Department. 12:41 Exactly! 12:42 My sweet wife prayed for me for 23 years, she said 12:45 Lord change him, and finally she said Lord help him. 12:49 Two nights later she got the call, I was in jail and 12:54 had shot a man in a bar. 12:55 She stayed with me and that's what it took. 13:01 God finally said okay, now I am going 13:04 to get your attention. 13:05 I spent 23 years telling her I don't have a problem 13:08 with alcohol, I could quit anytime I wanted to. 13:09 When I am standing in front of a judge with my hands 13:12 cuffed behind me, we've charged you with attempted 13:14 murder, I said I think I have a problem. 13:16 You know finally gets through our heads. 13:19 It's what it took, God had to slap me down 13:21 to get my attention and then I said, What do 13:23 You want I'm listening. 13:24 Cheri: We start promising Him anything, You get me 13:28 out of this one, I promise you. 13:30 I mean I told people even then in 1974, I said, if I 13:35 can't have more fun being a Christian then I did being 13:39 in the bars, I will go back to the bars. 13:40 Guess what the only time I've been in a bar is a 13:43 poker run to get a coke or something. 13:45 Wow again really powerful stories and those bikers 13:49 are too much, a lot of nice guys. 13:51 nice guys and what is even interesting to me 13:54 about the bikers is, the newer guy, there's a guy 13:57 that just came to Christ. 13:59 For him, it was I brought my son into this lifestyle 14:03 and he's lost in it and just crazy in it, and that stuff 14:06 You could tell that his tears are just right on the 14:10 surface because he wants to somehow fix 14:12 everything that he did. 14:13 I think that as God stands him up, he will get the 14:17 privilege of seeing the restoration in his family. 14:19 Which is amazing! 14:21 I'm so glad that God does allow us, encourages us, 14:26 enables us to make changes. 14:28 You know you can become that Romans 12:1, that living 14:30 sacrifice, it is not about what you were, it is about 14:34 what you are a where you're going. 14:35 And who you are taking with you, and that is what 14:37 this year is about, about taking others with this. 14:39 And even with Max Revera, the gang member, he speaks 14:43 in front of judges, legislators, he has spoken front 14:46 of our governor in the state of Idaho. 14:48 People are bringing him in to talk about how to 14:52 negotiate with gang members. 14:53 So not only is God restoring him as a man of God, 14:58 in his family, people are calling him, would you mind 15:01 being on this task force? 15:03 He said there are times that he just says I cannot 15:06 believe they called and God just kisses him on the face. 15:09 Everything that the Devil meant to destroy you with, 15:12 I am going to use in order for you to bless 15:16 and help other people. 15:17 I'm thinking God, You are so God! 15:19 You do that so well! 15:21 Cheri: Exactly, exactly! 15:23 Okay the next one, you are going to love this next one. 15:25 We have another 3, and they are all Meth addicts, and 15:29 people wonder why we just did so much on Meth this 15:33 season, some folks in the studio had asked me that. 15:35 Because almost every other person I work with is on 15:39 Meth, because it is the drug right now that is trashing 15:42 the entire United States, but definitely worldwide it is 15:46 one of the worst drugs out there. 15:48 So we have got 3 people in Meth, and the first one 15:51 you are going to see is Rich and Susan Kollenberg. 15:55 They are from this horrible background, they had a 15:57 little shack they lived in with dirt floors and found 16:02 on a little tiny black and white TV because they were 16:04 so crazy they hardly ever leave their house and had to 16:08 turn it over to God. 16:09 They were almost crawling on the floor crazy 16:11 and they found 3ABN. 16:14 C. A. incredible! Praise the Lord! 16:16 And that is the only, only thing that kept them, 16:20 you know it was like a lifeline. 16:22 Now not only is she in recovery, but she works for 16:25 Amazing Facts with Doug Batchelor. 16:27 The very evangelist she saw in that little black-and- 16:30 white TV when she was out of her mind. 16:31 And I think, God how fun are you? 16:34 He says I will give you the desire of your heart, 16:36 I will stand you up, and you will be so blessed 16:39 you will sometimes not even know how to thank Me. 16:41 Not that God needs it, but you won't even know how to 16:44 because you will be so thrilled. 16:46 The other person is a friend of mine, Dave Parnell. 16:49 So tweaking on Meth, so crazy literally took an 16:53 assault rifle put it up to his chin and blew his whole, 16:55 he thought he was going to blow his head off, he blew 16:58 his face off and lived. 16:59 Now as he died the third time in the ambulance he 17:04 thinks, you know I think a better stop using drugs. 17:07 And I'm like you think! The big Dah! 17:10 I know but now he is talking to hundreds and thousands 17:15 of kids about the dangers of drugs. 17:18 He goes out there with a face that was re-built, his 17:21 nose and everything rebuilt by bones in his hips. 17:24 The skin on his nose was pulled from his forehead 17:27 and they made a new nose for him. 17:29 He has had 30 facial surgeries and he has only 17:32 been a Christian for the last 5 years. 17:34 So he is a baby still and God has got him standing up 17:38 already and he doesn't even know what it means to stand 17:39 up, he is a little bit of afraid. 17:41 He has 7 kids all born in this drug crazy stuff, 17:45 and now God is saying stand up I need you to teach 17:48 somebody the dangers of this drug. 17:50 The third person you're going to meet is Ken and Sherry 17:53 Blundell and what is really fun about them is that they 17:57 are both in ministry. 17:58 He is a pastor now, 24 years Meth addict, in and out 18:02 of stumbling around even in his ministry, and God is 18:07 still saying, this is a man after my own heart. 18:09 You will be blessed by all of them. 18:13 They have come from horrendous backgrounds, 18:15 you'll enjoy this one you will be blessed. 18:17 And you know at that point in time you have to make a 18:22 decision, you can use drugs one more day you are going 18:26 to die, this is it, it has come down to this. 18:28 And you look back on your life you say I know 18:32 it's come down to this. 18:33 When you make that decision and you start telling 18:37 friends, I'm not going to use drugs anymore, 18:41 of course naturally they say yeah, right! 18:43 But you know in your heart that you have changed 18:47 you are going to turn around, you do not know how 18:49 you are going to do it. 18:50 I would call her up and I would say I do not know 18:53 what to do, she say just pray and God will help you. 18:55 So for 3 months I prayed a 3 word prayer, God help me! 18:59 Just God help me, and He was there for me. 19:02 So it doesn't have to be complicated, prayer does not 19:06 have to be complicated. 19:08 No, I can remember lying face down on my bed, screaming 19:11 at the top of my lungs for God to help me the last time. 19:13 Because I didn't know what was going to do, didn't know 19:15 how I was going to do it, all I know is that everything, 19:17 I had done up to that point was wrong. 19:19 And I will come home at 9:30 in the morning. 19:21 At this time you had how many kids? 19:23 At this time 6. 19:24 I would come home at 9:30 in the morning the 21 of 19:27 February in 2003, her and the kids were packing up to 19:30 leave, and I asked her if we could lay down and talk 19:32 about it, I was too sick to stand up by this point 19:34 I had lost so much weight and stuff, after 2 or 3 days 19:37 I would get real sick. 19:38 I got sick that morning and she agreed to lay down 19:40 beside me and said that she would talk to me for a 19:43 moment but me the kids are still going to leave. 19:45 When she said that something in me snapped. 19:47 I reached over her and grabbed my SK rifle laid on my 19:51 stomach, pushed the barrel up under my chin. 19:53 I thought man that's it, I'm going to blow my head off. 19:55 This dope has robbed me of everything. 19:57 She screamed and reached to grab the barrel out from 19:59 under my chin, but before she could grab it 20:01 I pulled the trigger. 20:02 The bullet went in me here and came out between 20:04 my eyes, breaking every bone in my face except 20:06 my left eye socket. 20:07 It had blow my nose off, all my front teeth out, 20:10 but I didn't pass out. 20:13 I remember hearing that gun blast, and I felt my face 20:15 fall apart, because Meth has such a strong stimulant, 20:19 it kept me awake doing all that. 20:21 I fell off the bed onto the floor, my wife went to screaming 20:25 and my kids came running back to the bedroom. 20:27 You entire half of your face laid on the floor too! 20:29 Yeah and I'm laying face down trying to hold my face 20:33 together, I thought the whole front of my face had actually 20:35 blown off, that is what it felt like. 20:37 And my kids, what I remember and what really haunts me, 20:41 is my kids. 20:42 I still remember my boy David, jumping up and down 20:45 in a circle throwing his hands like this. 20:48 Of course I couldn't see him, but he is screaming 20:50 Daddy's dead, Daddy's dead! 20:51 I mean and then he disappeared again. 20:53 And at that point, I have had enough, I was going back 20:58 to California, I didn't want anymore. 21:01 And Ken called me from a motel in town and asked if 21:08 he could come home. 21:10 I said I really don't care. 21:11 Cheri: I've done that I can't do this again. 21:13 And he came home. 21:15 You know I came home, and I remember when I called 21:20 you that night, my life I knew it was over. 21:25 This wasn't the first time that this had happened, 21:28 multiple times, I hadn't been faithful to you on more 21:31 than one occasion. 21:32 I thought well Lord, I've hit bottom what am I going to do? 21:36 In that motel room I prayed and asked God to help me. 21:39 Of course I was coming down from being on Meth for 21:42 several days and I've got home and said hello to you. 21:47 We hardly said anything, she had nothing to say to me. 21:51 I walked back into the bedroom and I picked up this 21:54 Bible and I opened it up. 21:55 And I opened it up to just where I am right now. 21:58 I say God help me what do I need? 21:59 Man I've got to say even with Dave and C. A., 22:05 I don't know if you were in on the discussions but, 22:07 Dave the Meth addict, that blew his face off had 22:11 hundreds of pictures on a DVD that we were going 22:16 to show during his program. 22:18 Because you know when the police came into the crime 22:19 scene, they came into pull him off of floor thinking he 22:22 was dead, his entire face laid on the floor, 22:25 and he started talking. 22:27 It's like, everybody is like this, it is so not right. 22:30 His son, his children are screaming and 22:33 his wife is screaming. 22:34 One of the sons called his mom. 22:36 His mom came over and she is screaming and he is alive. 22:39 So the staff here went through the pictures to see what 22:43 we could actually show. C. A.: Yeah! 22:45 Dave went in, as he teaches, he went in and have 22:49 pictures of Meth labs, has pictures of this one 22:51 couple that was so strung out that 22:55 they forgot to feed their child. 22:57 They found the baby with rigor mortis and dead in the 23:01 crib. C. A.: Incredible! 23:02 They just forgot to feed him, forgot that he was even there, 23:04 and not only, and this was days and days and 23:08 days that this kid was not fed. 23:10 They have pictures of this. 23:11 They have pictures of kids coming out of the Meth lab 23:14 with sores all around their face, and they finally 23:17 figure out those were cockroaches that were eating 23:19 their skin while these kids slept. 23:22 They were so much filth in these places. 23:23 As we were trying to figure out what even kind of 23:26 pictures we could show, what they said is we can't 23:28 hardly show any of this. 23:29 Yeah we had to pull the plug on so many of them because 23:32 they are just so very, very strong, and yet they are not 23:35 made up, they are not things we invented, 23:38 it wasn't done in the studio. 23:39 That is the life that they live. Cheri: Exactly! 23:42 That's the life that many, you said just a moment ago, 23:44 when you look at these, everybody thinks they are the 23:47 only one, yet there are so many thousands, tens of 23:51 thousands who are suffering that way. 23:53 The good thing is, Cheri: and so predictable, 23:55 and so predictable, what is unpredictable is 23:57 what God is going to do for you when you get straight. 24:00 How is He going to use this individual. 24:02 right that is what is unpredictable. 24:03 So we look at the story where a fellow tried to kill 24:07 himself and all he did is rearrange his face. 24:10 Then science has to come back and rearrange it again, 24:12 now God is rearranging his life. 24:15 He is actively rearranging the lives of other people, 24:18 that's what makes this so great, so powerful. 24:19 Cheri: it's absolutely to me, I'm so proud of God, 24:23 for one, when some of these folks stand up there so 24:26 much shame in who they are and what they have done, 24:29 and the extent of where they have been in their life 24:32 that they don't want to stand up and 24:33 they don't want to share it with anybody. 24:35 I don't want to tell you how bad I have been, 24:38 I don't want to show you what that lifestyle looks like, 24:41 and because you know what some of it is so disgusting 24:44 that I'm afraid of what you will think about me. 24:47 God says you know what, there is going to be a time, 24:49 and when somebody told me this C.A. 24:51 I was just like, are you nuts? 24:53 There is going to be a time that you use every 24:56 single thing, that you will bring every single thing 24:58 to the table because it helps to vindicate who God is, 25:01 it helps to vindicate what is wrong with this lifestyle. 25:04 What is wrong with the lifestyle that's it can 25:07 so take you under its control 25:09 that you will not even feed your child? 25:11 You will not even care if you are sleeping on top of 25:15 chemicals that can blow the entire city block up. 25:18 You won't even care, you will not even care that your 25:20 child has Meth sores and they are only 3 years old, 25:23 because you are so twisted. 25:25 God says I will take all that kind of stuff and you'll 25:28 use it in ministry, and most of us say you got to be kidding. 25:31 God says, Oh absolutely not that's who I Am. 25:33 Will be right back stay with us and you will be even 25:36 more blessed with the next things we that share with you. 25:39 Come back! |
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