Participants: Cheri Peters (Host), Johanahn Larsosa, Krystal Robinson
Series Code: CLR
Program Code: CLR000104B
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00:01 The following program discusses sensitive issues
00:03 related to addictive behavior. 00:05 Parents are cautioned that some material 00:06 may be too candid for younger children. 00:14 Welcome back, for those of you who are just joining us, 00:17 we're talking to a friend of mine Han. 00:19 And I am hoping that you are in my life forever. 00:25 I met you in Detroit. 00:26 It was an amazing time, but the first half 00:28 we were talking about your life, what it was like growing up, 00:31 that there was in your neighborhood 00:34 a lot of gang activity. 00:36 Even though, you're home with your Mamma 00:37 that wasn't her intention. 00:39 She really worked at raising you guys. 00:41 Krystal, you're joining in us. 00:43 But I keep hearing everybody call you Po. 00:45 So what is that about? 00:48 Okay, Po is just a nick name from Chrissie Po, 00:52 my twin brother say it. 00:54 I don't know, I mean, they always had this debate 00:56 about who named me, you know, so, you know, it just came, 00:59 you know, Po at the end-- So Johanahn is your brother? 01:01 Yes, and he has a twin. 01:03 Okay and they named you-- 01:05 Yes, so they had a debate about who calls me Chrissie Po-- 01:06 You know, I named her. So you did. 01:10 So and, you know what, I'm so used to hearing that. 01:14 Well, I'm just gonna Krystal or Po, 01:15 what shall we call you? Yes, you can call me, Po. 01:17 It's fine. Okay. 01:18 So, Po, when he's talking about the background 01:21 and where you guys grew up what's your take on it? 01:26 I guess, my take on it would be just, 01:28 I think it was just a typical young family to me 01:32 like just everyday he sold drugs 01:36 and Jasan did as well but he left. 01:41 You know, like he wasn't here as much. So-- 01:43 So he left earlier, but, you know, 01:44 when you say that it was just a typical family. 01:46 Yeah, that's just how I looked at it then. 01:48 You know, now I'm like, 01:49 yeah, it was kind of like dysfunctional, 01:50 but, you know, then, I mean, everybody was doing it, 01:52 in the neighborhood, so that was just 01:54 what we thought as a black male, 01:56 which, you know, you did, so-- 01:58 So let me, 'cause you guys were young, right? 02:01 When all that kind of stuff was brought into your life, 02:04 you're pretty young running drugs, 02:05 doing all that kind of stuff. And that's normal? 02:09 Yeah, at the time we thought it was normal, yeah. 02:12 Yeah, and I think that's true for a lot of people. 02:15 You know, coming from-- and what I want to say 02:17 when I do a program like this is I want to just shout out 02:20 to everybody is that it should never be normal, 02:22 that should never be the way it is. Right. 02:23 And I know that we're gonna get into-- 02:26 a little bit into your testimony 02:27 of what you're trying to do to change that. 02:29 But right now, we're just kind of-- 02:31 I'm getting a feel of where you guys grow up. 02:35 I know that at one point you get shot. 02:40 I want to--what happened? Tell me about that. 02:44 Well, that night it was a, it was just a regular night. 02:49 We used to go to a local bar, every single night, so-- 02:57 And this is doing business, 02:58 partying, and hanging out all that kind of stuff? 03:00 Yeah, like when the business slowed up, 03:02 we always go out to the local bar and-- 03:05 Were you with him? Yes, I was. 03:07 And usually, you know, I mean, he had-- 03:08 he didn't add this on, but, you know, he always had 03:11 about three or four girlfriends. 03:12 So, you know, he just kind of-- 03:15 So when he says he was the guy, he was the guy? 03:19 Yeah, yeah, he was. 03:20 Women hanging on him, walking in, 03:23 being the one with the money or selling drugs. 03:27 So I mean, I guess just him, just getting sort to the top. 03:31 You know, it's funny because, 03:32 you know, just before he got shot, 03:36 his clientele actually, you know, was on a rise. 03:39 So, you know, I don't know, 03:40 you know, what was the plan next or, 03:43 you know, what was gonna go on. 03:44 But, you know, it just a typical, you know, day. 03:47 You know, we'd just say, okay, let's run into a bar and... 03:50 And so you were doing well, doing good? 03:52 I was doing well. 03:53 So and so it was like we had to, 03:56 we had to do this like, it was like a ritual. 03:58 Every night we'd go to the local bar and, 04:01 you know, just to get their attention 04:03 that I want it, so-- Explain that? 04:06 Because you can't be absent and hold that much power. 04:10 You have to be around people and you have to be playing them 04:14 and you have to make sure that you are given that respect. 04:18 It is not--and that's why I think it's not a position 04:21 that's easy to maintain. 04:24 You have to really work at that. 04:25 Right, so it was-- and I'm glad you said that 04:27 'cause it was like I needed to be 04:30 in that atmosphere every single night. 04:33 So I used to thrive for it. 04:34 So it was like, you know, like I said it was a ritual. 04:37 We used to go to every night, 04:39 'cause I wanted that same attention 04:40 that everybody knew me 04:42 and, you know, everybody knew what I was doing. 04:44 So it just happened to-- 04:46 it was one of our friends had invited me 04:48 to go somewhere else with him. 04:50 I told him that I was gonna go with him, 04:51 but I didn't, you know, it was just a lie. 04:54 I just needed to be in a same atmosphere that I was always in. 04:56 So actually we was-- we were going up to the bar 05:02 and I thought I saw my friend coming to get me. 05:05 He wanted to, you know, meet with some women 05:08 and so he was coming to pick me up. 05:10 So I saw a car, 05:13 it was at the corner of my-- of our old street. 05:15 So I saw a car coming up, 05:17 I thought it was him trying to pick me up. 05:18 So I was like, come on, pull this, hurry up and run in. 05:20 So I can get that, you know, that high. 05:22 You know, that high that I wanted that attention, 05:25 so we can walk in and everybody, you know, saying our names 05:28 and stuff like that, so we were kind of in a rush. 05:31 So at the time we were walking in, 05:35 you know, some people were coming out, 05:36 it was two guys coming out, coming out the bar. 05:38 And we kind of looked like we was in a rush 05:40 and I guess I don't know the guy probably he might have been, 05:43 you know, drunk or whatever, whatever it was. 05:46 He was coming out and he made it seem like, 05:49 it looked like we was going to do something wrong to him 05:50 like rob them or something. 05:52 So on the way in, on the way in the bar, 05:55 you know, he pulled his gun out like "You all trying to rob me." 05:59 So I'm like, you know, me being me, 06:02 I couldn't, you know, smart mouth 06:04 and I'm thinking who this guy think 06:05 he is talking to even though he had his weapon on him-- 06:08 So you're gonna jump in his face, 06:10 even though he has got a gun. Right. 06:11 I'm gonna be right in your face and who are you talking to. 06:14 Mm-hmm, that's exactly and that who, 06:16 that's the type of person I was. 06:17 So, you know, but I'm telling my little sister 06:19 I'm like go in the bar 'cause just in case 06:21 it might be something might get out of hand. 06:23 So what did you think, when this was happening? 06:25 'Cause you see the guy, 06:26 you see all of that happen and it shouldn't happen. 06:28 You guys were just gonna run in, run out. 06:30 And now all the sudden everything is change. 06:32 Yeah, I mean, we were just running in, 06:34 you know, not thinking about anything. 06:36 So, you know, when the guy actually comes out 06:40 and he just pull his gun out, 06:42 you know, not a gun, it's just pointed at us. 06:44 So, you know, we both stop, 06:46 but Johanahn was a little closer than I was. 06:50 So, you know, when he pulled it out. 06:53 I mean, you know, when he pulled his gun out, 06:54 you know, we just stood there, 06:56 but, you know, Johanahn got mad and upset because he did, 06:59 you know, he was just like me. 07:00 You know, he started to argue with the guy. 07:02 And I could imagine not only did you have to hold your position, 07:08 'cause that's a big deal 07:09 and not only you have to hold your own, 07:12 but he's pulling the gun on you with your sister there 07:15 and that's just not gonna happen. 07:17 I could imagine what you were feeling. 07:19 I'm not even thinking that this fool has a gun. 07:22 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 07:23 So, you know, it was always-- 07:24 I was always a little overprotective 07:26 with Po, anyways, so it was like protecting thing, 07:29 but it was kind of like a form of disrespect as well. 07:31 So I was real angry, so, you know, like we said 07:34 he, he pulled the gun out. 07:37 You know, we had some words and, you know, 07:39 that--if I could remember correctly 07:41 that he was with his friend and this, 07:43 you know, his friend was telling him to come on. 07:45 And you know, I just wouldn't stop talking, 07:47 I was so angry, you know, I was just, you know, 07:49 just continued to say, you know, nasty stuff to him-- 07:54 Yeah, you are right in his face. Right so-- 07:56 So even if you wanted to back off, 07:58 he's almost not being able to 08:00 'cause you've ratted it up? 08:02 Yes. Wow. 08:03 So you know, and I went on and went on 08:06 and, you know, he might have said some more things. 08:09 And his friend actually turned him around 08:12 and, you know, I continued to talk, talk down to him 08:16 and then he just turned around. 08:17 He might have said some words, I'm not sure. Yeah. 08:21 I mean, well, he just, you know, he was ready to go. 08:24 The guy actually was going not to shoot him, 08:26 you know, he just was kind of like, 08:29 you know, walking and then his friend was like 08:31 "Why are you standing there? 08:32 You know, you're just talking. 08:33 He ain't gonna do nothing." And then... 08:35 So everybody kind of pushed out everyone. 08:38 What were you thinking? I was terrified. 08:41 'Cause I just didn't know, 08:43 you know, what was about to happen-- 08:45 No, no, I was literally froze. Okay. 08:48 And what's really interesting to me 08:50 about that is that when it gets that intense, 08:55 you don't know whether to say something 08:57 it's gonna make it worst 08:58 or be quiet that is gonna make it worst 09:00 and so it is frightening, it is. Very. 09:03 So he ends up pulling the trigger. 09:07 Where did you get shot? 09:09 I got shot right in my side. Okay. 09:13 Right in my side and he shot me one time with a 44 09:18 and after he shot me, 09:22 you know, 'cause I was telling Po to go in the bar, 09:24 she never went in a bar. 09:25 So after he shot me-- You just stood there? 09:27 Yeah, I never went, 'cause I didn't want to leave him, 09:28 so I never went. 09:30 Is it's your brother? Yeah. 09:31 And I just didn't know what was gonna happen, 09:33 so I never left. Okay. 09:34 So after he shot me, shot me one time, bam! 09:40 She actually, you know, started screaming 09:41 and went inside the bar. 09:43 And he actually went in after her. 09:46 Yeah, 'cause I stood there after when he shot him, 09:49 you know, I saw him, you know, like hit up against the wall 09:53 and he slid down. 09:54 So I stood there and I started screaming 09:56 and crying and then, 09:58 I guess, since I was causing so much attention. 10:00 He looked back at me and he was coming toward me, but I ran. 10:04 And, you know, but at the same time I have in my like, 10:06 you know, my brother's still out there. 10:08 Yeah, so, you know, at the same time I'm just going crazy, 10:10 'cause I'm like I can't leave, 10:12 but why is he following me, you know, so-- 10:15 At that point was he, 'cause now he has already shot one person 10:19 and now has to shut you up. 10:21 And so you know, 10:23 it could turn uglier than it has, it is right now. 10:28 But I just still had on my mind that he was still there, 10:30 so I was just I ran. 10:32 So everybody can hear basically almost what's going on but. 10:37 So as I was running inside of the bar 10:39 everybody else started running through the back door, 10:41 so as everybody still running through the back door, 10:43 I'm in the back door, but I'm trying to hide somewhere, 10:47 so my attention is still to go back to the front, 10:50 because I know he's still up there shot 10:52 and I don't if he dead or what. So-- 10:54 I can't even imagine what that what it felt like. 10:56 Yeah, I just, it was crazy, so when I hear for a minute, 11:02 but, you know, everybody kept running out, 11:05 so I kept running and then I ran around. 11:08 I jumped the fence, so I have my purse, 11:10 heels everything and so I jumped the fence 11:12 I run through a alley, 11:14 jumped a fence run all the way around the corner, 11:16 out of breath and then I run back to the bar 11:20 and by the time I get back there, 11:23 the police were actually there and then-- 11:25 So somebody had called. Yes, yes. 11:27 Because everybody knew what was going on, but. Right. 11:30 And so were you still conscious or you were unconscious? 11:34 I was conscious, I was conscious. 11:36 Well, I don't really remember like detail like what happened. 11:39 I just remember like hearing people screaming and, 11:42 you know, just laying there. 11:44 Not being able to move and I remember 11:46 I kind of lift my head up a couple of times, 11:48 trying to stay woke, 'cause I was kind of, 11:50 I was real exhausted, like I just wanted to go to sleep. 11:53 'Cause you lost blood. 11:54 Yeah, I was out there for a minute, 11:56 I was out there for a minute, waiting for the EMS. 11:58 Actually the police said when they got I was out there so long 12:01 and they was just gonna through me in a squad car 12:04 and take me to the hospital, 12:05 but, you know, ambulance actually ended up coming, 12:09 I think somebody else was in it, 12:10 for like a black-eye or something. 12:12 So they put him out the ambulance. 12:14 And I had to wait for another one had me take this ambulance. 12:16 Exactly, 'cause that you were priority at that point. Right. 12:19 So now you get to the hospital. 12:22 What happens at the hospital? 12:23 Well, on the way to the hospital I'm like I'm just so exhausted, 12:25 'cause, you know, I got shot one time. 12:27 But, you know, I got-- broke my spine in half, 12:33 damaged my lungs, loss of kidney, 12:36 damaged my liver, so you know, 12:38 I was really, you know, 12:39 fighting for my life, you know, I can just-- 12:41 Did you know, at what point 12:42 did you know that hey this is serious, 12:45 this is serious I think I may die here? 12:49 In the ambulance. Okay. 12:51 In the ambulance, 'cause I'm like-- 12:52 Were you with him? 12:54 No. Okay. 12:55 I'm like in the ambulance, 12:56 you know, it comes natural for us to breath, 12:58 but I was I remember myself fighting for breath. 13:01 And I'm like I just want to go to-- 13:02 I just want to, you know, nod off and take a nap 13:05 and I'm saying to myself like, 13:07 you know, I didn't know God at all, 13:09 I didn't, so I'm like, 13:10 I guess it's time to meet Christ, 13:14 I guess it's time to meet God-- 13:15 It's time to make things right whatever. 13:16 No, so I'm like I'm just ready to just go to sleep 13:19 for like half a second and I thought about it, 13:21 and I'm like, no, I just, so I just kept fighting, 13:24 kept fighting for them breathes, you know. 13:28 Made it down to the hospital 13:29 and, you know, when everybody arrested me, 13:31 that's when I, I just finally just like, 13:33 you know, gave up at the end. 13:35 Grace of God, you know, I woke up 13:38 probably a couple of days later that I can remember. 13:42 And so in the time that he is at the ambulance, 13:45 you, come back around. 13:47 Do you see him go and-- 13:48 Yes, I see him. 13:50 Yeah, I just see the puddle of blood that's on the ground. 13:53 He was gone? 13:55 Yeah, he was gone and the police officers, 14:00 I guess, somehow somebody told him that I was there. 14:03 So they took me into a squad car and they questioned me. 14:07 And I can just remember being so angry, 14:09 because I was there and I didn't want to talk at all, 14:11 because I just wanted to get to where he was, 14:13 'cause I didn't know if he were dead-- 14:14 You needed to go to the hospital. Yeah. 14:16 And they want to know what happen? Right. 14:17 Who shot him? 14:18 So I was just trying to give them a story, 14:20 so that I could be let me go and I was angry, 14:24 'cause I had been drinking too so-- 14:25 Yeah, and even in that lifestyle what's really interesting, 14:29 'cause it's a whole different lifestyle 14:30 as I'm not talking to anybody, I'm not giving up anybody. 14:34 I just want to get to my brother. 14:35 And so it's not even that that-- 14:39 don't ask me anything, you know. 14:42 So I was just in the back of the car 14:45 and then they finally let me go, 14:48 but they still wanted me there to-- 14:51 I don't know, it was just crazy, 14:53 'cause there was so much going on, 14:54 you know, it just didn't question-- 14:56 How long did it take you to get to the hospital? 14:57 I didn't make it to the hospital that night. Okay. 15:01 They just, they kept questioning me in the after that 15:03 I guess everybody say that 15:05 I was just out of my mind and I tried to go home. 15:08 You know, they're like "No, you know, you can't go." 15:11 And it was just a lot going on. 15:13 So when you finally get that 15:15 you realize that is pretty serious? 15:17 When I got there that's when I was really scared 15:21 and sad because, man, I guess 15:23 it was so many people going out to the hospital, 15:25 so they were just trying to get his correct name, 15:27 his correct information, and his birthday and everything. 15:30 So when I came in it was, 15:31 you know, I finally, you know told the doctor-- 15:34 This is who he is. 15:36 Yes, 'cause they said they had no idea 15:38 who he was and no ID on him. 15:39 There were so many people come in and out, 15:41 but everybody was given them 15:42 every kind of information that was. 15:44 At what point--and did he talk-- who talked to who about, 15:47 you know, he may not walk again, 15:50 he may not come up to out of this bed the same guy? 15:53 Yes, now I asked one of the doctors 15:56 who was going on. 15:57 And they say that-- 15:58 and I was just thinking to myself like, 16:00 "Oh, my goodness did they even tell him that yet." 16:02 So I walked in the room and he was, 16:06 you know, they had him all kind of medications. 16:07 So he is happy, he is fine. 16:09 Yeah, but he was like going crazy a little bit 16:12 like he was asking me to open windows 16:14 that wasn't in there and just, I'm like what is going on. 16:18 So it was just weird and I was just, I just wasn't for sure 16:22 if they told him what was going on and that. 16:23 So do you remember coming out of all that? 16:25 I remember coming out of-- 16:27 I remember it like the first day of knowing that 16:31 I was in the hospital. 16:32 And the doctors--and you ask the doctor I remember 16:35 you told me when we met is that I ask the doctor, 16:37 you know, when am I going to be able to get up and leave. 16:40 Yeah, they had to be like a couple of days after, 16:43 you know, everybody else that knew 16:45 and I don't know if they assumed that I knew. 16:48 But I remember it was me and my older brother in there 16:50 and there was a young doctor. 16:52 And so I'm like I just remember being in pain from the surgery 16:56 and just not being able to move my legs, 16:58 but yeah, I still didn't get it. 17:01 So it was a young doctor he was leave out the room 17:04 and I ask him like so how long it might gonna, 17:06 you know, how long am I gonna-- be in this situation? 17:09 When am I going to be able get up and walk up out of here? 17:11 And then he just looked me right in my eye 17:13 and "Oh, no you'll never walk again." 17:15 So I'm like--just like that. Just like that. 17:17 You know, you'll never walk again. 17:19 So I was like, you know, it didn't hit me. 17:21 I'm just like, okay, 'cause, you know, the days that, 17:24 you know, when I finally came back to it 17:27 I just remember nurses coming in, 17:30 you know, with tears in their eyes looking like 17:32 "Oh, my goodness you didn't you almost didn't make it." 17:34 And they were telling me like 17:36 how I wasn't supposed to make it. 17:37 So I was just happy to be there. 17:39 So when everybody told me 17:40 that I really I was just still I'm like okay. 17:42 You're still in shock. 17:44 Right, I'm not even, you know, 17:45 I've really never sat back in thought like it felt bad 17:48 that I wouldn't gonna walk 17:50 I was just always happy to be alive, so-- 17:52 Do you know, what I'd like to ask 17:55 and, you know, 'cause unfortunately 17:57 we always limited to that time of the program, 17:59 but how did God get a hold of you in that situation? 18:03 You know, all you really know is that lifestyle. 18:06 Now you looking at an incredible change, 18:09 because I am never gonna walk again 18:12 and I am kind of coming to, coming out of shock 18:17 with all of those new facts and where is God? 18:20 You know, God still was, I was still far away from God, 18:25 because when I came home, 18:26 you know, I was praying God for saving my life, 18:29 but when as soon as, you know they let me go out back to, 18:34 back to the same thing for years after it. 18:37 No way, still dealing, still running, 18:39 but from a chair? From a chair. 18:42 Stop. It was like, it was like-- 18:44 You just want to say there is no way, 18:46 you know, and what I want to say is 18:48 that how crazy are we 18:50 that, you know, you can give me a thousand chances 18:52 and I am still gonna be running. 18:55 Yeah, it was just like that. Still fighting. 18:57 And God says, "I'm still coming after you." 19:00 Yeah, that's how good God is. Which is crazy. 19:02 So when he got out and he is going back to the lifestyle 19:04 what did you think, I mean, was there-- 19:06 You know, I was just scared 19:08 and I was just like I hope we never go in that bar again 19:11 that's really the same thing like I just I couldn't wild pass 19:14 and I didn't want to look that way, but, you know, 19:17 well, everything was still the same, we was just like-- 19:18 So everybody is just in denial 19:20 and we're just gonna live our life the same? 19:21 Yeah, we're just going to forgot about that part 19:24 and try to get past and like as long as he okay 19:26 and, you know, everything is to get on me. 19:28 We were still drinking, party and fighting and everything. 19:31 Even with that, even with that, 19:33 I come home and we like we just not gonna go to the bar again, 19:35 forget that bar and then after the time pass, 19:38 you know, we was right back in the bar, 19:40 we was right back in the same place. 19:41 So how does God get through to somebody like that? 19:44 So, you know, but I always like I said 19:46 I always knew something was missing. 19:48 So actually the Lord grabbed her. 19:51 You first? How? 19:55 Through actually my husband now, but boyfriend at the time. 20:02 He wanted me to meet his mother. 20:05 So his mom said, bring her to an Evangelistic series. 20:13 You know, when you're saying that 20:15 I'm thinking how funny is that, 20:18 you know, that's so far remove from anything 20:21 you know, but you like this guy. Right. 20:24 So, you know, he wanted me to meet her. 20:26 So I was like, okay, you know, my thing was, 20:29 you know, just with guys, you know, I always, 20:32 you know, like my brother say, you know, he always, 20:34 you know, felt the power, selling drugs things like. 20:37 That so my thing was always, you know, I'm not going, 20:40 you know, I'll never fall in love with a guy 20:42 and never, you know, allow a guy to like take control of me. 20:47 So you know, I would talk to different guys 20:48 and I do, you know, things like that around the time 20:51 you know he was doing drugs, 'cause I never got caught up 20:53 in the drugs thing or whatever. 20:55 So, you know, I was like oh, yeah sure, 20:57 you know, so I went and I enjoyed it. 21:01 I mean, it was just a lot of truth 21:04 and I was like wow, you know, this is really making sense. 21:07 I've never been to a church 21:08 that's like actually talking about the Bible. 21:11 So after that I got invited again. 21:16 So we went and then I just told my brother and his girlfriend 21:23 and this was how the Holy Spirit worked. 21:26 You surrendered, I feel the presence of God, 21:30 I know it's real, I can't explain that, 21:32 but and to me when somebody says, 21:35 you know, that-- 21:37 when somebody tries to judge somebody's lifestyle 21:39 I say, don't you dare, 21:41 'cause I watched the Holy Spirit reaching into places 21:43 that you just think there is no way 21:45 they're gonna come out of that. 21:46 And God says, "Just wait, I love her, I love him, 21:51 these are My children." 21:53 And you don't even know, 21:54 you don't even know what they've seen in their life, 21:56 what set them up for those kind of things 21:59 and I think that God is just so faithful with us. 22:02 And so it won your heart? 22:03 Yes. Won your heart. 22:05 Now you have to go into your family, I love that. 22:08 Go into your family where people are acting the fool, 22:11 they're shooting each other, they are getting shot, 22:13 they are running everything 22:14 and you have to go in your family 22:15 and say, you know... 22:17 Yeah, so I--but, you know, 22:19 yeah and it didn't happen that fast. 22:21 You know, it was like, our brother would, 22:23 'cause I guess doing this time it was around my birthday, 22:27 so every week we just did this thing 22:29 where we was like it's my birthday, 22:31 so every week we was going to that same bar 22:34 and we was like, you know, every week 22:36 this is just a tradition that we was gonna start doing. 22:39 So he was calling my phone, 22:41 my brother is call my phone at the time, 22:43 saying come on it's your birthday 22:44 we got to see you at the bar. 22:46 So I was like, okay. 22:48 But, you know, I'd never went. 22:50 It was just, he kept calling for weeks 22:52 like "What is you doing?" 22:53 Like come up to-- Absolutely, yeah. 22:55 And I just really didn't know how to say like, 22:58 I think that the Lord is working or you know, 23:00 I just really didn't know what to say 23:01 I was puzzled, I was scared. 23:05 You know, Krystal, I think that's the funniest thing, 23:07 because, you know, my family are a lot of addicts, 23:11 you know, and, you know, my dad dies in a crack, 23:15 so to walk in with something normal 23:17 it's like you're ashamed. Right. 23:20 And it just it's so reverse. 23:22 It's so, it so odd for a lot of people to hear. 23:25 It's a shame that you actually wanted to do good. 23:29 But it is it's a really different. 23:31 So you started seeing a change in her? 23:34 Yeah, and she was just kind of hiding it. 23:35 So every--I think it was the Tuesday or Wednesday 23:39 I'm calling her, 'cause I'm like it's her birthday 23:42 every Tuesday in the bar, 23:43 so I'm like she missed this birthday. 23:46 And then I'm like she missed another birthday again 23:48 again when, you know, I get in the car with her 23:51 I'm like, you know, take me here 23:54 or wherever I'm like where are your rap CDs at? 23:56 and then, you know, she just went terribly-- 23:58 So literally everything starts changing? 23:59 Everything disappeared she wasn't telling me 24:01 nothing at first. Yeah. 24:02 And then, you know, she was telling she is going to church 24:04 and then, you know, she just came out and told me, 24:07 that she was giving her life to Christ. 24:08 She got baptized and even when I-- 24:10 What were you thinking? I'm like, what? 24:12 Yeah, it was crazy to me. 24:14 I'm like, you know, it was weird to me even when, 24:17 even--I remember the day she got baptized. 24:20 Me and one of her friend came 24:22 and, you know, I didn't really look at it-- 24:25 like it was a big deal. 24:27 You know, I was still hustling and I remember 24:29 that day like it was yesterday, I didn't, you know, 24:32 you don't get no type of-- you can't really trust nobody, 24:38 you know, when you living that lifestyle. 24:39 So she had invited me to the baptism. 24:42 And you know, I had heroin on me 24:46 and weed and marijuana and all type of drugs-- 24:49 And with no weapons, right? 24:51 Yeah, no weapons, all type of drugs 24:52 and I'm like I can't leave it here. 24:54 I brought it to the church with me-- 24:56 You can't leave it behind 24:57 somebody is going to steal it. 24:59 And she got baptized and you know, all list up from in 25:01 and you know, we're in the church 25:02 we cracking up looking at her in the baptism pool. 25:05 Me and her friend we just-- They laughing and-- 25:07 We're laughing so hard and, you know, but that's I was-- 25:10 And you knew this was the right thing for you. 25:13 You knew that I'm following God in here. 25:16 'Cause yeah the Lord had just, 25:18 you know, helped us in so many ways 25:20 and I was just feeling the Holy Spirit 25:22 and I felt it was time. It was time that-- 25:25 And they're all laughing at you. Yes. 25:28 So now what made you, 25:31 'cause I know that that started at least-- 25:33 planted a seed in your life. 25:35 That, you know, what's up and what is she doing? 25:40 So, you know, we looking at baptism pool 25:42 and we laughing, but, you know, me and her friend 25:45 we actually had a conversation like that's gonna be us 25:47 in a minute, you know what I'm saying. 25:48 So I kind of knew even though it was still funny 25:50 I didn't know what I had to, you know, sacrifice or whatever, 25:53 but I knew a change is gonna have to come. 25:56 So we laughed and then, 25:57 you know, we saw her get baptized 25:59 and, you know, it was back to the same life. 26:02 But, you know, she'd come around 26:03 and she would be giving me these small Bible studies just, 26:06 you know, just sneaking to me. 26:08 She would be sneaking to me and coming over to my house-- 26:09 And I love when you say she'd be sneaking to me. 26:11 And that's like and I could see you as 26:13 at any opportunity you could just kind of 26:15 put a few words in, have this, take this-- 26:18 Any little thing and I'm like every little thing 26:20 she used say I used to soak it up, 26:22 I didn't too much understand it, but I use to take it in. 26:26 Well, I got remember she came over to my house one time 26:28 and she was talking about she was hungry. 26:30 So I'm like, I didn't have no food in the house. 26:32 So I'm like okay, just wait a minute 26:33 I'm sell these couple of packs 26:34 and I'm gonna make some-- get us someting to eat. 26:36 I know, you know what, that's all right, 26:37 if you got to do that don't do that. 26:40 I'm like, is it that serious? 26:41 I'm gonna sell some drugs, I'm gonna do all this. 26:43 And she's like no, no hold on, hold on, hold on-- 26:45 Well, she is like, if you got to do that don't worry about it 26:47 I'll just eat later on. 26:48 I'm like, is it that serious 26:50 that she don't even want to take my drug money? 26:51 That's how I'm looking at it. 26:52 So she just give me Bible study and-- 26:54 I just want to kiss you on the face for that, 26:55 'cause, you know, I just got to say for a lot of us, 26:57 when we do those changes 26:59 everybody around does thinks we're crazy. 27:01 Everybody around is gonna judge us 27:03 especially when you're in those kind of environments 27:06 and for someone to stand up anyway 27:08 and say, I can't even take your money anymore, 27:10 'cause I really feel 27:12 that God is just saying don't do it, eat later. 27:15 You know, and it's such a risk, 27:18 but it's so important to go with your heart on that, 27:21 go with the Holy Spirit on that. 27:23 Man, Po, I am proud of you. 27:25 It was funny I try to stand by myself 27:27 she would trying to tell me about the Sabbath 27:29 and I remember trying-- 27:30 I remember trying to keep the Sabbath 27:32 at my house by myself and nobody knew what the Sabbath was. 27:35 So I call her and I say, I'm number one, 27:38 it was Saturday night and I'm like, man I'm in house 27:41 and its like it's a Sabbath right. 27:42 She like, no, you know, the Sabbath has ended. 27:44 I was like, it did. 27:45 She was like yeah, from Friday, Sunday, Saturday, Sunday. 27:47 Then I'm like, okay, then I was like I'm going to the bar, 27:49 so I went to the bar I'm like the Sabbath-- 27:52 you know what I'm saying. 27:53 So I was in the bar 27:55 and I was trying not to drink in the bar and... 27:57 You know, it's really-- I wish we had more time, 27:59 because I'd love the way God moves us from even, 28:03 you know, going and selling and doing drugs 28:05 and looking at people baptized and trying to do the Sabbath 28:08 and not do the Sabbath and all that kind of stuff. 28:10 We're gonna have you back, 28:12 but I'm gonna take a break right now. 28:14 We're gonna come back for the close of the program. 28:17 Will, you guys, join me for the close? 28:18 Yeah. Awesome. 28:19 So we'll be right back, stay with us. |
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