Participants: Cheri Peters (Host), Jim Attikson
Series Code: CLR
Program Code: CLR000121A
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00:01 The following program discusses sensitive issues
00:03 related to addicted behavior. 00:05 Parents are cautioned that some material 00:06 may be too candid for younger children. 00:11 Welcome to Celebrating Life and Recovery, 00:13 I'm Cheri your host. 00:14 Have you ever been in a place 00:16 where even your next breath is painful 00:18 and you just don't want to do it, 00:19 I don't want to be here? 00:21 Our guest is gonna talk about that 00:22 in how he found hope in God. 00:24 It was amazing story. 00:25 Come join us in the cafe. 00:56 Welcome. 00:57 You know this whole season we are talking about 00:59 CELEBRATIONS as an acronym and the health message, 01:02 and how to maintain in recovery. 01:04 We've covered a lot of stuff. 01:05 We covered choices, 01:08 it's important that choices you make. 01:09 We have covered exercise. 01:11 We have covered a ton of things 01:12 and it's easy to tie some of those 01:14 into the testimony's for the day. 01:16 This one was not as easy. 01:18 We gonna talk about nutrition and of course everybody. 01:21 I mean, I'm not your mom, 01:22 everybody knows you have to eat right. 01:24 When I was on the streets, 01:25 I present 10 years on the streets, 01:27 13 to 23 my favorite meal was Hostess Twinkies 01:30 with some butter on it, hot from the oven 01:33 and I would just eat that and then do drugs for days. 01:35 So I had no nutrition on all kind of drugs, 01:38 no sleeping I was crazy. 01:40 So come out of all that 01:42 and I end up at a vegan vegetarians house, 01:46 going to withdraws and trying to figure out man, 01:49 how I'm gonna do this? 01:51 And I remember going into the kitchen 01:52 and I have told this story before going in to the kitchen 01:55 and asking do you have some coffee? 01:57 Do have some tea? 01:58 Do have anything because I'm dying 02:00 and I'm like withdrawing from everything. 02:01 And she is like I'm vegan vegetarian, 02:03 would you like some lentils? 02:05 I'm like stop, I don't want lentils. 02:07 I want chocolate, I want Dr Pepper, 02:09 I want some coffee. 02:11 And she was really gracious in teaching me 02:14 that everything I put in body matters 02:16 that even artichokes are gonna detox my liver. 02:18 Who would have guessed it? 02:19 I mean, shut up on that. 02:21 You know, black walnuts are gonna 02:22 increase my serotonin levels, 02:25 that if I have blueberries and those kind things 02:28 I'm really gonna help body to detox and all that stuff. 02:31 So nutrition is important but you know what I read 02:34 in John 6:35 as Jesus said 02:38 "I'm the bread of life, he who comes to me 02:41 will never be hungry and he who believes in Me 02:43 and please to and trust in and relies on me 02:47 me will never thirst anymore at any time." 02:50 So what did He mean by that? 02:52 That He is the bread of life. 02:53 And so what I think that 02:55 what God is trying to say is that 02:56 you really have to know who I'm, 02:58 and to know what I say. 02:59 You have to know what you believe in, 03:02 what you gonna spiritually hold on to in your recovery. 03:05 And so I was over, I just got to say was over 03:08 at Allan Lindsay house, 03:09 I don't know if anybody knows him. 03:11 But he was a host for program called Keepers of the Flame, 03:16 and if I get star struck, I get star struck by Allan. 03:19 If you're watching you know that I just love you 03:21 and your wife, but I just love him. 03:23 So I'm now at his house, 03:24 he is an incredible scholar as far as the Bible 03:27 and prophecy and all kind of stuff. 03:29 And I'm gonna study the investigative judgment. 03:31 What is God, when He looks at us 03:33 and He starts looking at our record, what is He look at? 03:36 Because I don't want to go look at my record. 03:38 You know, I'm not-- I'm not good 03:39 and I never have been good and you know I on the streets, 03:43 I lied, manipulated, I could play anybody, 03:45 I was around all kinds of stuff, I was a drug dealer. 03:48 I mean all of that kind of stuff. 03:49 So I don't want Him to look at my record 03:51 but I want to know what does He look at? 03:53 And so I said Allan, I'm gonna study that judgment 03:56 and the end time stuff. 03:58 And he said before you do that I want you to read the story. 04:01 And I thought what story is that? 04:03 And he said I want you to read the story about Joshua. 04:06 And for people that know this particular writer 04:08 and the fifth testimony is the story about Joshua. 04:11 And Joshua was comes to plead for their folks around him 04:16 and he literally comes and he stand in there 04:18 and he is pleading for you know, 04:21 folks that have rebelled in there, 04:22 they were just a mess and so he is pleading for them 04:25 and all of the sudden saint walks up. 04:27 And just picture this and I don't want you to picture 04:30 this kind of cheesy I want you to picture this 04:32 as if you are in the street. 04:33 Saint walks up and he looks at Joshua 04:35 and he says you know, what? 04:37 You kicked me out of heaven for him? 04:39 Are you kidding me? 04:41 You gonna-- you going to let him in 04:44 and keep me out? 04:45 You can't do that. 04:46 You know what, and he started naming 04:48 of every single thing that Joshua did, 04:51 his character defects, the things that he does, 04:53 the fact that he never, 04:54 you know, I don't know about you 04:56 but I don't know if I make it through 24 hours 04:58 without having something that I say I'm sorry for. 05:00 But the saint starts naming of those things. 05:03 Not just little things that we trip over, 05:05 our very character is in question 05:07 and he just going down, 05:09 scrolls out stuff and for each of us he can say, 05:13 he can talk for 24 hours may be 24 years 05:16 and never went out of things 05:17 that he can accuse us with and it's all true. 05:20 And so Joshua was getting more and more in despair, 05:23 more and more trash. 05:25 You know, how could I-- how could I answer this? 05:28 How could I come against this? 05:30 And he says Christ turn around and looks at Joshua 05:33 and just kind of silenced him. 05:36 I died for him, I have covered him 05:39 and he walks up and gently says to Joshua, 05:42 can I take your filthy garment out and cloth you. 05:46 And I just wept when I read that 05:47 because I think you know, 05:48 all of us walk around with filthy garments, 05:51 all of us walk around with addictive lean 05:54 of once sort or another. 05:55 Some of us are obvious heroin addicts 05:57 and all kind of stuff. 05:58 Some people are anger, some people are sex addicts, 06:00 some people are workaholics, 06:02 some people are religious addicts 06:03 and they just trash you religiously. 06:05 We all have something. 06:07 You know, some people spendaholic 06:08 and I know you are out there. 06:10 You know, we have all that stuff. 06:12 And so what, what God says is, 06:14 I know all of that, so I gonna-- 06:16 I gonna ahead and forgive your sins, 06:19 take them-- take them on myself 06:21 and literally take your garments off 06:23 give you clean stuff to wear and you are forgiven. 06:26 But you know what, it doesn't do any good 06:29 for God to say that to us for Him to promise that to us, 06:32 for Him to write it up in the book 06:34 if we never open the book and read it. 06:35 So Jesus says I'm the bread of life. 06:38 Don't, don't be ignorant, know what this word says. 06:41 When the enemy comes against you, 06:43 you have to know where you gonna hold on to. 06:45 When your addictions lie to you, 06:46 when you lie to yourself you know. 06:48 Like I for a long time just triggered, 06:51 I don't why I triggered, 06:52 I think that the more I got in to recovery 06:54 and the more I realized the things 06:56 that my family were going through 06:58 and I had told all kind of stuff about my, 07:00 my take on what they did 07:02 as I was growing up not realizing that 07:04 they had their own struggles and their own damage. 07:07 When I started seeing that 07:08 and I started to really want to repent. 07:11 You know, my mom had me when she was very young, 07:14 had of five kids when she was very young. 07:16 My dad was a molester, 07:17 we had all kinds of stuff in our home, 07:20 and I'm telling all that stuff it about not be in love. 07:23 And then all the sudden God shows me that, 07:25 my mom was never really cared for, 07:27 she was given up when she was young. 07:29 She had all that stuff and so I want to repent 07:31 and I want to say to some body you know what, 07:33 may be how I saw things were not how they were. 07:37 And I started to feel that 07:38 and you know what the devil said to me, 07:40 you're just a liar. 07:42 Are you kidding me? 07:43 You have always just wanted 07:44 and he just started taunting me at that 07:47 and I thought you know if I'm? 07:49 What if this the truth? 07:50 What if I did just, you know, I just what if? 07:53 What if? What if? 07:54 It almost drove me to despair. 07:56 It almost drove me 07:57 to where I just wanted to quit everything. 07:59 I wanted to sit down, 08:00 I have the no way to stand up and say anything. 08:03 And finally the Holy Sprit gets through 08:05 and says that's not true. 08:06 This is what happens as I grow you. 08:08 You're gonna have more compassion 08:10 on the people around you. 08:11 You're gonna be able to forgive them 08:12 because you see from their point of view. 08:14 That's what the gospel is, that's what recovery is. 08:17 So don't let the enemy taunt you. 08:18 I have died for all of that 08:20 other stuff that you are dealing with. 08:21 All of the stuff that He is gonna 08:23 come against you with I have died for that, 08:25 I want to put clean cloths on you, 08:27 fresh linen on you, 08:28 I want to put you in the robe of righteousness 08:30 and I want to stand you up 08:31 tall and strong daily in your recovery, 08:35 but you have to know what the Bible says 08:36 this you will never get through this journey. 08:39 So right now as we look our nutrition, 08:42 I'm gonna say just like your momma would say, eat right. 08:46 You know, could the house just drink is away. 08:48 All that kind of stuff, grab an apple, 08:50 drink some water, every thing that's logical 08:52 but I'm also gonna tell you that God 08:55 Jesus is a bread of life 08:57 that you cannot do recovery at the death 08:59 that you want to do recovery, 09:01 if you don't know what the Word of God says. 09:02 You got to get yourself a Bible, 09:04 if you have a Bible dust it off. 09:07 Open it up because there's sayings in there 09:10 that if you knew them, if you knew what God said like, 09:13 you know even in Galatians 09:14 is an incredible thing that it says, 09:17 you know, with somebody that then comes to God 09:19 and they are so thrilled, they know that, 09:21 you know, like when I came to God as a heroin addict, 09:23 teeth missing, strung out, illiterate, 09:27 I come to God and I know that He says 09:29 are you a lovely to me, I delight in you, 09:31 He-- I think showed me 09:33 who I was the day after resurrection. 09:35 Let me show you who you are, 09:37 not who I'm the day after I stop heroin 09:39 but who am I the day after resurrection? 09:41 That's incredible and then 09:43 and then I started to believe the enemy 09:45 and I started to strive to be good enough 09:48 for that kind of love which will kill me 09:50 because I'll never be good enough. 09:51 I have to rely on the Christ-- 09:53 on the promise that God is good enough, 09:55 that Jesus is good enough and that He is covered me. 09:58 But I start relying on my own stuff, 10:00 I start striving to be better, 10:01 I start trying to do the right thing 10:03 and not to lie and not to manipulate 10:05 and not to be all that 10:06 and then pretty soon I'm just in despair 10:08 and even Paul walks up to the Galatians 10:10 and said who be witched you? 10:12 Who lied to you? 10:14 This was never about what you can do, 10:15 this is about what God has all ready done. 10:17 And if I don't know that from Word of God 10:19 I'm gonna through everything away in my recovery. 10:22 So I want you to know on this particular program 10:24 I want to introduce you to someone 10:26 that was really driven to despair beyond 10:28 what you can imagine 10:30 and God grabbed him and plucked him out. 10:33 Out of all that and brought him back to life. 10:35 So we're gonna talk about that, 10:36 but for you right now, you have to know that, 10:38 what you eat is important 10:40 and that Jesus is a bread of life. 10:42 What you know about, what the word says 10:44 we will keep you in recovery. 10:46 You got to open the book. 10:47 We will be right back, stay with us. |
Revised 2015-01-29