Participants: Cheri Peters (Host), CA Murray
Series Code: CLR
Program Code: CLR000123A
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00:01 The following program discusses sensitive issues
00:03 related to addictive behavior. 00:05 Parents are cautioned that some material 00:07 may be too candid for younger children. 00:11 I cannot believe it is 10 years, 00:13 Celebrating Life in Recovery, and we are still standing. 00:16 We're still here. 00:17 Do you have any idea how many lives, 00:19 how many stories we've highlighted in these 10 years 00:21 that we've been doing this program. 00:23 No, but those very people are changing lives, 00:25 it's amazing. 00:27 Come and join us in the café, 00:28 I can't wait to share this season with you, 00:31 it's so fun. 01:02 Hello, and welcome to Celebrating Life in Recovery. 01:04 My name is C.A. Murray 01:05 and I'm in the presence of the lovely 01:08 and talented Cheri Peters, 01:10 and I like to tease her, 01:11 because she's most lovely and talented. 01:12 And this show always 01:15 bespeaks a new season that is beginning, 01:18 and, Cheri, I'm told this is our 01:19 tenth sitting together, 01:21 we're in season number 10, 01:22 can you believe that we've done this 10 times 01:24 that you've been there for 10 years of programs. 01:29 Ten years of programs and every single time 01:32 we start to put it together. 01:34 I realize that this group that we have 01:37 the people that who we're gonna, 01:38 that we're gonna interview are so rich 01:40 and they are dealing with such intense issues 01:43 and I forget it's a program again, 01:44 I'm thinking this is ministry, heck with the program... 01:47 I tell them don't pay attention to any of these cameras, 01:50 let God take you this next step. 01:52 And so it's really exciting 01:54 that I still don't look at it as just another program. 01:58 Yeah and it is not just a little program, 02:00 it is by default we're producing content, 02:03 we're producing television programs for this network, 02:06 but it is active ongoing ministry 02:09 and you know, I have a thing called 02:11 objective camera, subjective camera. 02:13 Subjective camera is a camera just kind of sits there 02:16 and like it's peeking in on something that's going on... 02:19 And that's what this program is kind of, 02:20 something is happening and we get to look in and see 02:23 what is happening and enjoy what is happening 02:25 and be enriched and encouraged by what is happening. 02:28 And I love that. Yeah. 02:29 You know, and when you talk about content, 02:31 this is first year we're doing some changes and they are huge. 02:36 There you changes in that there in between 02:40 seasons people call so 02:42 or sometimes even come and stay at a week at a ranch, 02:46 do some pretty heavy issues that we go to churches 02:49 and camp meetings and prisons and all that kind of stuff, 02:51 and work with, you know, 02:54 anger and addiction and eating disorders 02:57 and workaholism, and religious addiction, 02:59 we work with all of that stuff, 03:01 but I thought you know what, 03:02 how can we do that for somebody that is looking on 03:05 and says I just need more. 03:08 I heard what the guest said 03:09 I get what you're saying but I need more, 03:11 so we're starting our own studio 03:15 so that we're not having to fly here every single time, 03:17 but our own studio at the ranch, 03:19 smaller studio that we could drop content online, 03:23 so if you go to our website, 03:25 you could actually find things that will help you 03:28 through the week or through your month 03:30 just to get your own legs underneath you. 03:32 Yeah. Yeah. 03:34 Because I believe for all of us, 03:36 all of us are so uniquely gifted 03:39 and when we get that and we get some tools, 03:41 we'll change the world. 03:42 And so we're just gonna drop content 03:44 and we're gonna start to mentor people in a different way, 03:47 and if there is anything that you want us to cover 03:50 just send us an email. 03:53 You know, I do love that idea and as I said you before, 03:56 it is the natural evolution of what you do here. 04:00 For two reasons, one you can't cover 04:03 everything in one hour 04:04 and you have several guests, 04:06 so sometimes it's in 30 minutes or even less, 04:08 so questions may arise and people are saying, 04:12 okay, I see that, but I got some questions 04:14 I need some more stuff, then I got place to go, 04:17 and two, 04:21 you may be called or you may know someone 04:24 who's in a similar situation 04:26 and you need some help knowing what to say 04:28 and how to approach it 04:29 because a lot of people we talked about this, 04:31 a lot of people really want to mentor, 04:33 want to help, want to do what they can, 04:34 they don't know what to say... 04:36 Absolutely. 04:37 They don't know what to do, 04:38 they don't know how to deal with that particular experience 04:41 and rather than going and say the wrong thing, 04:43 they say nothing, 04:44 so now I got some place to go to get 04:46 some stuff that will help me, 04:47 in case I want to help somebody with his problem. 04:49 And what I love 'cause I've thought about 04:51 how can we do that the best, 04:53 so not only are we gonna drop the content and saying, 04:56 you know, here's 15, 20 minutes, 04:57 30 minutes on this, 04:59 and we'd try to keep it short 05:00 'cause, you know, people don't want to stay online all day 05:03 but here are some short things 05:05 and then right underneath that, 05:07 we'll say, if you have a question 05:08 you want us to go further, let me know what you need. 05:11 Yeah. Yeah. 05:13 And then we'll, I'll grab somebody like, 05:14 you know, C.A, I don't want to, 05:17 you know, that I love you 05:18 and you have some brilliant teachings 05:20 and you have some brilliant stuff, 05:21 so if somebody needed, you know, 05:24 some insight from a man's point of view on this issue, 05:28 instead of me trying to figure out 05:30 what do I think about that, 05:32 I'll grab someone that I know and love. 05:34 So you know, here's some content, 05:36 ask questions, what do you need 05:37 and we'll drop it on. 05:39 This season I want to tell you 05:40 what we're covering this season, 05:42 every season we go through a book. 05:44 A friend of mine, he passed not long ago 05:47 which I'm really sad about, 05:49 but he wrote a book called Victory in Jesus. 05:51 And what I love about this book is Bill ended up 05:54 putting some things in this book 05:56 I was just talking about what is grace, 05:59 what is about salvation, what did God do, 06:03 what sought of response to that and he's so brilliant, 06:07 so the whole season 06:08 we're gonna go through a teaching on this, 06:11 so at the end of the season you say, 06:13 you know what, I want the book, get it, 06:15 it's a brilliant teaching, but I also have 06:18 because I wanted to for people that don't really 06:22 learn in the same way is I brought a book 06:25 about just different aspects of who God is in stories. 06:29 Same kind of teaching but it's in stories. 06:32 So this season we got, God is Crazy 06:34 about You available, 06:35 Victory in Jesus available, 06:37 and anything that you send us 06:41 helps us to do this content things, 06:43 so if you don't want the book just send us cash. 06:47 So I'm just saying, 06:49 but any so we're looking at Victory in Jesus, 06:52 we're looking at Grace, 06:54 and we even before I want to start showing 06:57 some of the Romans that we did is Victory in Jesus, 07:00 what is Grace, as we start out with Romans 07:04 to forward says, you know, 07:06 God is so amazingly patient with us 07:09 and gracious with us. 07:11 From the child molester to the drug addict, 07:14 to the preacher that is angry 07:18 or husband there're just addictions, 07:20 I mean He's so gracious with all of us, 07:22 and in Romans it says 07:24 are you angry that He is so gracious. 07:27 He is gracious 'cause that leads us to healing, 07:30 leads us to Himself, 07:31 so we're gonna start this whole season with that concept, 07:35 is God will lead us home 07:37 if we just say every day I surrender. 07:41 Praise the Lord. 07:42 I'm impressed that several years ago 07:44 you began to peg each series to particular book, 07:48 which became like the muse for that particular season 07:51 and of course these are two good ones, 07:53 but it also gives the person 07:56 who is watching who wants to get some foundation, 07:59 some place to go and some place to start from 08:01 and it does give a context for the whole series, 08:04 so these are two great books. 08:05 I have not had the privilege of reading this, 08:07 I have to get this and read it. 08:11 I think this is the really cool cover, 08:12 I just, I like the cover, yeah. 08:13 The God is Crazy about You. 08:15 Yeah, God is Crazy about You. 08:16 And I buy books because of titles, 08:18 just see and I'll see a book, 08:19 oh, I like that title, I'm gonna buy and read it. 08:21 I will buy this and read God is Crazy about You. 08:22 Yeah, I'll read that. 08:24 Oh, he's willing to meet even in the writing of this book 08:27 is when I was saved. 08:28 I really got the fact 08:30 that God was crazy about me, I got it. 08:33 I mean, I felt like he was kissing me 08:35 on the face everyday, 08:36 couldn't wait till I got up, to show me something new. 08:39 I felt like for the first time I have a family 08:42 that absolutely delights in me and adores me 08:45 and in the midst of my craziness 08:48 there's hope and there's a direction... 08:50 And but what was really crazy as every time I went out, 08:53 I would watch God do something brilliant for someone else 08:58 and everything would be set up 09:00 and I'm thinking is he doing this for everybody. 09:04 How far is that? 09:06 You know, one little girl left at Alaska, 09:09 she's in the middle of nowhere... 09:11 Read Miracle from the Street which was our first book 09:14 and all she did, she was, had been molested, 09:16 her family are drug addict, 09:18 she has had people die of alcoholism 09:20 and she just said someday I'd like to meet her, right. 09:23 And all of a sudden I get a call 16 gigs in Alaska 09:27 and all I end up on this island 09:30 in front of this kid and I think, 09:32 it was the whole event about her. 09:35 And so the aspect of God saying that, 09:37 you know, what I promise you don't look around 09:40 at all of the big things that are happening, 09:42 I care about you, I'm in your life, 09:45 I'll move things for you 09:46 and devil will scream that's not true 09:49 and we have to really stop listening to the enemy 09:52 and start saying God, are you here right now? 09:56 Do you see me right now and when he says, yes, 09:58 it is so sweet, 10:00 so... 10:01 You use an expression, 10:03 I think no one else on planet earth 10:04 could use this and get away with it. 10:07 But it has become such a part of who you are... 10:12 I feel like kissing God on the face, 10:14 it is such a, 10:16 when you get the mental picture of where that is coming from, 10:19 it is so sweet and so genuine 10:21 and so, Cheri, I just, I really love that, yeah. 10:24 I think that even growing up in abuse home that I... 10:28 at times even as a little girl I thought, 10:31 I wish somebody would even touch my face, 10:34 would even, you know, 10:36 you see that kind of a mother kissing a child 10:39 or a child kissing a mother, I never got that. 10:42 And so to me when all of a sudden 10:43 I just felt God saying that you know, 10:46 there's gonna be a day 10:47 that I will kiss you all of your face. 10:49 That I love you, and I think it's so sweet 10:53 that God knows our injuries and speaks right to them. 10:56 He speaks indeed. Yeah. 10:58 Indeed, yeah. 10:59 So that's what, that is the genesis of that 11:01 and it's a beautiful story, 11:03 and it's a nice way to relate to God 11:05 and to see God relating to you, He really is. 11:08 Yeah, He truly is my father, He truly is my friend. 11:11 And you know, when the first time 11:14 I don't know why but the first time 11:16 He told me a joke, I could not stop laughing 11:19 and I thought did you just tell me a joke, 11:21 and everybody is like God doesn't tell you a joke, 11:24 that's not true, if you ask Him, 11:26 by the end of the day He will tell you a joke 11:28 and I want you to email what it was. 11:30 It's just crazy 11:32 that we have a feeling that God is only this. 11:34 Yes. 11:36 And God says if I was only that, 11:37 I couldn't get you home. 11:39 Precisely. I'm everything to you. 11:40 Ultra-relational. 11:41 Yeah, very much so. 11:43 And he gives it to you in the, 11:45 the way that you can digest it and accept it 11:48 and let become part of you, 11:50 so we've got some good stuff that you do, do we not? 11:51 It's so amazing. Yeah. 11:53 Let show the first time roll in I want to show you 11:56 who's coming on, a friend of mine 11:59 was a mess and she was little. 12:01 I've known her for probably 12, 13 years 12:04 and her husband was convicted of being a perpetrator, 12:11 child molester when he was 18 in high school. 12:16 He turned 18, he still has a same girlfriend 12:19 the day after his 18th birthday 12:21 they actually say you need to register 12:23 for the rest of your life, 12:24 and he's been registered as a convicted sex offender 12:28 since that time and wanting to scream at somebody, 12:31 you know, what I didn't do it and the story is so sad 12:35 but so incredible watching this family healed. 12:40 The other couple on this roll in 12:44 is some friends of mine that I love, 12:47 Stacy and Erin and they when I met them, 12:51 they own five strip clubs, 12:52 they were very, very well to do 12:55 as far as moneys that come in this industry. 12:58 But you know, 12:59 something happened and God stepped in... 13:01 And it's like how you know, 13:03 even when somebody says what do you do for a living, 13:05 and you're trying to figure out who you are spiritually 13:08 and you have to answer I own the strip clubs in town. 13:11 Yeah. 13:12 And it really waxed him 13:14 like how do I do this transition, 13:16 and how do I walk away from everything 13:18 I know his family 13:19 generationally has own these clubs. 13:21 His brothers, he was raised there, 13:23 all of that stuff. 13:25 And Stacy, his wife was a stripper 13:28 and that's what she knew 13:29 and so now this family allows God 13:34 to show them actually who they are in Christ 13:36 and most of us want to throw people like that away. 13:39 And that's what that was coming to my mind, 13:41 yeah, yeah, we just... 13:42 first all we think they're beyond hope, 13:44 they'll never, there is nothing we can say, 13:46 nothing we can do to reach them 13:47 so we just back away from them. 13:49 And even if I could reach them, they should pay. 13:53 Yeah. Yeah. 13:54 They should pay. Yes, yes, yes. 13:55 They erect this whole town. Right. 13:57 Right, yeah. And God said I pay it. 13:59 Jesus said I pay it. Amen. 14:00 And it's such a cool thing that we have to get over, 14:03 that none of us could pay. 14:05 My dad when I came to God was too big. 14:08 So I'm gonna have you watch this roll in 14:09 and know that we can't pay. 14:11 Right. 14:12 We don't have enough. 14:17 So to study even... 14:20 I was on parole after I got out of prison. 14:22 I was on parole for three years which, 14:24 it was a very hard parole years for sex offender... 14:28 It's impossible. 14:29 Yeah, they want you to fail. 14:31 I can't go to parks, I can't do anything. 14:34 But anyway Rayne gets pregnant in a term of parole 14:37 I said about this and she says you can't be around your kid 14:40 until if you take this class for sex offenders. 14:43 Now I was in prison and I have to take this class, 14:45 but I'm on parole I got to take it, 14:48 so for me even be around my own son, 14:51 I got to take this sex offender class 14:53 and so I do it. 14:55 Do whatever I got to be around my son. 14:58 About that time my grandmother 15:00 was getting out of the penitentiary 15:01 she had served her time, 15:03 she got out early actually 15:05 so I guess she didn't served all of her time. 15:08 And she heard about the living conditions 15:12 being so poor and send my uncle for me 15:17 because she was gonna be released and she, 15:20 we're gonna... 15:21 So your bags are packed again. 15:22 Well, if I had any bags 15:24 I would have packed and may have put what 15:26 few things I had into a garbage bag 15:28 and put in my locker at school. 15:31 And my uncle was late picking me up, 15:33 he got stuck in traffic, 15:35 the plan was for him to come and get me 15:38 and then they were gonna rescue me 15:40 and take me back to my grandmother 15:42 and he was late coming in 15:46 and so I just had to walk home, 15:49 and I got beat so severely that day 15:54 and not by my mother, 15:55 but by her boyfriend at the time 15:58 with an extension cord and it was just awful. 16:02 I had woke up one morning and I had just had it. 16:06 And I went and sat down in the shower, 16:10 I turn the lights off and everything 16:11 and I was literally just breaking down 16:15 and I was really letting God have it 16:18 and just that I upheld my end of the deal, 16:20 where are you and very, very colorfully 16:23 letting him know that I wasn't impressed. 16:25 Right. 16:26 And but as it continued 16:30 I remember literally just throwing my hands out 16:32 and tell him you do it. 16:34 Little more colorfully than that 16:35 but literally those words you do it. 16:38 So I got myself together and I got under the shower 16:41 and I just went on with my morning like I normally would 16:43 and went down and turn the computer on 16:45 and there were three mails, 16:48 I don't remember what the other two were, 16:50 but part of the conversation with God 16:55 was that I wanted him to make it 16:56 very obvious I mean like... 16:58 The direction. Right. 16:59 Like what do you want me to do... 17:01 A big white board with bright letters 17:03 so I don't get this wrong 17:05 'cause apparently I'm not doing this right. 17:06 And I found that was the problem, 17:10 I'm not doing this right. 17:12 Well, you know, one of the things that 17:16 we did years ago sitting and writing this, 17:18 I remember you and I made a pact 17:20 that we would not be shocked 17:22 anymore by anything that happened, 17:23 you know, this kind of stories 17:27 says a number of things, Cherri. 17:28 One, no one is too far gone. Amen. 17:31 No one is too hardcore, 17:33 no one is so resistant 17:37 that a spirit of God cannot break down and change lives. 17:40 Two, there is nothing that we can do that shocks the Lord, 17:44 you know, or that makes him recoil from us. 17:48 This industry has destroyed a lot of lives 17:53 and done a lot of stuff, 17:56 but God can reach in that industry 17:58 and pull brands from the fire just like He can by himself. 18:01 And that's what so exciting about what you do 18:04 and this kind of story 18:06 because if God can get in here and change this, 18:08 then there is nobody too far gone for the Lord. 18:10 What's really interesting to me about all three of these 18:13 'cause, you know, Adam comes, 18:16 he comes drunk and still in his mess 18:20 and on a program I remember looking at him and saying 18:24 how does it feel convicted sex offender 18:27 and you have to do that for 25 years, 18:29 and you were just with your girlfriend in high school. 18:32 And he said, you know, I just think, you know, 18:35 I get by one day at a time 18:37 and I'm thinking how about if you stop doing that with me, 18:40 how does it really feel, 18:41 I don't want to hear that stuff, 18:43 I don't want to hear what you tell your parole officer 18:45 and finally he said it feels horrible, 18:47 I'm so angry, I hate everybody 18:50 and I have to drink to survive. 18:52 And when he said that, I finally got it, 18:54 God has to get through somebody that says 18:56 I'm at my at the end of everything 18:59 and even when you get into some places 19:01 for the God himself to reach in 19:05 and pull one of his kids out in the midst of this darkness, 19:09 it is a miracle. It is a miracle. 19:10 It is a miracle indeed. 19:12 And so to me I love that, 19:14 it's truly tough when we start judging one another 19:17 'cause God says don't not even the angels are judging. 19:20 No one's judging right now, we're just trying to redeem, 19:22 we're just trying to get them home. 19:24 Yeah, and that's what so powerful 19:25 about this whole deal, 19:26 because you get a guy, you know, 19:28 he's not checking passports or checking driver's license 19:30 or carding anybody, 19:32 he was with his girlfriend 19:33 and now for the rest of your life because of an act, 19:38 a series of acts you get this label, 19:40 you get this, 19:41 you're put in this category that you know, 19:45 it defines a lot of who you are 19:48 and it certainly defines 19:50 how a lot of people think about you, 19:51 so now it's gonna be the Lord 19:53 and people like you will help me 19:55 think differently about myself, 19:56 'cause the world has kind of toss me away, you know. 19:58 Exactly. 19:59 Yeah, and I'm not that, 20:01 I'm much more than that. 20:02 So to me I think that 20:04 it's really interesting to me is 20:07 what is God doing to redeem people. 20:10 And so I was really glad to show 20:12 that I'm hoping that I didn't offend anyone, 20:15 because I love these guys 20:17 and I feel like there's nobody out of the reach of God. 20:20 There's nobody that grace can't change. 20:23 There's nobody that God can say, 20:24 let me change out your filthy garments 20:26 and nobody is innocent. 20:28 You know, and I would love to say, 20:31 no, no, no, I'm innocent, I was framed. 20:32 You know all of that stuff, 20:34 and God said there is nobody innocent, 20:36 that's why Jesus died, and he did it all. 20:40 He did it all. 20:41 We got to get that, surrender that 20:43 and let it change us. 20:45 So the next roll in I'd like to introduce is 20:48 Verism Barker is a writer 20:50 and she loves to work with many at risk women. 20:54 She puts them to work, blesses their lives, 20:57 steps into their lives all of that kind of stuff 20:59 but she had her own struggles and won my heart, 21:02 she's trying to call me to see 21:04 if I would interview an at risk girl named Connie, 21:07 but her story changed me. 21:10 Well, the fact that for a lot of us, 21:13 we don't slow down to mentor 21:15 and to reaching to each other's lives 21:17 and when we do, it changes us 21:19 and it definitely changes them. 21:20 And so you got Verism, you know, 21:23 I think on this rolling you're gonna see Connie. 21:26 Connie is, you know, a mess, her family was a mess. 21:29 She's been abused her whole life 21:31 and then jumped into her addiction. 21:33 And then a friend of mine, I love this guy, 21:37 and Nico, if you're watching 21:38 I just have to say I love him, 21:40 number one cage fighter in the world in 1999, 21:44 got so twisted, and he said at one point, 21:47 I would not tap out. 21:49 I'm in it for the long run, you know. 21:51 We're gonna... 21:52 one of us is gonna be dead at the end of this fight. 21:54 And that was his life, so enjoy this next segment 21:58 because each of these stories are really different, 22:03 but you'll see grace. 22:05 I remember one day, 22:08 my father wanted some money to buy more jewels, 22:13 you know, so he kept after my mother, 22:15 you know, for money, money 22:16 and finally said you know what she has no more money, 22:19 why don't you leave her alone. 22:21 And of course, we got into this big fight, 22:24 but I stood up to him, 22:25 and I remember her having a nervous break down 22:29 and she went to the bedroom, 22:31 and I know we had a gun in the house, 22:33 and I went behind my mother. 22:35 She said, I can't take this anymore 22:37 and I'm gonna kill myself, 22:38 so she grab the gun and she took it to her head 22:42 and I grabbed her 22:44 and I took it, the gun from her. 22:46 And I remember hiding the gun and then stopping 22:50 and I looked in the mirror and I was shaking like this, 22:54 and I said God, I can't do this, 22:56 this is just too much for me, 22:58 so I was still living with all those anxiety, 23:01 so I would have anxiety text, 23:03 and I would try to go to job interviews 23:05 so to fill out the application you know, 23:07 I was just totally shot. 23:09 So at that point in time 23:11 is when God started to reach me through a poetry. 23:16 And if you ever see a puzzle, 23:18 you need to see the picture 23:20 in order to put that puzzle together. 23:22 It's absolutely. 23:23 Right. Yeah. 23:25 But can you imagine putting that picture together 23:27 or that puzzle together when you had no picture. 23:29 No. 23:30 So here I am in this world with nefarious dark characters, 23:34 I like to see clowns from out of town upside down 23:37 and God, the Holy Spirit, 23:40 Jesus Christ our creative Father 23:43 thought enough of his child who was broken, 23:46 who was lost, who was addicted. 23:48 To start to give him words of compassion and empathy. 23:52 You talk not to be judgmental, I mean you receive that, 23:55 you were told in the home, 23:57 and then as you grow older 23:58 and you get into societies so... 24:01 You get it. 24:02 Then you get the lessons you were being taught, 24:04 so it taught me then that, okay, 24:06 there must be a reason why year after year 24:09 people will be here they're not moving forward. 24:12 It has to be more than that, 24:13 so I need to sit back and get away from myself, 24:18 and stop thinking that I am the example. 24:21 And let me start looking at how I can give back. 24:25 What I love about 24:27 those three interviews was Verism Barker. 24:30 When I first started talking to her, 24:32 I thought she wasn't the one 24:35 that we were even thinking about, 24:36 but man, when she talked about 24:38 how she had to confront the way she looked at at-risk folks, 24:43 they way she looked at situations, 24:45 the way she talked to people when somebody said, 24:48 hey, do you have a dollar. 24:49 She said I worked my whole life, 24:51 I had two or three jobs my whole life 24:53 and gone to school and worked hard, 24:55 what do you mean, do I have a dollar, 24:57 I have a dollar 'cause I work. 24:58 And she said when she realized 25:00 the deficits that some people have with their abuses, 25:03 she said I repented 25:05 and I thought that as a mentor 25:07 she just was life changing for me 25:09 and you met a couple of these folks say. 25:11 Yeah. Yeah. 25:13 Nico you know, Nico is hard to quantify. 25:19 First of all, he is a unusual character 25:21 and he's been through so much, 25:23 and he again, his testament to the power of God 25:26 to change a life and give a person 25:30 who was abused and who abused 25:33 a ministry of reconciliation and healing. 25:37 What a neat guy. 25:38 Somebody who used to beat people up 25:39 and objectify fight people 25:41 and going and just try to murder them 25:43 basically is now trying to give them new life 25:46 and because his life is new. 25:48 And when he won his title that says 25:50 he was Nico, the dragon. 25:51 He says now I'm Nico, the dragon slayer. 25:55 And I love it is that a little motto 25:58 and all that kind of stuff and it's really fun 26:01 because somebody he found his way back partially 26:05 by watching this very program. 26:08 And how crazy is this when he calls 26:10 and he's like you know, what, 26:11 I watched you guys and it gave me hope 26:14 and I stood up, 26:16 and so we're talking about this season 26:17 going into that mentoring world. 26:19 As I get older, I realize that 26:21 I can help someone else stand up 26:24 with all other gifting, 26:25 with all other fears with that the enemy screaming 26:28 and they are not good enough. 26:30 I can say don't listen to them 26:31 because God wants to kiss you all over the face. 26:34 You know, so even somebody like that is just saying that 26:38 as they stand up it is so rich and so beautiful. 26:42 And you see what God has brought 26:43 and that's why... 26:45 If you just sort of watch this show 26:47 and then turn off the TV and go by your life, 26:50 you haven't done everything at the show 26:52 it's designed to do. 26:53 It's designed to motivate you, to encourage you, 26:56 to equip you. 26:58 And now we're moving into that in a great way 27:00 because somebody like Nico who saw this and said, 27:04 you know, he was dissatisfied with his life, 27:06 he just, but he's making money, he's doing movies, 27:09 so from outside looking in, hey, he's got it. 27:13 He's at the top of his game, 27:14 he's the number one in the world, 27:16 you know, there is a planet, 27:17 you're number one on the planet. 27:19 Then you're making movies, you're making a lot of movies, 27:20 you got lot of money. 27:22 Has his own series. 27:23 Yes, your own series, you're doing a lot do stuff 27:25 and yet there is this God size hole in you 27:27 and you know, it's not right, 27:29 but you don't how to, 27:30 where do I go, what do I do. 27:32 And one day you sit down and you watch a show, 27:33 and then light comes on, 27:35 now I know and then a few years later 27:38 you're on that show doing for others 27:41 what that show has done for you, 27:44 that sort of completes the circle, 27:45 man, it's really, really great. 27:46 Absolutely incredible. 27:48 We're gonna go ahead in break. We'll be right back 27:50 'cause you're not gonna want to miss the rest of it, 27:52 it is so amazing, 27:53 this has been an amazing season. |
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