Participants: Cheri Peters (Host), CA Murray
Series Code: CLR
Program Code: CLR000123B
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00:01 The following program discusses sensitive issues
00:03 related to addictive behavior. 00:05 Parents are cautioned that some material 00:07 may be too candid for younger children. 00:15 And we are back. 00:17 And as you can see, this is going to be a... 00:21 I don't want to say wild ride, 00:23 but, yeah, I think I'll say that. 00:24 I think I'll say wild ride. 00:26 This is going to be something 00:28 as we look into the human experience, 00:29 and what God is doing to change, 00:32 and re-arrange, and just recover, 00:35 and renew people. 00:37 Amen. Yeah. 00:38 And when you say that, to me, 00:40 it's always the most incredible thing, 00:43 I wish people could see behind the scenes, 00:45 because the healing that happens 00:47 even putting us together as you meet somebody 00:49 and you're on the road 00:51 or they come into your life in any way 00:53 and all of a sudden you watch the holy spirit, 00:55 just, do change after change after change. 00:57 Sometimes you can't even recognize folks 01:00 that their journey has been so rich. 01:03 And so, you know, as we get to do that 01:05 and as you get to see that, it is a ride. 01:07 And God is just saying that, "I promise you, 01:11 you trust me and I will do the rest." 01:14 And you know, in my journey, you know, 01:17 it's been years, I've clean 35 years, 01:20 that's ridiculous to me. 01:21 I'm now instead of looking to be mentored, 01:24 I'm looking to mentor someone else. 01:26 And then that whole world starts to change, 01:28 and God says, "Even in that world, 01:31 Cheri, don't think I'm done healing you." 01:33 We had a major, major crash, right? 01:36 Major crash. 01:37 I don't even think I'm gonna survive 01:39 and I am trying to figure out something. 01:41 And God says to me so sweetly, 01:44 "Cheri, what did I promise you when you were saved?" 01:47 And I'm thinking, what did he promise me, 01:49 'cause I think he promised me the world, 01:51 and I think everything changed, 01:53 and it was just amazing. 01:54 He said, "Nope, I promised to get you home, 01:57 I promised you the day after resurrection, 01:59 I promised you there's gonna be a day 02:02 that you're gonna look for this crazy stuff, 02:04 and this pain, 02:06 and this not working out or somebody being hurt 02:09 and you will not find them anywhere. 02:11 Every tear will be dried." 02:13 So even in this season, being able to say, 02:15 we're gonna show all this kind of journey all along the way, 02:18 but we're gonna keep bragging on God, 02:21 he promised to get us home. 02:22 He did. 02:23 And we're on our way home. He did, he did. 02:25 You know, what impressed me, 02:26 and we talk about this on another show that you know, 02:30 we talked about the camera looking 02:31 on something that's ongoing. 02:33 You've had times when you saw 02:34 a break through right here on set. 02:36 It's so fun. 02:37 And you kind of just stop the production process 02:38 and said, "Hey, I think some ministry time going." 02:42 And so you just, the ministry time 02:43 just super imposed itself on the production time 02:46 and lives of being re-arranged right here on the set. 02:49 And what I love about that is that we think God, 02:52 when the camera's got, you know, 02:55 and God's already done the work. 02:57 But that's not true. No. 02:58 So, when you do get that moment, 03:00 like there were times that I changed right on the set. 03:03 You know Stacey and Aaron were talking about 03:06 when I interviewed their brother, 03:09 Aaron's brother, years ago. 03:11 And I'm so angry, my sister is a stripper, 03:14 she's dying in the hospital. 03:16 He's a strip club owner and I want to strangle him, 03:19 I don't want to interview you, I don't want you here. 03:22 I don't think Grace is for you. 03:23 You know, I've made a mistake about all that. 03:26 But I'm feeling that angry and he comes on 03:29 and tells me his story, and I realized that, 03:32 you know, he got hijacked as a kid 03:35 for sexual addictions and with his family business. 03:38 And at one point I started to cry when he asked me, 03:41 "Would you forgive me for every girl I've damaged, 03:44 for every club I've opened. 03:46 Nobody's ever said this to you, but I'm sorry." 03:49 And I listen and I saw the grace of God 03:52 working in everybody's life. 03:53 And we had to stop. 03:55 Amen. Yeah. 03:56 You know, victimization 03:59 plays itself out in so many ways. 04:01 You know, some people just lie down 04:04 and sort of go into the fetal position 04:06 for the rest of their lives and just remain victims. 04:08 Others victimize others, generationally. 04:11 Others turned into a hard, cold people. 04:14 Others become dupes and pawns 04:16 or anybody with a game, you know. 04:18 You got so many things when you run into that 04:21 and you see a little light come on. 04:22 I know you merely kind of stop it 04:24 and kind of mind that thing and fan that flame. 04:26 And that's good, because 04:28 reclamation supersedes production 04:32 and you can do them both. 04:33 But if you see a little light come on, 04:35 hey, you got to chase that thing and get it done. 04:37 And every time you see that, 04:39 it's amazing to me when you actually see, 04:42 who God created that person to be, 04:44 I'm so proud of God. 04:45 Praise the Lord, yeah. 04:47 You know, sometimes we're hiding behind 04:48 all our addictions, all our craziness, 04:50 then God says, "You know what, that, 04:51 if you got to see him, if you got to see her, 04:54 you'd be honored." 04:56 Yeah, yeah. 04:57 It's like a person a week we saw little bit ago 05:00 who is he the beating up somebody or beating himself 05:05 up to the point of bloodying his own face with his own fist. 05:08 You know, that's crazy stuff. 05:11 And yet, God can reach down and take a person who... 05:13 some people cut themselves, 05:15 but I had never heard anybody punching themselves bloody. 05:17 You know, kind of thing. 05:19 Bashing his face on a brick wall. 05:20 Yeah, yeah. Hated himself. 05:21 Yeah, hated himself, just hated himself. 05:23 And now has enough love of God in him to love others 05:28 and most importantly to love himself. 05:29 It's so cool. It is, it really is. 05:31 So I'd like to introduce to you the next rolling 05:35 that you're gonna see, 05:36 when I first met Angela and Jay, 05:40 I was numb. 05:42 It felt like their pain became my pain, 05:46 it was so intense. 05:48 But Angela and jay, 05:50 Angela was at home, 05:52 watching the kids, having a great day, 05:54 throwing some clothes in the laundry 05:55 and till her son was quiet. 05:57 And so she walked around, 05:58 trying to find her 18 month old son. 06:00 And she said I just, 06:02 all of a sudden went to the backyard, 06:04 stood by the edge of the pool 06:05 and he was in the bottom of the pool. 06:07 Wow. 06:09 And everything changed in her life. 06:10 Jay comes home for lunch, he's a veterinarian, 06:13 comes home for lunch 06:15 and there's a helicopter parked in his front yard, 06:18 with all the rescue things. 06:20 And nobody had called him, 06:22 he said, he just started screaming like, 06:23 what happened? 06:24 They said, "Somebody drowned." 06:26 "What do you mean, somebody drowned? 06:28 This is my house." Yeah. 06:30 Everything changed for them and it was... 06:33 I don't think 06:35 they don't try to make this a pretty thing. 06:39 But there journey back to God, 06:40 their journey back to each other, 06:42 their journey to recovery was so amazing. 06:46 It's so amazing. Yeah. 06:47 So then, and Lisa, there's another guest 06:50 that we're talking about is 06:52 that she's an incredible woman, 06:54 married, fell on love, all that kind of stuff, 06:56 has three kids, had four kids, 06:58 one after another dealing with autism, severe autism. 07:03 And then we've got, 07:06 Damas said, I met him 18 months ago 07:11 and looked at him and he was the walking dead. 07:14 And just what happened in his family, in his life. 07:18 And 18 months later he's back on the top of this game. 07:24 So fun, so enjoyed this. 07:25 It is an amazing, amazing season. 07:30 First of all, I'm yelling for help 07:32 and I could not save my child. 07:35 So my second child comes in, 12 years old, 07:39 he became 27 within three minutes, you see. 07:42 He's a little child. 07:44 And he's suddenly in the bottom of the pool, 07:48 and the enemy speaks, 07:49 "Now, I'm going to take hem both." 07:51 I'm here to tell you, 07:53 the rubber met the road right there in my soul, 07:55 because now two of my children are in the pool 07:59 and I can't do anything. 08:02 I remember falling to my knees on that concrete and I said, 08:06 "God, you have got to do something." 08:12 I could have been there. 08:13 You know, I spent my whole life on a day-to-day 08:15 since I'm a veterinarian, 08:17 I'm working really hard to save one pound, 08:20 couldn't happen to me yesterday. 08:21 I was successful, 08:23 yet I was not afford of the opportunity 08:26 and I was not successful with my own son. 08:28 There's a lot of inequity 08:30 there that really will grind on you over 08:32 a long period of time. 08:33 And just like you said, 08:35 you've got all these big questions, 08:36 just like you said, it was who's fault? 08:38 There's, why did it happen? 08:39 And the idea that all those would come 08:41 and you might scream those out, 08:42 you might, but you'll scream them out 08:44 in really slow motion over about five years. 08:48 Every day something happened 08:50 and as I'm doing high ropes with my son and stuff, 08:53 and we're there working to build to work as a team. 08:55 It's about challenging relationships. 08:57 Right, as you're connecting... 08:58 As we're connecting with him, he got me through a challenge 09:01 when I said, "I can't do it anymore, son." 09:03 And make me pull himself out, 09:04 and this is where the parent became the child 09:07 and the child became the parent. 09:08 And he says, "Dad, I believe I you, 09:10 you can do this, I know you can." 09:13 I love that, are you kidding me? 09:15 Now my son is like, this my cool, calm, 09:17 and collected phlegmatic son, 09:18 you know, he just cruises in life 09:20 'cause that's the way he handles special needs, 09:22 you know. And he's like exotic. 09:24 "You can do that, you're so close." 09:26 We ended up being one of three parent-child 09:29 that summer to make it to the end 09:31 and I was exhausted. 09:33 And you know what, 09:34 something happened inside my brain. 09:36 Whatever it was, it actually let me know 09:39 that I was truly valued, 09:41 that I was truly loved. 09:42 That you're not done yet. 09:44 And I'm not done yet, 09:45 and my son saw something in me that I didn't. 09:49 You know, what I really loved 09:51 that it was so powerful to me about our guests, 09:56 especially, Angela and Jay, 09:59 is that Angela came on it, 10:01 she really is used to speaking in front of people 10:05 about her loss and about her recovery. 10:08 Men grieve differently, you know, 10:10 they really handle that differently. 10:12 And when at one point even during the program, 10:15 Jay had to get up and walk out of the room 10:18 and come back, and he said, 10:19 you know, for him, it was years later, 10:22 he's trying to fix everything, 10:24 he's trying to make his family, 10:25 help his family survive, he's trying to do the shopping. 10:29 Wife is in bed he's like, you know what, 10:31 his grieving was different. 10:33 And I think he clearly gifted us 10:37 with a little snapshot 10:39 of how maybe men would handle this. 10:44 And I think for men that don't speak often, 10:47 that don't, you know we grab our friends 10:49 and go for a walk and call someone. 10:52 And he said, you know what, 10:54 he didn't share with anybody hardly 10:56 and now he just repents of that. 10:58 And if somebody even dies in his community, 11:01 he will go out, especially children, 11:04 when people are burying children, 11:05 he said, "I just go stand there, 11:07 and if they want to speak to me, 11:09 I'm available." 11:11 And you know, Lisa, I just love her 11:14 and the struggles and the passion 11:16 she has to trying to make it right. 11:18 And the guy that from New Zealand that you know, 11:23 18 months later, and he is so powerful, 11:29 and so passionate about God, and so right there. 11:33 And I know that we shouldn't say man, 11:39 and I got to be a part of that of how cool is that. 11:41 You know, I know that there's probably 11:42 something that somebody wants to warn you about that, 11:45 but I want to celebrate, I just think, how cool is that. 11:48 I feel like he is my spiritual brother, 11:50 I feel like, you know, 11:52 somehow on the other side of all 11:54 of this kind of stuff in eternity 11:56 that we're just gonna look at each other and go like... 11:59 Praise the lord. Yeah. 12:01 You know, I'm thinking about Angela and Jay 12:02 and their experience, 12:03 I am having past in the New York city 12:05 and I know that the loss of a child, 12:08 when in the care of one of the parents 12:12 can occasion a break up of that family. 12:15 It's like, okay, I'm at work, you're home, 12:18 you're suppose to be watching and taking care of. 12:19 Yeah, we're worried. 12:21 Yeah, we're worried, you know, kind of thing. 12:22 So they've beat the odds on so many levels. 12:28 One, they're still believing in God 12:32 and believing in his ability to keep and hold. 12:35 Two, they're going through this together, 12:38 it's not, I'm here and this is on you 12:42 because I'm working 12:43 and you are supposed to be doing your job, 12:44 you're not doing your job. 12:46 I so fell in love with this couple but Jay especially, 12:51 'cause all of this chaos is going on, 12:54 helicopters, his son is dead, 12:56 they're working on him, had worked on him for so long. 12:59 But he walked through all of that chaos, 13:01 all of that screaming, all of that, 13:04 even neighbors screaming like, "What's happening?" 13:07 And he walked to his wife 13:08 and he put his hands on her face 13:10 and he said, "This is not your fault." 13:14 And I thought, he did what? 13:16 Yeah. 13:17 And so, he really addressed that early on in, 13:19 and not that it was easy for the next few years, 13:23 but she said, 13:25 " I couldn't believe he did that, 13:27 I couldn't believe he looked right at me." 13:29 And what he said even in the interview is that, 13:32 you know that, 13:33 I know how much she loves this boy, 13:36 I know her as a mother. 13:38 I don't know what happened, 13:39 but I know this was not your fault. 13:41 And so even if you are doing a loss, 13:44 and I love the fact that 13:45 we get e-mails from people that said that, 13:48 "I couldn't even hard to watch the program, 13:50 I was just in tears." 13:52 But if you are doing a loss, 13:54 so you don't know what to say to somebody 13:55 that has lost a child, 13:57 and these programs will really help you on what to say. 13:59 Because remember, 14:01 we're switching in a whole different way, 14:02 how do we mentor, how do we equip, 14:05 how do we let people know that this is not, 14:07 here's some tools that you can do 14:10 if you are in that situation. 14:11 Because I've been in a situation 14:13 where a friend lost a child 14:15 and I was so devastated that I backed away 14:18 instead of came forward. 14:20 And I will never do that again. 14:23 I can't change that. Yeah. 14:24 But I have tools now that I won't do that again. 14:28 And I have to say, most people, 14:29 simply because they don't know what to say, 14:31 say nothing and sort of just fold their arms and back away. 14:35 Because, truth is there's no perfect thing to say, 14:39 you know, there's no like you can get out of the box 14:41 and kind of mix in hot water and stir and it's perfect. 14:44 You know, it just not, it doesn't work that way. 14:46 But the fact that they're still together, 14:48 there's no blame, there's no ranker, 14:51 and they're holding on to each other, 14:53 that's what's powerful 14:55 and that's what we can't take away. 14:57 That this kind of loss doesn't have to tear you apart, 15:00 doesn't have to tear your family apart. 15:03 There is no cookie cutter solution for grieving, 15:06 everybody grieves differently, 15:08 and men and women grieve differently, 15:09 husbands and wives may grieve differently, 15:11 but you can grieve together 15:13 and you don't have to push each other away. 15:14 And I want to go to the next roll 15:17 but want to say that, 12 years, 15:19 she couldn't get to the bottom of the pool 15:21 'cause she was screaming and breathing 15:23 in water and unable to... 15:25 and she's a swimmer 15:26 but she said, "I couldn't get there." 15:27 And so, then her 12 year old son jumped in 15:30 and brought his dead brother up in his arms. 15:32 Wow. 15:33 And that boy, 15:34 now works for the United Nations, 15:36 that boy says, "I lived my life twice 15:40 as I what I would have to honor my brother." 15:42 So everybody, not only survived 15:44 but they're incredible, incredible family. 15:46 Amen. 15:47 That's a great, great story. 15:48 That's why you have to watch, 15:50 because we are giving you the tease, 15:53 we are giving you the aerial view. 15:55 You need to get right on a ground 15:56 and get up close to look at this stuff 15:57 because it will change your life. 15:59 It will encourage you, you'll laugh, you'll cry, 16:02 but you'll be encouraged to see the power of reclamation 16:06 and what God can do through, with, for, to individuals 16:11 who simply put it out there and say, 16:13 "God, take it, it's too heavy for me, 16:14 I can't deal with it, you got to take it." 16:16 And he can and he will and, Cheri, he does. 16:19 And we're going to the Victorian Jesus, 16:21 Bill's book. 16:22 But in the book 'God is crazy about you', 16:24 one of the things I was trying to figure out, 16:27 you know, how does God heal us? 16:29 What does that look like? 16:30 But one time I was speaking at an event 16:33 and when I was speaking at this event, 16:36 this woman comes up to me and she simply says, 16:40 "Does your mother love you yet?" 16:43 And I, you know, 16:45 my mom, I love her, 16:47 she's incredible but we never bonded. 16:50 You know, she was damaged, 16:52 you know, I got damaged, 16:53 it was not... 16:55 I don't think it was anybody's fault. 16:56 I mean, she wasn't evil and meant to hurt me. 16:58 Right, right. 17:00 It was just, all of the damage was so severe. 17:02 And addictions and all that. 17:04 But when this woman said that, 17:05 I started crying and it caught me off guard. 17:07 And I'm embarrassed 17:09 'cause I usually don't and I'm crying, 17:11 and she just held me and she said that 17:12 I want you to know that I love you. 17:14 Wow. I love you. 17:16 And I kind of just was in her arms 17:21 and trying to figure out what's that about. 17:24 And little while later, like a few months later, 17:27 I see her again and she says, 17:29 I talk with my whole family and we'd like to adopt you. 17:33 And I'm thinking, wait, I'm 43 years old, 17:35 what do you mean adopt me? 17:37 But when she said that, first time in my life, 17:40 in my own skin, I felt like a wanted child. 17:43 It was so bizarre. 17:45 And we talked then about the bizarreness of it 17:48 and she said, I know, but I think it's from God. 17:50 So she adopts me, her family adopts me, 17:52 John and Marcia. 17:54 So then, I get home from a gig, 17:56 I get the mail and I get a birthday card, 17:59 "Happy First Birthday." 18:01 A little tiny kitty-cat or something 18:03 and I'm thinking, how funny is this. 18:06 And then the next week, "Happy second Birthday." 18:09 And she said, "I'm gonna send you a birthday card 18:11 every weekend until I catch up." 18:13 By the third week, 18:15 I'm by the post box, I'm by the mail box, 18:18 and I'm waiting and I open it up 18:20 and it's a little duck holding an umbrella. 18:22 And she said, "If I would have been there 18:24 when you were three, I would've held you 18:26 and told you how beautiful," 18:28 and I am weeping and every part of my body starts to heal. 18:32 I finally feel like 18:34 what it feels like to have a mom, 18:35 what it feels like to have that. 18:37 So, even when we start to trust God with our recovery 18:40 and we start to say, 18:41 "God knows exactly what we need to heal." 18:44 And if we are open to that every day thing, 18:47 stay in present in that day 18:49 literally knowing that God himself is our counselor, 18:53 that he is going to come and wrap around what we need. 18:56 Fabulous. That he will bring in healing. 18:58 So, the reality for me is that 19:02 we will get what we need from a God 19:05 who knows what we need and is trying to get us home. 19:08 Yeah, yeah. It's just amazing. 19:09 It is amazing. 19:11 Before you look to the next little bit, 19:12 there's a text that comes to mind, 19:15 just one verse. 19:16 2 Corinthian 2:14, 19:19 Paul writer to the church of Corinthian says, 19:21 and of course, when you talk about the Corinthian church, 19:23 you talk about this functional church. 19:25 The Corinthian church should be 19:28 on celebrating life in recovery. 19:29 They were a mess. 19:31 Yeah, because they were a mess, they were a mess. 19:32 So Paul is saying, 19:35 "Now thanks be to God 19:37 who always leads us in triumph in Christ." 19:41 You know, I'm thanking God 19:42 because triumph is guaranteed 19:44 and that's where the show highlights that... 19:47 "And through us," he says, 19:48 "defuses the fragrance of his knowledge 19:50 in every place." 19:51 So, we thank God because 19:53 at the end of the road there is victory, 19:55 there is triumph. 19:56 God always leads us in triumph. 19:58 If you trust him, if you put in his hands, 20:00 if it's too big for you to carry, 20:02 it is not too big for him. 20:03 Just because you are clueless or I am clueless, 20:06 doesn't mean he is, he's got an answer. 20:08 So he always leads us in triumph in Christ 20:11 and that's what we see. 20:12 No matter how far you've gone, 20:14 no matter how long you've been there, 20:16 he can go down, reach down and pull you back. 20:19 And that's what's so fabulous about this whole thing. 20:21 And what I love about that is 20:24 when you get into the word of God 20:26 and you actually start to open up, 20:28 what does God say is over and over and over 20:31 he says the same thing that, I'll lead you, I'll do it. 20:35 You know, somebody could have met me, 20:38 like you met me years ago, right? 20:40 I'm much different than I am, than I was then. 20:44 I mean, the things that I have dealt with, 20:46 the things that God has allowed me to surrender, 20:49 hopefully, next year 20:51 I'll be surrendering something else 20:52 or five years from now. 20:53 But God says, I will lead you 20:55 in all of those ways 20:56 and when we step alongside of each other 20:58 and actually figure out 20:59 what he means by that, we can heal. 21:01 Yes. So cool. 21:03 Yeah, praise the Lord. 21:05 The next group of folks 21:08 I want to introduce you to is Richie and Timari Brower. 21:12 They are marriage counselors and that cracks me out 21:16 because they were a mess. 21:19 They were a mess. 21:20 They shouldn't even have got married. 21:22 They fought during the whole engagement, 21:25 their first couple years of their marriage was so bad 21:30 because she was damaged 21:32 and then he thought it was all perfect 21:35 but he was raised by a hoarding mother 21:37 and had all kinds of stuff and divorce and everything. 21:40 But when they started to heal 21:42 and realize how powerful God is in healing, 21:45 they had to teach someone else. 21:47 Amen. 21:48 I got to teach somebody. Yeah. 21:49 And then Donald and Janelle Owen, 21:52 they have run our groups, 21:54 Celebrating Life in Recovery in the community 21:56 but they have really been in bondage 21:59 to sexual addictions, and divorce, 22:01 and abuse, and insecurity and they talk about that. 22:05 They may be offensive to some 22:07 because they talk so openly about that. 22:09 Yes. 22:10 I wanted to just hold them 22:12 and thank them for their honesty. 22:15 But you know, enjoy this group of shots 22:19 because it's a pretty amazing stories. 22:22 All the things we didn't know, 22:25 smashed us on the head like an anvil. 22:27 Would that be appropriate? 22:28 Yeah, so we went off on our honeymoon, 22:30 I mean, like lot of young couples, 22:32 we had you know said, 22:34 we're gonna save physical intimacy for marriage 22:37 and so we were excited about the honeymoon 22:40 and talking about how great this is going to be to connect, 22:43 you know, sexually 22:44 and we're looking forward to it. 22:45 And so we leave our wedding day, 22:48 exhausted, you know... 22:49 That's a tiring day. And hungry. 22:51 Yeah, and hungry. 22:53 And we are off on our honeymoon 22:54 and everything fell apart. 22:57 Whoa. 22:58 I had a dream, I know where I came from, 23:01 I came from God, 23:02 and he spoke to me through that dream. 23:05 It was very intense. 23:07 I was in a bar drinking, 23:08 having some fun with some friends, 23:09 there's Donald standing up. 23:12 This old man walks in, he had long white beard, 23:14 long white hair, made eye contact with me, 23:17 he literally look me in the eyes said, 23:18 "God is coming." 23:20 And I just shout up on my bed 23:21 and I just literally ran to the living room. 23:23 I've never read a Bible before, I grabbed a Bible, 23:25 started reading it, I'm like, why am I even doing this? 23:27 I started crying, I'm like, I don't know what's going on. 23:30 And so, I saw those changes 23:32 and I knew that it had to be God, 23:33 it had to be, you know, way beyond him 23:35 because of the repeated times he tried change. 23:39 And so we decided at one point, actually, he was ready. 23:44 Each time like, each step towards God, 23:47 he was ready before I was. 23:49 But he wanted to get rid of our porn stache 23:54 and our toys and stuff. 23:55 And so I said, well, no. 23:57 I'm not ready. I'm not ready. 23:59 And so, he know, 24:01 he got rid of some of his stuff. 24:02 And so you know, eventually, 24:04 I don't know whether I spend some time there 24:06 but eventually I wanted to do the same thing. 24:10 Janelle and Donald are people that I have known for a while. 24:14 I did not know that history. 24:16 And it says a couple of things. 24:17 One, it says that the Lord can totally change you 24:20 and re-arrange your personality that as I see you now, 24:23 I don't even know that you had that kind of past. 24:25 That shows how thoroughly a life can be reclaimed. 24:28 When she talked, 24:30 it was so interesting to me 24:33 because what she said is, 24:35 I just don't want to keep hiding. 24:38 She was hijacked in a sexual addiction 24:41 from the time she was a little girl 24:43 when people were divorcing 24:44 and relationships were falling apart 24:46 and all that kind of stuff, 24:48 and she said, "I don't want to offend anyone 24:51 but I don't want to hide because God was so good, 24:54 and you know, I burned all my pornography, 24:57 all my toys, literally changed my life." 24:59 Or somebody is shocked when they hear this story 25:02 because they just think, 25:04 if anybody is a saint, it's Janelle, 25:05 she's just beautiful, and pure, and stuff, 25:07 and she said, "You know what, I am that, now." 25:10 Yeah, now. But I was not that then. 25:13 And then even Richie and Timmy, 25:18 the same kind of the thing is 25:20 that they have this history that's just crazy. 25:22 And God says, "You know what, 25:23 let me change everything and then go teach someone, 25:27 go mentor someone else, take it out, 25:30 don't hold it just for yourself." 25:31 So we're gonna go ahead and take a break right now, 25:34 but you know, the whole thing 25:35 for this series is go tell someone. 25:38 Heal yourself and then tell someone else." 25:40 All right. |
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