Participants: Cheri Peters (Host), Tom & Vicki Mann
Series Code: CLR
Program Code: CLR00073C
00:11 Welcome back, you know this is one of those topics,
00:13 or subjects that which we never had to cover. 00:16 I wish this was never an issue in any family and that 00:20 the world was perfect, but unfortunately it is not. 00:23 I think that God is not afraid of dealing with these issues 00:26 and when I watch Him with you guys, Tom and Vicki, 00:29 He restored everything and brought you back to a place 00:32 where you're laughing out loud. 00:34 Your children are laughing, your Christmases around the 00:37 tree or in the family setting is just wonderful. 00:40 It makes me proud of who God is. 00:42 It makes me realize that nothing is bigger than He is. 00:46 I know Tom that you have a story about your ex and how 00:50 God brought it full circle so I would like you to tell us 00:53 about that as we close. 00:54 Remember I said being angry and all these other things, 00:57 and in just one point even praying for justice. 01:01 She went through having breast cancer. 01:04 She went through several things, another marriage that 01:09 was abusive and etc. 01:10 There was a side of me go of hmmm you got what you wanted, 01:13 you deserve this. - And that rage in you came up. 01:16 Yea, but then all of a sudden that began to change. 01:19 I remember that I wanted my daughter to get established 01:22 with her mom, because there had been a big divide in that 01:25 relationship over several things. 01:28 So we talked about that and I think, Vicki you were talking 01:31 about that my ex-wife asked to come up to visit her. 01:35 Vicki said fine, have her come up, we have a little 01:39 apartment in the back, and have her stay. 01:40 She can stay at our house, that's Vicki, 01:42 but they get along very well. 01:44 This has been a neat thing so I have to hand that to her. 01:47 It seems a little bit awkward, but after a period of time 01:51 my daughter and her mom re- established their relationship. 01:54 A few months ago, my ex-wife second marriage failed. 01:58 I got a phone call I never thought I would get, ever. 02:01 There was a lady crying on the phone and I knew who it 02:04 was instantly, I thought she said I can't get over it and I 02:07 thought she was talking about her second marriage, 02:08 like no our marriage. 02:10 She basically said, I need your forgiveness to go on and 02:15 she spilled everything out. 02:17 She went through the whole details with it and at that 02:20 time in my heart the Lord was speaking through me because 02:23 it had to come that way. 02:26 Basically I said you are forgiven and don't worry about 02:29 it, just to let you know, do you remember what 02:32 Joseph said to his brothers basically in a nutshell? 02:34 You meant evil against me but God meant it for good. 02:37 I got to say that to her, but then that wasn't the end of it. 02:41 I felt God telling me, so clearly, tell her this and I 02:45 heard this coming out of my mouth, and not having the full 02:48 comprehension of what I was saying. 02:49 It was if anyone ever says to you that there is a problem 02:53 a Pastor, someone in the church, a family member that you 02:56 are not forgiven, or that you can't do something because of 02:59 what took place, have them call me because I will set 03:03 them straight. - no way, Amen! 03:05 It hit me because that truly is what forgiveness is. 03:08 It wasn't that I was so great, but God had taken me to 03:11 the point and just like poured out of me and then I sat 03:14 back and it was an amazing feeling. 03:16 - That is amazing, so if you are listening and you are 03:20 dealing with any of these things, it is so important to 03:23 do the work, like Tom and Vicki did. 03:26 Look at your own stuff, look at your own hurts, look at 03:29 your own rage, anger and all that kind of thing. 03:32 What the devil meant to destroy you with all that. 03:34 Claim full responsibility for it and hand it to God and be free. 03:39 Forgive the people around you, it's huge. 03:42 Thank you for joining us on this program and 03:44 until next week always remember that God is crazy 03:47 about you and me too. |
Revised 2014-12-17