Participants: Cheri Peters (Host), Jeremy & Heidi Summerlin
Series Code: CLR
Program Code: CLR00083A
00:11 Welcome to Celebrating Life In Recovery,
00:12 I'm Cheri your host. 00:13 Have you ever wanted to be free? I mean totally free 00:16 from all the garbage, all the emotional stuff, 00:18 that is what God promises and that is what recovery 00:20 it's all about so come join us in a café. 00:22 We are going to talk about that today. 00:52 Welcome back, we're going to do a program today on how 00:55 to heal, because a lot of times we talk about the fact 00:58 that God wants us to heal, and some people have even written 01:00 in and said do you know you are talking about psychology? 01:02 We are not talking about that. 01:05 So I want to tell you a story to give you an idea of why 01:09 I think God just wants us to really look at what is moving 01:13 us around, what motivates us. 01:15 The story my Pastor told in church, so I'm not saying 01:18 anything that he hasn't already told. 01:19 But my Pastor and I have had this thing, I don't know the 01:24 thing is, but I knew right away that there was something 01:29 between us over the years. 01:31 It has come up and it has gone away, it's come up and 01:34 once in awhile I will be talking and I will look at the 01:37 Pastor and his jaw is set. 01:38 I'm thinking his jaw is set I better be quiet. 01:41 So it has always been there. 01:43 Not too long ago we were doing a church service, 01:47 this woman had come in and talked about that she had 01:49 given her children up, she had just got out of jail 01:52 and had given her children to some members in our church. 01:54 She was crying about that, but she knew it was the right 01:57 thing because she had relapsed a number of times already. 01:59 We prayed about that, and after church the Pastor said, 02:02 would you come and do an anointing with us? 02:06 I love to do that kind of stuff, but I just knew that him 02:09 and I had this thing going on and I am not sure what it is. 02:12 So I went in and we did the anointing, as we are praying 02:15 I felt like the Holy Spirit said Cheri, want you to pray 02:18 for this woman, this woman has cancer and she is very sick. 02:22 She is dealing with all this and I want you to pray for 02:25 her emotional things first. 02:27 For years she has held on to some pretty heavy hurts in her 02:32 life which caused a lot of bitterness, a lot of anger, 02:35 and I felt like the Holy Spirit was saying that was where 02:38 the disease was coming from. 02:39 So ask her if you could pray for that and get some 02:42 forgiveness or release from that surrender first before 02:47 we ask for physical healing. 02:49 So I said, I would like to, before we start the 02:53 anointing, to pray for this. 02:55 I looked at my Pastor and his jaw was set. 02:57 I thought no you cannot have your jaw set now because 03:00 the Holy Spirit said, and inside I'm freaking out because 03:03 I knew that was going to happen and I didn't intend for 03:07 it to happen, so what ever. 03:09 He said go ahead and we did the prayer and it was cool. 03:13 At one point the Holy Spirit just filled the room, it was 03:17 so amazing and you can see and feel the healing that 03:21 happened and afterwards I was done with the prayer. 03:25 There was probably 10 of us in the room so I opened my eyes 03:28 and the Pastor looked at me and said, would you do the 03:31 anointing and he put the oil towards me? 03:35 I don't know because, I know that what ever is happening 03:39 with you and I has been happening a long time, 03:40 and I don't want to offend you, I'm a rejected kid and I'm 03:45 dealing with all that stuff. 03:47 He said go ahead and do that, so we did the anointing. 03:53 Afterwards I left church and went home and packed my bags up 03:57 the next day and went to Arkansas and did four days of 04:00 prison ministry, and when I came back the next week, 04:04 actually two weeks. 04:06 When I came back to church the family from this woman said, 04:08 did you hear what happened? Judy went in, got checked 04:11 and the cancer is... 04:14 They can't find the tumor on her pancreas. 04:16 It is amazing and all that, so I was thrilled. 04:18 What happened after I talked to the family was the Pastor 04:22 said, can I talk with you? 04:23 I thought, Oh man, I never know what's going to happen 04:27 with him and I because we have this underlying stuff. 04:32 It never gets talked about. 04:34 He said, can we talk you and I? 04:37 So I sat down and he said during the anointing when you 04:41 said, can I pray first about the emotional stuff, he said 04:46 I was just so, I felt like this anger come up in me. 04:51 I thought this is my thing and I am the one, it's my 04:57 church and you always take over. 04:59 I am looking at him and I knew he felt that way for a long 05:03 time, so for it to be said out loud was something that even 05:06 as he was saying it, it was healing to hear him say that. 05:09 I didn't know where he was going to go with it, 05:11 at that point, but God has been working with me over and 05:14 over, the last little while, trying to convince me that He 05:17 loves me and I am enough. 05:19 I don't have to compete with anybody, it is not about any 05:22 of that, as he was talking he said during the anointing, 05:25 as you started to take over the prayer and I felt all that 05:29 anger, I felt like the Holy Spirit said, are you going to 05:32 hold onto this for ever? 05:34 Surrender that, let that go, I love you, I love you. 05:38 As he is talking, I saw every thing in him was healed from 05:44 that, it was done for him. 05:46 There is nothing in him that was insecure about who he was, 05:51 or who I was, or any of that, and I thought God, 05:53 how fun are you? 05:54 I was saying to him that I was so glad about that healing 05:59 because I needed a Pastor for one. 06:01 I was just amazed and the next few days I'm praying for 06:04 him and thinking, God, You are amazing. 06:06 My Pastor is amazing, he's incredible Pastor, he has great 06:10 sermons, an incredible family, this just was something 06:13 stuck in him and I'm thinking this is done. 06:16 Then I hear God say to me at one point, do you think it 06:19 was all about him? 06:21 I'm like, well, of course I did, what do you mean? 06:24 He apologized, he said he talked to the whole church about 06:28 it, and God said the entire time, I mean him and I have 06:32 been working on this at some level for seven years. 06:36 So He said during that whole time, do you think I was 06:39 doing anything with you? 06:40 I couldn't think of it and all of a sudden the Holy Spirit, 06:45 you know how He just pours into you what He is saying? 06:48 The Holy Spirit poured into me that I am a rejected child, 06:52 I have been dealing with rejection my whole life. 06:54 So for the entire time that we have been dealing with all 06:59 these issues, these rejection issues, I have been getting 07:03 that sense from my Pastor that he has rejected me. 07:08 So He said during that time, the 7 years of the church 07:12 time we have been together, is that God has been helping 07:17 me to deal with rejection. 07:19 Because every time I felt that from the Pastor, 07:21 I would pray about it, I would talk to Brad about it, 07:23 I would try to deal with God and say, 07:27 how can I get over this? 07:28 So now the pastors telling me that he is dealing with his 07:32 stuff, and God has dealt with my rejection issues. 07:35 I realized when He showed me that that I just don't have 07:38 that button hardly any more. 07:40 That healing has happened, not only for the Pastor, 07:44 but for me, so I think the reason I wanted to do this 07:47 program, the reason it was so amazing to me to do this, 07:50 is God wants to heal us and to set us free. 07:53 One person, everybody, and we all walk around with these 07:57 little wounds, mine with rejection issues, 07:59 the Pastor with whatever threat he has spiritually. 08:01 I'm not even sure yet because we haven't sat down, 08:04 with what all his stuff was, but mine I know. 08:06 We all walk around with these and continue to be hurt 08:10 and hurt other people. 08:12 It's not saying were not saved, because were saved. 08:14 God loves us and we are in church most the time, 08:16 but because the wounds are so deep in our history's that 08:21 we still have all these buttons and God says let 08:23 Me just heal you of that so you can stop hurting 08:26 yourself and other people. 08:28 So this program we are going to talk about all this and 08:31 I'm going to reintroduce you to a couple that was on last 08:33 week, Jeremy and Heidi. 08:36 Jeremy and Heidi both came from severe backgrounds. 08:40 Incredibly damaging backgrounds, they fall in love, 08:44 who would have guessed it, all in their stuff. 08:47 They fell in love, came into a relationship with God 08:52 finally after years of abuse for each other. 08:54 The abuse wasn't, they weren't beaten each other, 08:57 just abusive stuff because of the drugs, alcohol and all that. 09:01 But then they come into a place where God is starting to 09:04 heal them, God is trying to convince them to walk into 09:07 a relationship with Him, but it is still not good. 09:10 God says, let's go deeper, let's actually heal some of the 09:14 things that you have been walking with your whole life. 09:17 That is what we are going to talk about today. 09:19 How does God get us to allow Him to come in and do that 09:23 deep healing, and this is the fun part, because God 09:25 actually wants us free, completely free so stay with us. 09:28 We are going to come back, Jeremy and Heidi will come up 09:31 and we will get right into what God did for them. 09:34 Remember as you listen, He wants to do it for you. |
Revised 2014-12-17