Participants: Cheri Peters (Host), Apryl Cordry, Nicole Day
Series Code: CLR
Program Code: CLR00095B
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00:14 Welcome back, one of my favorite text, and it was my
00:19 favorite in my own recovery, but its Jeremiah 29:11. 00:22 It says, "that for I know the plans I have for you, 00:26 "plans to prosper you, to bring you hope" 00:29 and all that stuff. 00:31 I just love the way that whole text talks about, not plans 00:35 of evil, but plans of good and all that stuff. 00:38 I grabbed hold of that, but when you go down to 13, it 00:41 says, "when you seek Me with all of your heart, you will 00:44 "find Me", and I never under- stood that in the first part 00:47 of my recovery, I understand it more now. 00:49 It's when I fell in love with God, then all of a sudden 00:53 everything changed, when it stopped being that somebody 00:56 was trying to teach me about recovery, or teach me about 01:00 God, but when I actually started having 01:01 a relationship that it all became real, it all changed 01:04 and my whole life changed. 01:06 For the kids at Teen Challenge, or anybody in recovery 01:09 that is our prayer for you is that you seek God with 01:12 all of your heart, and if you do He will be found. 01:15 I'm going to introduce you to Nichole, and Nicole 01:18 I want to say I came out to Teen Challenge and was your 01:21 Speaker, how long ago was that, do you remember? 01:24 A month and a half. - not long ago we were there. 01:27 And I was nervous but I loved coming out. 01:32 It was just amazing and I knew that I had come out and 01:37 get to speak with all of you. 01:38 There was how many in the House? - 9. 01:42 Nine kids in the house, nine girls and I got one hour. 01:47 You know, I think I went over, because I like to talk. 01:51 But I got one hour, in one hour to just say to you what 01:56 ever you do fight for your recovery. 01:58 Whatever you do grab hold of this and let God change 02:02 your life, and I desperately wanted that message to come 02:06 across, I don't know if it did. 02:07 It did! - good, and so now I remember when I was done 02:11 and I turned around and I said I would be so honored, 02:15 I asked who going to get into ministry, who is going 02:18 to be able to, does anybody see themselves as going 02:22 through this whole program and doing maybe what I do, 02:25 helping someone else? 02:27 You raised your hand. - I want to go to different 02:29 countries and share what God's done in my life and help 02:33 other people know God who don't know God. 02:36 You felt that strong? - yeah. - yeah. 02:38 When you raised your hand the only thing I could think of 02:41 is you got to come out and just hang out with us on 02:43 the set, do the program. 02:44 And so I said that, everybody looked like, yeah we'll do that 02:50 and so I'm so glad you are here. 02:52 So now before we even talk about your recovery, where did 02:57 you come from and who are you? 02:58 Like what took you to Teen Challenge? 03:01 Well growing up my parents were Christians. 03:04 They worked hard to provide a life for me and my younger 03:07 brother, but as they worked I felt like work was more 03:10 important, my mom was a boss at her own physical 03:14 therapist building. - so she worked all the time. 03:17 - all the time, and my dad was a nurse in a jail at night. 03:22 So. - and slept during the day? - yeah, so I really 03:26 didn't have parents around too much when I was growing up. 03:30 - people don't think about that, because they think I am 03:33 going to work and my kids are going to have everything. 03:36 But if they don't have you they have nothing. - yeah. 03:39 Yeah so that's real clear with what you are saying? 03:43 Yeah, and as I grew up my dad tried to be there for me 03:47 and my mom too, like I had horseback riding lessons and 03:51 I was active in sports but I feel like the more I tried 03:54 to get their attention and get them to love me they would 03:58 just push me away, like work I need to do this for work. 04:02 You're my way, work. - tired? - they're tired and they 04:05 need to sleep or they are stressed out because 04:07 they needed to get something done for work. 04:09 So I start hanging out with older people and got into 04:13 smoking weed, drinking, sex when I was 12. - wow! 04:18 So really young? - really young. 04:19 Yeah and you know I was pregnant by 12 and I remember 04:23 telling you that and saying that sometimes when you are 04:27 so wanting adult attention, the wrong adults will give 04:31 it to you. - Um Hmmm, and as I got their attention 04:35 I didn't want to lose it either so I wanted to gain all 04:39 of their approvals since I couldn't get my parents so 04:42 I just went full force, I just went with them and 04:46 what they were doing. 04:47 - whatever they were doing was okay with you? 04:49 Yeah, and I was walking into middle school at that point. 04:53 Because I failed a grade before and I walked in wanting 04:57 to find the crowd who was into that bad stuff and 05:01 I found it and I got a bad reputation because of it. 05:04 At 13 I was experimenting with all different kinds of 05:08 drugs with other people. 05:10 You know for some people don't realize what is in school. 05:14 Because when you think how bad can school get, talk 05:17 about a little, and you don't even have to talk about 05:20 you a little bit, just what is out there? 05:22 Well in my school it's actually like a decent school 05:26 compared to where I live in the area. 05:28 But there are kids who do sell drugs on our campus. 05:32 We, before I came to Teen Challenge, we had a drug search 05:36 and there was I think 17 kids in our elementary center 05:40 who got caught with drugs. - in the elementary school? 05:44 Yeah, and that's first through fifth grade. 05:46 And then we had 22 in middle school and like 50 in high 05:51 school, so. - because I think for a lot of people they 05:55 think if I don't know it, then maybe it doesn't exist. 06:00 And we're like no, no, no educate yourself. 06:03 Educate yourself because I really believe that when you 06:07 talk about that loneliness of not having, raising yourself 06:11 and not having any parents around and all that stuff. 06:15 There is a loneliness in there and I'm going to fill it. 06:18 When I find something that works, I'm going to do it all 06:22 the time, drugs and relation- ships and sex and partying 06:25 that just works and then I'm going to be angry at you if 06:29 you try to take it away from me. 06:31 Oh yeah. - did you deal with anger at all? 06:34 Yeah, that was probably one of the worst side effects 06:38 of my drug use was anger and violence, I liked to fight 06:42 a lot. - because I'm looking at you and I'm like 06:44 shut up, no way, look how sweet you are. 06:47 But so Nicole, because I know right now you're just 06:52 looking so like a model, you look like you could be 06:56 on Seventeen Magazine, if you know what I mean? 07:00 But that is not who you were and not the life you came 07:03 from, so when you talk about violence what was that like? 07:07 I imagine if you and I were friends and I made you angry 07:11 I would have to watch my back? - oh yeah, yeah. 07:14 I was violent towards anybody, I didn't care what age, 07:19 well mostly my brother towards younger kids, but I would 07:24 also fight guys like older than 22, I was a mess. 07:30 I didn't want anybody coming at me. 07:32 You needed to equalize the situation. - yeah. 07:34 But most of my violence was towards my parents too. 07:38 I didn't have a problem offending my parents at all. 07:42 When you were violent toward your parents, when you hit 07:47 them, was there a sense of hitting them or getting back 07:52 at them for what they didn't give you? 07:55 Or was that just already gone there is just anger at 07:57 that point? - there was just anger at that point. 07:59 Okay - yeah. - so you are out of control and I'm angry 08:03 running away and doing any of that kind of stuff? 08:05 I wasn't really a runaway person 08:10 - I like that, you can leave? - yeah like I had 08:13 nowhere to go so I didn't know where I was going to run to, 08:16 but I was like I did sneak around a lot. 08:20 My mom since she was working all the time she would come 08:24 home and fall asleep very quickly, so I would just go 08:27 out and she wouldn't even know. 08:28 I would come back at four o'clock in the morning and 08:30 she wouldn't know anything until she found out. 08:34 Did you ever get into like, and I don't want to say 08:37 typical things because they don't want to downplay like 08:40 the cutting and all that kind of stuff. 08:42 Did you get into any of that? I mean not other people 08:46 yourself? - yeah, no not as much like I never cut, cut. 08:50 I wasn't wanting to hurt myself, there was a point 08:55 where I was very angry at my mom and there was a fight 08:59 that happened and I ran down to my basement because 09:03 my dad has work tools down there. 09:05 I grabbed one of his razor big knife things and I held 09:10 it up to my neck and I was contemplating should I do 09:14 it, but my little brother ran down the stairs and 09:19 he saw me holding that and I saw him cry because he 09:23 was my brother and I had to drop it and just ran out 09:28 the door because I couldn't stay there. 09:29 You saw the trauma in his eyes? - yeah, yeah. 09:33 Wow, so from that point, because you are still in high 09:37 school, like a sophomore right? Sophomore, junior, 09:41 senior. - because you are taking all three courses at 09:46 Teen Challenge so to me you are still in high school. 09:50 When did somebody just say enough? 09:53 Well I got into cocaine and LSD, I kept it away from 09:59 my true friends and people who really cared about me. 10:04 My parents obviously knew that there was something wrong 10:08 but I was getting crazy. - especially on LSD, 10:10 you just get crazy. 10:12 You go running around and around and thinking you can 10:15 kill people, - you say that so nicely, think you can 10:19 kill people. - like I really thought I could. 10:22 - with your mind even. - yeah. 10:24 So for a lot of people that haven't been on LSD your 10:28 hallucinogenics like that, a lot of times you will 10:32 just think that I can control you with my mind. 10:35 I can actually take your life with my mind and 10:38 it can get you so twisted and so locked up. 10:41 Were you doing movies and video games at all that stuff? 10:46 Not so much, I was more like, well I did play video games 10:52 sometimes, but not as much like other people. 10:55 Because I was going to say sometimes with the violence 10:58 and LSD is that you can actually act out some of your 11:01 fantasies, but it sounds like you didn't have to. 11:03 You just had them in your head? - yeah. 11:06 That is a lot of anger. - yeah. 11:09 I really like my anger was towards my parents not 11:13 caring about me, but as soon as my parents started 11:16 noticing like that something was wrong with her, 11:20 they wanted to care about me but at that point I was so 11:23 angry that they didn't care about me before, or I felt 11:25 like they didn't, but I did want them to care about me 11:28 so I was angry that they were caring now. 11:30 Don't touch me now? - yeah. - it's done. - um hmmm. 11:34 It's too late. - yeah. 11:36 So I can imagine that, so now you are doing LSD and coke. 11:40 Did you ever get arrested? 11:41 I had a couple of run-ins with the cops, nothing 11:45 serious, I got a lot of citations but I paid them off 11:49 before, so it wasn't bad with the cops. 11:53 So were you going to church during that time at all? 11:56 Um, my parents, I kind of stopped going to church with 11:59 them when they brought me to church they were embarrassed 12:01 because I would sit in the back and fall asleep or 12:06 like make a jerk out of myself. 12:08 - make fun of people? - Oh yeah. 12:10 Laugh at what was being said. - talk really loud. 12:13 So they didn't force you to come anymore? - no. 12:17 So who intervened, who came in and said you know enough? 12:22 Well it happen when I was getting involved with a guy 12:28 I was on and off with in seventh grade, and he had his own 12:32 addiction problems with steroid use and that kind 12:35 of makes you angry too. 12:38 So it was a bad couple, we got in a lot of fights together 12:43 and whatever but my mom didn't like him. 12:46 He proposed to me when I was 16 and I said yes because 12:50 that was okay and I thought I really loved him. 12:56 My mom found out like everything from the Internet 13:00 because I was kind of getting My Space and Face Book 13:04 because of pictures and stuff. 13:06 - why would you get famous on those two networks? 13:13 I have a lot of promiscuous pictures and videos on the 13:17 Internet so people were adding me because of them. 13:21 Okay, and that is another way people really get lost 13:24 in that stuff. - Ah hmmm. - and somebody will say 13:28 why do people do that? It's like you know what I am 13:31 going to get some attention, you are not going to 13:34 ignore me, I am going to be out there. 13:36 And you find something that works, our bodies work, 13:39 in our anger works and all that kind of stuff. 13:41 So now people are literally uploading videos and all that 13:46 stuff and your mom at that point didn't know but starts to 13:51 find that stuff? - yeah. - I bet she freaked out? 13:54 Yeah she freaked out, she found out that I was sneaking 13:59 out with an older guy, which was the fiancé person. 14:04 She threatened to call the cops on him, but I threw the 14:09 phone so she didn't do anything about it. 14:11 I started hitting her because I didn't want like him to 14:15 get into trouble, I didn't want to be in trouble so she. 14:19 - he was over 18? - yeah and she knew there was 14:21 something wrong with him and like me too because 14:25 she could see it, but my dad didn't want to believe that 14:28 there was something wrong with me because my parents 14:31 were never drug addicts or alcoholics. 14:33 Like my mom was a straight A student all through high 14:37 school and college and everything. 14:39 So they didn't want to believe that I was like that. 14:43 - right, because for them it was like what happened? 14:46 - yeah. - how come we didn't see any of this kind of 14:49 stuff? So they are trying to stop you from seeing him? 14:51 When did they find out the online stuff? 14:53 They found that out five days before I came to Teen Challenge. 15:00 Okay they are just saying enough we got to get some help. 15:03 Did they call everywhere? 15:05 How did they find Teen Challenge?. 15:08 There was a Teen Challenge head come to my church before 15:13 and I happened to be there for one of them and it was 15:18 a boys home in Pennsylvania that closed recently but my mom 15:23 was looking at it and like getting information, 15:27 but I didn't think it was for me. 15:29 Did you know that I know that they are looking at 15:32 sending me here, I know that is on their mind? 15:36 I had no idea. - you had no idea? 15:39 It just blindsided you? - will they told me three or 15:41 four days before I came and I thought they were kidding, 15:44 I thought they were trying to scare me out of everything 15:46 I was doing so I played it off. 15:49 Like okay, whatever, you can send me away, big deal. 15:52 But they were kind of serious. - yeah, yeah. 15:55 Now how did they get you there? 15:59 My dad woke me up at six o'clock because I live in 16:03 Pennsylvania, and he was like you are going to Teen 16:08 Challenge today, and I was like no I'm not. 16:10 I had went out before that night and was drinking and 16:15 whatever, my aunt was at my house but like she let 16:19 me go out, - so you are kind of hung over saying what? 16:23 I'm not going anywhere. - my parents don't drink a lot 16:26 but they do have alcohol in the house so it's not like 16:30 I can't get a hold of it. 16:31 There was a point where they did lock up everything, 16:34 like prescriptions and alcohol. - right. 16:38 So he says you are going? The fight is on? 16:42 I was like I am not going and my dad left the room because 16:46 he thought maybe she needs to sleep a little bit. 16:48 So I decided to go into my bathroom and lock myself in 16:52 there, I really didn't lock the door because I wasn't in 16:55 the right state of mind, but I thought I did. 16:58 So my dad was like Nicole you need to come out now. 17:01 I was like no, you are not going to make me leave. 17:04 So then he kind of opened the door. 17:06 - you're like oh man! - like I really thought he was 17:10 great it was like you opened this door, how did you do 17:13 that? - because were you on, had you taken some acid? 17:17 Oh no, not that time, but I really felt like he was 17:22 - magic somehow, it's magical. 17:24 But he like came in and I could see the pain in my dad's 17:29 face and he was crying, I don't see my parents cry a lot 17:33 because they never cried in front of us that much. 17:37 He was like you need to go so you can either look like 17:41 a scrub and go or you can take a shower. 17:43 I was like all right so I took a shower and then my mom. 17:48 - you know what I think is cool about you Nicole? 17:50 Even through all this craziness, and all of this stuff, 17:53 is that you really do love your family, you know what 17:56 I mean, you saw the pain in your brothers face and the 17:59 trauma, you saw the pain in your dad's eyes and it was 18:02 like underneath all of that stuff that was what 18:05 you were looking for, does somebody see me, - um hmmm! 18:09 That is awesome, so you took a shower. 18:11 I took a shower - out in the car? 18:14 Well my mom thought I was going to run away at some point 18:16 between me walking out of the door and me getting into the 18:20 car that was 2 feet away, so she police escorted me into 18:23 my own car and then she child locked the doors which was 18:27 really smart because I don't know why but at the first 18:30 stop light I tried to get out the car. 18:35 But I don't know where was going to try to go or anything. 18:39 So five hours later, I didn't know where was going because 18:43 they didn't tell me, but I would wake up in between rides 18:48 and just be like well you guys can turn around now because 18:52 I got the joke and I wouldn't do anything again. 18:54 - I'm scared, alright I'll be good. 18:57 Then I would fall asleep and that I would wake up and just 19:00 start yelling at them, so they were like you just need to 19:04 go and then five hours later we drove up to Teen Challenge 19:08 and I got out of the car and shook Apryl's hand. 19:11 So you get out of the car and you go into Teen Challenge, 19:15 are you trying to play it off like I'm okay? 19:18 Are you going in screaming? People come in all kinds of 19:22 different ways, for you what was it like to get there? 19:26 I was more of a like a headstrong person, like if I'm 19:30 going to do this, I'm going to take my own bags in and look 19:33 like I can handle myself, so I did, I took my own bags in and 19:37 shook her hand and walked in like there is no problem. 19:41 So okay I'm here, let's do this. 19:43 So now this is my favorite part, the honeymoon period 19:48 doesn't last for a long time. 19:50 So what was that like for you the first few days? 19:54 When did you decide that I am actually going to do the 19:58 program? - Oh wow, my first few days I really didn't 20:02 know what was going on, like I really didn't, I hadn't 20:05 been to a rehab before especially like Teen Challenge. 20:09 So I was like, I really didn't know what the place was. 20:11 - you have a lot of rules. - it's like this place is 20:14 crazy. - they took your cell phone? - yeah. 20:17 I can't go online, no Face Book, no My Space, no anything. 20:23 Because my mom told me they had computers there and they 20:28 did when I came in for school they use computers, but by 20:33 the time I was coming in they used books so I got books 20:36 and I figured if they gave me a computer I could hack 20:39 into that because I was really good with technology. 20:43 But they didn't give me that opportunity thank God. 20:46 Yeah, - but the first few days I didn't like it of course. 20:51 When you wake up you do what they tell you and I was one 20:54 of those people that likes to wake up when I want to 20:58 and do what I want to throughout the day. 21:00 - you did that most of your life? - yeah. 21:02 You know I took care of myself what do you mean get up 21:06 and make my bed? - yeah. You know! 21:08 But I think I had a struggle throughout the whole program 21:12 with leaving because I just didn't want to stay there. 21:17 But I think the point where I really knew I needed to stay 21:22 was 11 months into the program. - 11 months. - yeah. 21:26 So that took a long time. - yeah. - so what happened 21:31 that all of a sudden you thought, okay I get it? 21:37 For one I know that the drugs and alcohol leave our body, 21:39 do you know what I mean? I start dealing with that. 21:42 During the program you deal with your anger. - um hmmm. 21:45 So you have people who are really helping 21:48 you to look at what was underlying all that stuff. 21:52 Where is your anger was coming from. 21:54 What is going on with you. So that takes a process. 21:58 So during that first 11 months you are looking at a lot 22:01 of things besides going to school and making friends and 22:05 reconnecting with people, but what happened? 22:08 What do you think it looked like when you finally said, 22:13 I think I'm going to do this? 22:16 I was on a home pass, and when you hit 10 months you get 22:21 to go home every month for five days to like kind of 22:24 get settled in with your family again. 22:27 So I was on a home pass and I told my parents in some 22:31 letters before that I don't think I want to do this anymore. 22:34 But my parents were like, they saw where I was and how 22:38 much I had changed and they were like you're going to 22:42 do it no matter what. 22:43 But I thought maybe this time I could change their mind and 22:46 I really thought. I was sitting on the couch 22:50 - because they are feeling like they're getting their 22:51 little girl back. - yeah. 22:53 - and that is what they want. 22:55 Yeah, so I was sitting on the couch and I was explaining 22:59 my frustrations towards the program and them and why 23:03 I should be able to leave and where I would go and what 23:06 I would do for school and I would have this all set. 23:09 But then my dad said, you need to go pray about it because 23:14 I accepted Christ like my fifth month in the program. 23:17 - what was that like? 23:20 I was at a youth rally with all the girls and we just did 23:25 one of our dramas and a guy came and spoke and he was 23:29 like if you feel you have any burdens on you why don't 23:33 you come up to the front and just let them all go? 23:37 I didn't want to go up at first, but then another girl 23:40 pulled me and she was like were going up together. 23:43 So we went up together and I just started crying, 23:45 I had no idea why I was crying at all. 23:48 And then a lady came over and she started praying for me 23:51 and she said, yell out every- thing you ever did in your 23:54 whole life and let God have it. 23:56 So I started screaming like all this stuff, horrible 23:59 things, these kids around me were probably looking at me 24:03 like I was crazy, but I felt it all like one by one just 24:07 being pulled right off of me. - Amen. 24:09 I felt like set free. - because you know sometimes 24:13 we have to do that, we have to say I can't carry this anymore. 24:16 Our heart becomes flesh again and that is where the tears 24:19 just come flooding out. - Yeah! 24:21 I wish I had been there, I would have just been praying 24:25 for you like crazy, you know. 24:28 So you accept Christ, does your anger, because you threw 24:33 all that out, did that change? Did you feel a change? 24:38 Yeah, in the program I really didn't know why, I think 24:42 it's God's peace over me all the whole time, but it wasn't like 24:45 I had any random freak outs the whole time. 24:48 There was times well I would yell at the staff but most of 24:53 the time I kept it in line and it really surprised me too 24:58 now I look back and I was here and I didn't like yell or 25:02 smash things at all. 25:03 So now 11 months, at about 11 months you decide you're 25:10 actually going to do the program? - yeah. 25:12 I'm actually going to change my life? - Um hmmm. 25:18 Woo hoo. I love that. So from that point on what's 25:23 different? Well my home pass thing happened and my dad 25:29 told me to go pray and I went my room and found a 25:31 bracelet that says, "never give up" on it. 25:33 Like I was just looking up and saying this is really great 25:41 God, thanks for the sign that I need to go back. 25:44 So I came back willingly, like I knew that was God 25:47 telling me you need to finish this. 25:49 Like finish something for your life that you have never 25:52 finished anything before. 25:53 So I came back and I still had struggles, because you 25:57 know there are times where you do stupid things and get 26:00 consequences for them, but I took responsibility 26:04 for it, my life just throughout the whole program 26:10 has changed my way of thinking. 26:11 Like my way, like the love of my parents, I thought my parents 26:16 wouldn't change while I was here at all, but my parents totally 26:20 did a 360. - in what way? - they show we so much attention 26:24 now. - so they got it, they heard you? - yeah. 26:27 Every past they would listen to me and sit there and cry 26:31 with me and I never had that before so we are 26:34 closer, like my mom is my best friend now. 26:37 That is incredible, so what's really, and I want to just 26:42 say to people especially when they have young kids, 26:45 because when you have your children you know that they 26:47 need your time. Do you know what I mean? - yeah. 26:49 You can work like crazy but if you lose your children, 26:53 if you lose your family what does work actually mean? 26:56 Because you think I'm doing this for my family, no! 27:00 Your family wants you, they need you. 27:02 So now you are getting that, you really are getting that. 27:06 I'm hoping that thousands of parents hear what we are 27:10 saying right now, thousands of parents look at their 27:13 little kids and say when is the last time I just sat on 27:16 the floor and played with them? 27:17 If they actually make those choices where nobody feels 27:20 lost like you felt lost, but now you are getting all of 27:23 that back, I bet they are thrilled. - yeah. - yeah. 27:27 And I can tell you love them and how is your brother 27:31 doing? - we were always close even throughout my whole 27:35 drug use and drinking and all that stuff. 27:38 He actually kind of saw some of that when I was doing it. 27:41 But he understands now, that he can't do that stuff. 27:45 - like he got it? - yeah, he can't be like I was. 27:50 I am stronger now to the point where I can sit down with 27:54 him and be like Noah you need to be good, he was like my 27:59 best friend too and I love him so much. 28:02 So you really got your family back? - yeah. 28:05 I'm sure that even at Teen Challenge you have learned to 28:09 do friendships without drugs. - yeah. - without the 28:12 sexual stuff, without the relationship, the twists in the 28:15 relationship. So when I was at Teen Challenge and 28:20 I talked about is anybody wanting to do ministry and 28:26 you raised your hand, is it people that have anger issues 28:31 that you want to work with? 28:32 Or what kind of person do you think I just want to help? 28:36 People with issues in general, like I know we all have 28:40 our own issues, but just anybody like I can help and 28:44 she'll love to or anything like that. 28:46 Especially like children in Africa who don't have parents, 28:50 I feel really called to do that. - because they're totally 28:53 abandoned? - yeah, and Israel I felt a calling to go to 28:56 Israel since my second month in the program. 28:59 - let's go, no I'm serious. You're like I don't know 29:06 that she might be serious. 29:08 I want to say thanks for being on the program. 29:10 Next time you see us we will be in Israel. 29:12 To me what I want you to hear even with Nicole's story 29:17 is her journey into drugs was that really need to be 29:22 loved, need to just fit in and know that somebody sees her 29:26 and cares about her and coming out of that her healing 29:31 is that somebody sees and cares about her and she 29:34 gets her family back, she gets her life back and now 29:36 she wants to tell somebody else that. I love that. 29:38 We are going to be right back, stay with us and I want 29:41 to bring Apryl. back with us so she can say a few things 29:44 about even Nicole's journey and maybe say 29:48 a few things to you. 29:49 So we will be right back, stay with us! |
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