Participants: Steve Wohlberg (Host), Mike Carducci, Wayne Blakely
Series Code: COT
Program Code: COT000013
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00:09 Are you or someone that you love
00:11 struggling with same sex attraction? 00:14 And are you looking for answers? 00:17 If so don't move, 00:18 you've just got to watch this last edition of Coming Out. 01:09 Welcome to part 13 of a 13 part series 01:13 called Coming Out, 01:14 dealing with very important issues 01:16 that you need to know, that we all need to know, 01:18 that the world needs to understand 01:20 based on the Bible 01:22 and based on the message of the love of Jesus Christ. 01:25 We have covered so much ground in the last 12 programs 01:28 and we've decided to put this all together 01:30 at the very end with a program called Help Me. 01:34 Because lot of people are looking for help. 01:37 I need help in my life. You need help in your life. 01:39 There is a verse in the Bible in Psalm 46:1 which says that, 01:47 "God is our refuge and our strength 01:50 and a very present help in time of trouble." 01:55 God has helped me, He has helped so many people 01:57 and He wants to help you 01:59 and one of the ways that He helps people 02:01 is through other people, 02:03 and so we're going to focus on some resources 02:05 that you need to know 02:07 that will be very valuable for you. 02:09 And so you might want to grab a pen or pencil or your laptop, 02:13 get in front of your laptop if you want to start typing 02:15 or some of you might have voice recognition apps on your phone, 02:19 you can just talk into your phone. 02:21 But the point is to get ready to take some notes. 02:24 And if you don't have any notes 02:25 and if you just don't want to do that 02:27 you can always get the DVD 02:28 because all the information will be there. 02:31 I'm here again with, Mike Carducci, 02:33 and Wayne Blakely. 02:35 They are two of the five cofounders 02:37 of Coming Out Ministries 02:39 and we want to look to them and see 02:41 what they've got as far as resources to help people 02:44 that are struggling with same sex attraction 02:47 and multiple issues that we've been 02:50 thoughtfully and openly and honestly 02:52 discussing for the last 12 programs. 02:55 So, gentleman, again it's been great 02:58 and thank you for being with me and with us. 03:02 All of us, there's a lot of people 03:03 that have been watching this and will be watching 03:06 and looking to you for resources. 03:08 I would like to start with an email 03:12 that I received not too long ago, 03:17 that really touched my heart. 03:19 And I won't say who the person was who wrote this. 03:23 But anyway it says, "Dear, Pastor Steve, 03:26 just this past week my daughter revealed to me 03:30 that she is in love with another woman. 03:33 She left the man she has lived with 03:36 and now she is in a relationship 03:37 with this woman. 03:39 Can you direct me to some source of help 03:43 to understand this situation? 03:46 I'm very sad over this 03:47 but I have assured my daughter 03:50 that my love for her is the same. 03:52 Her early years she grew up in the strong Christian home 03:55 when she was, and he mentions her age 03:58 when she was little girl. 03:59 Her mother left and she grew up in various homes 04:03 none of which were good. 04:05 I was powerless because her mother had custody. 04:09 But I stayed true to God 04:11 and I tried to set a good example. 04:14 Then he goes on and talks about how this little girl, 04:16 she grow up in and she was even as a teenager 04:19 I'm assuming she was very active in serving the Lord. 04:23 She was going door to door selling books about Jesus 04:26 and then he says and now this. 04:28 Do you have any suggestions for me? 04:31 And then he gives his name. 04:33 You know, when I read that I thought wow. 04:37 You know, what would I do? 04:38 How would I feel if it was my daughter or my son? 04:42 And there's lot of people out there 04:44 that are struggling with this. 04:45 Not just people that are going through their own issues 04:47 but the parents who are trying to figure out 04:51 what do I do to relate to my child. 04:55 So I want to look to you, 04:57 both of you to give us resources 05:01 that people need and you've got a lot of them. 05:04 So, Wayne, why don't you just start out with, 05:07 share what's on your heart. 05:08 Well first, Steve, I just want to say thank you very much 05:12 for this incredible opportunity 05:18 and what we've found over these past several days 05:23 of filming here is that you're on the same page 05:26 as just we're and that's this page-- 05:28 Yeah, the Bible. 05:29 The Bible and so what we share today 05:32 and what we want to help people see today 05:34 is that God has all the answers 05:36 so that's the number one resource. 05:39 When I grew, there weren't anybody, 05:41 there weren't any resources 05:43 to tell me how to deal with my feelings 05:46 and that's what is driving a lot of people 05:48 to make decisions like the one that you just read. 05:50 That's why in a marriage you might leave the partners 05:54 because if you stuff your feelings 05:56 your whole life you get, 05:57 you get tired at some point of stuffing 06:00 and you just finally come out and say 06:01 that's it I'm gay I'm out of here. 06:03 But if we have resources today 06:05 that help us understand God's word that would really, 06:09 we believe that's really helpful. 06:11 So number one, I would say that that we're available, 06:16 we're so very available to share with you our testimony 06:21 either collectively or individually. 06:24 Revelation 12:11 says that they overcame him, 06:28 the enemy by the word of their testimony 06:30 and by the blood of the lamb. 06:32 And so we can go in, 06:33 you probably have been sparked with a few more questions 06:37 as you've watched these individual programs 06:40 and we're available to come 06:42 and to go more in depth on this topic of freedom-- 06:46 And that applies to you and Mike and Pastor Ron as well 06:49 who is not here right now but in spirit he is. 06:51 That's right. 06:52 He's available too for presentations. 06:53 Yeah, the very next resource is this series 06:58 that you're watching right now, 07:00 it will be available for purchase. 07:02 So the Coming Out series is going to be a great resource 07:06 and we'd love for you to share it with your pastors, 07:08 share it with your friends, 07:11 people that you care about. 07:14 You know, we, one of the books that you used in 07:17 and you'll talk about a little bit later is 07:19 The Gay Gospel? by Joe Dallas, 07:22 and I would just like to share that he has also written, 07:25 actually he has written profusely another great book 07:28 it's called "The Complete Christian Guide 07:30 to Understanding Homosexuality" 07:33 and that is by Joe Dallas again. 07:36 We also have some other DVDs 07:39 that are available on our website. 07:41 And what is your website? 07:42 It's comingoutministries.org. 07:44 Comingoutministries.org. Right. 07:47 One of the sets is called the Gay Puzzle, 07:50 Loving All God's Children. 07:52 There are six DVDs in here that cover 18 programs. 07:58 We breakout and we talk about various things 08:00 with regards to Christian homosexuality, 08:03 Life with God Today, The Download Culture. 08:07 So even a lot of things that may be, 08:08 we didn't even talk about during this series. 08:11 Another DVD set is called Coming Out... Really. 08:15 And this was a series of interviews 08:18 that was done in Australia with a young man Daniel Laredo 08:23 who is part of By Beholding His Love 08:25 which I'll be talking about here 08:26 in a couple of more minutes. 08:28 And so this again is about redemption from homosexuality. 08:31 Why were we gay? 08:34 And how did we find our way out of being gay. 08:37 Good. Great. 08:41 Mike Carducci has a website, his individual ministry, 08:45 under Coming Out Ministries, 08:46 we've three individual ministries, 08:50 Mike's is called Exceed 08:52 and his website is exceedinglory.org 08:56 and I have a website called Know His Love, 09:00 that's my personal individual ministry 09:03 which is at knowhislove.org. 09:05 I've written a number of articles for publications, 09:09 those are all available on that website 09:11 and have a blog on that website 09:13 again these DVDs are available there as well. 09:16 So the three of you, Pastor Ron, 09:17 and the two of you have your own websites, 09:20 your own ministries, your own resources. 09:23 But you've come together under the umbrella of Coming Out. 09:27 And the website again 09:28 for comingoutministries.org is that it? 09:30 That is it. Yes. 09:32 Okay, it's easy to find on the internet 09:33 if people just do a search Coming Out Ministries. 09:36 I found it a number of times click there I am. 09:38 Yeah. Right. 09:40 Two of the cofounders that were not present here 09:45 were Virna and Lisa Santos 09:47 and they have a ministry that's called By Beholding His Love. 09:51 So that's the whole five of you. 09:52 It's the Santos sisters and the three, the three men. 09:55 So two women, three men coming together, good. 09:58 Now here is the interesting thing about that, 10:01 is that we can talk when we go out 10:05 and we speak about homosexuality, 10:08 we can talk even about lesbianism. 10:11 But to give a much better view on that 10:14 to really speak from the female point of view 10:17 it's probably important to speak to women 10:20 because there's a kind of a different rout 10:22 sometimes to recognize that once gay 10:25 or the experiences they have 10:27 even while being gay that a guy probably doesn't always cover. 10:32 That is, would be more effective for a woman to cover. 10:36 So there are similarities. 10:38 Right, and something else to add is 10:40 Lisa and Virna are sisters 10:41 they grew up in the same house. 10:43 And yet both girls have entirely different, 10:46 you know, roads to travel 10:48 in the area of their lesbian lifestyle. 10:51 One was very covert you know, 10:53 she kind of hid everything that was going on 10:55 and the other one was very over marching in gay pipe race 10:59 and being very active in the gay lifestyle, so what's-- 11:02 I read Lisa's testimony couple of nights ago 11:04 and it was very, very moving. 11:05 Yes, yes both of them have powerful testimony. 11:07 And had a daughter 11:09 Virna Santos had a daughter with her same sex partner. 11:12 So today as she has chosen Jesus Christ and to follow Him, 11:17 there's still the daughter to be concerned about to 11:19 so that's interesting that they share the testimony about how, 11:23 what is life like today 11:24 and what is happening with the child 11:26 that's part of this. 11:28 So it's amazing. 11:29 Yeah, I've said this before that I wish 11:32 that we would had a female, female voice in this series 11:36 but even though we haven't, 11:37 a lot of the principles are still same 11:38 but they're not all the same because men, 11:40 men and women are quite different. 11:42 And you know, women can be mysterious 11:44 and I'm still learning about my lovely wife. 11:47 Not sure. 11:48 You know, she is sometime a mystery to me 11:50 but she is precious. 11:51 And so anyway it's very, 11:53 it's good that we are sharing 11:56 not only that there are resources 11:58 specifically for men, from men 12:00 but that we want to cap this off with the fact 12:04 that there are women out there 12:06 that other women can go to 12:09 and learn things that they need and are helpful to them. 12:14 So I'm glad for that. 12:15 We need both genders to make this-- 12:17 Right. Right. 12:18 Completely the image of God. 12:19 All right. 12:20 With modern technology today and for those of you 12:23 who are wanting instant media, 12:26 you can go to YouTube 12:27 and you can look up, Mike Carducci, 12:30 you can look up Wayne Blakely, 12:31 and we have a presentations that are there, 12:34 that are pretty easy to locate 12:36 and there are multiple ones. 12:37 So any one of them that you click on 12:39 will probably you know, lead you to another one. 12:42 Great. Great. Those are the -- 12:44 Lot of people go to YouTube these days. 12:45 Yeah. Oh yeah. 12:46 I do a lot, I'm searching for something, 12:48 I want to find you know, a talk or a subject, 12:51 whether health subject or a Bible subject 12:53 or looking for a person, I often go to YouTube 12:55 and it's amazing. 12:58 The valuable information is there, 12:59 although of course you've to pick and choose 13:01 because there's a lot junk out there, 13:03 but there is good, there are good things 13:06 if you, if you search. 13:07 Right. Right. 13:08 And, Mike, I know you've got a number of resources too. 13:11 Okay, I'll start off with Ron's. 13:13 Pastor Ron Woolsey, he's been a pastor for over 20 years 13:16 and in addition to the Bible which he, 13:18 well, we all agree is first and foremost in our walk with God. 13:22 But also he talks about this book here, 13:24 Steps to Christ and this, it might be, 13:27 I agree totally with Ron, this is totally my first aid kit. 13:32 If I'm in any kind of despair or not understanding something, 13:36 I go immediately to this and this reconnects me back to God, 13:40 it's a quick easy little pocket reference 13:42 you can throw in your car, in your bag you can, 13:45 I give it out all the time 13:46 because it's been a huge support and resource for me. 13:50 That book is available from White Horse Media, we have it. 13:52 Yes. 13:53 And I love that book too. 13:55 It's been translated in over a hundred languages, 13:57 that little book on the basics of the Christian life. 14:00 You know, I have such days were I've been discouraged 14:03 and I've come home, 14:04 it's actually available online video too, 14:06 you can search it that way. 14:07 I've actually played a chapter 7 14:10 in this book about discipleship when I'm falling asleep 14:14 and it just has beautiful things to be said. 14:16 Right. Wonderful. 14:17 Well, my favorite quote, "Do not wait to feel 14:18 that you're made whole. 14:20 But say I believe it, it is so not because I feel it 14:23 but because God has promised." 14:24 Amen. A powerful vow. 14:26 And also, Ron has a book that he wrote in a pseudonym 14:30 it's called, That Kind Can Never Change! Can They? 14:33 And it's by Victor J. Adamson, 14:35 which is a pen name for Pastor Ron Woolsey. 14:38 I read that book, it's fabulous. 14:40 Yes, it's also available in Spanish. 14:42 And we'll have that available as well 14:44 on whitehorsemedia.com, our website. 14:45 Okay. 14:47 Also he has a website 14:48 that's also on our comingoutministries.org 14:52 and his ministry is www.victorjadamson.com. 14:58 Also he has many books 15:00 about two books worth on that website 15:02 that can help addressing the gay issue. 15:05 Also he has, Exploding the Gay Myth, by Ron Woolsey, 15:08 it's a testimony also in CD. 15:11 Compassion Without Compromise, 15:13 which is a four part DVD special 15:15 that he did with Shawn Boonstra for It Is Written television. 15:21 All right in some of the resources 15:23 that have really helped me, 15:24 I remember coming out of the gay lifestyle, 15:27 I wasn't interested in giving up my boyfriend or my identity. 15:30 But what happen is I started to, 15:32 to watch these testimonies of other men 15:34 that have come out of homosexuality 15:36 and one of the testimonies 15:37 that really impacted me the most was probably 15:40 a man named Sy Rogers, and just watching his testimony 15:43 I couldn't believe the power of God in his life 15:46 and that was when I first started to realize 15:49 that if God could help him, that God could help me as well. 15:52 And so Sy Rogers has incredible videos 15:55 and things that have helped me 15:57 that I've also gone to some of his resources 15:59 and you can go to 16:00 syrogers.com/ sy_rogers_videos.html 16:07 for any resources there as well. 16:09 Or they can probably do a search. 16:10 Okay. Sy Rogers and find him. 16:11 Oh, good, but that saving you a lot of time 16:13 than the rest of these. 16:14 He's available on YouTube too. 16:15 Right. Right. There's some incredible-- 16:17 Sy Rogers. Yes, that's right. 16:19 Excellent, excellent. 16:22 Also the GYC, Generation of Youth for Christ 2014, 16:26 if you go to gycweb.org and look up 16:30 knowing the difference it takes you right to 16:32 the Gay Puzzle which was a presentation 16:34 that Coming Out Ministries did just in January. 16:38 Also Power to Cope radio, 16:42 you can look it up on the internet 16:44 and they also have three interviews, 16:46 three part interviews 16:47 that I did with this lady in Key West, Florida, 16:49 that had this radio program and I'm talking, 16:52 I shared some things with her 16:53 that I've never shared with anybody else before. 16:56 It was amazing, the interview process. 16:59 Also two years ago I was interviewed by old man 17:03 new man lifestyle conflicts part one and part two, 17:07 you can look that up on the internet as well. 17:10 And so those are some of the-- 17:12 And your track, you've a track. 17:13 Oh thank you, thank you, Steve. 17:14 Share. Oh, yes-- 17:17 This is my track, a track that I put out is called 17:20 homosexuality and Holiness, one man's journey. 17:22 And basically what it is, 17:23 it's a testimony track which you can give out, 17:26 it also has our resources on the back 17:27 and how to get in contact with us 17:29 and we sell these on my website for, 17:33 you can get a pack of them 17:34 if you want to have them for your church, 17:35 we have them available. 17:37 And, Mike, for those who don't have internet access, 17:39 what's your phone number? 17:40 What's the phone number of your main website 17:42 of Coming Out Ministries? 17:44 For Coming Out Ministries, we don't have a phone number. 17:46 Okay, just give us phone number, 17:47 somebody can call, they don't, they're not online. 17:49 I usually. Yeah. 17:52 Because I'm the detailed man. 17:54 Okay. 17:55 You can reach any one of us, 17:56 I'll pass the word along, 17:57 even if you just want one of the three, I promise. 18:00 Okay. 360-936-8514. 18:06 Got it, okay, now you mention the Pure Passion website-- 18:08 I heard about that just cover that quickly, 18:10 and then share some stories 18:11 about people that have been helped. 18:13 Sure, Pure Passion VIMEO 18:15 and for some reason you've to put in the VIMEO 18:18 after Pure Passion. 18:19 But they have over 200 testimonies and stories 18:24 and presentations about what God's intimacy is like 18:28 and what I do is, I'll just turn them on 18:30 and I'll just go through the house and do you know, 18:33 whatever I'm doing and just listen to them, 18:35 they're powerful testimonies about all kinds of sexual sin. 18:39 As a matter of fact I choose the acronym name Exceed 18:41 because it's not limited, the homosexuality, 18:44 we're not just battling with one area of sexuality. 18:48 Exceed stands for excellence in Christ 18:50 through evangelism to the erotically defiled. 18:53 And because my issue wasn't just limited to homosexuality, 18:56 we speak on, on premarital sex, abortion, 19:01 we talk about adultery, 19:05 addiction to pornography, masturbation. 19:07 And so basically it includes every thing 19:10 from seeking from grade schools to universities, 19:13 pastors' meetings, singles retreats, 19:15 men's ministries. 19:17 And so again Pure Passion also addresses all kinds of that 19:21 and it's a powerful tool that I use in my presentations as well 19:25 Okay, I like to hear just a couple of quick, quick stories. 19:28 Okay. 19:29 Of how peoples lives 19:30 have been impacted by your ministry. 19:33 This is actually in our opinion very sad. 19:36 At the GYC just a two months ago, 19:39 we got this note, this handwritten note 19:41 that was handed in and it says, 19:43 I know this, I'm supposed to be anonymous, 19:45 but if you want to get in contact me, 19:47 if there is any hope my name is, 19:49 and he gives his information and he goes on to say, 19:52 what do you do? 19:53 When you've tried all the suggestions for overcoming 19:56 but you just can't seem to shake it. 19:58 What do you do when you feel hopeless? 20:00 What do you do when you feel rejected by your family? 20:03 What do you do when you fell so discouraged 20:05 that you never want to try again? 20:07 What if you've tried counseling and it didn't work? 20:10 What if you've done claming scripture 20:11 and memorizing but it seems futile? 20:14 What if you want to live, 20:16 but kill yourself at the same time? 20:18 What if you already have attempted? 20:21 What do you do when it's all you can think about? 20:24 What do you deal with being molested? 20:26 How do you deal with being molested? 20:28 How could I ever be changed and happy? 20:31 I've tried everything. 20:32 This is the last time I'll ever try again. 20:36 And I'm telling you when Pastor Ron received this note 20:38 and he shared it with us, we were all moved 20:40 because each one of us can identify 20:43 with exactly what this person, this young man was feeling. 20:46 What was so powerful is we had, 20:48 we had people that were homosexual, lesbian 20:51 and bisexual in our group. 20:53 What was so powerful, 20:54 we had mothers and fathers who were terrified 20:57 that somebody might see them in our conferencing. 20:58 Yet they came to us anonymously asking 21:01 what can we do for our children. 21:03 And so for this young man, he counseled with Pastor Ron 21:06 for a couple of days during our, our presentations 21:10 and I believed that Pastor Ron has been in touch with him 21:14 and with his family members to find out how he's doing 21:16 because again we all identified with absolutely every statement 21:20 that was made and I believe that God has much more for us 21:23 than we can possibly imagine. 21:25 And if this person was encouraged, 21:26 even some of the homosexual people 21:29 in our presentations talked about, 21:31 how we talked about the love of God and connected 21:34 and felt that this was a valuable ministry to present 21:38 You know, another valuable resource and we communicate 21:42 and have for quite a while now 21:44 with individual people who struggle, 21:46 who want to get in touch with us through Facebook. 21:49 So you can lookup Michael James Carducci 21:52 Junior. Junior. 21:54 Right. 21:55 Wayne Blakely, Ron Woolsey, 21:58, 21:59 enter into a conversation with us, 22:00 we're willing to, to point you to resources to give you help, 22:05 give you strength each and every day as you face this 22:07 because we know that enemy fights against us 22:11 and people think that we've to have a fall you know, 22:14 it's like there is an analogy given that, you know, 22:18 if you drop the soap you're not out of the shower 22:20 and so it's just wonderful 22:22 to be able to put back in contact with people 22:25 who will lift you up, pray for you and encourage you. 22:28 Also in Facebook there is, 22:31 those who struggle with homosexuality, 22:34 do you remember that? 22:35 The exact name of the forum. 22:36 Yes. 22:37 I'm sorry, I don't remember exactly. 22:38 Well, we get some incredible testimonies on there as well. 22:41 But if you Facebook us, 22:42 we can definitely put you in touch with, with that forum. 22:44 Our community. That's right, that's right. 22:46 And you've both told me that you and, 22:50 that you've really, 22:51 you wish that these resources were available when you were-- 22:56 It would have helped us so much. 22:57 Coming out, trying to come out. Yes. 22:58 But this is really what people need, you know, 23:00 and now God has, God has I mean 23:03 there're so many things here 23:05 and God has provided help to people. 23:09 Right. Help is on its way. 23:10 They are saying, help me God please help me-- 23:11 How many times do I pray that prayer? 23:13 You know, the tide has changed a little bit because you know, 23:15 you're getting, you're getting so much about 23:16 what liberation looks like. 23:18 But I can tell you that in growing up you know, 23:21 there was hardly a day that I came home from school 23:23 that I wasn't sobbing. 23:25 You know, I would stand in front of the mirror 23:27 and punch myself in the mirror and say, 23:28 why God did you make me a boy 23:30 when I was supposed to be a girl? 23:32 My parents didn't know what to do, 23:34 the church didn't know what to do. 23:36 But today God has opened up people's eyes 23:38 and so and there, you know, it's just wonderful 23:41 that He has given us this testimony. 23:43 He has given us a way out and He has put us in touch 23:46 not only with being a resource but giving resources to people 23:51 to help them find their way. 23:52 Powerful. Wonderful. 23:53 Well, we've got a couple of minutes left. 23:54 Is there anything else you want to, you want to share, 23:58 just concluding remarks and then I'll go back to the Bible 24:01 and share one final verse. 24:03 One thing that really sit out when you were reading 24:05 Revelation 12:11 is the rest of the verse talks about 24:08 how they overcame him by the blood of the lamb 24:10 and awarded their testimony. 24:11 And what impact it does was to think that my dirty ugly story 24:15 has the power to help people overcome the enemy, 24:18 but the verse goes on and says, and they love not their lives 24:21 even to the death and what I realizes 24:23 is that we all have a testimony and whatever that is 24:27 that what we found is the more we tell that story, 24:29 the more we testify of how Jesus Christ has delivered us. 24:32 I'm telling you the more healing I get, 24:34 the more affirmation I get from the people 24:37 that I feared the most and I'm just telling you that 24:40 that if you can be brave enough 24:42 that there is power in your testimony 24:43 and every one has one. 24:45 You know, there is not all that much joy 24:47 in sharing your dirty laundry. 24:49 No. 24:50 We should avoid, we try to make this a clean series 24:52 and so we need to avoid going into too much but-- 24:55 Right but, but-- 24:56 Enough that people can relate to. 24:57 We're willing to be transparent, 24:59 we're willing to stand up in front of people 25:01 and let them know that we connect with where they, 25:05 where they are, where they've been, 25:06 and where God can lead them and take them to. 25:09 Amen. Amen. That's right. 25:10 We all have our stories and, you know, 25:13 it's amazing how God can take, 25:16 can take a wounded messed up ruined life 25:20 and rebuilt that life and then use the darkness 25:25 that you've been in to actually become a testimony 25:28 to bring light to somebody else. 25:30 Amazing. 25:32 I never thought that God would take me from the gutter 25:33 and put me in the pulpit. 25:35 You know, He took Peter, Peter denied Jesus, 25:37 he denied Him three times and what a bitter thing 25:40 for him to do and yet that testimony is in the Bible 25:42 and people have read that testimony 25:44 and it has helped them to realize 25:46 that if I have denied Jesus like Peter, 25:49 there's still hope for me. 25:51 Amen. 25:52 And also to read that and say, I don't want to do that, 25:54 you know, Lord help me not to do that, 25:55 so God can take our sin 25:58 and He's just so big and so marvelous, 26:00 He can even take our sin and He can turn it around 26:03 and He can use it to be a blessing to others. 26:07 Well, I would like to finish up this series with a Bible verse 26:12 in the book of Mathew 26:15 Chapter 11, Mathew 11:28. 26:20 These are the words of Jesus Christ. 26:22 Now we want Jesus to be the center of everything we do. 26:24 Amen. 26:25 And this verse is Jesus' appeal to us, 26:28 He's calling us and it's an invitation. 26:32 Jesus said, "Come to Me, all you who are weary 26:37 and burdened, and I will give you rest." 26:42 We believe we know that Jesus Christ has real power 26:47 that His word has power, His love has power, 26:51 His death on the cross for our sins has power, 26:53 His resurrection has power, His Holy Spirit has power 26:57 and whatever you're struggling with, 26:58 whatever your battles, your difficulties, 27:00 however, much you've fallen in the sin, 27:02 we just want you to know that Jesus through this program, 27:05 through us, through this book, through His word, 27:09 He's reaching out to you and He's saying, 27:11 come to me, come to me, I can help you, I can forgive you. 27:15 I can change your heart, I can change your life, 27:17 I can give you peace that no one else can give 27:20 but Jesus Christ. 27:22 Come to Him now, 27:23 so He can help you get ready for heaven. 27:28 If you would like to order the 13 part Coming Out series 27:30 for $34.95 plus shipping, call 1-800-782-4253 27:36 or write to White Horse Media, 27:37 PO Box 1139, Newport, Washington, 99156. 27:42 Pastor Ron Woolsey, Dwayne Blakely and Mike Carducci 27:44 are each available to conduct a seminar in your area. 27:47 To schedule a speaking engagement 27:49 contact Coming Out Ministries by calling 360-936-8514 27:54 or visit comingoutministries.org. |
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