Carter Report, The

More Hot Potatoes: What Do Mormons Believe?

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00:01 I want to give you just the warmest welcome today,
00:03 to our viewers around the world
00:05 across this great land of United States
00:07 down into Australia,
00:09 up there in Canada right around the world.
00:11 And also to the home audience
00:15 because you folks look so good today.
00:18 I want to thank you for coming.
00:20 The topic today is "More Hot Potatoes."
00:25 And we have some potatoes here today
00:30 and I'd like to think that they were hot
00:33 but anyhow we have some hot potatoes here today.
00:37 We had a program entitled,
00:39 "Hot Potatoes" some months ago.
00:41 It was so successful,
00:43 we decided that we'd have another program
00:46 and we would call it "More Hot Potatoes."
00:50 I'm going to take today a number of telephone calls
00:54 and we have somebody who's going to give us
00:57 a question right now on the telephone.
01:01 Hi Pastor Carter, this is Monica.
01:04 I was baptized 27 years ago
01:07 in the name of Jesus
01:08 into the church of the living God.
01:11 Would you suggest I get re-baptized
01:13 in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost?
01:17 Monica, thank you so much for the question today.
01:20 Let me read it again,
01:23 27 years ago I was baptized in the name of Jesus
01:26 into the church of the living God.
01:28 Would you suggest I get re-baptized
01:30 in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost?
01:34 Monica, baptism doesn't save.
01:39 Do I believe in baptizing people,
01:41 of course I do.
01:43 But the right of baptism doesn't save.
01:48 I believe that when a person is saved,
01:50 he ought to be baptized.
01:52 Would you come with me in the scriptures,
01:54 my friends and the home audience?
01:56 Over here to 1 Corinthians 1
01:59 and we have a great home audience here today
02:03 in our church at 100 West Duarte road,
02:06 Arcadia, California
02:07 which is the best church you can ever attend.
02:11 1 Corinthians 1:17, Paul says,
02:14 "For Christ did not send me to baptize,
02:17 but to preach the gospel-- not with words of human wisdom,
02:22 lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power."
02:25 So he said Christ didn't send him to baptize
02:30 but to preach the gospel.
02:32 But then in verse 16 he says,
02:34 "Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas,
02:38 beyond that, I don't remember
02:39 if I baptized anyone else."
02:43 So baptism is not the most important thing,
02:46 the most important thing is your relationship to Christ.
02:51 The Bible does teach on occasions re-baptisms.
02:56 If you turn to the Book of Acts 19:3-5,
03:02 it tells about how some people were baptized
03:05 into John the Baptist baptism
03:09 but later on they were baptized in the name of the Jesus
03:13 when they got more light from God.
03:16 Now if you come over now to Mathew 28:19, 20
03:21 you have our Lord telling us
03:23 how people ought to get baptize.
03:25 Mathew 28:19, 20
03:29 "When Jesus came to them and said,
03:31 'All authority in heaven
03:33 and on earth has been given to me.
03:35 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations,
03:38 baptizing them in the name of the Father
03:41 and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
03:44 teaching them to observe all things.
03:47 A person ought to be baptized
03:50 in the name of the blessed Trinity.
03:55 And what you need to do,
03:56 Monica is make this a matter of prayer
03:58 and ask God to reveal to you His will
04:02 so that you will do what He wants you to do.
04:06 Let's have the next question, please.
04:09 Hi Pastor Carter and my name is Cynthia
04:11 and I have a question for you.
04:13 I know that God knows what I'm thinking.
04:15 Can Satan also read our minds?
04:19 Thank you so much, Cynthia.
04:21 I was reading in Time Magazine
04:22 and Newsweek that scientist are working
04:25 on a machine to read people's minds.
04:28 That's a little bit scary, isn't it?
04:32 I don't think Satan can read our minds
04:35 but he's super smart.
04:38 And often he knows what we're thinking by the way we look
04:43 and by what we're doing.
04:46 But there's one thing that is very, very clear in the Bible
04:50 and that is this, "God can read our minds."
04:53 Would you come over here to John 2:25,
04:57 God knows everything I've thought,
05:00 He knows what I'm thinking now.
05:03 Sitting here in church, He knows what you're thinking.
05:06 He knows what I'm thinking.
05:09 John 2:25, it says of Jesus,
05:13 "He did not need man's testimony about man,
05:17 for He knew what was in a man."
05:21 The Bible tells me God knows everything about us
05:25 and He loves us just the same.
05:29 Now there's another person on the line.
05:31 Hello Pastor Carter. My name is Robert.
05:33 And I have a question for you.
05:35 It is now 2012 and most of us know
05:38 that it is another election year in the United States.
05:42 We often hear Christians talking about whether the church
05:45 should have more influence in the government,
05:47 especially in regards
05:49 to moral and social issues of today.
05:52 Could you please give me the biblical view
05:54 on this very important issue of church and state.
05:57 Thanks, Pastor Carter.
05:59 Bob, that is indeed a hot potato.
06:05 Jesus said--I think you know the text render the Caesar,
06:09 the things that be Caesar's,
06:11 and to God the things that be God's.
06:14 There is a legitimate fear for the church
06:19 and there is a fear for the state of the government.
06:25 And both sides shouldn't cross over.
06:29 That is why America believes
06:32 in the separation of church and state.
06:36 What happens when the church controls the state?
06:40 Well, if you go back in history
06:41 and study the story of the dark ages.
06:44 When the Roman church controls the state,
06:47 you had millions and millions of people put to death.
06:51 Whenever the church dictates to the state,
06:55 you have religious persecution.
06:57 What happens when the state controls the church?
07:01 The state ought to stay out of the churches backyard.
07:06 The state has got no right here in this building,
07:08 no right at all.
07:09 But you go to Russia
07:11 and when the state controls the church
07:14 you had some 15 million people
07:17 put to death for all sorts of reasons.
07:20 And so-- and most people
07:22 don't seem to be aware of these things,
07:24 most people don't seem to realize
07:26 the danger of church and state mingling together.
07:32 And so render the Caesar the things that be Caesar's.
07:36 What happens when the state controls the church?
07:39 Communist Russia, Nazi Germany.
07:44 How then should the church influence society?
07:49 What is the best way now, you know,
07:50 I know that people in this country.
07:53 Many millions of people believe
07:55 that the church ought to be loving Congress all the time.
07:59 And better still the church got to have its representatives
08:02 in Congress or the White House
08:04 to impose upon us their own viewpoints.
08:10 Some people believe
08:11 that we need to get back to the keeping of Sunday.
08:15 And they pray earnestly that one day
08:17 we're going to get a president
08:18 and this president is going to say,
08:20 we're going to bring in Sunday keeping
08:22 or Congress is going to pass it.
08:24 When that happens,
08:25 you have the situation of antichrist
08:27 because that's what it is.
08:29 When church and state are joined together
08:32 you have the essence of antichrist.
08:34 How should the church influence society?
08:36 Let me tell you, it's very simple.
08:39 Not by having lobbyist in Washington
08:42 but by doing what the church is being called to do,
08:45 that is to preach the gospel.
08:47 The church ought to get out of the church buildings
08:49 and go out into the world and to preach the gospel,
08:52 that's what Jesus did.
08:55 Jesus was not a lobbyist with the Roman government.
08:57 That's what Paul did,
08:59 that's what all the apostles did.
09:00 They went into the world and they preached the gospel.
09:03 That is why this ministry believes in worldwide evangelism
09:07 and by the grace of God this is why we do it.
09:10 And so we can change society
09:13 for the good by preaching the gospel
09:16 because the gospel uplifts society.
09:19 Wherever the gospel goes you have the greatest freedom
09:23 where woman are the most respected,
09:25 where the Bible and Christ go.
09:29 Now what about a person who is a politician
09:31 and he believes in Christ and the gospel?
09:34 Remember Wilber, Wilberforce, wherever a person is,
09:39 he should try to influence Congress
09:42 or whatever to make the world a better place.
09:46 But I should not endeavor who force upon you
09:50 my own religious convictions.
09:54 Because my religious convictions
09:57 belong to me and the state has got no right to tell me
10:01 what I ought to think, how I ought to worship,
10:05 that is between me and God. Amen.
10:09 And so Jesus our Lord said,
10:11 "Render to Caesar the things that be Caesar's,
10:15 and to God the things that be God's."
10:18 I wish Christians were more interested in evangelism
10:22 than they are in elections, don't you?
10:27 Going to take another question.
10:29 Hello, Pastor Carter, this is Ron calling.
10:33 In studying my Bible I read that it tells us
10:36 that flesh and blood will not enter the kingdom of heaven.
10:39 Could you please tell me what this means?
10:42 Ron, very perceptive question, very good.
10:47 I am going to turn to a text, I want the home audience
10:49 to turn with me to please 1 Corinthians 15:50.
10:57 It's the chapter on the State of the Dead
11:01 and the Resurrection.
11:03 So 1 Corinthians 15:50, "I declare to you, brothers,
11:10 that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God."
11:13 Now this explains it,
11:15 "Nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable."
11:19 It is talking about our corrupt fallen
11:23 sinful natures, fallen humanity.
11:26 Remember Ron, on one occasion Jesus said to Saint Peter,
11:32 when Peter made the great confession,
11:34 "You are the Christ, the son of the living God."
11:38 Jesus said, "Peter, flesh and blood
11:41 does not reveal this unto you."
11:44 In other words, frail, sinful humanity
11:48 has not revealed this unto you.
11:50 When the Bible says flesh and blood
11:52 should not inherit the kingdom of God.
11:55 It is talking about corrupt, sinful, perishable humanity.
12:01 But one day God is going to take this corrupt,
12:03 perishable, sinful humanity and God is going to make it new
12:08 and we are going to live forever in the kingdom of God. Amen.
12:11 You see that's what we believe,
12:12 that's part of the good news of the gospel.
12:18 Somebody else is on the phone, I believe.
12:21 Good morning, Pastor Carter.
12:22 My name is Michelle and I have a question for you.
12:25 A friend tells me the Bible writers were on drugs
12:27 when they wrote down their vision.
12:29 This has confused and discouraged me.
12:31 What do you think?
12:34 Thank you, Michelle.
12:36 Seems to me that your friend does a lot of bad drugs.
12:39 I guess you have to be on drugs
12:41 to make such a statement, wouldn't you?
12:46 This is not the first time I've been asked this.
12:48 Some folks came to me and they said,
12:50 "We were told by a friend
12:52 the Bible was written by people who were on drugs."
12:57 It hardly warrants an answer.
12:59 I would say people who say things like that
13:01 have never read the Holy Scriptures.
13:04 Try reading Isaiah 40,
13:08 "Those who wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength.
13:12 They shall mount up on wings like eagles.
13:14 They shall run and not be grow weary.
13:16 They shall walk and not faint."
13:18 The most sublime language in the world.
13:22 This book is the greatest masterpiece
13:26 the world has ever seen.
13:30 Even people who are non-believers,
13:32 who don't even believe in God they read the Bible
13:35 because of the glory of the language.
13:40 Go read Matthew 5, the Beatitudes.
13:43 When I was in Russia once
13:44 when the communists were ruling the place,
13:46 a man said to me, "Then Bible is just nonsense, foolishness."
13:49 I took out my Bible and I read to him the Beatitude.
13:52 He said, "I've never read anything so--
13:55 heard anything so wonderful."
13:57 I gave him my own Bible.
14:01 I would say my friend, there are some questions
14:04 and even though it's good question
14:06 and you are repeating somebody
14:10 but nobody with a rational mind
14:14 would ever postulate the absurd theory
14:18 that this book was written
14:20 by people who were having hallucinations
14:24 because they were on drugs.
14:28 I think that only a person
14:30 who is having hallucinations himself
14:34 would make such an absurd statement.
14:39 It is the living word of the living God.
14:43 Now I am going to invite Hugo Yin
14:48 who is not a stranger to this church
14:52 and Hugo is going to come now.
14:54 He is going to come and bless us with the song.
14:58 Would you please welcome our friend, Hugo.
15:19 Who can say for certain
15:24 Maybe you're still here
15:27 I feel you all around me
15:31 Your memories so clear
15:35 Deep in the stillness
15:39 I can hear you speak
15:43 You're still an inspiration
15:47 Can it be
15:50 That you are my
15:56 forever love
15:59 And you are watching
16:01 over me from up above
16:08 Fly me up to where you are
16:13 Beyond the distant star
16:19 I wish upon tonight
16:22 To see you smile
16:27 If only for awhile
16:30 To know you're there
16:34 A breath away's not far
16:38 To where you are
16:48 Are you gently sleeping
16:52 Here inside my dream?
16:55 And isn't faith believing?
16:59 All power can't be seen
17:03 As my heart holds you
17:07 Just one beat away
17:11 I cherish all you gave me
17:15 Everyday
17:17 For you are my
17:21 forever love
17:26 Watching me from up above
17:33 And I believe
17:37 that angels breathe
17:41 And that love will live on
17:44 And never leave
17:49 Fly me up to where you are
17:55 Beyond the distant star
18:00 I wish upon tonight
18:03 To see you smile
18:08 If only for awhile
18:11 To know you're there
18:16 A breath away's not far
18:19 To where you are
18:26 I know you're there
18:31 A breath away's not far
18:35 To where you are
18:53 Later on today, I am going to answer the question.
18:57 What do our friends, the Mormons believe?
19:01 That will be a little later on
19:03 but now I am going to take this telephone call.
19:06 Hi Pastor Carter, my name is Shawna Taylor
19:09 and I really want to say I appreciate your sermons
19:11 every weekday, really are very uplifting for me.
19:14 But I have a question for you today, Pastor Carter.
19:16 My husband was brought up
19:17 in a very strict legalistic church
19:20 and when he was old enough he left
19:22 and he has not look back.
19:23 However, he now refuses to take any of our children
19:27 or send them to Sabbath school.
19:28 He said that they can make their own decision
19:30 when they grow up about religion.
19:32 So my question to you Pastor Carter,
19:34 what do you think of his attitude?
19:38 Let me read this back to you,
19:42 "My husband was brought up
19:43 in a very strict legalistic church
19:45 and when he was old enough he left,
19:47 has not look back He now refuses to take
19:50 or send our children to Sabbath school
19:52 and says, they can make their own decision
19:54 when they grow up about religion.
19:57 What do you think of his attitude?"
20:00 You can be sure of one thing.
20:03 If you don't train your children now
20:04 when they are little to love Jesus,
20:07 they are not going to make a decision
20:09 later on to follow Christ.
20:12 Some people say, well, you know,
20:14 I am just going to let them believe what they like now.
20:17 When they grow up they are giong to be free
20:19 to make their own decision.
20:20 No, they have already made it.
20:22 You made it for them. You made it for them.
20:25 I want you to come over here to a text
20:27 in the Bible to Proverbs 22:6,
20:30 Book of Proverbs 22:6 it is.
20:35 Proverbs 22:6, a wise man said,
20:42 "Train a child in the way he should go,
20:46 and when he is old he will not turn away from it."
20:49 There's an old saying by another wise man.
20:54 It says, "As the twig is bent
20:59 so the tree is inclined."
21:03 If you want a little child to grow up to worship God,
21:07 don't leave until that little child is a grown adult
21:12 but teach that little child,
21:14 Jesus loves me this I know for the Bible tells me so.
21:21 Do it now.
21:22 Parents have got a tremendous responsibility.
21:28 Somebody else on the line.
21:30 Hello, Pastor Carter, my name is Steven.
21:33 I have question for you sir.
21:35 My question is why is the word Lord in the Bible
21:39 sometimes used in capital letter
21:42 and other times it's used in lower case?
21:45 An example on the capital
21:50 and the lower case Luke 10:27.
21:53 Thank you. Thank you.
21:56 Why is it that you find somewhere in the scriptures
21:59 when it says Lord, it's all in caps
22:01 and in other places in the New Testament
22:04 it's big L then small letters for Lord?
22:09 It's because the Old Testament is written in Hebrew
22:12 and the New Testament is written in Greek.
22:16 Now when it's talking about the self-existent almighty God,
22:21 it uses the word-- come over here,
22:24 put this on the blackboard this morning.
22:27 It may be a little hard for you to follow it
22:29 because I made it a little bit fancy
22:32 but here you got the actual name for the almighty God
22:36 and in the Old Testament that is Yahweh, which is Yhwh.
22:43 This is the most sacred word in all of creation.
22:48 The word that is used for Lord in the New Testament
22:51 is the Greek word Kurios and basically it means,
22:56 oh sir or as my Spanish friends would say senior.
23:02 Did I said it right? Senior.
23:06 And so in Proverbs and other parts of the Bible
23:09 when it refers to the almighty God,
23:11 the self-existent God, He is called Yahweh
23:15 and that is translated LORD in big caps.
23:21 Some translations it's actually translated Yahweh,
23:26 other translations it's translated
23:28 not so accurately by the term or the name Jehovah
23:33 and then when you come to the New Testament
23:36 you don't have the word Yahweh
23:37 of course, you have Kurios and it is translated Lord.
23:41 It's because of the difference of the languages.
23:45 Is somebody else waiting on the line there?
23:49 Hi, Pastor Carter, my name is Skip.
23:51 I am calling in because I really enjoy
23:55 your teaching straight from the Bible.
23:57 I have a question for you.
23:59 I am dating a woman who is a Moslem
24:01 and I am a Christian.
24:02 I belong to the Seventh-day Adventist church.
24:05 Do you think our marriage will be successful?
24:09 Skip, you are asking me as a pastor a question.
24:15 I imagine you want an honest answer
24:18 not a political one.
24:22 I believe that Christians ought to marry Christians
24:25 and Moslems ought to marry Moslems.
24:28 People say, but the religions are compatible.
24:31 No, there's no close relationship
24:36 between the Christian faith and the Moslem faith.
24:40 Now I appreciate and respect Moslems
24:44 but the Moslem religion
24:46 is incompatible with Christianity.
24:50 I want you to come over here in the New Testament
24:53 over here Skip to John 8:53 and onwards.
25:00 John 8:53 and onwards.
25:07 The Bible says or the Jews said,
25:10 "Are you greater than our father Abraham?
25:12 He died, and so did the prophets.
25:14 Who do you think you are?"
25:16 Verse 56, "Your father Abraham
25:19 rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day,
25:21 he saw it and was glad.'
25:24 'You are not yet fifty years old,'
25:26 the Jews said to him, 'and you have seen Abraham!'
25:29 'I tell you the truth,'
25:31 Jesus answered, 'before Abraham was born--"
25:37 what does He say, "I am.
25:41 At this, they picked up stones to stone Him,
25:44 but Jesus hid Himself,
25:46 slipping away from the temple grounds."
25:49 Jesus claims to be Yahweh Elohim.
25:55 He is the almighty Son of God.
25:59 Mohammed, the Moslems believed was a great prophet
26:03 but Mohammed didn't claim to be the son of God.
26:07 The Moslems do not believe that Jesus is the Son of God.
26:12 They believe that he is a prophet.
26:15 But the Moslems do not believe in the divinity of Christ
26:20 or in His atoning sacrifice.
26:25 And therefore there is a great gulf
26:28 between the Moslem faith and the Christian faith.
26:32 I don't think you ought to,
26:33 if you are a Christian you should not marry a Moslem,
26:37 I am telling you.
26:38 Look at Chapter 8:24,
26:41 Jesus said, "I told you that you would die in your sins,
26:46 if you do not believe that I am the one
26:48 I claim to be, you will indeed die in your sins."
26:55 My friend, this is pretty strong.
26:58 Jesus-- and now people say, well, Jesus was bigotry.
27:01 No, no, He was the Son of God.
27:04 He was the Son of God, so don't pick on Jesus.
27:07 Jesus said to the Jews,
27:09 if you don't believe that I am who I am
27:14 then you are going to die in your sins.
27:17 And if you are a Christian and if you marry a Moslem,
27:20 you are marrying a person who does not believe
27:23 that Jesus is the Son of God.
27:26 You are going to have problems.
27:29 And so is the person who is going to marry you.
27:31 Come over here to 2 Corinthians 6.
27:35 2 Corinthians 6:14 and onwards.
27:38 Now you may say to me,
27:40 well, it's going to be different with me.
27:42 No, it's not my friend. It's not going to be different.
27:46 And if you go ahead and have that marriage
27:48 I don't believe that God is going to bless that marriage.
27:52 Sorry to tell you that but I don't believe
27:55 that God can bless that marriage,
27:58 Christians ought to marry Christians.
28:00 And when I say Christians ought to marry Christians,
28:03 don't just marry any person who professes to be a Christian,
28:07 marry a person who is a genuine born again believer.
28:11 2 Corinthians 6:14 and onwards,
28:14 "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers.
28:18 For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common?
28:22 Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?"
28:24 Now I am not saying that Moslem faith is wickedness
28:27 but it is incompatible with our faith.
28:31 "What fellowship can light have with darkness?
28:33 What harmony is there between Christ and Belial?
28:36 What does a believer in Christ
28:40 have in common with an unbeliever?"
28:43 And then you come down to verse 17,
28:45 "Therefore come out from them and be separate, says the Lord."
28:51 So if you are asking my honest counsel,
28:55 I would say, go to the Word of God.
28:59 As Billy Graham said, if you are keeping company
29:02 with a non-believer, drop him and drop him fast.
29:07 That's my advice to you.
29:11 And we got somebody else with the question now, please.
29:15 Hello, Pastor Carter, thanks for taking my call.
29:18 My name is Bob and I've been reading my Bible
29:22 and I ran across the name of a fellow
29:25 and I don't know who he is.
29:29 They call him Michael
29:30 and they say he is the archangel.
29:33 And I am wondering who is this Michael
29:36 and who is this archangel?
29:39 Good question Bob.
29:42 Jesus is archangel.
29:44 Jesus is the self-existent God
29:47 but Jesus is the leader of the angels
29:52 and in Daniel 12, we are not going to turn to the text.
29:54 It says, "Michael the great prince
29:57 who stands for God's people."
29:58 He stands up, so He is the great prince for God's people.
30:02 And then in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17,
30:08 it says when Jesus comes back,
30:10 He comes back with a voice of the archangel
30:14 and with the trumpet call of God.
30:16 Jesus I believe is Michael
30:21 and He is the leader of the angels
30:26 but not an angel Himself. Next question.
30:29 Hello, Pastor Carter. My name is Denis.
30:32 My wife and I were recently mounding over a question
30:36 we had related to Cain.
30:38 Cain married a woman from Nod
30:40 and they had a child Enoch
30:42 but what and where was this tribe of Nod?
30:46 And other then Enoch
30:47 where does this tribe fit into the big scheme of things?
30:50 A very, very big hot potato.
30:54 That's the biggest hot potato we've dealt with so far.
30:57 That potato is about as big as that potato.
31:00 It's a big one.
31:02 The land of Nod was told in the Book of Genesis 4
31:05 and I think verse 16, was east of Eden.
31:09 That would make it somewhere over near Iraq, Pakistan.
31:16 The Garden of Eden was in the middle east
31:19 and the Bible tell us that there was the land of Nod.
31:23 We are not told a great deal about it.
31:25 Denis, let me say this to you my friend.
31:28 The Bible doesn't give us
31:30 all the answers about everything.
31:33 Doesn't give us all the answers.
31:36 We are not expected to have all the answers.
31:39 Why was the Bible written?
31:40 To make me smart on every subject? No.
31:43 So that I will believe in Jesus Christ
31:46 and I will be saved.
31:48 That's the reason the Bible was given.
31:50 Here's another question now.
31:53 Hello, Pastor Carter. My name is Blake.
31:56 I really enjoy your preaching
31:58 and I have a question for you today.
32:00 Professor Richard Dawkins teaches that God is a delusion
32:04 and Christianity and Judaism have committed
32:06 terrible crimes against humanity.
32:08 Why are so many today turning to atheism
32:12 and is there an answer?
32:14 Professor Dawkins has made some points
32:18 but none of them are valid.
32:20 He is the world's greatest atheist
32:24 and I believe the position
32:25 he takes is intellectually lacking.
32:30 I don't believe it's respectable
32:32 for a person to say there's no God.
32:34 How on earth will he know, has he been everywhere?
32:36 Has he seen everything? Of course not.
32:38 So how can he say that?
32:40 He says that Christians and Jews have done some terrible things.
32:44 Yes, they have.
32:46 Think what the Church of Rome did in the Dark Ages
32:50 and other people who profess to believe in God
32:53 have done some bad things.
32:55 That does not make God bad.
32:58 To say that you are not going to believe in God
33:00 because some so called Christians or Jews
33:06 have done things is illogical and foolish.
33:11 But let me remind
33:12 the great professor of this truth
33:15 that nobody has persecuted more than the atheists.
33:19 I've been to Russia and Ukraine and I have visited places
33:24 where millions of people were butchered
33:27 by people who believe in the same ideas
33:30 as the great professor Dawkins
33:33 who believe that the highest law is the survival of the fittest.
33:38 So what's good for the goose Professor Dawkins
33:43 is good for the gander.
33:45 Nobody has persecuted more than the atheists.
33:49 Now, why do I believe in God?
33:52 I can give you a million reasons
33:54 but let me-- I don't have time today,
33:56 I can take a whole discourse on this but listen,
34:00 one moment after creation
34:01 that scientists call the big bang.
34:04 One millisecond, there were four forces
34:07 that came into being in the universe.
34:09 They haven't been there before.
34:11 Gravity, the strong nuclear force,
34:13 the weak nuclear force so forth.
34:16 There are four big forces.
34:17 We now know that if those four forces had been out of sync
34:23 by one quadrillionth of one quadrillionth
34:26 by one quadrillionth of one quadrillionth,
34:29 a one quadrillionth of one percent
34:31 the universe would have imploded or exploded.
34:36 And that is why there's hardly a cosmologist
34:41 left in the world today who does not believe in God
34:46 because of the evidence.
34:47 I believe in God not because of blind faith,
34:51 I believe in God because of the overwhelming evidence.
34:56 And there's another evidence I would give to you today
34:58 and that is this the evidence of Christ.
35:01 You only got to read His writings
35:03 and you will find they are the most sublime teachings
35:06 in the history of the world.
35:09 Why do many people become atheists?
35:12 Well, some perhaps because they are confused
35:15 and others I think because it is easier.
35:21 No God, you can do what you like.
35:24 Beverly showed me a video last night on two great doctors
35:30 who went to India to work with the lepers.
35:34 Dr. Brand, Dr. Brand.
35:37 You see them touching the lepers,
35:40 touching their sores.
35:41 Working for the down cast.
35:45 You don't see too many atheists doing it, do you?
35:49 No, you don't but the followers of Christ.
35:54 Now we are going to take another break
35:55 and then I am going to talk about
35:57 what do the Mormons believes.
35:59 So stay with us. Hugo, come and sing to us.
36:03 Would you please welcome him?
36:23 My faithful Father,
36:31 enduring Friend
36:36 Your tender mercy's
36:39 like a river with no end
36:46 It overwhelms me,
36:53 covers my sin
36:58 Each time I come into Your presence
37:05 I stand in wonder once again
37:13 Your grace still amazes me
37:21 Your love is still a mystery
37:29 Each day
37:33 I fall on my knees
37:38 'Cause Your grace still amazes me
37:46 Your grace still amazes me
38:07 Oh precious Savior,
38:15 You make me whole
38:20 You are the Author
38:23 and the Healer of my soul
38:30 What can I give You,
38:37 Lord, what can I say
38:42 I know I've nothing to repay You
38:49 Only to offer You
38:53 my praise
38:58 Your grace still amazes me
39:05 Your love is still a mystery
39:12 Each day
39:16 I fall on my knees
39:21 'Cause Your grace still amazes me
39:29 Your grace still amazes me
39:38 It's wider
39:42 It's stronger, it's higher
39:50 It's deeper, it's wider
39:57 It's stronger, it's higher
40:03 Than anything my eyes can see
40:10 Your grace still amazes me
40:17 Your love is still a mystery
40:24 Each day
40:28 I fall on my knees
40:33 'Cause Your grace still amazes me
40:41 Your grace
40:43 still amazes me
41:14 This program is entitled, "Hot potatoes."
41:18 During the segment I am going to answer the question.
41:21 What do our friends, the Mormons really believe?
41:24 But firstly, I got somebody on the line.
41:28 Hi, Pastor Carter, my name is Susan
41:31 and I am a healthcare professional.
41:33 I would like to know how the devil
41:36 can make a person physically ill.
41:39 Ellen White talked about this
41:40 and I have heard missionaries talk about it.
41:43 I know we cannot ascribe all illness to the devil
41:46 but can we have any understanding
41:48 of this phenomenon? Thank you.
41:52 We do believe as Christians in evil spirits.
41:58 You want to give evil spirit a wide birth.
42:03 Don't have anything to do with religion,
42:08 it's got anything to do with spiritism.
42:11 So yes, there are evil spirits.
42:14 I believe they can harass a believer
42:18 but they cannot posses him.
42:21 The devil can't share the same kitchen
42:24 with the creator.
42:26 He can't come inside you.
42:27 The devil can't come inside you if you have God there.
42:32 He can posses an unbeliever
42:34 who has played around with the devil.
42:38 I met people who have played around with the devil
42:41 and I believe they have become demon possessed.
42:45 Don't-- don't try it.
42:48 Some say, I am going to try it.
42:50 Don't, don't, don't try it.
42:52 It's better to play with lightning.
42:56 So I believe that he can harass people
42:59 but having said all of that,
43:02 almost all sickness is the result of our lifestyles.
43:08 Don't we like the person who said,
43:10 the devil made me to it.
43:14 It's not usually the devil to blame
43:17 if we suffer from some disease.
43:19 It's because of our lifestyle.
43:22 The Bible says whatever man sows that shall he reap.
43:26 If a person lives and obeys God's laws,
43:31 he is going to be blessed.
43:32 If a person lives to disobey God's laws,
43:37 he will suffer because of the consequences.
43:42 Let's have another question, please on the phone.
43:47 Hi, Pastor Carter. My name is Karen.
43:50 I have a question for you. What is blasphemy of the spirit?
43:57 A very, very good question.
43:59 It should concern particularly people who go to church
44:03 because the best place
44:04 to blaspheme the Holy Spirit is in a church.
44:10 It can be dangerous to go to church
44:13 if you have a spiritful preacher.
44:14 Come over here with me to Matthew 12:31.
44:19 Matthew 12:31, and Jesus, our Lord is talking.
44:26 Matthew 12:31, and Karen,
44:31 I want you to listen carefully
44:32 as we read the words of Jesus here.
44:34 Matthew 12:31, Jesus said,
44:37 "And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy
44:40 will be forgiven men,
44:42 but the blasphemy against the Spirit
44:45 will not be forgiven."
44:48 We should read verse 32, "Anyone who speaks a word
44:51 against the Son of Man will be forgiven,
44:54 but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit
44:57 will not be forgiven,
44:58 either in this age or in the age to come."
45:02 I want you to think about this.
45:05 Jesus said the most dangerous thing
45:10 that a person can do is to sin against the Holy Spirit.
45:16 If a person sin against the Holy Spirit
45:20 and blasphemes him, the person cannot be saved.
45:25 Pretty serious.
45:28 Now the unpardonable sin is not murder,
45:32 it's not adultery, it's not fornication,
45:34 it's not stealing because if you come to God
45:37 and confess any of those sins,
45:39 God will forgive you.
45:41 But God can't forgive you
45:42 for the sin against the Holy Spirit.
45:46 How does it work?
45:47 Well the Holy Spirit is the third person of the Godhead
45:49 and the Holy Spirit comes, he's send from God
45:52 and he convicts us of sin.
45:57 How does he do this?
45:58 Well, maybe I am sitting here in church
46:01 and the preacher is anointed by the Holy Spirit
46:04 and he is preaching from the Word of God
46:07 and he is talking about a sin in my life
46:11 and I say, "No, I am not going to do what he says.
46:14 I am not going to do what God says."
46:17 And so as the Holy Spirit speaks to us
46:20 or speaks to that individual, that person hardens his heart.
46:26 It says in the Old Testament in the Book of Genesis,
46:29 "My spirit will not always strive with man."
46:33 The Spirit of God strives with us.
46:37 I've taken meetings
46:38 and I've seen the Spirit of God striving with people.
46:41 As I preached the Word of God,
46:43 I've seen beads of perspiration come out,
46:47 out of person's forehead
46:48 as he struggled with the Spirit of God.
46:51 As I've said, "Would you raise your hand?"
46:55 person is struggling.
47:00 Now this is an important truth,
47:03 every time I say no to God,
47:08 it's easier to say no the next time.
47:13 So if I continue to say no to God
47:15 the time will certainly come
47:18 when the Spirit of God will talk to me with a voice of thunder
47:24 and I won't even hear him
47:26 because I've harden my heart.
47:29 When I was a young minister a few years ago,
47:34 Beverly and I lived next to a railway track.
47:38 At 1 o'clock in the morning
47:40 the Sothern Aurora would come thundering down
47:43 that railway track at Wagga Wagga
47:46 in South, New South Whales.
47:50 The first night we were terrified,
47:52 I thought it was coming through the bedroom.
47:54 The next night it woke us up, the next night--
47:57 but we know, a week or two
48:00 Sothern Aurora would come thundering along--
48:02 we wouldn't even hear it.
48:05 That's what happens with the Spirit of God.
48:08 That is why there are some people
48:09 who come to church year after year
48:12 and the preaching of the Word of God
48:17 because of their reaction hardens their hearts.
48:21 That's why the Bible tells us
48:23 today if you will hear his voice,
48:27 do not harden your heart.
48:29 Nobody here has committed the unpardonable sin
48:32 because if you hope to be saved
48:36 and if you have a desire to be saved
48:38 the Spirit of God has not left you.
48:41 But the message of the Word of God is do it and do it now.
48:47 Another question.
48:50 Hi, Pastor Carter, this is Stephanie.
48:52 Thank you for your wonderful teaching.
48:55 I have a question for you. What do Mormons believe?
49:01 What do the Mormons believe?
49:07 Now folks in this church we do not talk politics.
49:11 Amen. Amen.
49:12 Say it louder. Amen.
49:14 Amen. Yeah.
49:17 But we are dedicated to the preaching of the truth
49:22 and we will never come to the place where we say,
49:25 "Because of political correctness
49:28 we will cease to preach the truth."
49:32 The Mormons have another Bible.
49:36 There it is. It is the Book of Mormon.
49:40 They say it is another scripture about Jesus Christ.
49:46 So they do not believe
49:48 in the protestant principle of Sola Scriptura
49:53 but they believe they have another Bible.
49:58 It starts in 1832
50:01 when some golden plates were found
50:03 containing the record of a man by the name of Mormon
50:08 who was an ancient American as you would expect.
50:13 He told how Jesus visited America
50:18 after the resurrection
50:21 and revealed the truth of God and the true gospel.
50:26 His name was Mormon
50:28 and he wrote it down we are told in this book.
50:31 Joseph Smith, who Mormons believe was a true prophet,
50:37 was visited by the son of Mormon.
50:40 His name was Moroni.
50:43 He was visited by a dead man
50:47 who was still alive.
50:51 People say what's wrong with that?
50:53 Because it is spiritism.
50:57 People say, do you believe he was visited by a person?
51:01 Yes, I believe it.
51:05 But the Bible teaches and I have debated
51:08 with the Mormons and the Mormon bishops.
51:12 They believe that the dead live on.
51:16 They believe in the immortality of the soul.
51:21 I can't believe this book and I don't recommend it to you
51:25 because I believe it came through
51:26 the agency of an unclean spirit.
51:31 Let me read you something here,
51:34 "And now, behold, if Adam had not transgressed
51:36 he would not have fallen,
51:38 but he would have remained in the Garden of Eden.
51:40 And all things which were created
51:42 must have remained in the same state
51:44 in which they were after they were created.
51:47 And they would have had no children, no children.
51:53 Therefore they would have remained
51:54 in a state of innocence, having no joy,
51:57 for they knew no misery.
52:00 Doing no good, for they knew no sin."
52:03 So you can't do good unless you have sin.
52:06 "Adam fell that men might be.
52:14 Adam fell that men might be,
52:16 and men are that they might have joy."
52:20 So Adam had to sin
52:22 before children could come into the world.
52:29 Either you are going to follow the scripture
52:32 which came from the hand of the God
52:33 or you're going to follow the Book of Mormon
52:36 that came from a hand of a dead man.
52:39 Not a dead man but a spirit, an evil spirit.
52:43 The Book of Mormon teaches the immortality of the soul
52:46 and Joseph Smith says in the introduction
52:49 to the Book of Mormon,
52:51 it is the most correct of any book on earth.
52:56 Do they believe the Bible?
52:57 They will say, yes, as it is rightly translated
53:02 but the Book of Mormon is above everything?
53:07 We as Christians believe in Sola Scriptura. Amen.
53:13 And what you can't get for doctrine
53:15 out of the Holy scriptures
53:18 you better leave aside, I tell you.
53:23 Then there was the book, the Pearl of Great Price.
53:30 It perplex to be from the hands of Joseph Smith,
53:34 He receive this and you got all the hieroglyphics
53:37 then he wrote down, well this is Abraham doing,
53:40 this is Abraham doing something else.
53:43 He was safe because nobody understood the hieroglyphics.
53:48 The Pearl Of Great Price,
53:51 archeologists have examined it who knows the hieroglyphics
53:54 and they say it is a complete fraud
53:58 from beginning to end.
54:01 God does nothing in partnership with the devil
54:05 and He does nothing in partnership with lies.
54:11 The religion was started on polygamy.
54:17 You only have to study the history
54:22 and Joseph Smith made the famous statement.
54:24 You better listen to it, don't close your ears.
54:29 "What man is God once was
54:32 and what God is man may become."
54:38 Mormonism which is based on spiritism,
54:42 not on the Bible, is based on the idea
54:45 that what man is God once was
54:48 and what God is man may become.
54:50 Every man, not the women
54:52 but every man, the men get to resurrect the wives.
55:00 But what God is, man may become?
55:04 And every man through the teachings of Mormon
55:08 can become Yahweh Elohim over his own universe.
55:16 I was debating some years ago,
55:18 I don't debate anymore
55:20 because I became a little quieter
55:22 but I was debating with some Morman elders in Australia
55:26 because some of their members were coming to my meetings
55:29 and I was invited to debate with the Mormon bishop
55:35 and I used the Bible.
55:37 And when a Mormon cannot answer from scripture,
55:40 immediately he gives his testimony,
55:41 "I believe in Joseph Smith."
55:43 He believes that is more powerful than anything else,
55:46 the word of his testimony.
55:48 And after they gave the testimony I said,
55:51 "I believe that the Jesus is the Son of God
55:54 and I believe the Book of Mormon
55:55 came from the hand of a evil spirit.
55:58 And I believe in the Bible and the Bible alone."
56:01 And then I started to speak about the State of the Dead.
56:07 And as I spoke the Mormon Elder cried out to the flock,
56:10 put your hands on your ears and all shout.
56:16 And they put their hands on their ears
56:18 and they started to shout.
56:19 He cried out to them,
56:21 "Do not listen to the words
56:23 he is giving you, close your ears."
56:28 And then he cried to some of his fellow bishops,
56:30 "let us take him and throw him outside
56:33 so we don't have to hear the word
56:35 that he is preaching anymore."
56:36 And they took me physically and threw me down the stairs.
56:43 Close your ears.
56:47 Now I have a word to you my friend,
56:49 you better listen and you better listen good.
56:55 Put your faith in Jesus
56:59 and put your faith in the Word of God
57:04 and turn your backs on the works of darkness,
57:11 the works of spiritism for Jesus sake. Amen.
57:18 Amen and amen. Amen.
57:20 And I want to thank you for joining me.
57:24 Send me your hot potatoes.


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