Participants: Pr. John Carter
Series Code: CR
Program Code: CR001216
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00:08 From Arcadia, California, the Carter report
00:10 presents "The Living Word" around the world. 00:18 Hello, and welcome to the program. 00:20 I am James Venegas. 00:21 Today we are dealing with one of the most controversial issues 00:24 of our day, 'Same sex marriage.' 00:28 The president of the United States of America 00:30 has come out recently in support of same sex marriage. 00:33 So it is without much importance that we ask the question. 00:36 What does the Bible say about marriage 00:39 and the homosexual lifestyle today? 00:41 My guest is undoubtedly the most recognized 00:44 evangelist of our time. 00:46 He is the president of the Carter Report, John Carter, 00:49 we will hear what he has to say in just a moment, stay tuned. 00:54 Hello friend, I am John Carter. 00:57 I am here today to tell you the most amazing news. 01:00 I want to thank you firstly in Jesus' name 01:03 for your magnificent support. 01:06 We are on our way to Port Moresby, 01:09 the capital of Papua New Guinea. 01:12 We are going to see the amazing power of God. 01:16 We are going there to preach the everlasting gospel. 01:20 I will be preaching every night 01:21 outdoors in the national stadium. 01:24 The locals tell us we will have over 100,000 people a night, 01:30 some say a 150,000 people. 01:33 A few have said, maybe 200,000 but I want you to know this. 01:39 We go in the name of Christ 01:41 to preach the gospel and to save souls. 01:45 And I am saying today, 01:47 I can't do this without your help. 01:50 I have got to raise right now $500,000 for this great campaign 01:58 that is going to shake an entire nation for God. 02:03 Please be my partner. 02:05 Write to me, John Carter, PO Box 1900, 02:09 Thousand Oaks, California, 91358. 02:13 In Australia, my Aussie friends, please write to Terrigal. 02:17 The address is now appearing on the screen. 02:20 Please stand with me in this tremendous outreach 02:25 to the people of Papua New Guinea. 02:28 We used to talk about mission impossible. 02:34 All of a sudden it has become mission possible. 02:38 This is an opportunity to reach 02:42 an entire nation for the Lord Jesus Christ. 02:45 Please write to me today and I want to say 02:48 to you from my heart to yours, thank you in Jesus' name. 02:56 Pastor Carter, welcome to the program. 02:58 I am glad to be here. 02:59 Now you've known for your candor, 03:02 your passion, your straightforwardness. 03:03 I never knew. And recently, 03:06 the president of the United States 03:08 was quoted to saying this, "I've always been adamant 03:11 that gay and lesbian Americans 03:13 should be treated fairly and equally. 03:15 It is important for me" he says, 03:17 "To go ahead and affirm that I think, 03:19 same sex couples should be able to get married." 03:24 And for me that's an incredible statement 03:25 from a very influential man. 03:27 Firstly, let me ask you. 03:29 What do you think about gay people? 03:32 I think we got to love gay people, 03:34 because they are children of God. 03:38 Treating people badly for whatever reason 03:41 is unchristian and bad. Yes. 03:44 I saw recently or some time ago, there was a gay parade, 03:48 and I think in one of the cities of the United States. 03:52 Okay. And there were 03:53 Christians standing on the sidelines 03:55 with big placards that said, "burn" word "burn" 04:02 and they are doing this in the name of God. 04:05 The Bible tells us that "God so loved that world 04:08 that He gave His only Son. 04:10 So that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, 04:13 but have everlasting life." 04:15 God loves homosexual people. 04:18 He loves lesbians. He loves gay people. 04:22 God loves people and we should love them too. 04:26 Yes, yes. So the president has said that he supports it. 04:30 What does the Bible say about marriage 04:33 and the homosexual lifestyle? 04:35 With all respect to the president, 04:37 I think the president is completely wrong. 04:43 I don't know if I said that plain enough, but- 04:46 Hearing it loud and clear. 04:47 I am a Bible believing Christians, a Christian. 04:52 I am naive enough to believe 04:54 that a Christian believes the Bible. 04:57 And so I believe that the Bible is above 05:00 the constitution of the United States, 05:02 it is above the White House, it is above the Vatican, 05:07 it is above any church organization, 05:10 it is above any committee. 05:12 This is what is called 05:14 the Protestant Principle of Sola Scriptura. 05:18 Yes. Only scripture. 05:20 And so while I love homosexuals, 05:24 I cannot deny what the Bible says. 05:27 Leviticus 20:13, "If a man lies with a man, 05:33 as one lies with a woman, both of them 05:37 have done what is detestable." 05:39 And you can read on because it even gets stronger. 05:44 And then Pastor Venegas, when I turn over here 05:48 to the New Testament, some people say, 05:49 well, that's just the Old Testament 05:52 and we don't go by the Old Testament anymore. 05:55 Well, Jesus did you know. 05:57 And Jesus was the Son of God and the only Bible that Jesus 06:01 used was the Old Testament. 06:03 Romans 1:26 says, "Because of this, 06:09 God gave them over to shameful lusts. 06:13 Even their women exchanged natural sexual 06:17 relations for unnatural ones. 06:20 In the same way, men also abandoned 06:23 natural relations with women and were inflamed 06:27 with lust for one another. 06:29 Men committed indecent acts with other men, 06:33 and received in themselves 06:36 the due penalty for their perversion." 06:39 And that is of course, St. Paul. 06:43 Now you are the pastor of that church and a good pastor. 06:47 Thank you. Not only a good pastor, we like you. 06:50 Thank you. It's always good to like the church pastor. 06:54 You are a pastor now. Yes. 06:56 Now Pastor Venegas. 06:59 It says in the gospels, Jesus says these words, 07:03 in the beginning God made the male and female 07:08 and said for this reason, a man will leave 07:12 his father and his mother and be joint to his wife 07:16 and they shall become one flesh. 07:19 As it has been said, God made Adam and Eve, 07:22 not Adam and Steve and you know that it serves. 07:25 Absolutely. The very term gay marriage is incorrect. 07:29 It's an oxymoron. Two men joined together 07:34 don't have a marriage. 07:37 A marriage is between a man and a woman, 07:39 and I don't say this to insult the gays 07:43 whom I appreciate and I love, I have met them, 07:49 I have talked to them, I've associated with them. 07:52 I find so many of them such beautiful, kind people. 07:58 But I say to them in the fear of God, 08:01 my conscience is bound according to the Word of God. 08:05 Yes. So how is it, just a flowing from that question 08:09 that we are in a Christian nation 08:11 and this president is a Christian president, 08:14 that he could uphold such a view? 08:18 Well, I don't wish to judge the president, 08:21 I am sure he's a good man. Yeah. 08:23 But he certainly not upholding the scriptures. 08:25 In fact he made the comment that you may be aware of, 08:29 that his Christian principles 08:32 let him to make such a declaration. 08:34 Well, because he is saying, you know, 08:36 we ought to love people and we ought to. Yes. 08:38 I have said over and over again in this church 08:42 when I preached here. 08:43 The doors of this church are open 08:46 to homosexuals to any person. 08:48 Jesus loves people. 08:52 And Jesus died for sinners, we all sinners. 08:55 Yes, yes. And some of us and remember this too my friend. 09:00 Jesus taught that the sins of the spirit were worse 09:04 than the sins of the flesh. 09:08 So Jesus said, "The pride of the church people 09:11 is a lot worse than the adulteries 09:14 and the fornications of the prostitutes." 09:18 Boy, you know, you know, 09:20 I'm running for office obviously myself but listen to this. Yeah. 09:24 The president is being guided by his feelings 09:31 and he is not going according to the Word of God, 09:34 that's his problem. Yes. 09:36 So let's bring this down to an individual, 09:38 well, we have viewers that are struggling themselves 09:40 with issues like this one and issues with sin. 09:43 I have a viewer that writes in and says, 09:45 "I sometimes feel that I have committed unpardonable sin. 09:50 Is there any hope for me," this person writes. 09:53 If a person asks that question, 09:57 he or she has not committed the unpardonable sin. 10:01 The people who don't ask it are most likely 10:03 the ones who have or may have. 10:07 Now if you come to Mathew 12:31, 10:14 "So I tell you, every sin and blasphemy 10:17 shall be forgiven men and women." 10:21 Now there's no sin too bad for God. 10:23 That should give hope to every person. 10:25 And the church exists to say, 10:28 that Christ died for the ungodly. Yes. 10:31 But Jesus says, "But the blasphemy 10:33 against the spirit will not be forgiven." 10:37 The unpardonable sin is when we sin away the Spirit of God. 10:43 The Spirit of God is the agent of salvation. 10:47 He comes from God through Christ and he speaks to our hearts. 10:52 Now it's possible to so resist the Holy Spirit of God 10:56 and to say no to God so often that we build 11:01 a barrier around our hearts. Yes. 11:04 And when our hearts are as hard as this table 11:08 and I'm feeling and I'm moving then 11:11 it's a sign for great cause. 11:14 The Bible says, "Grieve not the Holy Spirit of God." 11:17 You can grieve the Spirit of God by your lifestyle 11:21 and by your impenitence and by your hardness 11:25 and the best place of course to commit 11:28 the unpardonable sin is in church. 11:31 That's right. Especially if you got 11:32 a good preacher like you. 11:35 See, if you got a good preacher, 11:36 and he is preaching for his word, 11:38 and he's got the Spirit of God in him, 11:40 then people will be convicted of their sins. 11:43 Yes. If they resist that continually, 11:46 they will harden their hearts and that can lead 11:49 to the unpardonable sin for that person. 11:51 Yes, so what you're saying is this person 11:53 in even wrestling with the guilt. 11:54 Yes, that shows they haven't committed it. 11:56 They haven't gone beyond the point of no return. 11:58 No, no, but they better get back to reading 12:00 their Bibles and repent and start 12:03 going to a good church where Christ is the Lord. 12:06 Absolutely. Now I have another parson 12:08 that writes in, her name is Penina. 12:11 She says, I am a newly baptized Christian. 12:14 My baptism was at your mission in the Solomon Islands, 12:17 she says. Alleluia. 12:18 How can I grow and deepen my spiritual life 12:21 when I face so many temptations? 12:24 Jesus said, quoted in Mathew 4, 12:28 what's her name? Penina. 12:30 What a nice name. Hello, Penina. 12:35 I am so glad that you came to Christ 12:37 in those meetings, in the Solomon Islands. 12:40 God bless you Penina. 12:41 God loves you, so do I, Penina. 12:45 Now Jesus said in Mathew 4, 12:47 "Man shall not live by bread alone, 12:49 but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. 12:54 Yes. Weak, weak, weak insipid Christians own Bibles 12:59 and spend their time on their computers, 13:01 playing computer games 13:03 and watching television. Yes. 13:05 You become what you feed on. 13:07 If you feed on junk, you'll become junk inside your head. 13:12 And a person grows in grace by reading 13:14 the scriptures and by praying and by coming, 13:18 going to church and keeping the Lord stay holy, 13:23 that's the Sabbath. 13:25 And I have another question from another lady Caroline. 13:28 She asks a very similar, very similar question. 13:31 I am sure she is not from the Solomon's 13:32 although but she might be. 13:34 She says, "Will I be saved if I only read my Bible at church?" 13:37 And I guess that's the same thing that you're saying. 13:39 Well, you know, that's sort of a little legalistic attitude, 13:42 God bless her, Caroline is it? Caroline. 13:44 Caroline you ought to read your Bible at church 13:47 but you ought to read it more. 13:50 Do you only eat once a weekend 13:53 after you come home from church, Caroline? 13:57 If you want to live, you got to eat food, you got to drink 14:00 and you got to do it on a regular basis, like every day. 14:03 I read my Bible every day, you know why? 14:05 Because I need to. 14:08 I've been a pastor 50 years. 14:10 Of course, you could never tell by just looking at me, do you? 14:13 But what I am telling you is this. 14:15 I've seen so many people come to Christ 14:19 and I've seen a lot of them losetheir way. 14:21 Yes. And the ones who lose 14:23 their way do so, because of spiritual indolence. 14:28 They say, don't tell me what to do. 14:30 Nobody tells me what to do. 14:32 And they are pretty good at putting their carbs down. 14:35 Yeah. And they think they got 14:36 to do that too, to live and they have to, 14:38 they don't read the scriptures. Yes. 14:41 You need to read the scriptures, 14:42 soak yourself in the scripture. 14:43 Spurgeon, more than a 100 years ago said, 14:47 lean Christians own Bibles and feed on newspapers. 14:50 He said lean Christians own Bibles we say it today. 14:54 Yes. And spend all their 14:55 time on the Internet. 14:57 Or in front of the one-eyed monster who sits in Aberdeen. 15:01 Very sure, very true. 15:03 Now another lady, we have all the ladies 15:05 running at the moment, not sure that's about 15:08 your good looks or not, she says-- 15:10 Well, let's say it is. 15:11 She says and her name is Glennis. 15:13 "I was watching your program recently 15:15 and so many people being baptized, 15:18 it is good to see, you are doing a great job 15:20 of work for God, but why doesn't this happen in Australia 15:25 and of course you're from Australia. 15:26 Why don't we see these things 15:29 happening back home in Australia. 15:32 Okay, I'm going to talk to Glennis. 15:34 Yes. Glennis, better listen 15:36 to this young lady. 15:38 It can happen in Australia, it can happen anywhere 15:41 where people having vision and faith in God. 15:44 The Bible says, about Jesus. 15:46 He did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief. 15:51 And unbelief is found particularly among people 15:56 who look like us in a western world in England, Australia 16:01 and other places, they say, it can't be done. 16:07 Oh it can't be done. 16:10 It's because they don't have faith and if it s done, 16:13 they say, people have said to me when I ran 16:15 in the Sydney Opera House, I had 20,000 people there. 16:17 They said firstly, they won't come. 16:20 Yeah. Then secondly, 16:21 when they came they said, they won't stay. 16:24 So they have no faith in God, 16:27 they do not have a relationship with Christ, 16:31 a meaningful relationship with Christ. 16:34 Let me read you a text out of the Bible here. 16:38 and onwards, 16:42 "And I saw another angel flying in mid air" Kings James Version. 16:47 "In the midst of heaven, and he had the eternal gospel 16:51 to proclaim to those who live on the earth to every nation, 16:55 tribe, and language and people." 16:58 The three angels are seen flying in a midst of heaven, 17:03 that's a worldwide proclamation, 17:05 some people and some religious people, 17:12 would like to keep the angels down 17:14 among the cabbages and the squirrels. 17:18 They have a limited view and understanding 17:22 of what is this talking about. 17:24 God does things in a big way and the message 17:28 is proclaimed in the midst of heaven. 17:31 We are going shortly to run a campaign in a great city. 17:37 They say we will have more than a 100,000 people a night. 17:42 People have said, "It can't be done." 17:44 Well, we have seen it happen. 17:46 We've seen it happen. 17:47 We believe it will happen again, 17:50 but you got to have faith in God. 17:52 And I would say to the people in England or Australia, 17:55 or the United States of America, if it's not happening 17:58 in your town, you were to ask yourself 18:00 a question, what's wrong with me. 18:04 Because for too long I think 18:05 we blamed the atheists and called them. 18:07 Yeah, got nothing to do with it. 18:08 But there's nothing we can do to change. 18:10 I baptized thousands of atheists, 18:12 I baptized tens of thousands of communists, 18:14 even members of the KGB. 18:17 So it all starts with our faith. 18:19 It starts with the church. Yes. 18:22 And too often the church is like the text in-there's a Proverbs 18:28 where there is no vision the people perish. 18:31 People have little vision. 18:33 Remember, the great saying, 18:36 "Attempt great things for God, 18:38 expect great things from God." 18:41 Now we have to pay for these great campaigns ourselves, 18:44 hundreds of thousands, millions. 18:46 People say, "It's impossible." 18:47 No, it's not. Soon as we embark upon 18:50 a great campaign, before as we start to preach 18:54 as we move out into the Red Sea, 18:56 the money comes in. 18:58 I know churches and conferences will say, 19:00 "We don't do anything till we have the money in the bank." 19:03 That's why they don't do anything. 19:05 You don't get it until you move out by faith. 19:07 So friend have faith in God. 19:10 Now moving along we have another lady, 19:11 her name is Denise. 19:13 And she says, I often heard 19:15 pastors refer to Enoch, Moses and Elijah 19:18 as having gone to heaven and then she says 19:21 where in the Bible does it actually said, 19:23 that they are in fact in heaven. 19:25 Well the Bible says about Enoch, Enoch 19:27 walked with God and he was not because God 19:31 took him or where would God take him. 19:33 And then it says in the New Testament, 19:36 it's the Book of Jude I think it says, "Enoch did not die." 19:42 It said he escaped death, while he certainly living 19:45 on this earth and being thousands of years old 19:49 and so he is obviously gone somewhere else, 19:52 and I think he would got to be with the Lord 19:54 and I think that's a logical conclusion. 19:57 Yes and in Mathew chapter, no the one that says, 20:02 he didn't dies, I find it in Hebrew 20:05 I believe, about Hebrews 11. 20:07 But in Mathew 17, Jesus meets with Elijah and Moses. 20:14 Transfiguration. Yeah, you can read 20:16 that with your own blue eyes or brown eyes. 20:21 Jesus met with Elijah and Moses 20:25 and He talked with them while they were in the grave. 20:29 Now Elijah had been caught up in the fiery chariot, 20:32 taken home to glory, he never died. 20:34 Zoom, went home to glory. 20:36 And Moses died and we're told in the Book of Jude 20:42 that the devil tried to keep his body in the grave. 20:46 There was a dispute over the body of Moses 20:49 read it in the Book of Jude, Moses was resurrected. 20:52 Yes. To the home and glory. 20:54 So basically, what you're saying is that, 20:56 it doesn't actually say it, but by implication 20:58 where else would they be. 20:59 Yes, where else would they be. 21:00 Well, Jesus was talking to them. 21:02 Exactly, exactly. We have a gentleman by the name of Jim, 21:06 and he writes in along the similar lines, 21:08 he says "You preach that when a person dies, 21:11 he or she sleeps until the Lord's return. 21:15 Moses died, and he had appeared 21:16 with the larger of the transfiguration" 21:18 we'd just talked about that now, yeah. 21:20 He says, "Is Moses now in heaven with Jesus 21:22 and not in the grave." Yes. 21:24 And for this person it's obviously important, 21:25 he says, "I've been taught that your spirit goes to heaven 21:29 until the Lord's return. 21:30 And then your body comes out of the grave." 21:33 You don't believe that? 21:36 Jim, I should read a text to you. 21:39 Now people say, you teach that death is a sleep. 21:43 Well, I only teach it, because Jesus 21:45 taught it and still teaches it. 21:48 Now I'm turning to John 11:11-14, 21:53 "After he said these, he went onto tell him, 21:56 our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep, 22:02 but I am going there to wake him up. 22:03 His disciples replied to, "Lord, 22:05 if he sleeps, he will get better. 22:07 Jesus had been speaking of his death, 22:11 but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep. 22:15 So then He told them plainly, Lazarus is dead." 22:20 And then you read on in verse 38 and onwards 22:23 he goes to the tomb and He wakes up the sleeping Lazarus. 22:29 Jesus said that death was a sleep. 22:32 All the way through the Bible, time after time, 22:36 death is referred to as a sleep and people sleep. 22:41 Now Jim, listen to this my friend. 22:44 Go read through 1 Corinthians 15, 22:47 it is the one entire chapter in the Bible 22:49 that talks about the state of the dead. 22:51 Yes. And it says that the last enemy 22:53 to be destroyed is death. 22:56 Christians make death their friend. 22:58 1 Corinthians 15 says, it's the last enemy 23:02 to be destroyed and it's destroyed when Jesus comes. 23:06 You think it's because, it's a bit 23:07 of a coping mechanism to deal with the reality of death. 23:11 Yeah, people don't like to think that the dead are dead. 23:15 They want to think that the dead are alive. 23:18 But the dead are sleeping in the grave awaiting 23:21 the resurrection, same as Jesus did. 23:24 Yeah. He slept in the grave until His resurrection. 23:27 Jesus said in John 5 and John 6, 23:30 all those who are in their graves will hear His voice, 23:33 and will come forth. 23:35 Well, people say, it's only their body. 23:36 No, he said, those people there. Yes. 23:39 Now the spirit returns to God that is the breadth of life, 23:44 goes back to God and the person sleeps in the grave, peaceful. 23:52 You can't contact the dead. 23:54 And when Jesus comes, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, 24:00 1 Corinthians 15:51 and onward, 24:03 it tells us that the dead become immortal 24:06 and are raised to life again, at the second coming of Christ. 24:10 The second coming of Christ is our hope, not death. 24:14 Now, John, just on a personal note, 24:15 I had lost my father a few years ago, 24:17 and I found a lot of comfort in knowing 24:19 that he is resting in peace, rest in peace. 24:21 Good console. Awaiting the resurrection. 24:23 Yes. Now on this question, 24:24 Alonzo takes us a little bit deeper into this. 24:26 Alonzo! Alonzo. Thats a good name. 24:29 Yeah, he asks, "If we sleep when we die, 24:31 what about the verse, and I think it's kind 24:34 of misquoted here, he says, 24:35 'To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord." 24:39 I am not sure that's the exact quote. 24:40 Oh, that's pretty right. 24:41 "To be absent with the body is to be present with the Lord, 24:44 how about Abraham's bosom in the story 24:46 of the rich man and Lazarus'? 24:47 All right. A troubling text. Alonzo, 24:50 you're doing good and it's a good question. 24:53 Let me give you an answer from the Bible. 24:57 Now what you gonna to do in the Bible, 25:00 Alonzo is not just take one text you got to take 25:03 the whole lot of them, you see. 25:05 Yes, yes. Let me read Jesus' text. 25:07 "Therefore we are always confident, 25:10 and know that as long as we are at home in the body, 25:15 we are away from the Lord." 25:18 And verse 2, "Meanwhile, 25:20 we groan longing to be clothed with our heavenly dwelling." 25:26 While we are in the sinful mortal bodies, 25:31 James, we groan. Yes. 25:34 And the older we get, the more we groan 25:37 Okay. Your groaning is still to come. 25:40 It's still to come. But as time goes by, 25:42 as the bodies wear out, we groan in these bodies. 25:46 Yes. And we longed 25:47 to be clothed with a new body. Yes. 25:49 Now we are going to get a new body, 25:51 but we don't get it at death. Yes. 25:55 The body is in the grave, we get a new body 25:57 when Jesus comes. 25:59 Now I'm going to come, this is pretty important 26:01 because most people don't get this, 26:04 and most people don't read their Bibles and most people 26:07 just say what they believe what the preacher says. 26:10 We will not all sleep, there it is again, 26:13 "We are not all going to sleep, 26:15 but we will all be changed in a flash, 26:17 in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet." 26:20 It's not death. 26:22 "For the trumpet will sound-- like out of the, 26:26 the great part of the, Messiah, you know the great music. 26:32 I won't try to be it from the beginning. 26:34 That's right, thank you. 26:35 "The dead will be raised imperishable, 26:38 and we will be changed. 26:40 For the perishable must clothe it self" here's the clothing. 26:44 "Clothe yourself with the imperishable 26:47 and the mortal with immortality. 26:49 When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable 26:53 and the mortal with the immortality, 26:55 then the saying that is written will come true, 26:57 'Death has been swallowed up in victory.'" 27:00 And that happens not at death, but when Jesus comes. 27:03 Such an important truth. Yes. 27:06 So many of our viewers still wrestling with this issue, 27:08 and I have another one. 27:10 Bill, who writes," John, 27:12 is that true that you don't believe in an eternal hell, 27:15 which is in adjunct to this. 27:16 Thank you, Bill. 27:17 And he says, didn't Jesus talk more about hell than heaven. 27:21 How about the biblical passage, 27:23 again the 'Richman and Lazarus' 27:25 who was in hell asking for Abraham 27:27 to dip his finger in the cool or cool water, 27:31 to cool his tongue in the fires of hell? 27:33 Yes. Can you also ask 27:34 that his brother be warned so his problem 27:38 was that he wouldn't believe even in hell. 27:41 What's your view on hellfire? 27:43 Well, it's not my view at all, it's the biblical view, 27:45 but James, Bill is doing very well. 27:48 Yes. And he's asked a very, 27:50 very good question, I wish every body who watch 27:53 their television program, was as good as the people 27:55 who are asking these questions, 27:57 because these people are thinking. 27:59 And I commend them with all my heart. 28:02 Exactly. I am proud of my television audience, 28:05 because they are second to none, 28:08 so I believe in hell. 28:12 Oh yes, I believe in a red hot hell. 28:14 I believe in a hell that's going to burn up sinners 28:17 and sin and the devil and everybody else. 28:19 Now Jude says in a similar way, "Sodom and Gomorrah 28:24 and the surrounding towns gave themselves up 28:27 to sexual immorality and perversion." 28:32 You better go and read and see what that perversion 28:35 was and our president, our beloved president 28:39 ought to go and read about it too in his Bible, 28:42 in the Book of Genesis, Mr. President God bless you. 28:46 "In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah 28:48 and the surrounding towns gave 28:49 themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. 28:54 They serve as an example of those who suffer 28:56 the punishment of eternal fire." 28:59 I have been to the sites of Sodom and Gomorrah, 29:02 the southern part of the Dead Sea. 29:03 I've been there, I felt the ashes run 29:06 through my fingers. 29:08 I looked at the little pieces of the human bone, 29:11 those places are not burning today. 29:14 The fire came down and it was an imperishable fire. 29:18 It was unquenchable fire. 29:20 And it burns for ever and ever 29:23 while there was anything there to burn. 29:26 But when the fire has done its work, 29:28 the fire went out and hell would go out too. 29:32 And the Bible says, Sodom and Gomorrah are a type, 29:36 are an illustration of hell. 29:39 So it's pretty hard now, I'm going to give you another text. 29:42 Yes please. Bill, 29:44 you better look at the text, Bill because you are a thinker, 29:48 but the problem is, many people are not like you, Bill. 29:52 I get a few texts on Sunday and on the weekends 29:55 from preacher that's all I hear. 29:58 But I don't hear the rest. 29:59 Mathew 13, Jesus talks about hell, 30:03 "As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, 30:07 so it will be, at death, 30:11 no, so it will be at the end of the age. 30:16 The Son of Man will send out his angels, 30:18 and they will weed out of his kingdom 30:19 everything that causes sin and all who do evil. 30:22 They will throw them into the fiery furnace, that's hell, 30:25 where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 30:27 Then the righteous will shine like the sun 30:29 in the kingdom of their Father. 30:31 Whoever has ears, let them hear?" 30:32 There is hell at the end of the world. 30:36 And the fire's going to go out. 30:38 Now the story of the rich man and Lazarus. 30:41 Well, you can take it on or two ways. 30:43 I prefer to take it in the way that the Bible teaches. 30:47 The Bible in Luke 16, 30:50 not going to look it up, don't have time. 30:52 Luke 16:19 and onwards 30:54 talks about the rich man going to hell. 30:58 And it talks about Lazarus the beggar 31:01 going to Abraham's bosom. 31:04 Now he must have a big bosom 31:05 to take all the righteous if it's true. 31:08 I mean, if it's literal. Yes. 31:10 The Bible is not always to be taken literally, 31:14 if someone says, there are parables, 31:18 that old passage of the Bible is full of parables. 31:23 And so the Bible even uses stories 31:26 that are not literally true to teach great central truths, 31:31 and so what is it teaching. 31:32 Now if the story is literally true, 31:35 if it's literally true, some people would urge, 31:37 and heaven and hell are so close, 31:39 that the people in hell and the people in heaven 31:42 can talk like you and me. Yes. 31:43 They are so close together. 31:45 One of us is burning like mad and the other one is enjoying, 31:48 we won't talk about who is and-- 31:50 but the other one is enjoying the bliss of paradise, 31:53 the Bible doesn't teach such nonsense. Yes. 31:57 The Bible doesn't teach that. 32:00 What would a drop of water in your tongue do for you 32:04 if you are screaming and blazing? Yes. 32:07 This was an idea that was held by some of the Jews. Yes. 32:11 And the story teaches this. 32:13 Here's the punch line as you find in old parables. 32:16 After death, that's it. 32:20 Don't pray for the dead, their fate is sealed. Yes. 32:24 And once you die, after death 32:26 it's going to be heaven and hell that's for sure, 32:29 and the rest of the Bible tells you when. 32:32 But accept God and accept Christ now, 32:34 because once you die, it's too late, 32:37 that's the point of the parable. 32:39 So it's important for us to take the whole Bible, 32:41 not to just grab one, little bit-- 32:42 The text without a context is a pretext. 32:46 Now we have a very big question 32:48 that we want to answer in just a moment. 32:49 It is--it says there is increasing concern 32:51 over the use of NIV Bible, in our churches, 32:55 where people claim that there are lot of words 32:57 and passages missing. 32:58 And the question I want to put to you in just a moment, 33:00 is should we stop using this translation altogether 33:03 and go back to the faithful KJV. 33:06 And we will hear what Pastor Carter has to say on that 33:09 in just a moment after these messages. 33:14 The Carter Report is a self supporting ministry 33:17 with a global mission. 33:19 We believe that the most important thing 33:21 that we can do in this tremendous hour 33:24 is to tell people about the Lord Jesus Christ. 33:27 Because Jesus said, "I am the way, 33:30 the truth and the life." 33:32 We do not believe that this is business as usual. 33:36 We believe that we are living in the closing hours 33:39 in the history of this world. 33:41 Bless your heart, friend. 33:42 Look at the signs that are being fulfilled almost everyday. 33:46 The signs of the times are shouting at us. 33:49 And they're saying, "Jesus is coming soon." 33:53 I want you to be my partner in global mission. 33:56 I want you to be my partner 33:58 in helping to tell the world about the coming of Jesus. 34:02 I want you to be my partner in the preaching 34:05 of the distinctive truths of the Three Angels' Messages. 34:10 Please, check us out 34:12 at the new "Carter Report" website, cartereport.org. 34:17 We have a special section whereby you can ask questions 34:22 and I will give you the answers 34:23 from the living word of the living God. 34:27 That is the cartereport.org. 34:32 My friend, we want you to join us 34:35 in the mission to preach the gospel 34:37 in China, in India, in Australia, in Africa, 34:42 in the United States of America, wherever people are lost 34:46 and wherever people need to hear 34:49 the good news that Jesus saves. 34:53 Please, check us out. 34:54 The new "Carter Report" website, cartereport.org. 34:59 I want to hear from you today. 35:15 Welcome back. 35:16 We are talking with Pastor Carter 35:17 about some extraordinary controversial issues 35:20 and at the moment we've led on the table 35:22 the issue of the NIV Bible. 35:25 Should we be doing away with this Bible altogether 35:27 because people are saying 35:29 that there are words and phrases missing? 35:30 Should we go back to the KJV exclusively? 35:33 What do you have to say about that, Pastor Carter? 35:35 Many sincere Christians ask that question. Yes. 35:40 I love them, God love them. 35:42 I had somebody write to me and said, 35:44 we sure hope you use the King James Version in Russia. 35:48 You preached to millions there 35:49 and hope you're using the King James Version in Russia. 35:53 Well, I have a Russian Bible there. True, true. 35:55 And it's not for greatest translation 35:58 but God can use it to save souls. 36:02 What people ought to stop doing 36:03 is they need to stop debating 36:06 about the relative merits of the NIV 36:09 and they got to start to read their Bible, 36:12 and practice it, you see. Yes. 36:14 But what people don't understand is 36:17 how the Bible is translated. 36:21 Now the King James Version is my favorite translation. 36:25 I am so glad that Americans 36:27 love the Bible of the Church of England. 36:30 They say what? 36:32 Yes, it's the Bible of the Church of England, 36:34 the Church of England gave it to you with love. True. 36:39 It was translated in '60 the King James, 36:42 well we don't have a king over here. Yeah. 36:45 I'm crying out loud as they say in Texas. 36:51 It was translated in 1611. 36:54 People in the days of the Bible 36:56 did not call themselves 'the' and 'thou' and 'thine' 37:00 they used normal language like 'you' and 'me' 37:05 the others are completely out of issue, 37:06 there's something else. 37:09 What the NIV does and some other 37:11 modern speech translations like the American Standard. Yes. 37:16 They have access to a greater number of manuscripts, 37:18 there are no original manuscripts. Yes. 37:21 It is an art and a science 37:23 to find the most ancient manuscripts, 37:27 and so they by a comparisons of the manuscripts 37:30 like the Dead Sea scrolls, brought out to be recent, 37:34 you know only 60 years ago or something. Yes. 37:37 They can find the clearest text, 37:42 the most accurate text. Yes. 37:45 Now some people have asked me. 37:46 What about the New World Translation. 37:50 Isn't that the Bible that the Jehovah's Witnesses use? 37:52 Well, God bless those Jehovah's Witnesses, 37:53 but they don't have a good translation. 37:56 It's a biased translation. 37:58 It is not an accurate translation. 38:00 But one of the most accurate translations 38:02 on the market is the Bible 38:03 I've got here the New International Version. 38:05 If you don't read it, read the Kings James Version. 38:08 And if you don't like that, read the New King James Version. 38:11 But the most important thing that you can do 38:13 is to read your Bible everyday. 38:17 Don't talk about it, read it and obey it. 38:21 Excellent. 38:22 Now we have another writer 38:23 who I guess is asking a more prophetic question, 38:26 his name is Joseph. Good name. 38:28 Yeah, very good name, biblical name. 38:30 How close are we to the king of the south 38:33 arriving on the scene? 38:35 I believe Christ is returning soon, 38:37 but the king of the south has to appear first. 38:39 Yeah, that's a rather profound prefigure question, 38:42 I-- I can talk on that, 38:44 you know, for a long time or as they say in Australia, 38:47 till the cows come home. 38:50 In Daniel 11, you have the battle between 38:53 the King of the North and the King of the South. 38:57 It is generally conceded today 38:58 that the term 'King of the North' 39:00 refers to the last great antichrist. 39:03 The power of the little horn of Daniel 7, 39:06 a little horn of Daniel 8 and the power of Revelation 13. 39:10 We won't go into that in depth. Yes. 39:13 The King of South originally was Egypt. 39:16 It's King of the South. Yeah the physical King of South. 39:19 And the north was Babylon. 39:21 So the King of the North is spiritual Babylon today 39:24 and the King of the South today is spiritual Egypt. 39:30 Egypt was idolatry, and blasphemy, 39:34 and a power that said, who is Jehovah 39:36 that I should obey him. 39:39 It refers to a power 39:40 that is belligerently opposed to the living God. 39:44 Some would say, it's the atheistic communism, 39:48 or militant communism. 39:51 And the Bible says, in the last days, 39:53 this great militant communism, spiritual Egypt, 39:57 the spirit of the old pharaohs 39:59 will become a tremendous force in the world. 40:02 It's happening today, it already has happened. 40:05 And history is repeating itself. 40:07 I believe that we are living in the last days. 40:12 So these things are opponents-- Yes, I think so, yes. 40:15 Now this one you'll find very interesting. 40:17 Her name is Pratibha. Nice name, Pratibha. 40:19 I think it's a she. Let's hope it's a man. 40:21 Yeah, well it could be a he or she. 40:24 Pratibha is the person who is asking, 40:26 they write, "Dear, Pastor Carter, 40:28 I am a Hindu convert from South Africa 40:32 and I am of Indian descent, 40:34 I've been told that my customary sari dress-- 40:37 it's a lady. It's a lady. 40:39 It's a lady. There we go. 40:40 She asks, whether a sari dress is improper 40:43 and not appropriate or inappropriate 40:46 and whether she's clinging to tradition, 40:47 I think she's been told that, 40:49 and she says, I would appreciate your view 40:51 on this kind of a dress. 40:52 I've worn it for a long time, 40:54 if it's not allowed, what is appropriate dress in church. 40:58 For her. For her. 41:00 A sari. Okay. 41:02 Now bless her, here's a woman who has come from Hinduism, 41:09 a pagan religion with all these Gods, 41:12 but they have a national costume, it's a sari. 41:17 It's modest. It's beautiful. 41:19 I've preached in India there 41:22 and when the ladies come by the thousands 41:24 to the meetings they have saris. 41:26 They look beautiful, they look dignified, 41:30 that's what she ought to wear. 41:32 And people in the church would say, 41:35 she's following tradition. 41:38 Well, she is not following tradition 41:41 like her critics are. 41:44 Who says that the western dress came 41:47 and solid from the hand of God. Yeah. 41:51 It is simply a narrow minded concept. 41:54 So I want to say to this beautiful lady, 41:56 who has come from a Hindu church. 41:58 You are welcome in our church any day wearing your sari 42:04 because God loves you and so do we. Amen. Amen. 42:08 I totally agree, Pastor Carter. 42:10 Now the next question is I assume this is a gentleman, 42:13 but it could go either way. His name is Pokie. 42:15 No, it's got to be definitely a gentleman. 42:17 You've come across Pokie's before? 42:19 I-- not for many years, but when I grew up in Brisbane, 42:23 one of my best friends, who is called Pokie. 42:28 He is a great guy. Yes. 42:30 He may be the one sending this out. 42:31 It could be him. Everybody-- 42:33 but they didn't call it to him, unkindly or sarcastically, 42:36 it was sort of an affectionate term. 42:38 So Pokie, with a lot of affection, 42:41 we thank you for the question. 42:42 And he asks, and it's an important question. 42:45 Is Sunday the true day of worship, Sunday? 42:49 Well, Pokie, let me try to give you some text in the Bible. 42:55 Of course, Sunday is not mentioned 42:56 in the Bible by name. Yeah. 42:59 The Sabbath is, but Sunday is the day of the sun. 43:03 We got it from the Romans, 43:05 the pagan Romans who worship their gods on Sunday. 43:10 But it isn't the day that Jesus resurrected from the tomb. 43:12 Yes, it is, it is the first day of the week 43:14 and when people want to dispute that, 43:16 you just say to them, go and look up any encyclopedia, 43:20 the Sabbath is the seventh day 43:22 and that is the day we call Saturday today. Yes. 43:25 Sunday is the first day of the week. 43:26 All of the Christians believe that 43:28 Jesus rose from the dead 43:29 on the first day. On the first day. 43:31 And that's why they keep Sunday 43:32 even though the Bible doesn't tell you to. 43:34 Revelation 1:10 says, 43:38 "On the Lord's day I was in the spirit." 43:40 So the first truth we are going to establish is this, 43:44 there is a Lord's Day. 43:46 Okay. Yes. 43:47 Not every day is the same, there is the Lord's day. 43:50 Now which day is the Lord's day, 43:52 we go to the Bible that Jesus used 43:56 and that's the Book of Isaiah 43:58 and it is, this tells us which is the Lord's day. 44:02 Isaiah 58:13, in my NIV. 44:10 It says, "If you keep your feet from breaking the Sabbath 44:14 and from doing as you please on my holy day" 44:19 he's got a holy day, it's the Sabbath. 44:22 "If you call the Sabbath a delight 44:24 and the Lord's holy day honorable." 44:27 Let me give you some facts, Pastor Venegas. 44:31 Sunday is never called the Sabbath. 44:34 The first day of the week is never called the Sabbath. 44:37 There's no record of Jesus or the disciples keeping Sunday 44:43 or the first day of the week in honor of the resurrection. 44:47 That is the myth. Okay. 44:48 It is not taught in the scriptures. 44:50 The first day of the week 44:51 is mentioned 8 times in the New Testament 44:53 and I can reel them off, 44:54 but not one of those texts says it's a holy day. 44:57 Sunday or the first day of the week 44:59 is never called the Lord's day. Okay. 45:02 Where do we get this from? 45:03 From the Roman Catholic church fathers. 45:06 But you can't find with Sunday 45:08 or the first of the week is called the Lord's day. 45:12 I believe as an old fashioned Bible Christian, 45:15 I believe in the Gospel of Christ, 45:17 I believe I am saved by Christ alone. 45:20 I believe in the blood of Christ 45:22 and I believe in the Ten Commandments. 45:24 And the fourth commandment says, 45:26 "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy." 45:29 The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord, your God. 45:34 You and I by the grace of God 45:36 ought to show our love to Jesus, 45:38 by keeping His commandments, 45:40 including the Lord 's Day, the Sabbath. 45:45 And on now that we have another person 45:47 by the name of Kendroy who accepts the fact that 45:50 we keep the seventh day Sabbath, 45:52 but he's asking, how about the other holy days, 45:55 he says that in Leviticus 23, it states 45:57 that "the weekly as well as the annual Sabbaths 45:59 are feasts of the Lord and then he mentions Pentecost, 46:03 the day of unleavened bread 46:05 in Acts and 1 Corinthians 16, 46:08 one that also be keeping 46:09 the holy feast of the Old Testament. 46:11 All right, good question, Kendroy, great question. 46:14 You are not the first person to ask it. 46:16 In fact there was the whole church, 46:18 the worldwide church, took out the Armstrong church, 46:21 you know, they used to keep all of those feast days. 46:24 I don't think they do now. 46:29 Let me tell you something, 46:31 let me share you something, it may be better. 46:33 I'm going to turn over here, to the Book of Hebrews 9 46:36 and if you want to keep those days, 46:38 that's between you and God, 46:40 but you're certainly going in the right direction, 46:43 at least you want to keep God's holy days 46:46 and that's good. 46:48 Hebrews 9:9-10 says, 46:51 "This is an illustration for the present time 46:55 indicating that the gifts 46:57 and the sacrifices being offered, 46:59 were not only, were not able 47:01 to clear the conscience of the worshipper. 47:07 They are only a matter of food and drink 47:09 and various ceremonial washings. 47:12 External regulations applying to the time of the new order.'' 47:19 Now the Bible talks about a new order. 47:21 I believe in the two aspects of the Lord, 47:24 God the moral law and the ceremonial law. 47:27 I believe in the decal and this is mainstream theology, 47:31 every church is taught. 47:33 If the churches say no, it's not what we teach, 47:36 you just have to say look at your prayer books. 47:37 That's true. 47:39 The ceremonial aspects of the law of God 47:41 were done away with. 47:43 For instance, circumcision as a religious right. 47:48 The special Sabbath days like the Passover 47:53 and the Day of Atonement, 47:56 Feast of First Fruits, Trumpets, 47:58 they pointed the people to the coming of Christ. 48:02 That's why it says in the Bible, 48:04 Christ Passover has sacrifice for us. 48:06 To the first coming of Christ. 48:08 Yes, so when Jesus died, 48:11 he died at Passover time. Yeah. 48:13 We know this and he fulfilled the Passover feast 48:17 and so these feasts were sign points 48:21 to point the people to the coming of Christ. 48:24 They pointed forward 48:27 and I believed they finished at the cross. 48:30 And they were merged out after the cross. 48:32 But the Sabbath points us 48:33 back to creation of the seventh day Sabbath. 48:36 Keep the Sabbath because God made you 48:40 and so the ceremony of Sabbaths point forward, 48:43 the seventh day Sabbath points back to creation. 48:46 And I believe that with the new order, 48:49 the ceremonial law is done away with. 48:52 And remembering to that God wrote 48:53 the Ten Commandments with His hand, 48:56 as opposed to the ceremonial-- 48:57 Spoke them with His own mouth, 48:58 He never did that about the Passover. Exactly. 49:01 We have another lady called Karen 49:04 who writes and she knows you well. 49:06 She says dear Pastor Carter I'm an avid listener 49:10 and a fan of your straightforward telling truth. 49:12 I don't know where people get this idea from. 49:16 And she says, I love my evangelical friends, 49:19 obviously she tells like it is to, 49:21 but they drive me crazy with their total obsession 49:24 with the state of Israel 49:26 and their rebuilding of the temple. Yeah. 49:29 She says, she asks, 49:30 is the nation of Israel still relevant? 49:32 What part does Israel play in this time in earth's history? 49:36 Aren't God's promises unconditional, 49:39 sorry conditional? 49:40 So she is asking aren't God's promises conditional 49:43 with reference to the state of Israel? 49:46 Karen is, Karen, you are very observant 49:50 and what you are saying is very pertinent 49:52 and relevant. Yes. 49:57 The vast majority of evangelicals 49:59 look at the Bible as though Christ did never come 50:03 and that's a shock to them. 50:05 They look upon the fulfillment of Bible prophecy 50:08 and everything as though they had never been a cross. 50:11 Now the Bible teaches-- 50:13 now I'll read you what Jesus said 50:15 because it appears a lot of them 50:17 haven't read these texts but over here in Matthew 21, 50:24 Jesus is talking to the leaders of the Jewish nation 50:29 and he talks about how they would reject Him 50:33 and nail Him to the cross. Now that was the sin of sins. 50:38 Crucifying the Son of God and then he said. 50:41 "Therefore I tell you, 50:42 that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you, 50:49 and given to a people who will produce its fruit." 50:53 They were the people, the Gentiles 50:55 and believing Jews who accepted Christ. 50:59 When the Jews as a nation nailed Christ to the cross, 51:04 they ceased to be the Israel of God. 51:09 And God had a new Israel. Who is the new Israel? 51:12 Every person Jew and Gentile who put his faith in Christ. 51:16 And Romans 9 says it. 51:19 Now, I'm amazed that evangelicals 51:21 and so many people don't seem to know 51:23 that these texts are in the Bible, 51:26 Romans 9: 6-8, 51:27 that's why I urge people to think for themselves. 51:30 It says, "It is not as though God's word had failed. 51:33 For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 51:38 Nor because they are his descendants 51:40 are they all Abraham's children. 51:42 On the contrary, it is through Isaac 51:44 that your offspring will be reckoned". 51:46 In other words, it is not the natural children 51:49 who are God's children, 51:50 but it is the children of the promise 51:52 who are regarded as Abraham's offspring. 51:56 If you are a child of the promise, 51:58 you are an Israelite and it says in Galatians, 52:02 it is not the male or female 52:04 neither Jew nor Gentile, but all are one in Christ Jesus. 52:09 And if you belong to Christ, 52:12 these are the words in Galatians, 52:14 you are Abraham's seed. 52:16 How about the reference in Revelation to Zion 52:19 or the New Jerusalem, 52:20 it isn't that what they are looking for. 52:21 It must be interpreted of course 52:24 in a spiritual context. Yes. 52:27 God has an Israel today absolutely 52:30 but its' not over there in the Middle East, 52:31 no not at all. 52:33 The Israel today is made up of Jews and Gentiles, 52:38 black and white every person who has his true faith in Christ 52:42 and if people would understand this, 52:44 then they would be less involved 52:46 in the politics of Middle East. 52:50 And more interested 52:51 in the proclamation of the gospel 52:54 to build the kingdom of God. Amen. 52:57 I have another fellow by the name of Hants 53:00 who writes, and this is a very personal question for him. 53:04 He says, why kneel at the tree the cross or even look at it, 53:08 why not at the grave where Jesus rose from the dead? 53:11 Has the wooden cross become our idol he asked? 53:15 I don't want to kneel at the foot of a tree 53:17 which is only a creation from our Creator. 53:22 Hants, good question, good attitude. 53:26 You are talking I think about idolatry. 53:28 You go to some countries, 53:30 I was down south of the border here, 53:31 down Mexico way. 53:34 I went into a vast cathedral there, 53:37 watched everything, kneeling before images 53:42 also you find it in so called protestant countries, 53:46 but particularly in catholic countries. 53:49 Earnest, good, fine people 53:52 but kneeling down before images, 53:54 maybe that's what Hants is talking about. 53:56 But the Apostle Paul said in the cross of Christ I glory. 54:02 The hymn writer wrote in the cross of Christ 54:04 I glory towering all the wrecks of time. 54:08 But we are not to kneel at the foot of a literal cross, 54:11 we have to kneel at the foot of the spiritual Christ. 54:16 Some people just worship the nails and the splinters 54:19 but we need to worship 54:21 the living Christ who died for us. 54:24 And we need to have a personal experience with Christ. 54:27 Good question. 54:29 Now, I want to fit this one in, we don't have a lot of time, 54:31 it's from Denise, he says 54:33 I'm a grandpa to a sweet girl, 54:36 Me too, me too. But unlike yours. 54:39 Who asked me recently why we say by scripture alone. 54:44 Why do we say Sola scriptura, what does that mean? 54:47 Sola Scripture means that our faith is based 54:49 not upon the teachings of the church. 54:52 Our faith is not based upon a conference. Yes. 54:55 Our faith is not based upon a hierarchy or in establishment. 54:59 It's not based upon the papacy, 55:01 it's not based upon any earthly organization 55:06 it is based upon the Word of God, this is it. Yes. 55:09 Now the Protestants had a great saying we have it too. 55:12 Sola scriptures only Christ, 55:14 Sola scripture, Sola scriptura only the Bible, 55:18 Sola gratia only grace, Sola fide only faith. 55:22 Now, too often you go into churches though 55:24 and they say this but they don't practice it. 55:27 They quote every other author 55:29 and they have other authorities 55:31 rather than the authority of the Bible. 55:33 When we have theological discussions, 55:35 we should be quoting scripture alone 55:38 because this is a source of truth, 55:41 I belong to a church that says 55:43 in its doctrinal statement the Bible 55:48 and the Bible alone is the word-- 55:51 is our word of faith and practice. 55:54 I stand by that 55:56 and I would encourage every person 55:57 not to build upon sinking sand 56:01 but to build upon the living word 56:03 of the living God, so help us God. 56:04 So, grandpa, let's keep teaching the young girl 56:06 to be open and heard all of it. Absolutely. 56:08 Not, just believe what others have to say 56:10 but opening the scriptures. 56:11 Pastor Carter, we thank you for being on the program today. 56:14 It's a pleasure to be able to interview you. 56:16 Oh, pleasure to talk to you. 56:17 And of course we thank you for watching. 56:20 We're asking you, to keep those questions coming. 56:22 Please write to us at John Carter Box 1900, 56:27 Thousand oaks, CA 91358 is the zip code the post code 56:32 or in Australia at the address on your screen 56:35 in Terrigal, New South Wales. 56:37 Until next time may God richly bless you. |
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