Participants: Pr. John Carter
Series Code: CR
Program Code: CR001305
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00:08 From Arcadia, California, the Carter Report Presents
00:11 "The Living Word" around the world. 00:18 Is the true church based on the Apostle Peter? 00:23 My name is James Venegas. 00:24 Welcome to the Carter Report. 00:25 Today our topic is "Fresh Hot Potatoes" 00:28 and our special guest is Pastor John Carter. 00:34 Jesus said, "Go into all the world 00:37 and make disciples of all nations, 00:39 baptizing them in the name of the Father, 00:41 Son and Holy Spirit." 00:43 The Carter Report team has therefore 00:45 accepted the challenge of worldwide evangelism. 00:49 Millions, in Russia, Ukraine, the Philippines, Africa, 00:53 India, Australia, the United States 00:56 and the Isles of the Sea have heard the good news of Christ. 01:00 As John Carter has proclaimed God's Living Word. 01:03 You're invited to be a part of the Carter team, 01:07 by praying and by giving and when God calls, by going. 01:11 Write a note now to Pastor John Carter, 01:14 PO Box 1900, Thousand Oaks, California, 91358 01:20 or to PO Box 861, Terrigal, NSW 2260, Australia. 01:28 Jesus said, "With God all things are possible." 01:36 Pastor Carter, welcome to the program. 01:38 Glad to be here. 01:39 We have a lot of interesting questions coming in 01:42 from our viewing audience and now from the internet. Yes. 01:45 So are you ready to answer some of these questions? 01:47 Some of these Fresh Hot Potatoes. 01:49 Fresh Hot Potatoes no longer potatoes, 01:51 hot potatoes, they're fresh. 01:54 We live in ever changing times and our faith 01:58 and faith is trying to find its place in such fluid times. 02:03 I have questions coming in based on the church 02:06 and also based on what is happening in society. 02:08 The first question comes from Frances 02:11 and it is, "Is the true church built on the Apostle Peter?" 02:15 Basically Jesus spoke to Peter 02:17 said that I am going to build this church on you, 02:20 that's what the Bible seems to say. 02:23 Is that the case? 02:27 I think we should look at the text. Okay. 02:29 I do not believe for one moment, 02:32 that the church is build upon Saint Peter. Okay. 02:35 If the church is built upon Saint Peter, we're all lost. 02:40 I am going to turn over here, Pastor Venegas, 02:42 to Mathew 16:13 and onwards. 02:50 "When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, 02:54 he asked his disciples, 'Who do people say the Son of Man is?' 02:59 They replied, "Some say, John the Baptist, 03:03 others say Elijah, and still others, 03:05 Jeremiah, one of the prophets.' 03:09 What about you?' he asked. 03:10 'Who do you say I am?' 03:15 Simon Peter answered," and here it is, James, 03:19 "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." 03:23 This is the great testimony of Saint Peter. 03:28 "'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.' 03:31 Jesus replied, 'Blessed are you, Simon, son of Jonah, 03:36 for this was not revealed to you by man, 03:39 but by my Father in heaven. 03:41 And I tell you, you are Peter, 03:46 and on this rock I will build my church, 03:50 and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it.'" 03:54 Now any academy would tell me that the name Peter is Pathros. 03:58 And the name for the church is Petra 04:03 isn't that a play on words, isn't that Jesus saying, 04:05 that He's going to build it on Peter? 04:07 I think what Jesus is saying here is this, 04:09 you are Peter, and the word Peter of course 04:13 as you have rightly said can be interpreted rock. Yes. 04:18 But there are big rocks 04:19 and there are little rock also you know. 04:22 There are little tiny rocks that just roll around, 04:26 they're mighty rock, there's the rock of ages. 04:29 The church was not built upon Saint Peter 04:33 who later on denied his Lord 04:36 and the gates of hell prevailed against him. 04:39 It was built upon the great truth that Peter proclaimed 04:44 you're the Christ the son of the living God. 04:48 That great truth is the rock 04:51 on which the Christian church is built. 04:54 The Bible tells me that Jesus rose from the dead 04:58 and His home in glory and He's alive, 05:02 but Saint Peter is sleeping, waiting the resurrection. 05:08 I don't want to belong to a church 05:10 that is built upon a sleeping saint, 05:14 I want to belong to a church that is built upon 05:17 a risen triumphant very much alive Christ. 05:21 Now, come over here to 1 Corinthians 10:4. 05:30 The Bible says, "They all ate the same spiritual food 05:36 and drank the same spiritual drink, 05:39 for they drank from the spiritual rock 05:42 that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ." 05:46 All the way through the Bible, Christ, God Himself the rock, 05:53 the great rock of ages. 05:55 Peter is not the rock on which God has built His church. 06:00 God forbid the true church is not built upon man, 06:05 man's church is built upon man. Yes. 06:08 God's church is built upon God. 06:11 Now we have another question flowing on from that one, 06:14 from Xavier, 1.2 billion Catholics in the world 06:18 and they all believe that these been a sequential 06:21 succession of Apostles the Bishops. 06:25 Pope Frances is the latest example. 06:26 Yes. Seems a nice guy. 06:28 Yeah, and he's doing a lot of good things 06:31 and he says that Peter was the first Bishop of Rome? 06:34 So was he or was he not? 06:38 Here is the text and this is the great text 06:41 that Martin Luther quoted. 06:43 1 Corinthians 3, "For no one can lay any foundation 06:48 other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ." 06:55 No one can lay any other foundation 06:57 than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. 07:02 In the days of the Bible, in the days of Peter 07:06 they were no Popes, no Popes. 07:11 The papacy did not come into existence 07:14 until hundreds of years after Saint Peter. 07:18 The idea that Peter was the first Pope 07:22 is simply church tradition 07:24 and is not worth the paper it is written on. 07:30 What is more, Peter in the Bible had a mother-in-law. Yes. 07:36 You read about this where Jesus went and healed 07:40 the mother-in-law of Saint Peter. 07:44 James, it's dreadfully had to have 07:46 a mother-in-law without a wife. 07:49 Very true, very true and impossible. 07:51 So, Peter was a married man. 07:56 And yet one of the main factors of the papacy, 08:01 is that the Popes and the priest have got to be celibate 08:06 which is completely opposed to the teaching of the word of God. 08:11 Now we have got to make this very plain. Yes. 08:16 We love Roman Catholic people. Yeah. 08:18 And we respect Roman Catholic people, 08:21 we respect the Pope but our authority 08:25 is not the teaching of the church of Rome 08:27 or the teaching of any church. 08:30 It is solo scriptura and is scripture 08:33 and the idea that Peter was the first Pope 08:36 is simply a tradition of the church 08:39 and it is completely ironies and false. 08:43 So it's incredible, a few thousand years now 08:46 so many people, so what would you say to it a Catholic person 08:49 to help them understand this difference between tradition 08:53 and scripture, how can they see the light? 08:57 I find around the world that millions and millions, 09:02 tens of millions, probably hundreds of millions 09:05 of Earnest Roman Catholics are coming to believe 09:08 in the principle of solo scriptura. Yeah. 09:12 Which means only scripture because the church, 09:16 every church frequently contradicts itself. 09:19 The Roman Church is frequently contradicted itself. 09:23 They have changed their views and their ideas 09:27 so they don't publicly this. 09:29 But millions of Roman Catholics 09:31 are coming to the view point that Jesus taught. 09:34 It is written, "Man shall not live by bread alone 09:38 but by every word that proceeds 09:41 out of the mouth of God." 09:42 We must build upon the word of God 09:44 not upon the word of fallible men and women. 09:49 Now a well know Catholic is Piers Morgan from CNN. 09:53 He's a very opened Catholic believer. 09:57 But, he's not a very good one. 09:58 He's not a very good one. But he-- 10:00 Because he doesn't believe what his church teaches. 10:02 Well, basically he is saying that 10:04 society has been changing so much 10:06 with the same sex marriage issue, 10:08 that perhaps the Bible is deficient 10:12 or needs a mending to adjust to our cultural times. 10:16 Is that, is that something that we should be doing? 10:20 That's why I said, he's maybe a very good man 10:23 and he's excellent interviewer. I enjoy him. 10:26 But he can't be a very good Catholic 10:29 because his Catholic church is automatically 10:32 taken a stand against same sex marriage. 10:36 If he's a Roman Catholic and he's sincere one 10:40 he should do what his church tells him to do 10:43 because that his the basis of being a Roman Catholic 10:47 to be obedient to the teachings of the church. 10:50 But James, there's a text in the Bible 10:54 that I doubt if our dear English friend knows much about. 11:00 He may but I doubt if he reads a great deal of the Bible. 11:05 I could be wrong of course. 11:08 Romans 3:2 says, "Much in every way! 11:13 First of all," he is talking about the Jewish people. Yes. 11:17 "They have been entrusted with the very words of God." 11:24 This book here consists 11:27 of the very words of God but in the words of men. 11:31 But nevertheless the thoughts are the very thoughts of God. 11:35 This is not an ordinary book. Yes. 11:37 Now, our friend of CNN says, I heard him say it, 11:41 he said it to a well known preacher of this country. 11:45 And he said, well, don't you think 11:47 we are to just change the Bible words says things 11:50 that we don't believe anymore. 11:51 No, we need to change the things that we're doing 11:54 that are concrete to the word of God. 11:56 Yes, yes. 11:57 But he uses some arguments that almost make sense. 12:00 He says, in the Bible it teaches that 12:03 that if a women is caught in the adultery that we are-- 12:06 that person should be stoned, should be killed for that 12:09 and obviously he says that, 12:10 that is not a teaching that would make sense. 12:13 Of course, he's not quoting all the scripture. 12:15 He doesn't quote the New Testament, does he? 12:17 No, he doesn't. 12:18 And Jesus the Almighty the Son of God 12:20 interpreted the Old Testament 12:22 and there was a case where a women was brought 12:24 into the Lord's presence and she had been caught 12:27 by the Pharisees in the very act of adultery. 12:31 How would they catch her? Very true. 12:33 You know, how did they catch her? 12:35 Well we think that one of there cronies one of the Pharisees 12:39 was the one committing adultery with her so it was a set up. 12:44 Jesus said, "He who is without sin, 12:49 let him be the first to cast a stone at her." 12:54 Now another thing that my friend Mr. Morgan 12:56 perhaps should consider is this, 13:01 that the children of Israel in the Old Testament 13:05 lived under a different system to us. 13:09 They lived under a system which is called a theocracy. 13:16 Now many of our Muslims friends wish to set up a theocracy. 13:21 Some of the Middle Eastern countries 13:24 are theocracies like Saudi Arabia. 13:28 God is the actual head of the country 13:29 and the Quran is the law book 13:33 and so they judge people by Quran 13:36 because they do not understand 13:38 the separation of church and state. 13:40 But in the Old Testament for a period, 13:42 Pastor Venegas, of some 1500 years, 13:46 you have a system of church organization 13:49 which doesn't exist today. Yes. 13:52 It was the system of the theocracy 13:54 and laws were carried out and enforced. 13:58 So if you murdered you will put to death. 14:02 If you committed adultery 14:03 which was another sin, you'll put to death. 14:06 If you willingly openly broke the Sabbath you'll put to death. 14:10 Now on that thought, on that thought 14:12 we have some decisions being made by our own current law 14:16 and we're gonna discuss that in just a moment 14:18 after some very important announcements. 14:24 Hello friend, I am John Carter in Colombia. 14:29 Behind me is the great city of Bogota 14:32 the capital of this amazing country. 14:36 This city is a city of more than eight million souls. 14:42 It's up more than 8,000 feet in the Andes. 14:47 And we've come here today with one purpose in mind 14:51 to preach the everlasting gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 14:56 We are here because we have a commission from God. 15:00 Jesus said, "Go into all the world 15:03 and preach the Everlasting Gospel, 15:06 baptizing them in the name of the Father, 15:08 and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." 15:12 The people here need the gospel of Christ. 15:16 And I am asking you today come with us, 15:19 if not in body but come with us in spirit. 15:23 This is been a very, very dangerous city. 15:26 A very dangerous part of the world 15:28 but we believe that we are safe when we are in the hands of God. 15:34 Therefore I am beseeching you in the name of Christ 15:37 and in the name of these eight million plus inhabitants 15:42 in the city of Bogota to come 15:46 and help us to preach the word of God. 15:48 Please support the preaching of the word of God in Columbia. 15:52 Please write to me, John Carter, PO Box 1900, 15:57 Thousand Oaks, California, 91358. 16:01 In Australia write to me at the address, 16:04 Terrigal, New South Wales, Australia. 16:08 Jesus said, "Work while it is day 16:11 the night is coming when no man can work." 16:15 Please write to me today. 16:17 Thank you, and God bless you. 16:26 And we're back with some more 16:27 "Fresh Hot Potatoes" with Pastor John Carter. 16:31 Now we have been talking about Piers Morgan Catholicism 16:33 and the changes that are happening in our society. 16:36 Well, lets get right to it, same sex marriage, 16:40 it's been gaining ahead of steam 16:41 and now has been virtually passed 16:43 this law in the State of California. 16:47 The Supreme Court has now revoked Prop 8 16:50 and Christians and everyone abound now to a law 16:55 that has been inactive by government. 16:57 You were telling us that in the Old Testament 16:59 there was a theocracy and God was the ruler 17:04 and everyone must obey. 17:05 What happens when you live in a Christian country 17:07 and these laws are inactive almost in God's name? 17:10 Are we bound to follow suit? 17:13 Jesus said, "Render the Caesar the things that be Caesar's." 17:18 And to God the thing that bigots, 17:22 a Christian has, Pastor Venegas, a true hierarchy of values. 17:30 God first, the law of God first others next. 17:36 Then you have got the state and the Supreme Court. 17:39 While we're citizens of the United of the America 17:43 or Australia or somewhere else 17:46 and while we're loyal citizens our first loyalty is to God. 17:53 And if the government should come along and tell us 17:56 to violate out consciousness we're duty bound to say, 18:00 no, we will serve God rather then serve men. 18:05 Peter said, I leave to you to judge. 18:09 Shall we obey you or shall we obey God? 18:13 Now the government, the Supreme Court, 18:18 I don't care who, the church, they do not have the right 18:24 to interfere with my religious beliefs. 18:30 And if I believe something according to scripture 18:33 then I will go with scripture 18:36 even though it maybe country to the law of man 18:40 and the Bible is very plain 18:42 as far as same sex marriage is concerned. 18:44 It is perfectly plain. 18:46 So it's different to a theocracy then this is a man made law. 18:50 Or some people would like to have a theocracy today. 18:53 It is been talked about for years in the greats, land of 18:57 the United States of America where we live. 18:59 It will be good if we had Christ to us as the king. 19:02 That we would have the laws of God being enforced. 19:07 No, no, that takes you back to the dark ages. 19:11 That's the very essence of antichrist. 19:15 The Bible doesn't teach that. The soul of man must be free. 19:21 And Christians have got to have the courage 19:23 and the gumption and the conviction to say 19:26 as for me and my house we will serve the Lord. 19:30 We respect the Supreme Court, we respect the presidency 19:36 but the Supreme Court cannot violate my religious rights. 19:40 Now on this you mentioned religious rights. 19:43 Some people would say that the Bible teaches 19:46 that everyone has a right to be equal. Yes, yes. 19:49 And so same sex marriages are defended on this basis 19:53 that it's biblical to respect people right 19:56 and to married to be equal in every way 19:58 to have all the federal benefits and everything like that, 20:01 what would you say with that? 20:04 I believe there are such things as civil rights. 20:09 I believe that we should respect people. 20:13 I have nothing but abhorrence for organizations or groups 20:19 that attack individuals on the basis 20:23 of there race or there sexuality. 20:26 I think that's abhorrent. Yeah. 20:30 I have seen churches in this country 20:33 with huge big signs up in the streets 20:36 calling people terrible names because of their sexuality. 20:40 I think that is so unlike the Lord Jesus Christ, 20:45 I believe this. Yeah. 20:48 So I believe in respecting people's civil rights. 20:54 But as a Christian who follows the Bible 20:57 I must teach the word of God. 21:01 My wife said to me sometime back she said, 21:03 the time will come soon when 21:05 there will be people going to prison again 21:09 because they disagree with the state or the state church 21:13 or whatever on certain religious beliefs. 21:18 We must be prepared to die 21:21 rather then give up our faith in the word of God 21:23 and the teachings of the Bible. 21:26 If the state or the Supreme Court has a law, 21:29 next week that says that polygamy is right. 21:34 And they have as much reason to pass that law 21:38 as I had to pass the law on same sex marriage. 21:42 As this brought out by-- what was one of U.S. news, 21:47 one of the papers I read a commentary. 21:51 They have this much right to pass the law condoning polygamy 21:56 or any of those things as same sex marriage. 22:01 But whatever they pass that does not affect by personnel beliefs. 22:08 And as a citizen of this country 22:10 I am at this very moment protected by the constitutions, 22:16 at this moment how long this is going to avail I don't know 22:19 but I am told in the bill of rights 22:22 the church and state ought to be separate 22:26 and the Congress should not pass any law favoring one religion 22:31 and they cannot force down my throat 22:36 some idea that I believe 22:38 is completely contratery to the word of God. 22:40 Now having said that I believe 22:42 we should respect the civil rights of all people. 22:45 Homosexuals, I don't care 22:47 who they are we should love people. 22:49 So you're saying that respect civil rights 22:50 but they has to be some moral absolutes. 22:52 Absolutely. 22:54 Now if America which was once founded by the pilgrims 22:57 and by the puritans, that let's go off the Bible 23:00 we have got a better dozen or more states now 23:03 going down this way. 23:05 We turn away from the Bible completely. 23:07 Do you think that America will survive, will endure? 23:10 This is the most contentious controversial issue 23:15 and people like to have the Pollyanna complex 23:18 where by they say we're the greatest 23:20 and we will always be the greatest. 23:23 So said the Romans. Yeah, yeah. 23:26 So said Spain until the Spanish Armada. 23:30 So said my old motherland and Mr. Morgan's motherland 23:37 Greater Britain. Yes. 23:38 But she's not so great anymore. 23:43 America's greatness is not her who nuclear arsenal, 23:50 America's greatness has been 23:52 her feudality to guard in the laws of God. 23:55 Now even though we don't believe in theocracy. 23:58 This nation was founded upon Christian-Judaea principles. 24:06 This is what the country was based upon. 24:09 You throw out this book 24:10 and if you throw out the Commandments of God 24:13 America will go down the same as the Roman Empire 24:17 and every other empire that is proceeded her. 24:19 That's what Ben Carson said to the president. 24:23 Let me read here a little passage here. 24:25 Jeremiah 36:10 and to the people who are watching out there 24:31 in television land, listen, verse 10 says. 24:35 "From the room of Gemariah son of Shaphan the secretary, 24:39 which was in the courtyard 24:41 at the entrance of the New Gate of the temple, 24:44 Baruch read to all the people at the Lord's temple 24:49 the words of Jeremiah from the scroll." 24:52 So he was reading the word of God. 24:56 And the king heard about this and the king said, 24:59 bring me this scroll and let me hear it. 25:02 You know what the scroll said, 25:04 because of the sins of the people of God 25:07 Jerusalem was going to be destroyed. 25:10 Wow So what was Jeremiah doing? 25:13 Well in the eyes of the people he was committing treachery. 25:18 He was saying that the Babylonians 25:21 were going to come and destroy the temple of God 25:25 and the city of Jerusalem, high treason. 25:29 Now, you come to verse 21, 25:34 "The king sent Jehudi to get the scroll, 25:38 and Jehudi brought it from the room of--" 25:41 it goes on goes on, 25:43 "It was the ninth month 25:44 and the king was sitting in the winter apartment 25:46 with a fire burning in the firepot in front of him. 25:51 When Jehudi had read three or four columns of the scroll, 25:56 the king cut them off with a scribe's knife 25:59 and threw them into the firepot, 26:03 until the whole scroll, the entire scroll 26:06 was burned in the fire." 26:08 And so as the word of God was read, 26:12 the mighty king and his presumption 26:15 took the scroll, cut it with the penknife 26:20 and throw it into the fire. 26:22 Many people today, Pastor Venegas, 26:24 are taking the word of God 26:25 and cutting it with their own penknife. Yeah. 26:29 They are throwing it into the fire. 26:30 You know what happened to their king? 26:31 What happened? And Jerusalem, destroyed. 26:36 The city was completely destroyed 26:38 and the people were eventually taken as salves into captivity. 26:44 They had an origin more illustrious 26:48 than the United State of America. 26:50 Then they were brought out of Egyptian bondage. 26:53 God gave them the Ten Commandments, 26:54 wrote it with His own finger. 26:58 They were the chosen people of God, the chosen city of God. 27:02 They were the Israel of God and yet they were destroyed 27:06 because they destroyed the word of God. 27:10 If America, any individual, any nation, any government 27:17 I don't care you can give any name to it, 27:19 takes the word of God and cuts it with penknife. 27:22 They will be responsive. There will consequences. 27:25 Yeah. Yes. 27:26 So what a tremendous warning for us living in these days. 27:29 Yeah, we shouldn't mess with God 27:30 and we shouldn't mess with the word of God. 27:32 And we shouldn't let culture lowered down the word of God. 27:36 No, but most people will. 27:38 Now Pastor Carter, we have had so many great questions today 27:42 and really reflecting where faith is 27:45 and where our culture is and importance of the word of God. 27:48 We want to thank you, for your time. 27:50 We love getting these fresh hot potato questions 27:53 and we love to answer them. 27:54 And there is more to come. And there is more to come. 27:56 And if you have any more questions 27:58 that you would like for Pastor Carter to answer 28:00 please write to us or go to our website 28:03 at carterreport.org 28:05 and we will present them here and we will answer them 28:07 and you will be able to hear what Pastor Carter has to say. 28:10 Thank you, very much for your time, Pastor Carter. 28:11 My pleasure. 28:12 God bless you, we will see you next time. 28:13 Thank you. Thank you for watching. |
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