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Fresh Hot Potatoes, Part 1

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00:08 From Arcadia, California, the Carter Report Presents
00:11 "The Living Word" around the world.
00:18 Is the true church based on the Apostle Peter?
00:23 My name is James Venegas.
00:24 Welcome to the Carter Report.
00:25 Today our topic is "Fresh Hot Potatoes"
00:28 and our special guest is Pastor John Carter.
00:34 Jesus said, "Go into all the world
00:37 and make disciples of all nations,
00:39 baptizing them in the name of the Father,
00:41 Son and Holy Spirit."
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01:28 Jesus said, "With God all things are possible."
01:36 Pastor Carter, welcome to the program.
01:38 Glad to be here.
01:39 We have a lot of interesting questions coming in
01:42 from our viewing audience and now from the internet. Yes.
01:45 So are you ready to answer some of these questions?
01:47 Some of these Fresh Hot Potatoes.
01:49 Fresh Hot Potatoes no longer potatoes,
01:51 hot potatoes, they're fresh.
01:54 We live in ever changing times and our faith
01:58 and faith is trying to find its place in such fluid times.
02:03 I have questions coming in based on the church
02:06 and also based on what is happening in society.
02:08 The first question comes from Frances
02:11 and it is, "Is the true church built on the Apostle Peter?"
02:15 Basically Jesus spoke to Peter
02:17 said that I am going to build this church on you,
02:20 that's what the Bible seems to say.
02:23 Is that the case?
02:27 I think we should look at the text. Okay.
02:29 I do not believe for one moment,
02:32 that the church is build upon Saint Peter. Okay.
02:35 If the church is built upon Saint Peter, we're all lost.
02:40 I am going to turn over here, Pastor Venegas,
02:42 to Mathew 16:13 and onwards.
02:50 "When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi,
02:54 he asked his disciples, 'Who do people say the Son of Man is?'
02:59 They replied, "Some say, John the Baptist,
03:03 others say Elijah, and still others,
03:05 Jeremiah, one of the prophets.'
03:09 What about you?' he asked.
03:10 'Who do you say I am?'
03:15 Simon Peter answered," and here it is, James,
03:19 "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
03:23 This is the great testimony of Saint Peter.
03:28 "'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.'
03:31 Jesus replied, 'Blessed are you, Simon, son of Jonah,
03:36 for this was not revealed to you by man,
03:39 but by my Father in heaven.
03:41 And I tell you, you are Peter,
03:46 and on this rock I will build my church,
03:50 and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it.'"
03:54 Now any academy would tell me that the name Peter is Pathros.
03:58 And the name for the church is Petra
04:03 isn't that a play on words, isn't that Jesus saying,
04:05 that He's going to build it on Peter?
04:07 I think what Jesus is saying here is this,
04:09 you are Peter, and the word Peter of course
04:13 as you have rightly said can be interpreted rock. Yes.
04:18 But there are big rocks
04:19 and there are little rock also you know.
04:22 There are little tiny rocks that just roll around,
04:26 they're mighty rock, there's the rock of ages.
04:29 The church was not built upon Saint Peter
04:33 who later on denied his Lord
04:36 and the gates of hell prevailed against him.
04:39 It was built upon the great truth that Peter proclaimed
04:44 you're the Christ the son of the living God.
04:48 That great truth is the rock
04:51 on which the Christian church is built.
04:54 The Bible tells me that Jesus rose from the dead
04:58 and His home in glory and He's alive,
05:02 but Saint Peter is sleeping, waiting the resurrection.
05:08 I don't want to belong to a church
05:10 that is built upon a sleeping saint,
05:14 I want to belong to a church that is built upon
05:17 a risen triumphant very much alive Christ.
05:21 Now, come over here to 1 Corinthians 10:4.
05:30 The Bible says, "They all ate the same spiritual food
05:36 and drank the same spiritual drink,
05:39 for they drank from the spiritual rock
05:42 that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ."
05:46 All the way through the Bible, Christ, God Himself the rock,
05:53 the great rock of ages.
05:55 Peter is not the rock on which God has built His church.
06:00 God forbid the true church is not built upon man,
06:05 man's church is built upon man. Yes.
06:08 God's church is built upon God.
06:11 Now we have another question flowing on from that one,
06:14 from Xavier, 1.2 billion Catholics in the world
06:18 and they all believe that these been a sequential
06:21 succession of Apostles the Bishops.
06:25 Pope Frances is the latest example.
06:26 Yes. Seems a nice guy.
06:28 Yeah, and he's doing a lot of good things
06:31 and he says that Peter was the first Bishop of Rome?
06:34 So was he or was he not?
06:38 Here is the text and this is the great text
06:41 that Martin Luther quoted.
06:43 1 Corinthians 3, "For no one can lay any foundation
06:48 other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ."
06:55 No one can lay any other foundation
06:57 than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.
07:02 In the days of the Bible, in the days of Peter
07:06 they were no Popes, no Popes.
07:11 The papacy did not come into existence
07:14 until hundreds of years after Saint Peter.
07:18 The idea that Peter was the first Pope
07:22 is simply church tradition
07:24 and is not worth the paper it is written on.
07:30 What is more, Peter in the Bible had a mother-in-law. Yes.
07:36 You read about this where Jesus went and healed
07:40 the mother-in-law of Saint Peter.
07:44 James, it's dreadfully had to have
07:46 a mother-in-law without a wife.
07:49 Very true, very true and impossible.
07:51 So, Peter was a married man.
07:56 And yet one of the main factors of the papacy,
08:01 is that the Popes and the priest have got to be celibate
08:06 which is completely opposed to the teaching of the word of God.
08:11 Now we have got to make this very plain. Yes.
08:16 We love Roman Catholic people. Yeah.
08:18 And we respect Roman Catholic people,
08:21 we respect the Pope but our authority
08:25 is not the teaching of the church of Rome
08:27 or the teaching of any church.
08:30 It is solo scriptura and is scripture
08:33 and the idea that Peter was the first Pope
08:36 is simply a tradition of the church
08:39 and it is completely ironies and false.
08:43 So it's incredible, a few thousand years now
08:46 so many people, so what would you say to it a Catholic person
08:49 to help them understand this difference between tradition
08:53 and scripture, how can they see the light?
08:57 I find around the world that millions and millions,
09:02 tens of millions, probably hundreds of millions
09:05 of Earnest Roman Catholics are coming to believe
09:08 in the principle of solo scriptura. Yeah.
09:12 Which means only scripture because the church,
09:16 every church frequently contradicts itself.
09:19 The Roman Church is frequently contradicted itself.
09:23 They have changed their views and their ideas
09:27 so they don't publicly this.
09:29 But millions of Roman Catholics
09:31 are coming to the view point that Jesus taught.
09:34 It is written, "Man shall not live by bread alone
09:38 but by every word that proceeds
09:41 out of the mouth of God."
09:42 We must build upon the word of God
09:44 not upon the word of fallible men and women.
09:49 Now a well know Catholic is Piers Morgan from CNN.
09:53 He's a very opened Catholic believer.
09:57 But, he's not a very good one.
09:58 He's not a very good one. But he--
10:00 Because he doesn't believe what his church teaches.
10:02 Well, basically he is saying that
10:04 society has been changing so much
10:06 with the same sex marriage issue,
10:08 that perhaps the Bible is deficient
10:12 or needs a mending to adjust to our cultural times.
10:16 Is that, is that something that we should be doing?
10:20 That's why I said, he's maybe a very good man
10:23 and he's excellent interviewer. I enjoy him.
10:26 But he can't be a very good Catholic
10:29 because his Catholic church is automatically
10:32 taken a stand against same sex marriage.
10:36 If he's a Roman Catholic and he's sincere one
10:40 he should do what his church tells him to do
10:43 because that his the basis of being a Roman Catholic
10:47 to be obedient to the teachings of the church.
10:50 But James, there's a text in the Bible
10:54 that I doubt if our dear English friend knows much about.
11:00 He may but I doubt if he reads a great deal of the Bible.
11:05 I could be wrong of course.
11:08 Romans 3:2 says, "Much in every way!
11:13 First of all," he is talking about the Jewish people. Yes.
11:17 "They have been entrusted with the very words of God."
11:24 This book here consists
11:27 of the very words of God but in the words of men.
11:31 But nevertheless the thoughts are the very thoughts of God.
11:35 This is not an ordinary book. Yes.
11:37 Now, our friend of CNN says, I heard him say it,
11:41 he said it to a well known preacher of this country.
11:45 And he said, well, don't you think
11:47 we are to just change the Bible words says things
11:50 that we don't believe anymore.
11:51 No, we need to change the things that we're doing
11:54 that are concrete to the word of God.
11:56 Yes, yes.
11:57 But he uses some arguments that almost make sense.
12:00 He says, in the Bible it teaches that
12:03 that if a women is caught in the adultery that we are--
12:06 that person should be stoned, should be killed for that
12:09 and obviously he says that,
12:10 that is not a teaching that would make sense.
12:13 Of course, he's not quoting all the scripture.
12:15 He doesn't quote the New Testament, does he?
12:17 No, he doesn't.
12:18 And Jesus the Almighty the Son of God
12:20 interpreted the Old Testament
12:22 and there was a case where a women was brought
12:24 into the Lord's presence and she had been caught
12:27 by the Pharisees in the very act of adultery.
12:31 How would they catch her? Very true.
12:33 You know, how did they catch her?
12:35 Well we think that one of there cronies one of the Pharisees
12:39 was the one committing adultery with her so it was a set up.
12:44 Jesus said, "He who is without sin,
12:49 let him be the first to cast a stone at her."
12:54 Now another thing that my friend Mr. Morgan
12:56 perhaps should consider is this,
13:01 that the children of Israel in the Old Testament
13:05 lived under a different system to us.
13:09 They lived under a system which is called a theocracy.
13:16 Now many of our Muslims friends wish to set up a theocracy.
13:21 Some of the Middle Eastern countries
13:24 are theocracies like Saudi Arabia.
13:28 God is the actual head of the country
13:29 and the Quran is the law book
13:33 and so they judge people by Quran
13:36 because they do not understand
13:38 the separation of church and state.
13:40 But in the Old Testament for a period,
13:42 Pastor Venegas, of some 1500 years,
13:46 you have a system of church organization
13:49 which doesn't exist today. Yes.
13:52 It was the system of the theocracy
13:54 and laws were carried out and enforced.
13:58 So if you murdered you will put to death.
14:02 If you committed adultery
14:03 which was another sin, you'll put to death.
14:06 If you willingly openly broke the Sabbath you'll put to death.
14:10 Now on that thought, on that thought
14:12 we have some decisions being made by our own current law
14:16 and we're gonna discuss that in just a moment
14:18 after some very important announcements.
14:24 Hello friend, I am John Carter in Colombia.
14:29 Behind me is the great city of Bogota
14:32 the capital of this amazing country.
14:36 This city is a city of more than eight million souls.
14:42 It's up more than 8,000 feet in the Andes.
14:47 And we've come here today with one purpose in mind
14:51 to preach the everlasting gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
14:56 We are here because we have a commission from God.
15:00 Jesus said, "Go into all the world
15:03 and preach the Everlasting Gospel,
15:06 baptizing them in the name of the Father,
15:08 and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."
15:12 The people here need the gospel of Christ.
15:16 And I am asking you today come with us,
15:19 if not in body but come with us in spirit.
15:23 This is been a very, very dangerous city.
15:26 A very dangerous part of the world
15:28 but we believe that we are safe when we are in the hands of God.
15:34 Therefore I am beseeching you in the name of Christ
15:37 and in the name of these eight million plus inhabitants
15:42 in the city of Bogota to come
15:46 and help us to preach the word of God.
15:48 Please support the preaching of the word of God in Columbia.
15:52 Please write to me, John Carter, PO Box 1900,
15:57 Thousand Oaks, California, 91358.
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16:04 Terrigal, New South Wales, Australia.
16:08 Jesus said, "Work while it is day
16:11 the night is coming when no man can work."
16:15 Please write to me today.
16:17 Thank you, and God bless you.
16:26 And we're back with some more
16:27 "Fresh Hot Potatoes" with Pastor John Carter.
16:31 Now we have been talking about Piers Morgan Catholicism
16:33 and the changes that are happening in our society.
16:36 Well, lets get right to it, same sex marriage,
16:40 it's been gaining ahead of steam
16:41 and now has been virtually passed
16:43 this law in the State of California.
16:47 The Supreme Court has now revoked Prop 8
16:50 and Christians and everyone abound now to a law
16:55 that has been inactive by government.
16:57 You were telling us that in the Old Testament
16:59 there was a theocracy and God was the ruler
17:04 and everyone must obey.
17:05 What happens when you live in a Christian country
17:07 and these laws are inactive almost in God's name?
17:10 Are we bound to follow suit?
17:13 Jesus said, "Render the Caesar the things that be Caesar's."
17:18 And to God the thing that bigots,
17:22 a Christian has, Pastor Venegas, a true hierarchy of values.
17:30 God first, the law of God first others next.
17:36 Then you have got the state and the Supreme Court.
17:39 While we're citizens of the United of the America
17:43 or Australia or somewhere else
17:46 and while we're loyal citizens our first loyalty is to God.
17:53 And if the government should come along and tell us
17:56 to violate out consciousness we're duty bound to say,
18:00 no, we will serve God rather then serve men.
18:05 Peter said, I leave to you to judge.
18:09 Shall we obey you or shall we obey God?
18:13 Now the government, the Supreme Court,
18:18 I don't care who, the church, they do not have the right
18:24 to interfere with my religious beliefs.
18:30 And if I believe something according to scripture
18:33 then I will go with scripture
18:36 even though it maybe country to the law of man
18:40 and the Bible is very plain
18:42 as far as same sex marriage is concerned.
18:44 It is perfectly plain.
18:46 So it's different to a theocracy then this is a man made law.
18:50 Or some people would like to have a theocracy today.
18:53 It is been talked about for years in the greats, land of
18:57 the United States of America where we live.
18:59 It will be good if we had Christ to us as the king.
19:02 That we would have the laws of God being enforced.
19:07 No, no, that takes you back to the dark ages.
19:11 That's the very essence of antichrist.
19:15 The Bible doesn't teach that. The soul of man must be free.
19:21 And Christians have got to have the courage
19:23 and the gumption and the conviction to say
19:26 as for me and my house we will serve the Lord.
19:30 We respect the Supreme Court, we respect the presidency
19:36 but the Supreme Court cannot violate my religious rights.
19:40 Now on this you mentioned religious rights.
19:43 Some people would say that the Bible teaches
19:46 that everyone has a right to be equal. Yes, yes.
19:49 And so same sex marriages are defended on this basis
19:53 that it's biblical to respect people right
19:56 and to married to be equal in every way
19:58 to have all the federal benefits and everything like that,
20:01 what would you say with that?
20:04 I believe there are such things as civil rights.
20:09 I believe that we should respect people.
20:13 I have nothing but abhorrence for organizations or groups
20:19 that attack individuals on the basis
20:23 of there race or there sexuality.
20:26 I think that's abhorrent. Yeah.
20:30 I have seen churches in this country
20:33 with huge big signs up in the streets
20:36 calling people terrible names because of their sexuality.
20:40 I think that is so unlike the Lord Jesus Christ,
20:45 I believe this. Yeah.
20:48 So I believe in respecting people's civil rights.
20:54 But as a Christian who follows the Bible
20:57 I must teach the word of God.
21:01 My wife said to me sometime back she said,
21:03 the time will come soon when
21:05 there will be people going to prison again
21:09 because they disagree with the state or the state church
21:13 or whatever on certain religious beliefs.
21:18 We must be prepared to die
21:21 rather then give up our faith in the word of God
21:23 and the teachings of the Bible.
21:26 If the state or the Supreme Court has a law,
21:29 next week that says that polygamy is right.
21:34 And they have as much reason to pass that law
21:38 as I had to pass the law on same sex marriage.
21:42 As this brought out by-- what was one of U.S. news,
21:47 one of the papers I read a commentary.
21:51 They have this much right to pass the law condoning polygamy
21:56 or any of those things as same sex marriage.
22:01 But whatever they pass that does not affect by personnel beliefs.
22:08 And as a citizen of this country
22:10 I am at this very moment protected by the constitutions,
22:16 at this moment how long this is going to avail I don't know
22:19 but I am told in the bill of rights
22:22 the church and state ought to be separate
22:26 and the Congress should not pass any law favoring one religion
22:31 and they cannot force down my throat
22:36 some idea that I believe
22:38 is completely contratery to the word of God.
22:40 Now having said that I believe
22:42 we should respect the civil rights of all people.
22:45 Homosexuals, I don't care
22:47 who they are we should love people.
22:49 So you're saying that respect civil rights
22:50 but they has to be some moral absolutes.
22:52 Absolutely.
22:54 Now if America which was once founded by the pilgrims
22:57 and by the puritans, that let's go off the Bible
23:00 we have got a better dozen or more states now
23:03 going down this way.
23:05 We turn away from the Bible completely.
23:07 Do you think that America will survive, will endure?
23:10 This is the most contentious controversial issue
23:15 and people like to have the Pollyanna complex
23:18 where by they say we're the greatest
23:20 and we will always be the greatest.
23:23 So said the Romans. Yeah, yeah.
23:26 So said Spain until the Spanish Armada.
23:30 So said my old motherland and Mr. Morgan's motherland
23:37 Greater Britain. Yes.
23:38 But she's not so great anymore.
23:43 America's greatness is not her who nuclear arsenal,
23:50 America's greatness has been
23:52 her feudality to guard in the laws of God.
23:55 Now even though we don't believe in theocracy.
23:58 This nation was founded upon Christian-Judaea principles.
24:06 This is what the country was based upon.
24:09 You throw out this book
24:10 and if you throw out the Commandments of God
24:13 America will go down the same as the Roman Empire
24:17 and every other empire that is proceeded her.
24:19 That's what Ben Carson said to the president.
24:23 Let me read here a little passage here.
24:25 Jeremiah 36:10 and to the people who are watching out there
24:31 in television land, listen, verse 10 says.
24:35 "From the room of Gemariah son of Shaphan the secretary,
24:39 which was in the courtyard
24:41 at the entrance of the New Gate of the temple,
24:44 Baruch read to all the people at the Lord's temple
24:49 the words of Jeremiah from the scroll."
24:52 So he was reading the word of God.
24:56 And the king heard about this and the king said,
24:59 bring me this scroll and let me hear it.
25:02 You know what the scroll said,
25:04 because of the sins of the people of God
25:07 Jerusalem was going to be destroyed.
25:10 Wow So what was Jeremiah doing?
25:13 Well in the eyes of the people he was committing treachery.
25:18 He was saying that the Babylonians
25:21 were going to come and destroy the temple of God
25:25 and the city of Jerusalem, high treason.
25:29 Now, you come to verse 21,
25:34 "The king sent Jehudi to get the scroll,
25:38 and Jehudi brought it from the room of--"
25:41 it goes on goes on,
25:43 "It was the ninth month
25:44 and the king was sitting in the winter apartment
25:46 with a fire burning in the firepot in front of him.
25:51 When Jehudi had read three or four columns of the scroll,
25:56 the king cut them off with a scribe's knife
25:59 and threw them into the firepot,
26:03 until the whole scroll, the entire scroll
26:06 was burned in the fire."
26:08 And so as the word of God was read,
26:12 the mighty king and his presumption
26:15 took the scroll, cut it with the penknife
26:20 and throw it into the fire.
26:22 Many people today, Pastor Venegas,
26:24 are taking the word of God
26:25 and cutting it with their own penknife. Yeah.
26:29 They are throwing it into the fire.
26:30 You know what happened to their king?
26:31 What happened? And Jerusalem, destroyed.
26:36 The city was completely destroyed
26:38 and the people were eventually taken as salves into captivity.
26:44 They had an origin more illustrious
26:48 than the United State of America.
26:50 Then they were brought out of Egyptian bondage.
26:53 God gave them the Ten Commandments,
26:54 wrote it with His own finger.
26:58 They were the chosen people of God, the chosen city of God.
27:02 They were the Israel of God and yet they were destroyed
27:06 because they destroyed the word of God.
27:10 If America, any individual, any nation, any government
27:17 I don't care you can give any name to it,
27:19 takes the word of God and cuts it with penknife.
27:22 They will be responsive. There will consequences.
27:25 Yeah. Yes.
27:26 So what a tremendous warning for us living in these days.
27:29 Yeah, we shouldn't mess with God
27:30 and we shouldn't mess with the word of God.
27:32 And we shouldn't let culture lowered down the word of God.
27:36 No, but most people will.
27:38 Now Pastor Carter, we have had so many great questions today
27:42 and really reflecting where faith is
27:45 and where our culture is and importance of the word of God.
27:48 We want to thank you, for your time.
27:50 We love getting these fresh hot potato questions
27:53 and we love to answer them.
27:54 And there is more to come. And there is more to come.
27:56 And if you have any more questions
27:58 that you would like for Pastor Carter to answer
28:00 please write to us or go to our website
28:03 at carterreport.org
28:05 and we will present them here and we will answer them
28:07 and you will be able to hear what Pastor Carter has to say.
28:10 Thank you, very much for your time, Pastor Carter.
28:11 My pleasure.
28:12 God bless you, we will see you next time.
28:13 Thank you. Thank you for watching.


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