Participants: Pr. John Carter (Host), Dr. Hugh Ross, Dr. Fazale Rana
Series Code: CR
Program Code: CR001313
00:08 From Arcadia, California, the Carter Report presents
00:11 "The Living Word" around the world. 00:18 Hello friend, I am John Carter. 00:21 Welcome today to the Carter Report. 00:23 I have two great guests with me today 00:26 from "Reasons to Believe." 00:29 Dr. Hugh Ross, a noted astronomer 00:32 and Dr. Fazale Rana, who is a noted biologist. 00:36 We're going to talk today about 00:38 "The Big Bang and All That" stuff. 00:43 Welcome today. 00:47 Jesus said, "Go into all the world 00:49 and make disciples of all nations, 00:51 baptizing them in the name of the Father, 00:54 Son, and Holy Spirit." 00:55 The Carter Report team has therefore 00:58 accepted the challenge of worldwide evangelism. 01:01 Millions in Russia, Ukraine, the Philippines, Africa, 01:05 India, Australia, the United States, 01:08 and the Isles of the Sea 01:10 have heard the good news of Christ 01:12 as John Carter has proclaimed God's Living Word. 01:16 You are invited to be a part of the Carter team 01:19 by praying and by giving and when God calls by going. 01:23 Write a note now to Pastor John Carter, 01:26 PO Box 1900, Thousand Oaks, California 91358 01:32 or to PO Box 861, 01:35 Terrigal, NSW 2260, Australia. 01:40 Jesus said, "With God all things are possible." 01:48 Welcome today and welcome to you, Dr. Ross. 01:51 Thank you. 01:52 Welcome to you, Dr. Rana. Thank you. 01:56 You come from great organization here in Southern California. 01:59 It's called "Reasons to Believe." 02:04 What's it about "Reasons to Believe?" 02:07 Well, we're developing new reasons to believe 02:10 in Jesus Christ as Creator, Lord and Savior, 02:13 predominately from the Book of Nature. 02:16 You know, the Bible tells us God has given us two books, 02:18 the Book of Scripture and the Book of Nature. 02:22 And so Book of Nature 02:23 that reveals existence of God and His attributes 02:27 and we're living in a society 02:28 where lot of people aren't sure about whether or not God exist. 02:32 And if they are sure, 02:33 they're not sure what His attributes are. 02:35 So we're doing is developing new discoveries, 02:38 looking at new discoveries in the Book of Nature 02:41 as a way to introduce people to this Creator God, 02:45 persuade them this God exist 02:47 and basically use these new evidences 02:50 for the God of the Bible 02:52 as a bridge to the traditional evidences. 02:55 By profession, you are an astronomer. 02:57 Right. And by profession, you are-- 03:01 Biochemist. A biochemist. 03:03 I said, biologist before, so I was bit out, wasn't I? 03:07 Well, it's-- you know, 03:10 a biochemist is under the umbrella of a biologist. 03:12 So I was sort of right. 03:13 You were right. Yeah. 03:14 Only by accident, I can assure you. 03:17 Why did you become an astronomer? 03:20 Well, I was seven years of age 03:22 and wanted to know why the stars were hot. 03:25 And my parents told me to go to the library. 03:27 How did you know the stars were hot? 03:28 My parents told me they were hot. 03:30 And I wasn't satisfied with that. 03:31 I wanted to know why they were hot. 03:33 And that's what eventually caused me 03:36 to become an astronomer. 03:38 Will your parents believe this? No. 03:40 They didn't become believers until their late 70s. 03:44 But they were moral people. But they became believers. 03:46 They did become believers about 35 years 03:49 after I gave my life to Christ. 03:52 And then you studied astronomy where? 03:55 You got your doctorate where? 03:56 At the University of Toronto. I was raised in Canada. 04:00 And then also down the road here, 04:02 there is the-- this Caltech. 04:05 Yes, and after I got my PhD at the University of Toronto, 04:08 Caltech invited me to come and to do postdoctoral research. 04:13 And yeah, it's one of the finest institutions for that. 04:16 And the reason why I accepted their invitation, 04:18 they had the telescope. 04:19 I wanted to do my ongoing research. 04:22 Oh. Then tell me about this telescope? 04:24 Well, at that time it was rare 04:26 to have radio telescopes in high-altitude deserts. 04:30 And here in California, we have a high-altitude desert. 04:33 They had some great telescopes there 04:35 and I said, I've got a research program, I can-- 04:38 What did you basically research at Caltech? 04:42 Distinct galaxies and quasars. 04:45 I was very interested in the physics of the universe 04:47 when it's relatively young and how that leads 04:51 to the kind of galaxies that we have today 04:53 that would allow for the existence of life. 04:56 Faz, why did you become a biologist? 05:00 Well, I was enrolled 05:01 in a pre-med program as an undergraduate 05:05 and I took my first biology course, 05:06 the first question we dealt with was 05:09 the question, what is life? 05:11 And that was astounding to me 05:13 to know that or to come to learn that 05:15 that biologists couldn't define what life is. 05:19 And so that just got me very curious about what is life 05:22 and how does it all work at a basic level. 05:25 And so I gave up any interest in becoming a doctor 05:28 and I wanted to become a biochemist. 05:31 Where did you study? 05:33 My PhD was at Ohio University in Athens, Ohio 05:37 and then I also did postdoctoral fellowships 05:39 at the University of the Virginia 05:41 and the University of Georgia. 05:43 And you're a committed Christian? 05:45 I am, yes. 05:46 So you believe that that there is a-- 05:50 there's no incompatibility between science and scripture? 05:54 Yeah, I believe there is full harmony 05:56 between science and scripture, in fact-- 05:58 Or nature and scripture. Exactly. 06:00 Yes. That's a better way to say it. 06:03 And it was really my study of biochemical systems 06:06 that convinced me that these had to be 06:08 the work of a mind and that opened me up to 06:11 asking the really important questions, 06:14 who is that Creator 06:15 and how do I relate to the Creator. 06:18 Of course, if you talk to many people today 06:20 and particularly in some circles they'll tell you, 06:24 you can't be intellectually honest 06:26 and really believe the Bible. 06:28 How would you respond to that? 06:30 I think there is overwhelming evidence for God's existence 06:34 when it comes to the-- again the record of nature, 06:36 whether it's in astronomy or whether it's in biochemistry 06:41 in all disciplines in between, if you will. 06:43 And so you believe there are reasons to believe. 06:46 Yes, very good reasons to believe. 06:48 What a great title? 06:49 I wish we thought about it first, 06:51 we would have been using it at the Carter Report. 06:55 You're an astronomer? Yes. 06:58 Tell me about and tell us all about the Big Bang. 07:02 Now this is got bad connotations with not all Christians, 07:07 of course but some Christians have got bad feelings 07:12 towards the term the Big Bang. 07:16 What is the Big Bang? 07:17 I think they have these bad feelings, 07:19 because they have the wrong definition 07:22 or understanding of the Big Bang. 07:24 First of all the term, 07:26 Big Bang was applied to the theory 07:29 by a Hindu astronomer Fred Hoyle as a term of division. 07:35 So it was basically a marking term 07:37 and people get the idea that the Big Bang 07:40 is some chaotic explosion, it's the exact opposite. 07:43 Now he didn't believe in the Big Bang, did he? 07:46 He believed in the-- Did he? 07:47 No, not all. No. 07:49 He was very committed to study state. 07:51 Yeah, yeah. 07:52 And the reason why as he says, 07:53 you know, we accept this Big Bang, 07:55 the universe has got a beginning 07:57 and there's a beginning, there's a beginner. 07:59 And he was a Hindu. 08:00 Well, he had a Hindu worldview perspective. 08:01 Yeah. 08:02 And he was looking for some way to have the universe eternal 08:06 rather than having the brief period of time in Big Bang. 08:09 That's not a Christian view point, of course. 08:11 No. 08:12 And the Hindu view point says, 08:14 no beginning, no ending sort of thing of the universe. 08:16 Well, Hindu say that there's many beginnings. 08:20 And so the universe goes through repeated beginnings. 08:24 Cycles of 4.32 billion years between one and the next 08:29 and Fred Hoyle looked at Big Bang cosmology, 08:32 it's one beginning and it's a finite period of time. 08:37 And he was wanting infinite time 08:40 so we have time for evolution, 08:42 biological evolution to do his thing. 08:44 I mean, when the Big Bang Theory was first proposed, 08:48 astronomers who were non-theists says we can't go with this. 08:51 It doesn't allow us enough time 08:54 for the Darwinian biological evolutionary model to operate. 08:58 Tell me this again, because many of my friends-- 09:01 at least some of my friends say, 09:03 if you believe in the Big Bang, 09:05 this means that you believe really in evolution. 09:09 Because they think if you got billions of years 09:12 and that's going to be everything 09:14 that Darwinian model needs 09:16 where as astronomers were not naive on this. 09:19 They said that's only ten zeros. 09:22 And of all you got is billions of years, 09:24 there's no way to save the Darwinian model 09:26 for the origin of history of life. 09:27 And so for decades, 09:29 Zerotronic come up with some understanding of the universe 09:32 that would allow the universe 09:34 to be at least the quadrillion years old. 09:37 But eventually the evidence became overwhelming 09:40 that the universe has a beginning. 09:42 Has not just any kind of beginning, 09:44 it's a beginning of space and time itself. 09:47 Which is very much what the Bible says. 09:49 Well, normally is what the Bible says 09:51 is what the Bible uniquely states. 09:54 Of all the holy books religions of the world 09:56 where the Bible stands apart is saying 09:59 that God creates independent of space and time 10:03 rather than with in space and time. 10:05 How old is the universe? 10:08 Now you're an astronomer? Right. 10:11 How old is the universe? 10:13 Now some people think 10:15 the universe is only few thousands years old. 10:19 Of course, the Bible doesn't teach that, 10:20 that is simply a tradition of some churches. 10:24 But what is the evidence 10:26 that supports a very old universe? 10:30 Oh, there's many categories of evidences 10:33 where we get our most accurate measure 10:35 for the age of universe is by examining in detail 10:39 the radiation from the cosmic creation event. 10:42 That's the radiation leftover 10:44 from the universe come into existence. 10:47 And by carefully measuring that radiation, 10:50 we can determine that the universe 10:52 is 13.79 billion years old and the year bond 10:57 that is now only plus or minus, 0.05 billion. 11:00 So it's known to high degree of precision, 11:03 but you get the same date 11:04 if you were to use radiometric dating. 11:06 If you're to measure the expansion 11:08 rate of the universe, you get the same date 11:10 and no matter what technique we use, 11:12 like the burning history of stars, 11:14 you'll get the same date. 11:15 All the dates are consistent with that 13.79 billion. 11:21 This is what brought me to faith in Christ 11:23 is when I looked at the Bible 11:25 and I saw that it talk all the elements, 11:27 the foundational elements of Big Bang cosmology, 11:31 thousands of years before any astronomer even dreamed 11:34 that the universe had these characteristics. 11:37 It's not just that the Bible tells us 11:39 that the universe has a beginning, 11:42 it has a space, time beginning. 11:43 Space and time don't exist until God creates the universe. 11:47 And as much as a Bible says 11:49 about the beginning of the universe, 11:51 it says more about the expansion of the universe. 11:54 So the expanding universe concept 11:56 is embedded in the writings 11:58 of six different Old Testament prophets. 12:00 Then it tells us that it expands 12:02 under laws of physics that don't change, 12:05 where one of those laws is a pervasive law of decay. 12:08 As a young physics student I realized, 12:10 if the universe is expanding under laws that don't change, 12:14 or one of those laws is a pervasive law of decay, 12:18 that implies that the universe gets progressively 12:21 colder and colder as it gets older and older. 12:25 Cold and colder as it gets older and older. 12:28 In a numerically predictable way. 12:31 And you know what's exciting 12:32 is we astronomers now can measure 12:35 the past temperature of the universe. 12:37 Those past temperature measurements perfectly fit 12:40 what the Bible predicted thousands of years ago. 12:43 And also to-- talk to me about this Faz, 12:46 evolution says or atheist evolution 12:50 that life started from non-life. 12:54 Now if the universe 12:56 is of a relatively recent origin. 13:02 How does this affect our views 13:04 towards the evolution of life from non-life matter? 13:12 How does this influence our thinking? 13:13 Well, I mean even though 13:14 the universe is approximately 14 billion years in age, 13:18 you don't have that full length of time 13:20 for the origin of life. 13:21 You don't have the appropriate chemical elements 13:24 that you need for the origin of life 13:26 until the universe has at least existed 13:30 for approximately 10 billion years. 13:33 So you don't have as much time 13:35 as you think you might have 13:37 even if the universe is billions of years old. 13:40 And what's remarkable 13:41 is that when life appears, on earth it appears suddenly. 13:44 It's a dramatic event where you have 13:47 the very first life forms even though 13:49 they are single cell organisms 13:51 are incredibly complex from a biochemical standpoint. 13:54 So you go from nothing to an incredibly complex system. 13:59 Therefore, if I understand you both correctly, 14:03 you're saying that the-- the Big Bang Theory is really 14:08 the death sentence towards atheistic evolution. 14:14 Well, for example the latest book 14:16 written by an atheist physicist 14:19 "The Universe from Nothing" by Lawrence Krauss. 14:21 He says there in the book that we can no longer avoid 14:24 a deistic interpretation of reality. 14:27 Because of our compelling evidences 14:29 that the universe has a beginning 14:31 and there must be a causal agent beyond 14:33 space and time that brings the universe into existence. 14:37 And we'll be back after this short break. 14:44 Hello friend, I am John Carter in Colombia. 14:48 Behind me is the great city of Bogota, 14:51 the capital of this amazing country. 14:55 This city is a city of more than eight million souls. 15:01 It's up more than 8,000 feet in the Andes. 15:07 And we've come here today with one purpose in mind 15:11 to preach the everlasting gospel 15:13 of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15:15 We are here because we have a commission from God. 15:19 Jesus said, "Go into all the world 15:22 and preach the everlasting gospel, 15:25 baptizing them in the name of the Father, 15:28 and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." 15:31 The people here need the Gospel of Christ. 15:36 And I am asking you today come with us, 15:38 if not in body but come with us in spirit. 15:42 This has been a very, very dangerous city. 15:45 A very dangerous part of the world, 15:48 but we believe that we are safe 15:50 when we are in the hands of God. 15:53 Therefore, I am beseeching you in the name of christ 15:57 and in the names of these eight million plus inhabitants 16:01 in the city of Bogota 16:04 to come and help us to preach the word of God. 16:07 Please support the preaching of the word of God in Columbia. 16:12 Please write to me, John Carter, 16:14 PO Box 1900, 16:16 Thousand Oaks, California, 91358. 16:20 In Australia, write to me at the address, 16:23 Terrigal, New South Wales, Australia. 16:27 Jesus said, "Work while it is day 16:30 the night is coming when no man can work." 16:34 Please write to me today. 16:36 Thank you, and God bless you 16:45 Welcome back. 16:46 We're talking about 16:47 "The Big Bang and All That" stuff. 16:49 And we have two great guests with us today. 16:53 Welcome back, Dr. Ross and Dr. Rana. 16:57 Dr. Ross, how did you come 16:59 to believe in God, in a personal Creator? 17:01 You started out basically in an atheistic home. 17:05 Well, it's a moral home, 17:07 but it is a home where my parents didn't believe 17:09 that there was an afterlife. 17:12 No such thing as eternal life 17:15 but they thought that the Bible 17:16 had some good moral teachings, 17:17 although I didn't start reading the Bible till I was 17. 17:20 They motivated me to read the Bible 17:23 was becoming convinced from my studies in astronomy 17:26 that the universe had a beginning 17:27 and therefore beginner. 17:29 And I actually looked at 17:30 several different holy books of religions of the world. 17:33 But recognized that of all those holy books, 17:36 only the Bible was- had a teaching that was matching 17:40 what we're discovering in astronomy. 17:42 And so the fact that the Bible had, you know, 17:45 actually been a head of the scientist 17:48 by thousands of years and I spent two years 17:52 studying the Bible and realize that this book that we call 17:55 the Bible had accurately forecasts 17:58 at least 200 separate scientific discoveries, 18:01 hundreds and sometimes thousands 18:03 of years in advance of its time 18:06 that convinced me that this book had to be inspire 18:08 by the one that actually created this universe. 18:11 And that's what motivated me 18:13 to sign my name in the book of a Gideon Bible 18:16 at age 19 that I'm committing my life to Christ. 18:20 And then since that time realize every year 18:23 we're making new scientific discoveries 18:25 that actually made the case stronger for Christianity. 18:29 So there are reasons to believe. 18:30 Now Faz, how long have you been a Christian? 18:35 About 28 years now. 18:36 How did you become a Christian? 18:37 Again it was in graduate school 18:39 studying biochemistry convinced me-- 18:42 You were an unbeliever? I was an unbeliever. 18:45 Where you brought up as an unbeliever? 18:46 Oh, I had a very interesting upbringing. 18:49 My father was a Muslim 18:50 and my mom was a non-practicing Catholic. 18:53 And so when they married, 18:55 they agreed to disagree when it came to religion. 18:57 They're smart. Yes. 18:58 But the most of religious of my two parents was my father. 19:02 And so my parents left it up to my brother 19:05 and I to figure things out on our own. 19:08 And so by the time I was in college, 19:10 I pretty much was an agnostic. 19:12 But again studying biochemical systems 19:15 and the design convinced me there had to be a creator 19:18 and that open me up to begin to read through scripture. 19:21 Do you believe 19:22 that a person can have an actual relationship to God, 19:26 the relationship to the Creator? 19:28 Yeah, that's the thing, that's the most astounding is. 19:31 That is astounding, isn't it? 19:32 There's overwhelming evidence for a creator. 19:34 Because He's a very big God, isn't He? 19:37 He's an incredibly big God. 19:39 And He's very old. Yes. 19:41 We believe and the evidence 19:44 that the universe itself came into being 19:47 in a flash of light of the energy, 19:49 space, time, 13.7--what? 19:52 Nine billion years ago. 19:54 I thought it was 13.72 or has that been changed or--? 19:58 Yeah, there's new measurements 20:00 that just came out of few months ago 20:01 where they're able to measure it 20:03 with about 3 to 4 times more precision. 20:06 Is it true it was, we thought was 13.72? 20:09 Yes. Yeah. And now it's 13.79. 20:12 Yeah, well, the air bar is smaller now. 20:13 What is smaller? 20:15 Well, the uncertainty we have in our-- 20:18 Oh, I understand. 20:19 Is much smaller than it was back. 20:21 So it's almost 14 billion years old. 20:23 Yeah. 20:24 So first up, this is a-- 20:27 pardon, I even using a scientific term. 20:30 It's a quantum leap to believe-- 20:34 to discover He's such a big God. 20:36 Because He's older than 14 billion years, isn't He? 20:39 Yeah. 20:40 I mean, He was there before that, that's what God is. 20:44 Yeah, He's eternal in the past. 20:45 And when He created the universe, 20:47 He actually created it 20:48 with nine dimensions of space not just three. 20:51 So He's actually bigger than 10 space time dimensions. 20:54 So He's an incredibly big interesting God. 20:59 Yes. 21:02 Faz, you believe that a person 21:04 can actually have a relationship with this God. 21:07 Isn't this somewhat an astounding claim? 21:11 It is, but that's again in a sense of my journey 21:14 to faith in Christ is recognizing 21:18 that first there's a Creator 21:19 and then wondering who is that Creator, 21:21 how do I relate to the Creator? 21:23 And as I read through scripture, 21:25 I discovered that there's this person Jesus Christ, 21:28 who is the mediator 21:30 between human beings and that Creator 21:32 and it's through Jesus that we know the Creator. 21:34 How do you have a personal experience with God? 21:37 How do you personally? How does it work for you? 21:40 Well, it's first of all recognizing 21:43 that I'm a sinner and I'm in hopeless need of a Savior. 21:47 And it's the person of Jesus, 21:49 who is fully human but also fully God 21:53 who led a life that was without sin. 21:55 Who died on the cross for my sake 21:58 and is by putting my trust in what He did on the cross. 22:03 I believe this million percent. 22:04 Yes. 22:05 It's wonderful to hear scientist saying the same thing, 22:08 because there is not warfare, really is there? 22:15 Between, revelation and nature, 22:19 because God gave us both. 22:20 That's right. 22:21 And now this is absolutely wonderful. 22:24 Dr. Ross, how were the elements 22:27 that compose the universe formed? 22:30 Now in the beginning-- 22:33 Now you know, a trillion times 22:36 more about these things than I will ever hope to. 22:40 The universe when it was formed was there only hydrogen? 22:43 Yes, that was the only element 22:45 that existed when God created the universe 22:49 and as the universe expanded from the cosmic creation event. 22:52 Yes. It got cooler and cooler. 22:55 And there's a brief window about 20 seconds wide. 22:58 Colder and older. Yes, you got it. 23:00 There's a window about 20 seconds wide, 23:04 when the universe was at the temperature 23:06 where nuclear fusion can occur. 23:08 And during that 20 second window 23:10 about one quarter of all the hydrogen 23:12 was fused into helium. 23:15 And then that collected into stars much later 23:18 and stars that fuse the hydrogen, helium 23:22 into all the elements that we have today 23:25 and then you look at planet earth. 23:27 We have the full compliment of the elements, 23:30 98 elements that exists. 23:34 But every one of those elements is a normalness 23:37 compared to the rest of the universe. 23:39 Is it not true to say and once again, you know, 23:43 I'm a pastor, I'm not a scientist 23:44 but people who don't believe in God, 23:48 what they really force to believe in this 23:51 that if you leave hydrogen gas alone by itself long enough, 23:56 it'll become people singing and dancing. 24:00 Is this the bottom-line? 24:03 That is the bottom-line of atheistic worldview, 24:05 but they have to explain how it is that something 24:08 that has no life, no consciousness, 24:11 no personality, no spirituality, no emotion. 24:14 And only hydrogen at the start. 24:15 Yeah. 24:16 But if you leave it alone by itself long enough, 24:18 it'll become Faz and you and John. 24:22 Well, they're failing to realize 24:24 that John is far more complex than 50 billion, trillion stars. 24:29 They're just giant balls of gas. 24:30 Yes. They have no consciousness. 24:32 They have no life. 24:34 And how do you get something greater 24:36 from that which is lesser. 24:37 You know, a feeling of atheism 24:39 is it violates the principles that cause an affect. 24:42 You know, you cannot get greater affects 24:44 than the causes and this is the claim of atheism 24:48 that you go from something as no life whatsoever, 24:50 no consciousness, no spirituality, 24:53 no mind and it's able to make 24:55 that which has all of those features. 24:57 That's a tremendous step of faith, 25:00 isn't that to believe such an idea. 25:03 Right. 25:04 We don't like to denigrated but-- 25:06 or denigrate people's ideas, 25:08 but to this person it seems crazy 25:13 to think that if you leave something which is dead, 25:17 like hydrogen gas by itself for billions of years, 25:21 it'll become us. 25:23 And they're also failing to realize that there is a plan. 25:27 I mean, you look at our planet earth 25:28 that I was mentioning earlier, we have elemental abundances, 25:32 you don't see anywhere else. 25:34 And each one of those elemental abundances 25:36 has to be extraordinarily fine-tune 25:38 to make advance life possible. 25:40 Unless there is a planner with the mind 25:43 that knows exactly how to transform 25:45 those elements at the right time. 25:47 It's not going to work. 25:49 And likewise you look at the history of life 25:51 getting into Faz's discipline. 25:53 We have a long history of life here in planet earth, 25:55 but if you get that plan 25:58 slightly adjusted in a different way, 26:00 you will not get human beings. 26:01 You speak about the fine tuning in the universe, 26:05 tell me about it? 26:07 Well, every feature we look at the universe, 26:11 we see fine tuning to make possible 26:13 the existence of human beings. 26:15 I mean, even atheist physicists say 26:18 when you look at the universe, 26:19 there's overwhelming evidence has been designed 26:22 for the benefit of human beings. 26:24 Or as one part of Freeman Dyson 26:26 when you look at the universe, you can't avoid the conclusion 26:30 that somehow it knew we were coming. 26:32 It was designed and planned in advance for us human beings. 26:36 And we're looking at the degree of fine tuning design 26:39 that's orders of magnitude greater than anything 26:42 we human beings are capable of. 26:45 Give me one illustration. You tell me once about-- 26:48 When I first met you, you held up a dime 26:51 which in Australia would be like 26:54 a five cent piece or ten cent piece. 26:58 Tell me in the last 60 seconds. 27:02 Tell me about the dime, the mass of the universe. 27:06 Well, both the mass of the universe 27:08 must be fine-tuned and feature called 27:10 dark energy must be fine-tuned. 27:13 And the fine tuning is crucial 27:15 when the universe is extremely young. 27:17 And in the absence of dark energy 27:19 if you were add, say a coin's worth of mass 27:22 to the universe or subtract a coin 27:25 that'll be enough to upset the balance. 27:28 But now that we know 27:29 the dark energy is a dominant component, 27:31 we see even greater fine tuning in dark energy 27:34 in order to have planets in which life is possible. 27:38 For a lay person that's almost incomprehensible. 27:41 But what you're saying if you add a dime 27:44 to the mass of the universe, it doesn't work. 27:48 This to me is an incredible evidence 27:51 that there must be a Creator God. 27:54 And, dear friend, 27:56 I want you to write to us at the Carter Report. 27:59 Write to me John Carter, PO Box 1900, 28:02 Thousand Oaks, California 91358. 28:05 And in Australia write to the address 28:08 at Terrigal, now appearing on the screen. 28:10 And also you can write to "Reasons to Believe," 28:14 which is 818, Oak Park Road, 28:19 Covina, CA, 91724. 28:22 Did I get that right? You got that right. 28:24 Yes. And we'll see you soon next time. |
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