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The Big Bang and All That

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Participants: Pr. John Carter (Host), Dr. Hugh Ross, Dr. Fazale Rana

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00:08 From Arcadia, California, the Carter Report presents
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00:18 Hello friend, I am John Carter.
00:21 Welcome today to the Carter Report.
00:23 I have two great guests with me today
00:26 from "Reasons to Believe."
00:29 Dr. Hugh Ross, a noted astronomer
00:32 and Dr. Fazale Rana, who is a noted biologist.
00:36 We're going to talk today about
00:38 "The Big Bang and All That" stuff.
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01:48 Welcome today and welcome to you, Dr. Ross.
01:51 Thank you.
01:52 Welcome to you, Dr. Rana. Thank you.
01:56 You come from great organization here in Southern California.
01:59 It's called "Reasons to Believe."
02:04 What's it about "Reasons to Believe?"
02:07 Well, we're developing new reasons to believe
02:10 in Jesus Christ as Creator, Lord and Savior,
02:13 predominately from the Book of Nature.
02:16 You know, the Bible tells us God has given us two books,
02:18 the Book of Scripture and the Book of Nature.
02:22 And so Book of Nature
02:23 that reveals existence of God and His attributes
02:27 and we're living in a society
02:28 where lot of people aren't sure about whether or not God exist.
02:32 And if they are sure,
02:33 they're not sure what His attributes are.
02:35 So we're doing is developing new discoveries,
02:38 looking at new discoveries in the Book of Nature
02:41 as a way to introduce people to this Creator God,
02:45 persuade them this God exist
02:47 and basically use these new evidences
02:50 for the God of the Bible
02:52 as a bridge to the traditional evidences.
02:55 By profession, you are an astronomer.
02:57 Right. And by profession, you are--
03:01 Biochemist. A biochemist.
03:03 I said, biologist before, so I was bit out, wasn't I?
03:07 Well, it's-- you know,
03:10 a biochemist is under the umbrella of a biologist.
03:12 So I was sort of right.
03:13 You were right. Yeah.
03:14 Only by accident, I can assure you.
03:17 Why did you become an astronomer?
03:20 Well, I was seven years of age
03:22 and wanted to know why the stars were hot.
03:25 And my parents told me to go to the library.
03:27 How did you know the stars were hot?
03:28 My parents told me they were hot.
03:30 And I wasn't satisfied with that.
03:31 I wanted to know why they were hot.
03:33 And that's what eventually caused me
03:36 to become an astronomer.
03:38 Will your parents believe this? No.
03:40 They didn't become believers until their late 70s.
03:44 But they were moral people. But they became believers.
03:46 They did become believers about 35 years
03:49 after I gave my life to Christ.
03:52 And then you studied astronomy where?
03:55 You got your doctorate where?
03:56 At the University of Toronto. I was raised in Canada.
04:00 And then also down the road here,
04:02 there is the-- this Caltech.
04:05 Yes, and after I got my PhD at the University of Toronto,
04:08 Caltech invited me to come and to do postdoctoral research.
04:13 And yeah, it's one of the finest institutions for that.
04:16 And the reason why I accepted their invitation,
04:18 they had the telescope.
04:19 I wanted to do my ongoing research.
04:22 Oh. Then tell me about this telescope?
04:24 Well, at that time it was rare
04:26 to have radio telescopes in high-altitude deserts.
04:30 And here in California, we have a high-altitude desert.
04:33 They had some great telescopes there
04:35 and I said, I've got a research program, I can--
04:38 What did you basically research at Caltech?
04:42 Distinct galaxies and quasars.
04:45 I was very interested in the physics of the universe
04:47 when it's relatively young and how that leads
04:51 to the kind of galaxies that we have today
04:53 that would allow for the existence of life.
04:56 Faz, why did you become a biologist?
05:00 Well, I was enrolled
05:01 in a pre-med program as an undergraduate
05:05 and I took my first biology course,
05:06 the first question we dealt with was
05:09 the question, what is life?
05:11 And that was astounding to me
05:13 to know that or to come to learn that
05:15 that biologists couldn't define what life is.
05:19 And so that just got me very curious about what is life
05:22 and how does it all work at a basic level.
05:25 And so I gave up any interest in becoming a doctor
05:28 and I wanted to become a biochemist.
05:31 Where did you study?
05:33 My PhD was at Ohio University in Athens, Ohio
05:37 and then I also did postdoctoral fellowships
05:39 at the University of the Virginia
05:41 and the University of Georgia.
05:43 And you're a committed Christian?
05:45 I am, yes.
05:46 So you believe that that there is a--
05:50 there's no incompatibility between science and scripture?
05:54 Yeah, I believe there is full harmony
05:56 between science and scripture, in fact--
05:58 Or nature and scripture. Exactly.
06:00 Yes. That's a better way to say it.
06:03 And it was really my study of biochemical systems
06:06 that convinced me that these had to be
06:08 the work of a mind and that opened me up to
06:11 asking the really important questions,
06:14 who is that Creator
06:15 and how do I relate to the Creator.
06:18 Of course, if you talk to many people today
06:20 and particularly in some circles they'll tell you,
06:24 you can't be intellectually honest
06:26 and really believe the Bible.
06:28 How would you respond to that?
06:30 I think there is overwhelming evidence for God's existence
06:34 when it comes to the-- again the record of nature,
06:36 whether it's in astronomy or whether it's in biochemistry
06:41 in all disciplines in between, if you will.
06:43 And so you believe there are reasons to believe.
06:46 Yes, very good reasons to believe.
06:48 What a great title?
06:49 I wish we thought about it first,
06:51 we would have been using it at the Carter Report.
06:55 You're an astronomer? Yes.
06:58 Tell me about and tell us all about the Big Bang.
07:02 Now this is got bad connotations with not all Christians,
07:07 of course but some Christians have got bad feelings
07:12 towards the term the Big Bang.
07:16 What is the Big Bang?
07:17 I think they have these bad feelings,
07:19 because they have the wrong definition
07:22 or understanding of the Big Bang.
07:24 First of all the term,
07:26 Big Bang was applied to the theory
07:29 by a Hindu astronomer Fred Hoyle as a term of division.
07:35 So it was basically a marking term
07:37 and people get the idea that the Big Bang
07:40 is some chaotic explosion, it's the exact opposite.
07:43 Now he didn't believe in the Big Bang, did he?
07:46 He believed in the-- Did he?
07:47 No, not all. No.
07:49 He was very committed to study state.
07:51 Yeah, yeah.
07:52 And the reason why as he says,
07:53 you know, we accept this Big Bang,
07:55 the universe has got a beginning
07:57 and there's a beginning, there's a beginner.
07:59 And he was a Hindu.
08:00 Well, he had a Hindu worldview perspective.
08:01 Yeah.
08:02 And he was looking for some way to have the universe eternal
08:06 rather than having the brief period of time in Big Bang.
08:09 That's not a Christian view point, of course.
08:11 No.
08:12 And the Hindu view point says,
08:14 no beginning, no ending sort of thing of the universe.
08:16 Well, Hindu say that there's many beginnings.
08:20 And so the universe goes through repeated beginnings.
08:24 Cycles of 4.32 billion years between one and the next
08:29 and Fred Hoyle looked at Big Bang cosmology,
08:32 it's one beginning and it's a finite period of time.
08:37 And he was wanting infinite time
08:40 so we have time for evolution,
08:42 biological evolution to do his thing.
08:44 I mean, when the Big Bang Theory was first proposed,
08:48 astronomers who were non-theists says we can't go with this.
08:51 It doesn't allow us enough time
08:54 for the Darwinian biological evolutionary model to operate.
08:58 Tell me this again, because many of my friends--
09:01 at least some of my friends say,
09:03 if you believe in the Big Bang,
09:05 this means that you believe really in evolution.
09:09 Because they think if you got billions of years
09:12 and that's going to be everything
09:14 that Darwinian model needs
09:16 where as astronomers were not naive on this.
09:19 They said that's only ten zeros.
09:22 And of all you got is billions of years,
09:24 there's no way to save the Darwinian model
09:26 for the origin of history of life.
09:27 And so for decades,
09:29 Zerotronic come up with some understanding of the universe
09:32 that would allow the universe
09:34 to be at least the quadrillion years old.
09:37 But eventually the evidence became overwhelming
09:40 that the universe has a beginning.
09:42 Has not just any kind of beginning,
09:44 it's a beginning of space and time itself.
09:47 Which is very much what the Bible says.
09:49 Well, normally is what the Bible says
09:51 is what the Bible uniquely states.
09:54 Of all the holy books religions of the world
09:56 where the Bible stands apart is saying
09:59 that God creates independent of space and time
10:03 rather than with in space and time.
10:05 How old is the universe?
10:08 Now you're an astronomer? Right.
10:11 How old is the universe?
10:13 Now some people think
10:15 the universe is only few thousands years old.
10:19 Of course, the Bible doesn't teach that,
10:20 that is simply a tradition of some churches.
10:24 But what is the evidence
10:26 that supports a very old universe?
10:30 Oh, there's many categories of evidences
10:33 where we get our most accurate measure
10:35 for the age of universe is by examining in detail
10:39 the radiation from the cosmic creation event.
10:42 That's the radiation leftover
10:44 from the universe come into existence.
10:47 And by carefully measuring that radiation,
10:50 we can determine that the universe
10:52 is 13.79 billion years old and the year bond
10:57 that is now only plus or minus, 0.05 billion.
11:00 So it's known to high degree of precision,
11:03 but you get the same date
11:04 if you were to use radiometric dating.
11:06 If you're to measure the expansion
11:08 rate of the universe, you get the same date
11:10 and no matter what technique we use,
11:12 like the burning history of stars,
11:14 you'll get the same date.
11:15 All the dates are consistent with that 13.79 billion.
11:21 This is what brought me to faith in Christ
11:23 is when I looked at the Bible
11:25 and I saw that it talk all the elements,
11:27 the foundational elements of Big Bang cosmology,
11:31 thousands of years before any astronomer even dreamed
11:34 that the universe had these characteristics.
11:37 It's not just that the Bible tells us
11:39 that the universe has a beginning,
11:42 it has a space, time beginning.
11:43 Space and time don't exist until God creates the universe.
11:47 And as much as a Bible says
11:49 about the beginning of the universe,
11:51 it says more about the expansion of the universe.
11:54 So the expanding universe concept
11:56 is embedded in the writings
11:58 of six different Old Testament prophets.
12:00 Then it tells us that it expands
12:02 under laws of physics that don't change,
12:05 where one of those laws is a pervasive law of decay.
12:08 As a young physics student I realized,
12:10 if the universe is expanding under laws that don't change,
12:14 or one of those laws is a pervasive law of decay,
12:18 that implies that the universe gets progressively
12:21 colder and colder as it gets older and older.
12:25 Cold and colder as it gets older and older.
12:28 In a numerically predictable way.
12:31 And you know what's exciting
12:32 is we astronomers now can measure
12:35 the past temperature of the universe.
12:37 Those past temperature measurements perfectly fit
12:40 what the Bible predicted thousands of years ago.
12:43 And also to-- talk to me about this Faz,
12:46 evolution says or atheist evolution
12:50 that life started from non-life.
12:54 Now if the universe
12:56 is of a relatively recent origin.
13:02 How does this affect our views
13:04 towards the evolution of life from non-life matter?
13:12 How does this influence our thinking?
13:13 Well, I mean even though
13:14 the universe is approximately 14 billion years in age,
13:18 you don't have that full length of time
13:20 for the origin of life.
13:21 You don't have the appropriate chemical elements
13:24 that you need for the origin of life
13:26 until the universe has at least existed
13:30 for approximately 10 billion years.
13:33 So you don't have as much time
13:35 as you think you might have
13:37 even if the universe is billions of years old.
13:40 And what's remarkable
13:41 is that when life appears, on earth it appears suddenly.
13:44 It's a dramatic event where you have
13:47 the very first life forms even though
13:49 they are single cell organisms
13:51 are incredibly complex from a biochemical standpoint.
13:54 So you go from nothing to an incredibly complex system.
13:59 Therefore, if I understand you both correctly,
14:03 you're saying that the-- the Big Bang Theory is really
14:08 the death sentence towards atheistic evolution.
14:14 Well, for example the latest book
14:16 written by an atheist physicist
14:19 "The Universe from Nothing" by Lawrence Krauss.
14:21 He says there in the book that we can no longer avoid
14:24 a deistic interpretation of reality.
14:27 Because of our compelling evidences
14:29 that the universe has a beginning
14:31 and there must be a causal agent beyond
14:33 space and time that brings the universe into existence.
14:37 And we'll be back after this short break.
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16:45 Welcome back.
16:46 We're talking about
16:47 "The Big Bang and All That" stuff.
16:49 And we have two great guests with us today.
16:53 Welcome back, Dr. Ross and Dr. Rana.
16:57 Dr. Ross, how did you come
16:59 to believe in God, in a personal Creator?
17:01 You started out basically in an atheistic home.
17:05 Well, it's a moral home,
17:07 but it is a home where my parents didn't believe
17:09 that there was an afterlife.
17:12 No such thing as eternal life
17:15 but they thought that the Bible
17:16 had some good moral teachings,
17:17 although I didn't start reading the Bible till I was 17.
17:20 They motivated me to read the Bible
17:23 was becoming convinced from my studies in astronomy
17:26 that the universe had a beginning
17:27 and therefore beginner.
17:29 And I actually looked at
17:30 several different holy books of religions of the world.
17:33 But recognized that of all those holy books,
17:36 only the Bible was- had a teaching that was matching
17:40 what we're discovering in astronomy.
17:42 And so the fact that the Bible had, you know,
17:45 actually been a head of the scientist
17:48 by thousands of years and I spent two years
17:52 studying the Bible and realize that this book that we call
17:55 the Bible had accurately forecasts
17:58 at least 200 separate scientific discoveries,
18:01 hundreds and sometimes thousands
18:03 of years in advance of its time
18:06 that convinced me that this book had to be inspire
18:08 by the one that actually created this universe.
18:11 And that's what motivated me
18:13 to sign my name in the book of a Gideon Bible
18:16 at age 19 that I'm committing my life to Christ.
18:20 And then since that time realize every year
18:23 we're making new scientific discoveries
18:25 that actually made the case stronger for Christianity.
18:29 So there are reasons to believe.
18:30 Now Faz, how long have you been a Christian?
18:35 About 28 years now.
18:36 How did you become a Christian?
18:37 Again it was in graduate school
18:39 studying biochemistry convinced me--
18:42 You were an unbeliever? I was an unbeliever.
18:45 Where you brought up as an unbeliever?
18:46 Oh, I had a very interesting upbringing.
18:49 My father was a Muslim
18:50 and my mom was a non-practicing Catholic.
18:53 And so when they married,
18:55 they agreed to disagree when it came to religion.
18:57 They're smart. Yes.
18:58 But the most of religious of my two parents was my father.
19:02 And so my parents left it up to my brother
19:05 and I to figure things out on our own.
19:08 And so by the time I was in college,
19:10 I pretty much was an agnostic.
19:12 But again studying biochemical systems
19:15 and the design convinced me there had to be a creator
19:18 and that open me up to begin to read through scripture.
19:21 Do you believe
19:22 that a person can have an actual relationship to God,
19:26 the relationship to the Creator?
19:28 Yeah, that's the thing, that's the most astounding is.
19:31 That is astounding, isn't it?
19:32 There's overwhelming evidence for a creator.
19:34 Because He's a very big God, isn't He?
19:37 He's an incredibly big God.
19:39 And He's very old. Yes.
19:41 We believe and the evidence
19:44 that the universe itself came into being
19:47 in a flash of light of the energy,
19:49 space, time, 13.7--what?
19:52 Nine billion years ago.
19:54 I thought it was 13.72 or has that been changed or--?
19:58 Yeah, there's new measurements
20:00 that just came out of few months ago
20:01 where they're able to measure it
20:03 with about 3 to 4 times more precision.
20:06 Is it true it was, we thought was 13.72?
20:09 Yes. Yeah. And now it's 13.79.
20:12 Yeah, well, the air bar is smaller now.
20:13 What is smaller?
20:15 Well, the uncertainty we have in our--
20:18 Oh, I understand.
20:19 Is much smaller than it was back.
20:21 So it's almost 14 billion years old.
20:23 Yeah.
20:24 So first up, this is a--
20:27 pardon, I even using a scientific term.
20:30 It's a quantum leap to believe--
20:34 to discover He's such a big God.
20:36 Because He's older than 14 billion years, isn't He?
20:39 Yeah.
20:40 I mean, He was there before that, that's what God is.
20:44 Yeah, He's eternal in the past.
20:45 And when He created the universe,
20:47 He actually created it
20:48 with nine dimensions of space not just three.
20:51 So He's actually bigger than 10 space time dimensions.
20:54 So He's an incredibly big interesting God.
20:59 Yes.
21:02 Faz, you believe that a person
21:04 can actually have a relationship with this God.
21:07 Isn't this somewhat an astounding claim?
21:11 It is, but that's again in a sense of my journey
21:14 to faith in Christ is recognizing
21:18 that first there's a Creator
21:19 and then wondering who is that Creator,
21:21 how do I relate to the Creator?
21:23 And as I read through scripture,
21:25 I discovered that there's this person Jesus Christ,
21:28 who is the mediator
21:30 between human beings and that Creator
21:32 and it's through Jesus that we know the Creator.
21:34 How do you have a personal experience with God?
21:37 How do you personally? How does it work for you?
21:40 Well, it's first of all recognizing
21:43 that I'm a sinner and I'm in hopeless need of a Savior.
21:47 And it's the person of Jesus,
21:49 who is fully human but also fully God
21:53 who led a life that was without sin.
21:55 Who died on the cross for my sake
21:58 and is by putting my trust in what He did on the cross.
22:03 I believe this million percent.
22:04 Yes.
22:05 It's wonderful to hear scientist saying the same thing,
22:08 because there is not warfare, really is there?
22:15 Between, revelation and nature,
22:19 because God gave us both.
22:20 That's right.
22:21 And now this is absolutely wonderful.
22:24 Dr. Ross, how were the elements
22:27 that compose the universe formed?
22:30 Now in the beginning--
22:33 Now you know, a trillion times
22:36 more about these things than I will ever hope to.
22:40 The universe when it was formed was there only hydrogen?
22:43 Yes, that was the only element
22:45 that existed when God created the universe
22:49 and as the universe expanded from the cosmic creation event.
22:52 Yes. It got cooler and cooler.
22:55 And there's a brief window about 20 seconds wide.
22:58 Colder and older. Yes, you got it.
23:00 There's a window about 20 seconds wide,
23:04 when the universe was at the temperature
23:06 where nuclear fusion can occur.
23:08 And during that 20 second window
23:10 about one quarter of all the hydrogen
23:12 was fused into helium.
23:15 And then that collected into stars much later
23:18 and stars that fuse the hydrogen, helium
23:22 into all the elements that we have today
23:25 and then you look at planet earth.
23:27 We have the full compliment of the elements,
23:30 98 elements that exists.
23:34 But every one of those elements is a normalness
23:37 compared to the rest of the universe.
23:39 Is it not true to say and once again, you know,
23:43 I'm a pastor, I'm not a scientist
23:44 but people who don't believe in God,
23:48 what they really force to believe in this
23:51 that if you leave hydrogen gas alone by itself long enough,
23:56 it'll become people singing and dancing.
24:00 Is this the bottom-line?
24:03 That is the bottom-line of atheistic worldview,
24:05 but they have to explain how it is that something
24:08 that has no life, no consciousness,
24:11 no personality, no spirituality, no emotion.
24:14 And only hydrogen at the start.
24:15 Yeah.
24:16 But if you leave it alone by itself long enough,
24:18 it'll become Faz and you and John.
24:22 Well, they're failing to realize
24:24 that John is far more complex than 50 billion, trillion stars.
24:29 They're just giant balls of gas.
24:30 Yes. They have no consciousness.
24:32 They have no life.
24:34 And how do you get something greater
24:36 from that which is lesser.
24:37 You know, a feeling of atheism
24:39 is it violates the principles that cause an affect.
24:42 You know, you cannot get greater affects
24:44 than the causes and this is the claim of atheism
24:48 that you go from something as no life whatsoever,
24:50 no consciousness, no spirituality,
24:53 no mind and it's able to make
24:55 that which has all of those features.
24:57 That's a tremendous step of faith,
25:00 isn't that to believe such an idea.
25:03 Right.
25:04 We don't like to denigrated but--
25:06 or denigrate people's ideas,
25:08 but to this person it seems crazy
25:13 to think that if you leave something which is dead,
25:17 like hydrogen gas by itself for billions of years,
25:21 it'll become us.
25:23 And they're also failing to realize that there is a plan.
25:27 I mean, you look at our planet earth
25:28 that I was mentioning earlier, we have elemental abundances,
25:32 you don't see anywhere else.
25:34 And each one of those elemental abundances
25:36 has to be extraordinarily fine-tune
25:38 to make advance life possible.
25:40 Unless there is a planner with the mind
25:43 that knows exactly how to transform
25:45 those elements at the right time.
25:47 It's not going to work.
25:49 And likewise you look at the history of life
25:51 getting into Faz's discipline.
25:53 We have a long history of life here in planet earth,
25:55 but if you get that plan
25:58 slightly adjusted in a different way,
26:00 you will not get human beings.
26:01 You speak about the fine tuning in the universe,
26:05 tell me about it?
26:07 Well, every feature we look at the universe,
26:11 we see fine tuning to make possible
26:13 the existence of human beings.
26:15 I mean, even atheist physicists say
26:18 when you look at the universe,
26:19 there's overwhelming evidence has been designed
26:22 for the benefit of human beings.
26:24 Or as one part of Freeman Dyson
26:26 when you look at the universe, you can't avoid the conclusion
26:30 that somehow it knew we were coming.
26:32 It was designed and planned in advance for us human beings.
26:36 And we're looking at the degree of fine tuning design
26:39 that's orders of magnitude greater than anything
26:42 we human beings are capable of.
26:45 Give me one illustration. You tell me once about--
26:48 When I first met you, you held up a dime
26:51 which in Australia would be like
26:54 a five cent piece or ten cent piece.
26:58 Tell me in the last 60 seconds.
27:02 Tell me about the dime, the mass of the universe.
27:06 Well, both the mass of the universe
27:08 must be fine-tuned and feature called
27:10 dark energy must be fine-tuned.
27:13 And the fine tuning is crucial
27:15 when the universe is extremely young.
27:17 And in the absence of dark energy
27:19 if you were add, say a coin's worth of mass
27:22 to the universe or subtract a coin
27:25 that'll be enough to upset the balance.
27:28 But now that we know
27:29 the dark energy is a dominant component,
27:31 we see even greater fine tuning in dark energy
27:34 in order to have planets in which life is possible.
27:38 For a lay person that's almost incomprehensible.
27:41 But what you're saying if you add a dime
27:44 to the mass of the universe, it doesn't work.
27:48 This to me is an incredible evidence
27:51 that there must be a Creator God.
27:54 And, dear friend,
27:56 I want you to write to us at the Carter Report.
27:59 Write to me John Carter, PO Box 1900,
28:02 Thousand Oaks, California 91358.
28:05 And in Australia write to the address
28:08 at Terrigal, now appearing on the screen.
28:10 And also you can write to "Reasons to Believe,"
28:14 which is 818, Oak Park Road,
28:19 Covina, CA, 91724.
28:22 Did I get that right? You got that right.
28:24 Yes. And we'll see you soon next time.


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