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Plain Talk -part 3: Why So Many Adventist College Students in Favor of Same-Sex Marriage?

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00:04 The Carter Report presents Plain Talk with John Carter.
00:16 Hello, friend. I'm John Carter.
00:19 Welcome today to the Carter Report.
00:22 This is a brand new program, is called Plain Talk.
00:27 Now, I don't know why,
00:29 but people say I give plain talk.
00:32 And so I'm going to give some more plain talk today.
00:35 And I'm going to be answering questions
00:37 that have come in around the world.
00:40 Welcome, my friend to Plain Talk.
00:46 Hi, I'm John Carter.
00:48 My wife, Beverley and I were watching
00:49 television the other night,
00:51 watching the news, American News.
00:53 They told us that the church
00:55 in North America is actually shrinking.
00:58 They said that atheism is the fastest growing
01:00 religious movement today in North America.
01:03 And people are saying,
01:04 "What on earth can we do to save the church."
01:07 Well, of course, Christ died for the church,
01:09 He saved the church.
01:10 But what I mean is, "How can we keep the church
01:13 as a vibrant force in the world today
01:15 in Australia, in America, and in Europe
01:18 and in the rest of the world?"
01:19 Let me tell you a little story.
01:21 John Wesley was one of the greatest preachers
01:23 that the English speaking world has ever heard.
01:26 John Wesley came upon the scene of the,
01:28 of the church in England a few hundred years ago,
01:31 when the church was dying like the church today,
01:34 it was a shrinking church.
01:36 But the people in the church were in the state of denial.
01:39 They refused to accept the reality
01:41 that the church was dying.
01:43 John Wesley did something
01:45 that other people said couldn't be done.
01:47 He revived the church through public evangelism.
01:51 Did you hear that? He started to preach Christ.
01:54 He preached the Bible
01:55 and he preached out of doors and indoors
01:58 and the church was saved.
02:00 Not only did he save a lot of souls,
02:02 the souls of sinners,
02:04 he saved the souls of the saints.
02:08 Please join me, my friend, in evangelism,
02:13 it's what Jesus did.
02:16 Write to me John Cater, Post Office Box 1900,
02:19 Thousand Oaks, California.
02:21 In Australia, write to me at the address
02:24 on the screen at Terrigal, in New South Wales.
02:28 Join me, my friend, in preaching Christ.
02:32 Join me in public evangelism around the world.
02:37 Thank you in Jesus' name.
02:47 Why is it that many Adventist college students
02:51 are in favor of same sex marriage?
02:53 Well, I've been told it is so.
02:55 It came out in some magazine articles that were sent to me.
03:00 So I think, it may be true
03:02 but this is the trend today in America,
03:07 in Australia, and around the world,
03:10 with the exception, of course, of Russia.
03:14 I guess, it is because
03:16 they want to be politically correct,
03:18 and they don't want to offend people.
03:22 The best motive I can give is that,
03:24 I guess, they've got friends who are homosexuals,
03:28 and they're nice people.
03:30 And they say, "Well, you know,
03:31 why can't we all be... all can't be same.
03:35 " There could be another reason of course,
03:37 and that is they don't understand
03:39 what the Bible says.
03:41 They may be, they do, but you know,
03:42 I don't know their hearts,
03:44 I don't know their, their abilities.
03:46 But let me read you a text, if I can find it here today.
03:49 As we are giving some plain talk, and.
03:53 I'm so glad that you've joined me today for this plain talk.
03:57 I'm going to the Book of Romans Chapter 1.
04:01 And it says, verse 26,
04:05 "They worshiped and served created things
04:07 rather than the Creator who is forever praised."
04:11 Now, here it comes.
04:15 "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts.
04:18 Even their women exchanged
04:21 natural relations for unnatural ones.
04:25 In the same way
04:27 the man also abandoned natural relations with women
04:31 and were inflamed with lust for one another.
04:34 Men committed indecent acts with other men,
04:38 and received in themselves
04:40 the due penalty for their perversion."
04:48 I don't need to apologize for the Bible, do I?
04:51 Some people say,
04:53 "You've got to be a bigot to read that text."
04:55 Well, I'm sorry, my friend, I never wrote the Bible.
04:59 The last time I checked, this was the Word of God.
05:04 Now, you got the right to your opinion.
05:07 You've got the right to disagree with me.
05:10 But let me tell you something,
05:12 I've got the right to believe the Bible,
05:14 and I've got the right to have my own convictions.
05:18 And I've got the right to follow Jesus Christ.
05:21 And Jesus said, "In the beginning,
05:24 God made them male and female.
05:29 There is no such thing as gay marriage.
05:34 And does God love homosexuals? Absolutely.
05:38 Do homosexuals have the right to their opinion?
05:40 Absolutely.
05:41 Do they have the right to do what they want to do?
05:44 Yeah, God gave them the ability to choose.
05:47 And this is plain talk,
05:48 so they've got those privileges.
05:52 God gave it to them, the right of freedom of speech.
05:55 But I want to tell everybody today,
05:57 I've got the right to freedom of speech also.
06:01 I've got the right to give some plain talk.
06:04 And I'd like to say to all the young people
06:06 who are watching the television program,
06:09 stop trying to be politically correct,
06:12 and be God correct.
06:14 And become intelligently informed,
06:17 and get to know what the Bible teaches.
06:21 Why do believers not call God by his right name 'Yahweh'?
06:26 That is true.
06:27 The, the name of the Almighty God
06:30 is Y-A-H-W-E-H.
06:33 And we say it's Yahweh.
06:35 In the King James version, it is translated Jehova
06:41 which is not the, the best way of saying it.
06:45 Well, people say, "No, no, no. That's, that's how we say it.
06:48 well, let's have some plain talk here.
06:51 And let me read you a text out of the Bible
06:53 Exodus 3:13, ready?
06:58 "Moses said to God,
07:00 'Suppose I go to the Israelites to say to them,
07:02 The God of your fathers has sent me to you,
07:04 and they ask me, what is his name?
07:07 And what shall I tell them?'
07:08 God said to Moses, 'I am who I am.
07:12 This is what you are to say to the Israelites:
07:14 I am has sent me to you.'
07:17 God also said to Moses, 'Say that Israelites,
07:20 The Lord or Yahweh, the Jehova,
07:24 the God of your fathers,
07:25 the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac
07:26 and the God of Jacob has sent me to you..."'
07:30 Now, listen carefully.
07:32 I'm gonna tell you, in the Old Testament,
07:35 the name of God was so revered,
07:39 so honored, and so respected,
07:42 that those people didn't like to use his name.
07:45 It was such a dreadful name,
07:49 that means it filled them with dread, with awe
07:52 and reverence to the Almighty God.
07:56 And when the Rabbis,
07:57 when they were copying the scriptures,
07:59 when they came to that name, 'Yahweh',
08:02 they would wash their hands
08:04 and take a fresh pen, fresh ink.
08:08 Boy! We've come a long way from that,
08:10 when you hear people today blaspheming the name of God,
08:13 it's a wonder, God doesn't strike them down.
08:16 And when you come through to the New Testament,
08:19 you find that Jesus doesn't use the word
08:21 'Yahweh' at all.
08:23 He spoke about God and he called him My Father.
08:27 My Father, he said.
08:29 "You want to know how to pray," he said,
08:30 "Pray this way, Our father, who is in heaven."
08:35 And so you don't have to be using the name 'Yahweh'.
08:38 You can say Our Father,
08:40 My Father, that's what Jesus said.
08:43 And then, in other parts of the New Testament,
08:45 because it's written in Greek,
08:47 it doesn't use the word 'Yahweh',
08:49 but it uses the word, Lord, Kyrios means master.
08:54 But the most important thing, my friend,
08:56 is that you follow Him and that you obey his Word.
09:00 That's plain talk. How can I study the Bible?
09:05 I'm a new believer living in New York
09:07 where it's not really easy to be a Christian?
09:10 Yeah, it's not easy to be a Christian
09:11 in Los Angeles either.
09:13 Is it easy to be a Christian anywhere?
09:15 Tell me where it's easy to be a Christian.
09:17 It's not easy to be a Christian.
09:20 Jesus said, is it Matthew Chapter 4,
09:25 I think in the Bible.
09:28 Matthew 4, Jesus said, "It is written,
09:32 'Man shall not live by bread alone,
09:35 but by every word that precedes out of the mouth of God.'''
09:38 You're going to die spiritually,
09:41 physically, every way.
09:44 Want to know what's wrong with the human race?
09:46 The problem with the human race is that they're dying
09:49 because they're not feeding on the Word of God.
09:52 This is the Word of God.
09:54 And what I'm going to tell you is plain talk,
09:56 and it's tough talk.
09:58 Here it is.
10:00 It's not always easy to read the Bible.
10:02 And the main reason people don't read the Bible
10:05 is because they're lazy
10:07 and because they don't discipline themselves.
10:09 If you want to become strong,
10:12 if you want to become a new person,
10:14 start with the gospels,
10:16 the most important part of the Bible.
10:18 Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John,
10:20 you say that's the most important part.
10:21 Of course it is. It's a part about Jesus.
10:25 It's where you have the actual words of Jesus,
10:28 the most important part.
10:30 Most important part of the Bible
10:31 is not the book of chronicles, it's not the genealogies.
10:35 It's Matthew, Mark Luke, and John.
10:38 Start to read the gospels.
10:40 Read the Bible for 30 minutes a day.
10:43 Oh, you say, "It's hard."
10:46 Hey, do you want to be helped
10:48 or don't you want to be helped?
10:50 If you want to be helped,
10:51 you've got to discipline yourself
10:53 and say, "I know, it's gonna be tough,
10:55 but I'm going to discipline myself.
10:58 And I'm going to read the Bible for 30 minutes a day.
11:02 And I'm going to read it prayerfully.
11:04 And I'm going to concentrate."
11:06 And if you do that, my friend,
11:09 a miracle is going to happen in your life.
11:16 Where is the land of Nod,
11:18 mentioned in the Book of Genesis?
11:21 Oh, that is a tough one, isn't it?
11:24 Let me see if I can help you with this one.
11:29 I'm not absolutely certain I can,
11:31 but I think I can point you in the right direction.
11:35 I'm going to come over here,
11:37 in my Bible to the Book of Genesis.
11:39 Now, do I believe in the Book of Genesis?
11:41 Absolutely. Do I believe, it's inspired?
11:44 Absolutely.
11:46 Do I believe, it's the Word of God?
11:47 Yes, I do.
11:50 Now, it says Genesis 4:16,
11:54 "So Cain went out from the Lord's presence
11:58 and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden."
12:03 So the land of Nod was east of Eden.
12:09 Now, if we come to Genesis 2 and verses 8 and onwards,
12:15 it gives us a clue as to where Eden was.
12:19 It says, "Now the Lord God had planted a garden
12:22 in the east, in Eden,
12:23 there he put the man he had formed."
12:26 And verse 10 says,
12:27 "A river watering the garden flowed from Eden,
12:30 separated into four headwaters.
12:33 The name of the first is Pishon,
12:35 it winds through the entire land of Havilah,
12:37 where there is gold.
12:39 The gold of that land is good,
12:40 aromatic resin and onyx are also there.
12:44 The name of the second river is the Gihon,
12:47 it winds through the entire land of Cush."
12:50 So that's down towards Iran, Egypt.
12:53 "The name of the third river is the Tigris,
12:55 it runs along the east side of Ashur."
12:57 That's what we'd call Iraq today.
13:00 "And the fourth river is Euphrates."
13:04 That sort of the area of the Middle East,
13:09 that's wear Adam lived, that's wear Adam died,
13:14 and that's where the second Adam came.
13:16 And that's where he died also.
13:20 So we're talking basically east of the Middle East.
13:25 I can't be definite about this, but this gives us just an idea.
13:32 But the interesting truth is,
13:34 is that Adam sinned and died in that part of the world.
13:40 And Jesus came to that part of the world,
13:43 and he overcame the devil.
13:45 And he died on the cross for our sins.
13:49 If you believe in Him, you'll be saved.
13:53 That's plain talk.
13:57 God has His time and His place for everything.
14:03 And the time and the place now
14:05 is Latin America, including Cuba.
14:10 Time Magazine talks about
14:12 the second Protestant Reformation
14:15 and describes how hundreds of thousands,
14:18 even millions of Latinos
14:21 are coming to the Gospel of Christ.
14:25 I'm not an armchair theologian.
14:28 I'm speaking according to experience.
14:30 I've seen it with my own eyes.
14:34 Recently, we went down to El Salvador.
14:38 There I spoke in the largest football stadium
14:41 in Central America, with the biggest crowd
14:44 that, that football stadium had ever, ever seen.
14:48 They came not to see a football match,
14:51 but to hear about the blood of Christ.
14:54 Millions are coming
14:56 to our knowledge of God in Latin America.
15:00 Doors are opening in Cuba.
15:04 Who knows, we may be going to Cuba soon.
15:07 As the doors open by the grace of God,
15:11 we are going to step through those doors.
15:14 And we want you to step through those doors with us
15:18 and be part of our team for such a time as this.
15:22 Please write to me friend, don't put it off.
15:25 Write to me John Carter, Post Office Box 1900,
15:30 Thousand Oaks, California, 91358.
15:34 In Australia, write to me at Terrigal, New South Wales.
15:39 Be part of the second Reformation.
15:43 Join us and see the miracles of God.
15:48 Amen.
15:58 Who or what were the hominids? Are they our ancestors?
16:03 What about the Neanderthals?
16:05 Well, the hominids were ape like creatures
16:09 that lived a long time ago.
16:11 And they are not our ancestors.
16:15 We came from the very hand of God.
16:19 I got a magazine here.
16:21 I just want to share it with you,
16:23 it's called Ebenezer Magazine.
16:27 And I wrote an article in Ebenezer Magazine entitled,
16:32 The Bible and Science.
16:34 But you can get this if you write to us,
16:37 and especially if you support our work in evangelism.
16:41 Now, let me see if I can find this article.
16:43 Yes.
16:45 Professor Leaky was a famous, famous paleontologist.
16:51 He discovered a creature in Africa, by the name of Lucy.
16:55 And he said Lucy is our direct ancestor.
16:59 We came from this monkey like creature,
17:03 by the name of Lucy.
17:06 But before he died, Professor Leaky
17:08 had this to say, now, this is sort of amazing.
17:11 This is on page 43 of Ebenezer.
17:14 "If pressed about man's ancestry,
17:17 I would have to unequivocally say
17:19 that all we have is a huge question mark.
17:23 To date, there has been nothing found
17:25 to truthfully purport,
17:28 as a transitional species to man, including Lucy...
17:32 If further pressed, I would have to say
17:34 that there is more evidence to suggest
17:39 an abrupt arrival of man
17:41 rather than a gradual process of evolution."
17:47 Now, he sounds like he believes the Bible.
17:50 Of course, he didn't believe the Bible.
17:52 He was an evolutionist
17:54 and he was an atheistic evolutionist.
17:57 He may have thought there was an unseen power,
17:59 I'm not absolutely certain.
18:01 But he says, "Lucy was not our ancestor."
18:05 I know where we came from, the Bible says,
18:08 "We came from the first couple, Adam and Eve.
18:13 In fact, today's scientists are saying
18:14 that the whole of the human race
18:16 can be traced back to a single couple
18:20 who lived somewhere in Africa or the Middle East.
18:23 Man came from the hand of God.
18:26 Now the Neanderthals, well, they were not hominids.
18:31 They were a distinct part, I believe, of the human race.
18:36 They're no longer living, but the--
18:40 These people, the Neanderthals were exactly what I said.
18:44 They were people.
18:46 And years ago, thousands of years ago,
18:49 they disappeared, they were wiped out.
18:52 Maybe Homo Sapiens destroyed them.
18:55 I don't know.
18:56 But the Neanderthals were certainly not hominids.
18:59 And the hominids were not the ancestors
19:02 of the human race.
19:03 We came from the hand of God, that's the truth.
19:07 What is theistic evolution?
19:09 And are you a theistic evolutionist?
19:13 Am I a theistic evolutionist? I'm not an evolutionist.
19:17 And I'm not a theistic evolutionist.
19:20 I believe in the Bible.
19:23 And I believe in the Book of Genesis.
19:27 I believe that we were made by the hand of God.
19:31 Now, what is a theistic evolutionist?
19:34 A theistic evolutionist
19:36 is a person who believes in God,
19:38 but a person who believes in neo-Darwinism.
19:41 A theistic evolutionist is a person
19:44 who believes that the human race arose
19:47 not by chance, but by God.
19:51 And then through the process of gradual changes,
19:55 evolved into Homo sapiens
19:57 and all the species, we see around us.
20:01 Now, are there some wonderful Christians
20:04 who are theistic evolutionist?
20:06 Absolutely.
20:09 John Stott, the famous British theologian,
20:13 Francis Collins who has being called
20:17 the greatest scientist in the world.
20:19 He was the person who was in charge
20:21 of the Human Genome Project.
20:25 A person who wrote the book, what's the name of it?
20:28 The Language of God. He believes in God.
20:34 He trusts in Christ for salvation.
20:36 He believes that we're lost without Christ.
20:39 He's a Christian, but he is an evolutionist.
20:44 I believe in micro-evolution.
20:46 Hey, you know the difference, don't you?
20:48 Don't be confused on this. Micro and Macro.
20:52 Macro is where you have human beings coming from
20:58 another species entirely, a great step.
21:02 And that we all came back, we're all related,
21:04 we all go back to some primordial cell in some ocean,
21:10 billions of years ago.
21:11 No, no, no. That's evolution.
21:15 I do not believe in evolution,
21:17 and I will tell you why I don't believe in evolution.
21:19 I don't believe in evolution because I think, it's wrong.
21:23 And I've got a ton of evidence,
21:25 why I don't believe in evolution,
21:27 that's plain talk.
21:30 How old do you believe the universe is?
21:34 Well, really, it doesn't matter what I believe at all, does it?
21:37 People say, "How old do you think the universe is?"
21:39 Well, I am not an astronomer and I'm not a scientist.
21:44 I'm a preacher of the gospel.
21:46 I'm a pastor. I'm an evangelist.
21:50 But God has given me a brain
21:52 that still seems to be working okay.
21:57 And I believe, there is such a thing
22:00 as true scientific discoveries.
22:05 I think every astronomer in the world today,
22:09 any qualified astronomer,
22:12 believes that the universe itself
22:15 was born in a flash of light and energy
22:19 13.82 billion years ago.
22:24 Or somebody, who doesn't understand
22:26 these things would cry out,
22:27 "Oh, no, no, John Carter, that's evolution.
22:30 No, we've got nothing to do with evolution.
22:34 In fact, this belief, now that the universe
22:38 had a beginning, in relatively recent times,
22:42 is about the strongest argument against evolution.
22:46 And people who say the creation of the universe
22:49 13.82 billion years ago,
22:52 shows that a person believes in evolution,
22:54 just doesn't know.
22:56 Just hasn't studied it.
22:58 Now, astronomers will tell you
23:00 and I've studied this a fair bit.
23:01 I'll tell you that the universe is expanding,
23:04 almost now at the speed of light.
23:07 And by calculating the expansion right,
23:10 going out like a giant cracker,
23:12 they can work back to the very beginning.
23:16 And there was a time, not so many decades ago,
23:21 when no scientists believe
23:22 that the universe had an abrupt beginning.
23:26 Einstein, Hubble, the whole lot of them believed
23:28 in the theory that is called the steady state.
23:32 They believed in the eternity of matter.
23:35 And then they discovered
23:36 that the universe had a beginning,
23:39 which is exactly what the Bible says,
23:41 in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
23:46 Now, an intelligent Christian
23:50 will believe in the words of the Bible.
23:54 And he'll also believe in valid scientific discoveries.
24:02 What should I do
24:03 if I have reason to believe that a church member
24:05 or official is guilty of child abuse?
24:10 Well, now, we know what's happened
24:13 in the Roman Catholic Church.
24:16 We know what's happened in United States of America.
24:19 We know what's happened in Ireland.
24:21 We know about the dreadful cover up.
24:26 I mean, words fail me.
24:30 The hundreds of thousands of children
24:32 that have been molested by clergyman.
24:36 What a disgrace? What an abomination?
24:40 And what happened for many, many years...
24:42 And I think Pope Francis
24:43 is trying to rectify this somewhat.
24:47 He's been a bit slow
24:49 but I think he's trying to rectify it somewhat.
24:52 You know, why the previous pope resigned.
24:54 Don't you.
24:55 Because he couldn't get a handle
24:57 on this tremendous scandal.
25:03 The Catholic Church and other organizations
25:05 what they would do, they're engaged in a cover up.
25:08 Protestant churches have done the same too,
25:10 but not as bad as the Catholic Church.
25:13 And so they would cover it up
25:15 and they'd send the priest to another parish.
25:18 And he'd abuse a bunch of other kids
25:21 and then he'd get caught, and they'd pass him on.
25:25 A lot of those priests today are in prison.
25:29 And the people who covered up, if they are not in prison,
25:32 they ought to be in prison.
25:33 If you think that a person is abusing a child
25:36 in your church, you need to report it
25:41 to the state authorities and to the church authorities.
25:46 You ought to report it to both authorities,
25:49 to the government.
25:51 Don't be part of a cover up, that's a dreadful sin.
25:55 And report it to the church authorities too.
25:58 And that person who has engaged in pedophilia
26:02 needs to be fired by the church
26:05 and sent to prison for a long, long, long time.
26:12 We must defend our children.
26:16 In Matthew 24:34,
26:20 Jesus talks about a "generation"
26:21 that will see the coming of Christ.
26:24 Can you please explain what Christ is talking about?
26:28 I wish, I could read Matthew 24.
26:30 We're going to run out of time in this segment
26:32 before we go to a message.
26:34 But Matthew 24 is a dual prophecy.
26:37 It talks about the destruction of Jerusalem
26:39 that happened in 70 AD and that, wait for this,
26:44 this was a type of the end of the world.
26:48 What happened in 70 AD to Jerusalem
26:51 and to the Jewish people
26:53 is going to be repeated on a worldwide scale.
26:58 That's the truth.
27:00 Abomination of desolation is going to come and stand
27:03 in the Holy place again.
27:04 There's going to be a time of trouble such as never was.
27:08 As there was a generation in the days of Jesus
27:12 that saw the destruction of the Jewish nation in 70 AD,
27:18 so there is going to be a final generation of believers
27:23 who are going to see the end of the world,
27:26 the great tribulation, the great time of trouble,
27:30 the persecution, the abomination of desolation.
27:34 And they're going to see the end of this world
27:37 as we understand it.
27:39 And they are going to see the coming of the Lord.
27:43 There will be a final generation.
27:49 Now, the good news is this that even though
27:51 the world is seeing a dreadful miss,
27:54 some would say it's becoming like hell,
27:56 Jesus is going to come.
27:59 And Jesus is going to have His people,
28:02 and there's going to be a resurrection.
28:05 And the saints of God are going to be victorious.
28:08 And the saints of God are going to go home to glory.
28:13 That's the truth.
28:15 And it's the plain truth.
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