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The Russian / Ukrainian Experience Part 1

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00:01 Hello, friend. I am John Carter.
00:04 I've just come back from Russia.
00:06 It was my 43rd visit to that land.
00:11 I'm gonna tell you today about Putin's Russia.
00:14 And the amazing things I've found today
00:18 happening in Russia,
00:19 because I saw the power of God.
00:22 Welcome today to the Carter Report
00:25 and The Russian Experience.
00:31 Hello, friend, I am John Carter here in Russia.
00:35 It is a cold day.
00:38 This is my 43rd visit to the old lands
00:42 of the Soviet Union.
00:44 Thank God, that evil empire is gone.
00:49 And I am here today, because God has called me
00:51 to Russia and Ukraine,
00:53 to preach the everlasting gospel
00:56 of our Lord, Jesus Christ.
00:58 It's great to be back.
01:01 I first came here in the year 1971,
01:06 and I came as a boy,
01:08 and I came as a tourist just to have a look.
01:12 I returned 20 years later in the year 1992, 1991,
01:19 not as a tourist but as an evangelist.
01:23 And I came to the great city of Moscow.
01:26 We conducted the first ever evangelist campaign by
01:31 a foreigner in the old Soviet Union.
01:35 We held the meetings in the palace of culture,
01:38 just down the road from the Kremlin.
01:41 These were days of grace, and glory,
01:45 and mighty power.
01:48 The meeting started at 10 o'clock in the morning,
01:51 and they finished 10 o'clock at night,
01:53 with only time out
01:55 for a little bit of bread and water.
01:58 We had a tremendous choir but better still,
02:01 we had a tremendous audience.
02:04 I was talking to an audience basically of atheists,
02:08 communists with a few believers.
02:12 And when I made altar calls for Jesus,
02:15 the people would break down and weep.
02:18 They were hearing the gospel of Christ
02:21 for the first time,
02:23 and they were just filled with amazement.
02:26 I can never forget those days.
02:29 And then the next year, it was 1992,
02:36 I came here to Nizhny Novgorod
02:39 or the city which used to be called Gorky
02:42 after the famous Russian poet.
02:46 In faith, we hired the great Palace of Sports.
02:51 The old communist director said to me,
02:53 "Mr. Carter, this is going to be
02:56 a failure because no one is going to come."
03:00 He said, "We've taught the people here
03:02 not even to think about Him, He doesn't exist in our minds."
03:08 But when we open those meetings a few months later,
03:11 the crowds was so great
03:13 that that old director was almost killed
03:16 in the rush of people there.
03:18 It was amazing.
03:20 When I came down to the auditorium,
03:23 I couldn't get in my self.
03:25 The Russian army had to take me to the meetings.
03:29 The people broke down the doors,
03:32 they smashed the windows,
03:35 and we had tremendous opposition too,
03:37 days of grace, and glory, and opposition.
03:42 The great state church sent along ruffians,
03:45 and they had smoke bombs, and they had fire bombs,
03:48 and I was preaching with smoke bombs all around me
03:52 and our believers were putting out the fires.
03:56 We saw the power of God.
03:58 The place was filled with tens of thousands of atheists
04:02 and communists and unbelievers.
04:06 But I want you to know today,
04:08 listen to this.
04:09 The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the power of God
04:13 unto salvation to everyone who believes.
04:17 That is why I am here today to preach that same gospel.
04:21 And when I preach the gospel back there,
04:23 we saw hundreds of thousands of people come,
04:27 come to Christ.
04:29 I want you to know this, I have seen the latter rain.
04:35 I have seen the mighty outpouring
04:38 of the spirit of God.
04:39 I've seen hundreds of thousands of atheists
04:44 and communists come to Christ.
04:47 This is my 43rd visit.
04:52 You say, "Why do you come? Why do you go there?
04:55 Is it because you like the climate?"
04:58 I come here my friend because of the need.
05:01 These people still have a tremendous need.
05:04 Please support our work here.
05:06 Write to me John Carter, PO Box 1900 Thousand Oaks,
05:11 California 91358.
05:13 In Australia, write to me at Terrigal,
05:17 in the name of Jesus, please support us
05:21 in this great work, amen.
05:32 Welcome to the Carter Report and the Russian Experience.
05:36 I'm privileged to have with me today my wife Beverley.
05:40 Beverley, I'm glad that you're with me today.
05:45 How many times, Beverley, have you been to Russia?
05:50 I've been over 20 times with you.
05:53 And some of my first impressions of course,
05:56 I was impressed at first that God should give us
05:59 this opportunity to go to the former Soviet Union
06:03 just as it as communism was falling back in the 90s, 91.
06:07 One of the greatest blessings of our lives together
06:11 when we went to Moscow.
06:14 Do you remember the year?
06:16 1991. 1991.
06:19 And there weren't any cars on the roads
06:21 and that was one of the things that impressed me,
06:23 no cars except some two or three small cars,
06:27 I forget the name.
06:28 I think there was a car call the Moskvitch.
06:31 That was it.
06:32 I think it was partially made out of wood.
06:34 Yes, they were very small.
06:37 And this was before the Volgas,
06:38 before they started making
06:40 the Volga which was a bigger car.
06:41 Yeah.
06:42 And also another impression was no food in the shops,
06:45 and of course what had happened
06:46 the Soviets had spent all their money
06:49 making weapons of war.
06:51 And so they had gone broke. Yes.
06:53 And you had people we saw them lined up
06:56 to get bread and cheese and that was something
06:59 and also another thing that impressed me Igle,
07:02 our translator took us to his home,
07:05 and in that time people couldn't choose where to live.
07:09 They were told to live in a certain small apartments,
07:13 the apartment, the one that we went to
07:15 was no bigger than this room.
07:17 Yes.
07:18 And there were three families living there.
07:20 Using the same toilet.
07:22 Well, that's right.
07:23 And they couldn't choose who they lived with.
07:24 No.
07:26 Certain people were just told to go there
07:28 and they had the kitchen were small,
07:29 you could only fit about two people in.
07:31 The bathroom, it could only fit one person in.
07:33 And then so,
07:35 they took turns cooking their foods and food.
07:38 And then, they would go into their bedroom
07:40 which was also their eating room.
07:43 And that's where they took us.
07:45 And you'll remember that in those days,
07:47 the doors, they weren't wooden,
07:49 they were curtains separating these rooms,
07:51 so no privacy.
07:52 Not a lot of privacy. Things have changed
07:55 Yes, I know.
07:57 Now, you've just come back from your 43rd visit there.
08:00 So what is changed? And what did you...?
08:02 What impressed you about in the time?
08:05 lots of motorcars, lots of great hotels,
08:08 lot of apparent prosperity.
08:11 But there are still
08:12 the aching void in the hearts of these people
08:17 because of atheism, and communism,
08:20 and false religious systems.
08:22 And so, that's why I've gone and that's why you've gone too.
08:27 Not because we agree,
08:29 necessarily with the Russian government.
08:32 But we want to reach these people for Christ.
08:36 The door opened. Yes.
08:38 And God led us to go through in there.
08:40 I'm so thrilled about that
08:42 and the things that happened there were just miraculous now.
08:45 Then you went down to Nizhny Novgorod.
08:47 Yes, I did.
08:49 That was one of our highlights of our work in Russia.
08:52 Beverley, '91, we ran the first ever evangelistic campaign
08:55 by foreigners in the old Soviet Union.
08:58 You know, hallelujah.
08:59 And that was Moscow.
09:01 Yeah, glory hallelujah.
09:02 Just down the road from the Kremlin.
09:04 And then, we book the Kremlin
09:05 but we never got to the Kremlin.
09:08 It got, it got taken from us, you can talk to Danny Shelton
09:11 about this because he knows the story.
09:14 He was our partner there.
09:16 And then the next year, we went to Gorky which is now
09:20 called Nizhny Novgorod.
09:23 And there we saw the mighty power of God.
09:28 I've just come back from Nizhny, Beverley.
09:31 And I'm almost overwhelmed by how God has blessed this work.
09:36 And '92. '92.
09:38 Just tell us again, what happened?
09:40 Well, since '92 my hair has turned white.
09:44 Your's seems to be doing okay.
09:45 My hair's too, but I get a little bit of help.
09:47 You don't want to confess those things on television.
09:50 But what you see here is what you get.
09:53 What happened in '92?
09:57 Oh, dear Lord, we saw the power of God.
10:00 It was miraculous.
10:02 We saw the greatest crowds attending evangelistic meetings
10:05 in the history of the Soviet Union.
10:08 Thousands, tens of thousands inside,
10:11 tens of thousands outside,
10:13 people breaking down the doors,
10:16 people breaking into the windows
10:19 and then the largest baptism in the history of Russia,
10:22 in the Volga River.
10:25 A church is established.
10:26 The people were looking for something,
10:27 because I think
10:29 what had happened as I look back now,
10:31 that communism at least structured their lives.
10:34 Yes, yes.
10:35 Even though it wasn't good, a good structure.
10:38 But once communism fell,
10:39 and though many of them were atheists,
10:42 they had no belief in God, they were left with nothing.
10:45 There was a terrible void there.
10:48 Let's, let me talk about this void.
10:49 Because somebody you talk to me last night,
10:53 Alexander Solzhenitsyn.
10:55 He spoke about the void caused by atheism.
10:58 Somebody said,
10:59 Stalin ripped the heart out of the Russian people.
11:03 Atheism, what a curse it was.
11:06 Tens of millions of people murdered
11:09 in the name of communism,
11:11 and in the in the name of atheism.
11:15 And when we went there, there was this tremendous void.
11:19 People were so hungry for God.
11:23 And I was thrilled because as you well know
11:26 I used to stand behind the curtain...
11:27 You were there, yes.
11:29 Behind the curtain praying right through.
11:30 We head out the groups praying around the hall too.
11:33 But, that they would come in
11:35 and their eyes was so full of hopelessness
11:38 Yes. They look so sad, but then...
11:40 Yes, depressed
11:42 With the translator you opened up the word of God
11:44 and you gave them evidence from archaeology
11:46 to believe the Bible.
11:48 And then from then you could tell them,
11:50 "Well, there is a God." Yes.
11:52 "There is the God of the Bible",
11:54 and that gave them hope
11:55 and you could say their faces change.
11:56 Beverley, we saw Pentecost,
11:58 people say you know,
12:00 and people say, well,
12:01 the latter rain is way down in the future.
12:04 We saw, glory be to God the latter rain.
12:07 We saw more than
12:08 two and a half thousand atheists
12:11 and communists and members of the KGB walk out into
12:15 the freezing waters of the Volga River
12:18 and get baptized.
12:20 And, I've just come back
12:22 from greeting some of these new believers.
12:26 Now, old believers.
12:28 Yeah, and they're still faithful,
12:30 the majority of them are still faithful.
12:32 Went to the Christian Cultural Center this,
12:36 the largest Protestant building in Russia.
12:41 It's amazing, I spoke there to our church
12:44 that was packed to the doors.
12:47 I saw young people playing violins,
12:51 wonderful singing.
12:53 They're great musicians.
12:54 One of the best. Just, just touches my heart.
12:58 I saw Julia,
12:59 who's in charge of the 3ABN ministry there.
13:03 This last year she's lost her brother, murdered,
13:07 Boris Nemtsov, our friend.
13:09 Yes, yes, we knew him.
13:11 My friend, I knew him.
13:13 Then she lost her husband. He was drowned.
13:16 And when I got over there,
13:18 her mother had just broken her hip.
13:21 And Julia is taking care of her.
13:24 And so we meet these people, who are saints,
13:28 who are standing firm for God in spite of hardship.
13:32 Beverley, the church has been through a time of trouble
13:36 in Nizhny Novgorod.
13:38 And this left them stronger for that.
13:40 There was a man who professed to be a member of our church.
13:44 And he murdered his wife and all of his children
13:48 and the government moved in
13:49 and our churches have been under siege.
13:52 That was just a few months ago, wasn't it?
13:53 Yes, Julia sent me a message she said,
13:56 "Don't come. It may be too dangerous."
13:59 But God put his hand over his church.
14:02 That church is survived
14:04 the people of God need to realize
14:07 this is no time to sound the retreat,
14:11 and forsake as suffering Russian brothers and sisters.
14:15 Just because we don't like the booten government.
14:17 That's right, and not to be feeble
14:19 and not know it is the novel says,
14:21 "Not to fight in times of trouble."
14:24 Now, in used in Novgorod,
14:26 that was where I first started my orphanage work.
14:29 Yes.
14:31 I felt impressed at the time
14:32 as you know the Book of James I think it is says,
14:35 "A true and pure really is just a vision
14:37 the orphans and widows widowers in their pristine and flexion",
14:42 and I just felt impressed that,
14:46 to do something practical for the people because,
14:48 I didn't want them to think well,
14:50 "Okay, you're here just to preach us.
14:52 You're also here to help." Yes
14:54 And that, and also because
14:56 we love children.
14:57 So, that's where I began the orphanage work and,
15:00 and at that time I also visited a children's hospital.
15:04 And I noticed that they had nothing.
15:06 If you went into hospital,
15:08 you had to take your own bathing,
15:09 you had to go and buy your own medication
15:12 because the hospitals have you nothing.
15:13 Nothing.
15:14 Because as we said before.
15:16 The footage of atheism
15:17 All the money had gone to the building weapons,
15:19 of destruction.
15:20 Instead of helping the people
15:22 And so with us at that time we had two,
15:25 German friends, who were from at church
15:27 back here in America they went over with us.
15:29 And they still had relatives in Germany.
15:32 And so what we did, we got some money together
15:35 and our friends in Germany.
15:37 There able to buy by ten tons of medication,
15:40 and medical supplies.
15:42 And they brought it over on a big semi truck.
15:43 And glory be to God.
15:45 And we just thank God, we thank our supporters,
15:47 and for all those people that helped us to do that.
15:50 And I know that did make an impression
15:52 on the people to say well,
15:54 "These Christians they're not just here to preach
15:57 that they're also here to help us."
15:59 And we'll be back, after this special message.
16:05 Hello friend, I'm John Carter in Russia.
16:09 This is my 43rd visit to this land.
16:13 And I come not for this weather,
16:16 but to preach the gospel of Christ.
16:19 The need here is tremendous.
16:22 The first big campaign was in the year in 1991.
16:26 In the great city of Moscow,
16:28 followed by a mighty campaign find here,
16:32 in 1992 in Nizhny Novgorod.
16:37 When the Volga River,
16:39 2,530 souls were baptized
16:44 into Jesus Christ.
16:47 The need here has not lessen
16:50 the people are crying out for God.
16:53 I'm asking you today in the name of Jesus.
16:58 Please support us in the preaching
17:01 of the gospel of Christ to the Russian people.
17:05 Please write to me John Carter Post-office Box
17:10 1900 Thousand Oaks, California 91358.
17:15 In Australia, you can write to me at the address.
17:19 Now, appearing on the screen at Terrigal.
17:23 I' am here my friend to bring Christ,
17:27 to the Russian people.
17:29 Already we have seen
17:31 the mighty pouring of the Spirit of God.
17:35 We have seen hundreds of thousands of people
17:39 come to Christ in Russia.
17:42 please write to me John Carter Post-office Box
17:46 1900 Thousand Oaks California.
17:48 91358 in Australia Write to me at Terrigal,
17:54 in the name of God to please support this work.
18:07 Welcome, back to the Russian experience.
18:09 I'm so happy today, to have you with me.
18:13 But I'm super happy to have Beverley with me.
18:18 Beverley, welcome today to the Carter report.
18:20 Well, thank you I'm very happy to be here too.
18:23 You've been my partner,
18:25 in this great work in Russia for many years.
18:28 And I've just come back as you know my 43rd visit.
18:31 You've been there more than more 20 times.
18:34 And one of the places,
18:35 I've visited is a place that you know all about
18:38 Dzerzhinsk.
18:39 Dzerzhinsk.
18:41 Yeah, very polluted city tell us about that.
18:43 Yeah Dzerzhinsk polluted,
18:45 it used to be the pollution capital
18:49 for the old Soviet empire.
18:51 Is where they made their hellish chemicals.
18:55 And when you go to Dzerzhinsk You see there the,
18:59 the disease, the cancer and so forth among the people.
19:03 As you know by the grace of God
19:05 we built a church in Dzerzhinsk
19:09 God has used the Carter report to build churches
19:12 throughout the old Soviet Union.
19:14 We built a church there.
19:16 And all day every day
19:17 I wish you had been there with me
19:19 this time to see the faces of the people
19:22 to hear the music.
19:24 The church was founded 25 years ago,
19:27 it's still standing strong thank you Jesus.
19:31 Yes, praise the Lord
19:32 To the glory of God.
19:33 Yes, that's wonderful because, and talking about pollution
19:36 there's so many cities on to in the former Soviet Union.
19:40 Where Nuclear dumps where you know
19:42 they were just dumped.
19:44 And so many cities there,
19:45 so many people sick as you said,
19:47 with cancer and other terrible diseases.
19:50 And I want to say to the people watching this telecast.
19:54 Don't think, what you believe
19:56 doesn't affect the way you live.
19:58 Easy atheism is one the greatest curses
20:01 in the history of the world.
20:04 It almost destroyed the hearts, and the souls,
20:08 and the bodies of the Russian people.
20:11 Beverley we're going to talk
20:13 in the next part of our program.
20:15 About your noble,
20:17 we're gonna leave that to the talk on Ukraine.
20:20 But when I went to Dzerzhinsk,
20:22 I was so glad to meet with their people;
20:24 their love almost just followed me up.
20:27 But my heart goes out to them,
20:28 because of the terrible suffering
20:31 and their great needs there.
20:32 Could you tell us about some of the needs?
20:36 Beverley, I will try
20:39 I'm sure there are so many but.
20:42 I think of the young people.
20:45 Some of the most beautiful young people,
20:48 you'll find anywhere in the world.
20:50 But they need help,
20:52 we're thinking by the grace of God
20:54 if we can raise the money.
20:55 Are putting on a, I use Congress in Russia.
20:59 And going there and putting on meetings,
21:03 and winning young people, not only old people
21:06 but we're going to have a concentrated effort
21:10 to reach young people for Christ.
21:13 Because in Russia,
21:14 it's been relatively easy to get the babushka,
21:17 some of the old people.
21:19 But the young people and own Christian young people.
21:24 They desperately need help at this time.
21:27 By the grace of God we want to go back,
21:29 and work especially for our young people.
21:32 We must do that, by God's great.
21:34 We've got to raise the money Beverley.
21:36 And you know,
21:37 I'm just a no pastor with his wife.
21:42 You called me old too, but I guess I' am.
21:43 No, no, no I' am just an old pastor
21:45 with his young wife.
21:47 But raising the money is not easy.
21:51 We don't get any support of course,
21:53 from the organization.
21:56 But thank God, we get support from God.
21:58 That's right.
21:59 And God's people.
22:01 And usually, we've always found that
22:02 when people hear of the need, or see the need.
22:06 They come to our help.
22:07 And I'm sure that will happen again.
22:11 Can I ask you a question.
22:12 Yeah,
22:13 In the last segment, you spoke about the orphans.
22:17 Now in a program on Ukraine,
22:19 that's going to follow this program.
22:21 We're going to talk about the children of Chernobyl.
22:26 Do you remember when we went on the Trans-Siberian Express.
22:30 Yes, I'll never forget it.
22:32 You know, we went from Moscow to Vladivostok
22:34 11 time zones.
22:36 Eight days on the train. And no shell
22:41 Just a little thing to wash a face in.
22:43 Do you remember the children in Siberia?
22:47 Who came to the train starving?
22:49 Yes, I remember that.
22:51 Can you tell me about that.
22:52 Well, when we stop there.
22:54 Like we stopped at every station along the way.
22:56 At any time of the day and night.
22:58 Yeah, Two O'clock, Four O' clock in the morning.
23:00 These children were there and they were well,
23:03 you know that every dirty, grubby,
23:05 little children God bless them.
23:07 And, the lady in our carriage told us.
23:10 A Russian lady said,
23:12 "That, every time a trying stops. They come.
23:15 Because and number one,
23:17 they get the warmth of the train.
23:20 And then people give them bread and give them cheese
23:22 or any food that they might have left over."
23:25 And so we had some food left and we gave it to them.
23:29 But that was sad, because
23:31 Do you remember, how cold it was?
23:33 It was freezing, it with freezing
23:35 I wish it had been freezing
23:36 it was 30 or 40 degrees below freezing
23:39 Yeah, yeah.
23:40 But they say, "Children are hungry every day,
23:42 they come to the train to get warmth and to get some food."
23:48 I didn't know if you know this.
23:49 But I have discovered that,
23:51 these children who were all orphans
23:54 and deserted children were deserted,
23:57 because of the demon in the bottle.
24:01 Yes, yes I do remember.
24:02 Remember? The Vodka, and the parents
24:06 because they were atheists gave up on life
24:10 and they turned to the demon in the bottle or the vodka.
24:14 And they were drunk all the time.
24:16 And the children were driven out onto the streets,
24:20 were minus 30 and minus 40 degrees.
24:24 That was one of the reasons they were so many orphans.
24:27 Because either, both parents had died
24:30 or there was one parent. But they were alcoholic.
24:33 And I couldn't look after the children.
24:35 So, they were given to the orphanages.
24:37 So alcoholism has, has destroyed millions
24:41 in Russia and Ukraine.
24:43 It's one of the greatest curses in the history of,
24:46 of the Russian people.
24:47 And in the history of America,
24:51 America go to day is no longer the great Christian nation
24:55 she used to be.
24:57 Because, forces of atheism, and secularism,
25:01 are starting to tear the heart out
25:04 of this great nation.
25:06 And the results you can see it all around the,
25:09 the breakdown of society.
25:12 But Beverley you asked me before.
25:14 What can we do? What can our supporters do?
25:19 I think we are a move ahead by the grace of God
25:21 and try to run this bigger evangelistic campaign
25:24 for the young people.
25:28 My heart sometimes fails me
25:30 I think we're going to get the money for this.
25:32 But God is never, never failed has he.
25:35 Now he has not.
25:37 We've run campaigns all around Russia Moscow,
25:41 Garonne in St Petersburg over Nick Coots in Siberia,
25:47 Cazan. Do you remember Cazan?
25:50 Yeah, well, I didn't get to Cazan because,
25:52 I had a health problem.
25:54 But tell us about that because, that was
25:57 That was Muslim city
25:58 Yes.
25:59 But she came with me, later on Cazan.
26:01 Yes, we did you came with me to Cazan.
26:04 It was a Muslim city.
26:06 And we saw hundreds of Muslims baptized in the river.
26:10 In front of the mosque, people say it can't be done.
26:13 Just to get back a moment when you said,
26:16 you know we're getting older of course, we are.
26:19 Why not have a perhaps a training school.
26:22 Yes
26:24 For the young people because,
26:26 so many of them are eager for years.
26:29 Yes, and this is now the Bible better
26:31 and had to present it to our listeners.
26:33 This is a great idea.
26:36 Years ago, we ran a school evangelism
26:38 for the Russian pastors.
26:40 We had every Russian, and every one of their pastors.
26:43 Come into a central place.
26:44 At the Christian Cultural Center established
26:47 by 3 ABN and we had a grade school of evangelism
26:51 And it was very successful.
26:52 Super successful,
26:54 we need a school of evangelism
26:57 for our young people.
26:58 Absolutely
27:00 Don't you believe this?
27:01 All from my heart.
27:03 I love the young people here
27:04 I spend a lot of time with the young people.
27:06 Teaching them how to communicate,
27:08 with God how to pray because my,
27:10 they didn't know about prayer.
27:12 And had to commune with God.
27:15 And so I love the young people.
27:17 And we need, I just feel impressed like
27:19 you did to do something for them.
27:21 Not to do less but to do more.
27:22 Yes
27:23 My friend won't to be a partner.
27:25 Want to be Beverley's partner and want to be my partner.
27:28 We've been telling you about the Russian experience.
27:32 We, we've been telling you about
27:34 what atheism can do to our nation.
27:36 How it can destroy the nation.
27:39 And in many ways,
27:40 even though Russia has had a period of peace
27:43 and prosperity and freedom.
27:46 That time is passing.
27:50 The freedoms are going.
27:52 It is time now, to work for the Russian people.
27:56 Please write to me John Carter Post Office Box
27:58 1900 Thousand Oaks, California 91358.
28:02 In Australia write to me at the address
28:03 on the screen to next time.
28:06 God bless you.


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