Participants: Pr. John Carter
Series Code: CR
Program Code: CR001602A
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00:01 Hello, friend, I am John Carter just back from Ukraine,
00:04 where for the glory of God, 00:06 we had the largest Christian baptism 00:09 in the history of the nation. 00:11 That was back a few years ago. 00:13 But I'm going to tell you today the real situation, 00:17 the inside story, 00:19 of what is happening today in Ukraine. 00:23 Welcome to the Ukrainian Experience. 00:26 I am John Carter. Welcome to the Carter Report. 00:32 Hello friend, I'm John Carter in Moscow. 00:36 I'm standing here 00:37 at the very center of the Russian nation. 00:40 I'm in Red Square. 00:41 Behind me is St. Basil's Cathedral. 00:45 And over here is the Kremlin. 00:48 It's amazing, I'm able to talk to you 00:51 from Red Square today. 00:52 This is by the grace of God. 00:55 I'm here today to preach 00:57 the everlasting gospel of Christ. 00:59 I first came here in 1991. 01:04 It was my privilege 01:05 to run the first ever evangelistic campaign 01:10 in the old Soviet Union. 01:12 And we saw thousands of people come to Christ. 01:16 I've been back here 43 times. 01:20 We have run campaigns right across Russia 01:23 and all around Ukraine. 01:26 We've seen millions of people come to our meetings 01:30 and hundreds of thousands of people come to Christ. 01:34 I'm asking you today 01:36 to continue to support the work of God 01:39 here in the lands of the former Soviet Union. 01:44 The need is greater than ever before. 01:48 In the name of Jesus, please write to me, 01:52 John Carter, Po Box 1900, 01:55 Thousand Oaks, California 91358. 01:59 In Australia, 02:00 please write to me at the address at Terrigal. 02:06 I've been taking meetings the last few days. 02:08 And from here, I go on to Ukraine 02:11 to preach the gospel of Christ. 02:14 Thank you for your magnificent support. 02:18 Please write to me today. 02:20 And I want to say to you in the name of Jesus, 02:24 thank you, thank you and thank you. 02:33 Welcome to the Carter Report. 02:35 We're talking today about Ukraine. 02:38 And what's going on in that nation. 02:41 They're sort of being torn to pieces 02:43 because of the war. 02:45 I'm so glad to have with me today, 02:47 my wife Beverley. 02:48 Beverley, welcome today to the Carter Report. 02:51 Thank you for having me here. 02:53 You've been my partner in this great work 02:55 for many, many years. 02:58 Do you remember the great campaign 03:00 we had in Ukraine? 03:01 I certainly do. 03:02 Kiev, it was such an exciting time. 03:05 As always we advertise on T.V. 03:08 for a couple of weeks before the actual program begins. 03:11 And because of that, 03:13 we had thousands of people coming to the meetings. 03:15 An actual fact, they told us, now we didn't go out 03:19 and count one by one ourselves, but we were told 03:22 that there were about 100,000 people 03:24 outside the Palace of Sport trying to get in. 03:27 That's what the government said. 03:29 Yeah, and there were so many people 03:31 they had to stop the train from running 03:33 that which was nearby the Palace of Sport, 03:36 so that normal people could come. 03:38 But that, that was just something, 03:39 it was the hand of God. 03:41 And it was amazing. 03:42 Now, this is going to test your memory, Beverley, 03:45 which I'm sure is better than mine. 03:47 Do you remember the turmoil that shook the nation 03:51 as we commenced those meetings? 03:53 Well, because of the television ads 03:57 that brought the attention 03:58 and all the newspapers were talking about it. 04:00 And of course, this in turn upset the Orthodox Church, 04:05 which wanted to prevent the meetings. 04:08 And in the video which we have just shown, 04:11 you were there on the streets of the bishop 04:13 who actually said, "These meetings will not take place, 04:18 only over my dead body. 04:19 And you can tell that story 04:21 because you were actually there. 04:22 Yeah, yeah that was not a good thing he said. 04:24 No, it wasn't. 04:25 He said, "The meetings will go ahead 04:27 only over my dead body." 04:29 And in the video that we've shown, 04:30 that's exactly what happened, it was over his dead body. 04:34 But those meetings went ahead for the glory of God. 04:37 And, Beverley, you remember because you were there. 04:41 We had the largest baptism 04:43 in the history of the Ukrainian nation 04:46 when 3,500 precious souls were baptized 04:49 in the cold polluted waters of the Dneiper River. 04:54 Glory be to God, what days. 04:56 Now, you've just come back as you said, 04:58 can you tell us how the believers are doing? 05:01 When I go back, 05:02 and I've been to these countries 05:03 now 43 times. 05:05 You've been dozens and dozens of times. 05:08 You've been tremendously faithful. 05:10 When I go back, my heart is just about torn out of my chest 05:16 because of the love and the, 05:20 the emotion that is generated, when I go to these places. 05:25 I go to their churches now that we help to establish. 05:29 I meet with thousands and thousands of people 05:33 that we baptized. 05:35 A beautiful young people, old people, 05:39 I'm just overwhelmed and I just want to say to our supporters, 05:43 who are watching the telecast. 05:45 Under God, you made it possible. 05:48 Now, we may not agree 05:50 with the policies of the Russian government 05:52 or the policies of the Ukrainian government, 05:54 that doesn't matter. 05:55 We go for the saving of souls 05:59 and you my dear, friend, made it possible. 06:02 And you hope to make it possible to, Beverley. 06:04 Now, you were telling me 06:06 that we have a shortage of churches. 06:08 Now, tell us about that, how some of the people 06:10 have to worship in these very difficult situations. 06:14 When I would say, it was cold. 06:16 Now, I know we don't live in, we live in Southern California, 06:19 we don't know whatever cold is. 06:21 If the gate stand are freezing here, 06:23 we think it's, you know terrible. 06:25 But when I left Kiev just a few days ago, 06:30 it was minus 18 degrees. 06:33 When I was speaking out of doors in Russia, 06:36 only two weeks ago it was minus 25. 06:40 Your eyes freeze over 06:44 and saliva runs from your mouth 06:47 then it turns into a ice. 06:50 And instead of articulating clearly I ended up. 06:55 And anybody would where you find it hard, 06:58 you find it hard to talk because you're freezing. 07:03 Can you imagine worshiping in a church? 07:05 No, no, I'm sorry, it's not a church. 07:08 Because in Russia and Ukraine, 07:10 most of our believers don't have churches. 07:14 Why is that? Why don't we have more churches? 07:17 Well, you tell me? 07:18 They don't have churches, they don't have the money. 07:20 Now, there are some people who are tremendously wealthy. 07:23 But as David pointed out to me an obvious truth, 07:28 our people, 07:30 the middle class are poor. 07:36 There, a lot of them are almost starving to death. 07:39 They don't have churches. 07:41 Now, we have helped to build some beautiful churches. 07:44 Our supporters helped the Carter Report 07:46 to build some magnificent churches 07:49 which is centuries of hope in those desolate lands. 07:54 Do you think this is one of the reasons 07:55 we lose some people 07:58 because of that, they're sitting at homes? 08:00 Let me tell you what the pastor told me. 08:03 He said, they rent, not churches, 08:06 they rent buildings, movie theaters, they're creped. 08:10 We've been in these dirty old holes, and he said, 08:13 "It was minus 10 outside on this Sabbath morning. 08:17 And it was minus 10 inside the building." 08:21 Our believers are sitting in a building 08:24 that is minus 10 degrees. 08:26 And then the electricity went off. 08:29 He said to me, "The power failed." 08:31 He said, I was sitting there in total blackness. 08:35 It amazes me that anyone stays. 08:37 How many Americans, how many Australians would go to church 08:43 even inside the building, it was minus 10 degrees, 08:46 and they had no electricity. 08:48 It was in total blackness. 08:52 Now, we need in Australia 08:56 and in this great land of America, 08:58 where we are privileged to live. 09:01 We need to help the struggling church 09:05 in Russia and Ukraine. 09:07 And don't say to me, you know, the government is bad. 09:11 We're not interested in the government. 09:14 We're not interested in the politics. 09:17 We're interested in the souls of the people. 09:19 Just imagine, if Jesus said, 09:21 "I'm not going to go down to that planet, 09:23 because I don't like the Roman government." 09:26 We all would have gone to hell. 09:28 Jesus came to seek and to save the lost, 09:31 and He came into hostile territory. 09:36 And therefore, we need to be doing more 09:40 to give these people sanctuaries of hope. 09:44 I agree, and I've always felt 09:46 and I know other people feel the same way 09:49 that when you go to these places. 09:51 And you see the needs and you come back home 09:53 to such wonderful countries that we live in. 09:55 Yeah, we are blessed. 09:57 And you think, you know, why were they born there? 09:59 Why was I born here? 10:01 And that's, and the reason, you know, we don't know why. 10:04 But I do know that as Christians 10:07 we have a responsibility to help those people 10:10 that live in other places. 10:12 Beverley, last Sunday I think it was, 10:16 the believers took me to a building that we can buy. 10:21 We're gonna run video of this. I want the folks to see this. 10:25 We can buy this. 10:26 We can make it a sanctuary for three churches. 10:29 Get these people out of minus 10 degrees. 10:32 Get them into a place where the children can come, 10:35 where the old women can come. 10:37 Where the young people can come. 10:39 We can buy it for $350,000. 10:42 Well, that's not so much. 10:44 It's a lot if you don't have. To us in America. 10:47 No, but it's a lot if you don't have it. 10:49 I'm just appealing to our people, 10:51 who are watching the telecast. 10:53 Help us in the name of God, to provide a sanctuary of hope 10:58 for, for our believers in the former Soviet Union. 11:01 Some of them are worshipping in church, not churches, 11:04 but in buildings were it's-- 11:07 Beverley he told me, "Minus 10." 11:11 I spoke out of doors, where it's minus 10. 11:15 I went to church in Russia 11:17 when one, one day, it was minus 25. 11:20 Yeah, that's cold. 11:23 You and I would freeze. 11:24 Thank God, 3 ABN in Russia, 11:28 established the Christian Cultural Center. 11:32 Thank God for the vision of Danny Shelton. 11:36 They've got a church there now, and I preached in that church. 11:40 More than a thousand people there, 11:44 all these beautiful young people. 11:46 By the grace of God, we must be the servants of Christ, 11:52 and we must seek to save that which was lost. 11:56 Yeah, well, as you often say, God blesses us, 11:59 so that we can bless others. 12:00 Yes. 12:01 And we take with one hand, 12:03 but we give with the other hand, 12:04 that's why God gave us two hands. 12:06 Yes, let me try to answer your question. 12:09 You asked me why do people leave the church. 12:12 Well, we know there are many reasons 12:14 why people leave the church. 12:16 But I have returned to Russia 12:18 and you've gone with me most of the occasions. 12:20 I've gone back 43 times. 12:23 Because I don't believe in evangelism 12:26 that just goes to a place and makes a big noise. 12:30 Takes a lot of pictures, 12:32 comes back and publishes it all in church papers 12:37 and never goes back. 12:39 So, we've run, 12:42 I think we've run 15 or 16 major evangelistic campaigns 12:47 in the former Soviet Union. 12:49 And that's not talking about smaller campaigns 12:52 that only lasted for a week or two. 12:54 But by the grace of God, we keep going back. 12:58 We have not only in evangelistic interest 13:01 in the souls of these people. 13:03 You and I Beverley, 13:04 have a pastoral interest in their souls. 13:07 And that's what it's all about, isn't it? 13:09 To tell them about Jesus. 13:11 And to give them hope for the future. 13:13 Because many of them still don't have a lot of hope. 13:16 There's a lot of wealthy people and they're doing okay. 13:19 But the average person 13:21 still has a battle from day to day. 13:23 And they're the ones we need 13:25 to tell about Jesus to give them hope 13:26 that there is a better future ahead. 13:29 You're watching the Carter Report 13:31 and we're talking about the Ukrainian Experience. 13:34 I've just come back from Russia and Ukraine. 13:38 We don't go to these countries, 13:39 because we believe in their governments. 13:42 We go there, because we believe in the gospel of Christ 13:46 and we believe in the people. 13:49 I'm asking you, friend, in the name of Jesus, 13:51 please support this work. 13:53 Help us to build a church. 13:57 I can buy it for 300, I can buy a building for $350,000 now. 14:03 And get our believers in out of the cold 14:07 where they're worshiping in dirty buildings, 14:10 where the temperature is minus 10 degrees. 14:15 Please write to me. 14:17 And we'll be back after this special message. 14:25 I've just come from Russia via Switzerland. 14:28 And I'm now in Kiev, the capital of Ukraine. 14:32 This place has got huge memories for me 14:36 because back in '95, we ran a campaign in the city 14:40 and in spite of terrific opposition, 14:43 by the grace of God, we baptized 14:46 3,530 precious souls in the Dneiper River. 14:52 I'm back here today, because I believe 14:55 that we need to take care of the people we baptized. 15:00 I don't believe it's right to baptize people, 15:03 and then to walk away, 15:05 and to leave them literally in the cold. 15:08 When I read my Bible, 15:10 I find where the Apostle Paul went back time after time 15:15 to visit the people that he had baptized. 15:18 And so, I'm back here today, for the 43rd time 15:24 in Russia and Ukraine together to visit the people. 15:28 I'm back here to preach the gospel of Christ. 15:31 I'm back here to explain the word of God. 15:34 And let these people know that they are not forgotten 15:37 and never will be forgotten. 15:41 We believe that there's a tremendous opportunity 15:45 for the preaching of the gospel of Christ 15:48 in this part of the world. 15:50 The soul hunger still exists. 15:55 And the Carter Report has got a goal 15:58 to take the gospel of Christ to the people of Russia 16:02 and the people of Ukraine. 16:04 I just want to say to you dear friend. 16:07 My heart is overwhelmed with thankfulness 16:10 for your magnificent support. 16:12 Thank you in Jesus name. 16:25 Welcome back to the Carter Report. 16:27 We're talking about the Ukrainian Experience. 16:31 I've just come back from an extended visit 16:34 to Russia and Ukraine. 16:37 So glad to have you with me, Beverley. 16:39 You're such a great blessing to this ministry 16:42 and to the people of Russia and Ukraine. 16:45 Do you remember what happened at Chernobyl? 16:49 Well, I wasn't actually there when the disaster happened 16:53 but we were there not long after. 16:56 And when we were in Kiev, 16:58 I met with one of our young pastors 17:00 who pastored the church just outside of Chernobyl, 17:04 there was of course a big perimeter around it. 17:07 But outside of that people were still living. 17:09 It was still dangerous. 17:11 Dangerously high in its radiation. 17:13 Hell hole. 17:15 And he s looks sickly and I said to him, 17:16 you know how's your health? 17:18 And he said, it's not good and my doctor has told me, 17:21 he was only young I'd say probably in his 30s. 17:24 He said that, "My doctor has told me, 17:26 if I want to have a long life that I need to leave." 17:29 And I said, "Well, why don't you leave?" 17:31 And he said, "How can I leave the people?" 17:33 He said, "I can't." He said, "These are my people. 17:36 If they have lost everything and they have no money to move 17:40 so I will stay with them." 17:42 And unfortunately I mean, I don't know 17:44 whether he is still alive but I probably, I doubt it. 17:47 I'll never forget him, 17:48 because he brought a bus load of people 17:50 every night to the Kiev campaign. 17:53 As you know, we baptized glory be to God, 17:55 3,500 people in that campaign. 17:59 We had so many people come to the meeting 18:02 you know, 100,000 turned away. 18:04 But, let's get back to Chernobyl. 18:07 Can you tell me about the babies? 18:10 Yes, well, the young pastor took me to children's hospital 18:15 and an orphanage. 18:16 Close again to the perimeter, just outside the perimeter, 18:20 where people could still live which they shouldn't have been 18:22 but they still were. 18:24 And I was taken into this round room 18:27 I'll never forget it. 18:30 In most of the orphanages and hospitals 18:32 that I visited in every city that we went to, 18:35 they were clean and usually quite well looked after 18:39 even they were in great need of medications 18:41 and other supplies. 18:42 But this one, it had a round table 18:45 and I could hear the babies were moaning and crying. 18:51 And it was just so sad, 18:53 and there was a stench in this room 18:55 that I'll never forget. 18:56 Goodness. 18:58 And, the lady with me, the director, she said, 19:00 "These babies all have some kind of brain damage" 19:04 because of the radiation that have had affected the parents. 19:07 And there was nothing they could do for them. 19:10 And in that, at that time I mean I don't know, 19:13 whether things have gotten any better. 19:15 But that was, you know, very bad then. 19:18 So, then I went, they took me over to the orphanage. 19:22 And where a lot of the children that were young ones too 19:26 who had heart defects and other defects 19:30 because of the radiation from their parents. 19:34 And when I got back to the hotel that night 19:36 I told you about what I had seen here. 19:39 And we both decided when we got back to the States 19:42 we said, "We're going to try to do something 19:44 to help this orphanage and this hospital." 19:47 And so we got back to the States. 19:49 And we had some good friends in Oregon. 19:52 And they had contact with some hospitals, 19:56 and pharmaceutical companies, and together, 20:00 we were able to get 24,000 pounds worth of medications 20:05 and medical supplies. 20:07 But then of course, we thought well, 20:08 how do we get them to Kiev. 20:10 And in defense they also had some contacts 20:13 with the U.S. military. 20:15 And so they contacted the U.S. military, 20:18 the air force, and a message came back to us. 20:20 "Well, if you can get permission 20:22 to land in Ukraine in Kiev" 20:24 because it hadn't done before. 20:25 Asking us. Then we'll go. 20:27 The U.S. Air Force asking us? Yeah, asking us. 20:29 And then I think, you know the rest of the story 20:31 because you helped to get permission. 20:34 Well, we got permission, for the first ever landing 20:38 since communism 20:40 of a U.S. military aircraft in Ukraine. 20:44 It was a Hercules. It was amazing, a miracle. 20:47 And a huge plane and the staff, 20:50 the captain and all of those Americans 20:53 were mighty ambassadors for God and for the nation. 20:59 And they brought over, what was it 24,000. 21:01 24,000 pounds. 24,000 pounds. 21:04 Now, I couldn't get back... 21:05 For the suffering people. 21:07 But you went back on a commercial flight 21:08 and you were there. 21:10 At the airport, when the plan 21:12 with some of that Kiev dignitaries 21:15 and their church leaders when the Hercules came in. 21:18 This big U.S plane and that was really something worth seeing, 21:22 and I've got some pictures of that. 21:23 Glory be to God. 21:25 Beverley, let me bring you into a dirty little secret. 21:30 I hope it's not too dirty. 21:32 Well, it's dirty in the sense that it's, 21:37 it shows the extent of the awfulness of sin. 21:42 In Russia and Ukraine, 21:43 you've got about one or two percent at the top. 21:47 And they're wealthy, 21:48 they have great motor cars and great homes. 21:51 But the vast majority of the people 21:55 are in poverty. 21:58 So, that's the dirty little secret. 22:00 People don't realize this, they don't realize it 22:02 either the terrible poverty 22:05 that our believers still are even in these countries. 22:09 Yeah. 22:10 And I was talking to a man 22:11 who is running a wonderful Christian outreach in Kiev. 22:16 And he told me, he's got these young people working for him. 22:19 And I said, "How can you pay them? 22:23 He said, "With great difficulty." 22:26 I said, "How much are you paying them?" 22:28 He said, "Some of them $40 a month. 22:31 Some of them $50 a month." 22:34 But when you go down to the supermarket, 22:36 it's like going to America. 22:38 Everything's expensive? 22:39 Yes and so, it's, it's burning in my soul, 22:43 I'm not going to give up on these people 22:45 because God didn't give up on me. 22:48 That's right. 22:49 And I know the poverty, and I know the hunger, 22:52 and I know the awful distress of people 22:56 worshipping in dirty holes, that's how dirty it gets. 23:02 And outside it's minus 10, inside it's minus 10. 23:06 And they've got no electricity. 23:08 And they took me to a place that we can buy 23:12 for three churches for $350,000. 23:15 And so, I say to the people watching in the name of God 23:19 is there not a course. 23:21 As it says in the Bible, "Is it nothing to you, 23:24 or you who passed by." 23:26 We need to do something for our young people 23:29 and the babies. 23:32 Don't worry about these governments, 23:33 these governments may be bad. 23:35 We don't care about the governments. 23:36 We care about the people. 23:38 And that's right. 23:39 And we ask God for help and He-- 23:40 And God never fails. And God is faithful. 23:44 We've run campaigns as you know 23:46 in most of the Great Russian cities, 23:49 also in Kiev, Odessa. 23:54 Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkov, 23:58 Zaporizhia, what experience? 24:02 What does it bring into your mind? 24:04 Well, mostly of course, it brings in the people. 24:07 Because once they hear the good message 24:10 that they hear the gospel message, 24:12 it just changes them. 24:13 And these people even though, they haven't got much, 24:16 they're so generous and they're so loving, 24:19 I don't know this is one thing 24:20 that we, we didn't speak about back 24:23 when you were preaching. 24:25 On this, or on the stages they will bring flowers 24:28 by the bucketsful with tulips and roses, 24:31 I love their gardens. 24:33 And they're always full of flowers. 24:36 Now, another thing in Dnipropetrovsk. 24:39 I went to an orphanage there, and I had 300 babies. 24:43 In Kiev, Ukraine and Russia they had their orphanages, 24:48 they would keep the children from, 24:49 right from birth to three, three to six, six and so forth. 24:53 And on this, in this one, they needed a hot water system, 24:57 a sterilizer and some diapers. 25:00 And we were able to help them with that. 25:01 Now, I know you also in Odessa, 25:04 you had something that happened miraculously with a baby. 25:07 Could you tell us about that? They took me to a hospital. 25:10 It's cold, and dark, and damp, and dreary. 25:13 They brought out a little baby boy, 25:15 they said he's going to die in the next few hours. 25:18 And the mother was there, 25:19 and the old Babushkan nurse gave me the baby, 25:23 and the dean Butov was with me 25:25 and we anointed that baby in the name of the Lord. 25:29 And when I went back a little while later, 25:31 I was met by the mother 25:33 and the little baby boy who was then running around. 25:37 Healed by God, Beverley. 25:40 Can I tell you a secret? Yes. 25:44 Here's the secret, just between you and me. 25:45 Don't you folks listen? 25:48 We need to do something for these young people. 25:51 We've seen thousands of young people come to Christ. 25:56 But these young people need desperately spiritual help 26:00 they've asked me to go back 26:03 and run a series of evangelistic meetings, 26:07 especially focused on the needs of young people 26:13 in Russia and Ukraine. 26:15 And they're so eager to workout 26:16 because as you said at 3ABN in Russia 26:19 and then Hope in Ukraine. 26:21 They're mostly young people that are doing the work. 26:24 And the Hope and 3ABN working together over there. 26:28 But I want to say to the people watching the program. 26:31 Listen my, friend, we've got to build sanctuaries of hope. 26:36 Are you listening to me? 26:38 We've get the believers in out of this arctic conditions. 26:43 I can buy a building now 26:44 that will take care of three churches in Kiev. 26:49 It will cost $350,000. 26:52 Please in the name of God help me. 26:55 And something else, 26:57 help us to run a big evangelistic campaign, 27:01 not only for old folks but for the young people. 27:06 The young people, who are becoming mesmerized 27:09 by the lights of the world. 27:12 But I spoke to so many young people, 27:14 I saw their faces, they came to me. 27:18 Please support this work, support the work of God 27:23 in the lands of the former Soviet Union please. 27:26 Write to me, John Carter and Beverly Carter. 27:29 PO Box 1900, Thousand Oaks, California 91358. 27:35 My Aussie friends, I want to hear from you. 27:38 Please write to me John Carter and to my wife Beverley Carter 27:43 at the address in Terrigal. 27:46 Help us to build sanctuaries of hope 27:49 in the former Soviet Union 27:51 and help us to light a gospel fire 27:55 for the salvation of thousands of souls. 28:00 Help us to save the babies. 28:03 Help us to save these beautiful young people. 28:07 Jesus said, "I've come to seek, and to save 28:12 that which was lost." 28:14 Thank you for your partnership in the gospel of Christ. 28:19 God bless you. |
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