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Where are the beloved dead? Part 1

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Participants: Pr. John Carter

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00:14 The topic today is,
00:16 "Where is the blessed Virgin Mary."
00:20 My beloved Roman Catholic friends tell me,
00:23 that she's in heaven interceding for us.
00:26 Where are the saints? Where is St Peter?
00:30 The Catholic Church tells me that,
00:32 the great Roman Catholic Church is built upon St Peter.
00:36 That's because I believe he's alive and well.
00:39 Where are the beloved dead?
00:41 That's a topic today. What happens to me?
00:44 What happens to the soul when I die?
00:48 Now firstly today, I want to tell you,
00:52 there is life after death.
00:54 That's an absolute certainty, there is life after death,
00:57 death is not the end.
00:59 And please turn on the Bible to Matthew Chapter 28:1-7,
01:05 dear hearts and gentle people, Matthew 28:1-7.
01:11 I'm glad to see you today.
01:14 Matthew 28:1-7
01:18 says, "Now after the Sabbath,
01:22 as the first day of the week began to dawn..."
01:25 Now that tells me that the first day of the week
01:27 or Sunday is not the Sabbath.
01:29 That's plain, isn't it?
01:31 "Now after the Sabbath,
01:32 as the first day of the week began to dawn,
01:34 Mary Magdalene and the other Mary
01:36 came to see the tomb.
01:37 And behold, there was a great earthquake,
01:40 for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven,
01:42 and came and rolled back the stone from the door,
01:45 and sat on it.
01:47 His countenance was like lightning,
01:49 and his clothing as white as snow.
01:51 And the guards shook for fear of him,
01:53 became like dead men.
01:56 But the angel answered and said to the women,
01:59 'Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek Jesus
02:03 who was crucified.
02:05 He is not here, for He is a risen, as He said.
02:10 Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
02:13 And go quickly and tell His disciples
02:15 that He is risen from the dead,
02:18 and indeed He is going before you into Galilee,
02:21 there you will see Him.
02:23 Behold, I have told you."
02:28 So the Bible teaches that Christ,
02:31 Son of God rose from the dead.
02:36 Many Christians, mainly Protestants believe
02:39 that this is the tomb of Christ.
02:42 It is called The Garden Tomb.
02:47 I don't think it is,
02:49 even though just about all the Protestants believe
02:52 The Garden Tomb is the right spot.
02:54 It's called General Gordon's tomb.
02:57 Most archaeologists think that the Catholics
03:01 and the Orthodox may have it right.
03:04 And it's more likely that the Church of the Sepulchre
03:09 which is run by the Greek Orthodox
03:12 or the Armenian Orthodox,
03:14 the Roman Catholic Church and some other little groups.
03:16 I think that this most likely
03:20 is the site where Christ was laid.
03:23 It doesn't really matter, my friends.
03:26 Now, this place, this place here,
03:28 I want to say this,
03:29 I say it rather sadly is rather a money making racket.
03:33 Because when you go in there, the priest says to you
03:35 and they've said it to me dozens of times,
03:38 hey, give me some money, give me some money.
03:41 They're not slow, they say give me some money.
03:46 But I want you to know this.
03:48 It doesn't matter if this is the right tomb
03:50 or if The Garden Tomb is the right tomb.
03:52 The truth of the matter is that when they got to the tomb,
03:55 the tomb was empty
03:56 because Jesus was not in the tomb.
03:59 Jesus had been raised from the dead,
04:00 that's the good news.
04:03 Now...
04:06 I believe in the resurrection of Christ
04:10 not because of blind faith.
04:14 On television some time ago,
04:15 I saw a great convention in North America
04:18 with thousands of Protestant ministers.
04:22 And they asked one prominent Protestant minister,
04:26 why did he believe in the resurrection?
04:29 He got up and when he made the statement,
04:31 everybody broke out into loud claim, applause.
04:36 Why do you believe in the resurrection,
04:38 they said him?
04:39 He said, "Because of my faith."
04:43 Everybody applauded.
04:48 I think it is a tragic answer, because on my faith,
04:54 but the Buddhist has faith in Buddha,
04:58 doesn't make it right.
05:01 And the Muslim extremists who blows up a plane
05:06 and murders hundreds of people has faith also in his cause.
05:11 It's a misguided faith.
05:14 Jesus didn't say, you will know faith
05:17 and faith will set you free.
05:20 Jesus said, ''You will know the truths,
05:23 truth will set you free."
05:24 What we need my friend
05:27 is to have faith in the truths of God.
05:31 I believe in the resurrection not because of blind faith,
05:35 but because I believe it is the truth.
05:38 I believe it is based on evidence.
05:40 Think of some of the evidence, eyewitnesses.
05:43 He was seen by Mary Magdalene.
05:47 At the start she thought he was who?
05:49 The gardener.
05:51 He was seen by the disciples.
05:55 The disciples who did not believe
05:57 in the resurrection.
05:59 He was seen by two men on the road to Emmaus.
06:04 Now you say so what?
06:06 Well, this is how the court system operates.
06:10 In America we believe
06:12 in the viability of reliable witnesses,
06:16 never forget it.
06:18 And we've got the witnesses,
06:19 we've got Mary Magdalene, disciples,
06:23 the two men on the road to Emmaus.
06:25 He was seen by a person
06:26 who said unless I can actually feel him,
06:30 Thomas.
06:31 Seen by Thomas, he was seen by Peter.
06:37 Peter who denied the Lord, Peter said, I saw him,
06:40 he was seen on one occasion
06:42 by a crowd of more than 500 people,
06:46 and later on he was seen by the Apostle Paul
06:51 on the road to Damascus.
06:53 And so if you ask the people who gave their lives
06:59 for their faith in the resurrection.
07:01 If you ask them,
07:02 "Do you believe? Do you believe?"
07:04 They say, "Yes, we believe that He was raised
07:07 from the dead because we saw Him.
07:10 We saw Him when He was put on the cross
07:12 and we saw Him when He was taken down,
07:14 and we saw Him when he rose from the dead."
07:21 You've heard of Richard Dawkins,
07:23 haven't you?
07:24 I've talked to you about
07:26 the greatest atheist in the world today,
07:27 the most famous atheist.
07:29 Richard Dawkins, the great professor
07:31 from Oxford University.
07:35 Richard says, "I can't believe, he says, that there is a God."
07:39 He says, "It's a remote possibility
07:41 but I cannot believe there is a God."
07:45 He was debating with another Oxford professor
07:48 who is a humble Christian Professor John Lennox
07:52 who is no dummy.
07:55 He's professor of mathematics at Oxford University,
07:59 goodness me.
08:00 I can't even imagine.
08:05 Dawkins said to him, "Professor Lennox,"
08:10 he said, "You're an intelligent
08:13 and a reasonable man.
08:15 I cannot see how you can just build your life upon faith.
08:23 Said Professor Lennox, "But we have evidence."
08:30 Dawkins gave the classical reply of an unbeliever
08:33 who doesn't understand, he said,
08:34 "No, Christianity, it's all about
08:37 just believing, just faith."
08:40 John Lennox said, this is marvelous, he said,
08:46 "Doctor Dawkins,
08:47 do you have faith in your wife?"
08:50 No, he did, he did, he did,
08:51 he said, "Do you have faith in your wife?"
08:53 And Dr Dawkins took the bait.
08:57 He said, "Yes, of course, I have faith in my wife."
09:00 He said, "I believe in her."
09:02 And the old mathematician said, "Why do you believe?"
09:05 He said, "Because of what I see because of the...
09:10 He said, I have evidence to believe
09:12 that my wife is faithful."
09:16 He said, "Thank you."
09:20 Everybody got the point he said,
09:23 "We Christians do not have a blind faith.
09:27 We have faith,
09:29 because we have evidence to believe."
09:32 And therefore we believe in the resurrection
09:35 not because it makes us feel good.
09:38 We believe in the resurrection because of the witnesses.
09:43 Now there is another question
09:45 that we should ask the unbeliever.
09:47 And that is this, here it is.
09:50 After that Sunday there was nobody,
09:54 nobody in the tomb.
09:56 The question is what happened to the body?
10:01 This is a penetrating question
10:03 that deserves a penetrating analysis.
10:06 What happened to the body?
10:08 Now these are the alternatives, the disciples stole the body.
10:14 This is hard to believe that a group of dispirited
10:17 broken men would storm the tomb,
10:21 cast aside the Roman soldiers and steal the body.
10:27 This would be incredible.
10:29 In other words, it has no credence.
10:32 Number two,
10:34 if the disciples did not have the body,
10:37 then the Jews got the body.
10:40 They went to Pilate and they got the body,
10:44 that if this is so,
10:47 why did not the Jews who hated Christ
10:51 and the truth of the resurrection
10:52 produce the dead body.
10:56 This would be the end of Christianity,
10:58 the greatest destructive force
11:02 that you could bring against the Christian church
11:04 would be the dead body of Christ.
11:09 Now the third alternative
11:10 is that the Romans got the body,
11:14 but if the Romans had stolen the body,
11:18 they too hated this schism,
11:21 this sect of people who call themselves Christians.
11:26 The best way they could have destroyed
11:29 the Christian church
11:30 would have been like the Jews to say,
11:32 "Here is the body."
11:34 So if you can find the body of Christ,
11:36 you finish with Christianity.
11:40 So the disciples, the Jews, the Romans
11:43 and there's a fourth alternative
11:45 which is the only viable alternative.
11:47 There was nobody in the tomb,
11:49 because the body had been, resurrected.
11:53 And therefore, if you look at the evidence,
11:58 the evidence is overwhelming that Christ rose from the dead.
12:05 There was a great cynic and a great skeptic,
12:08 he was an American, he lived many years ago
12:12 now in the 1800 around the 1850s.
12:15 His name was Ingersoll. Have you heard of him.
12:19 Ingersoll, one of the greatest skeptics
12:22 in the history of America.
12:23 He became a skeptic because of what he saw
12:26 my Christian friends in the Christian church.
12:31 He said, if this, if this is what God is like,
12:35 I don't want to have anything to do with God.
12:38 And particularly the doctrine of eternal torment
12:43 that God will burn sinners for all eternity
12:47 in a mountain flame while they scream their
12:50 burning hearts out caused him to say,
12:55 If that is God, then God is the devil
12:58 and I hate him.
13:01 And this is understandable.
13:04 So Ingersoll became a skeptic and an unbeliever
13:08 because of the monstrous teaching
13:10 that God was the chief terrorist
13:13 and the torturer in chief.
13:18 He was asked to speak,
13:20 give the eulogy at his brother's grave
13:23 at his funeral.
13:25 Some of you will know the eulogy
13:26 starts with these words.
13:28 The loved and loving brother, husband,
13:30 father, friend, died,
13:32 where manhood's morning almost touches noon,
13:35 and while the shadows
13:37 still were falling toward the west.
13:39 So goes on with his beautiful poetry and artistry.
13:44 But at the very end
13:46 after he talks about his despair,
13:50 Ingersoll says these words,
13:53 "In the night of deaths, hope sees a star.
14:01 And listening love can hear the rustle of a wing."
14:09 Even in the heart of the skeptic
14:11 there is an innate belief
14:14 that we were not made for annihilation.
14:19 "In the night of death, hope sees a star
14:23 and listening love can hear the rustle of the wing.
14:27 Therefore, I believe in the bright shining star
14:33 and I believe in the rustle of the wing."
14:37 And I believe in these things
14:39 because, I believe in the evidence
14:43 that Christ rose from the dead and that Jesus Christ is alive.
14:49 Therefore, I believe in life after death.
14:52 Now today, we're going to ask some questions
14:56 of the Holy Scriptures not the Holy Church,
15:01 but the Holy Scriptures,
15:04 and the first question is this one.
15:06 Here it is.
15:08 Do people have immortal souls?
15:15 It is believed by vast numbers of people,
15:18 our Roman Catholic friends,
15:22 almost all of the Protestants, the Muslims,
15:28 virtually every religion believes
15:30 in the immortality of the soul.
15:32 Would you come over here to 1 Timothy 6.
15:35 1 Timothy 6:14-16...
15:43 In a Holy Scripture.
15:45 1 Timothy 6:14-16.
15:54 And here we have a text that talks about immortality,
15:58 1 Timothy 6:14 and onwards.
16:01 It says, "That you keep this commandment
16:04 without spot blameless
16:06 until our Lord Jesus Christ's appearing,
16:09 which he will manifest in His own time,
16:11 He who is the blessed and only Potentate,
16:13 the King of kings and Lord of lords."
16:16 What does it say?
16:18 Who only... What does it say?
16:19 Who only has immortality,
16:23 dwelling in unapproachable light,
16:25 whom no man has seen or can see
16:27 to whom be honor and everlasting power.
16:29 Amen.
16:31 The Bible says,
16:32 it says it's plain as anything that God alone is immortality.
16:38 When all the Catholics watching the telecast,
16:40 just listen to this.
16:43 If I had an immortal soul,
16:44 how could this text be in the Bible, you see.
16:48 God alone has immortality.
16:50 Now it is believed that we've got a person today
16:53 can have this immortal soul but the Bible says,
16:56 "That God alone has immortality."
16:59 And whatever the soul is the Bible teaches,
17:02 that the soul has the capacity to die
17:06 because we're looking now at Ezekiel 18:4.
17:11 Ezekiel 18:4, is the text that we're looking at,
17:18 Ezekiel 18:4,
17:21 the Bible says, "Behold, all souls are Mine.
17:25 The soul of the father
17:27 as well as the soul of the Son is Mine,
17:29 The soul who sins..."
17:30 What does it say? Die.
17:33 "Soul die."
17:34 So whatever the soul is,
17:37 the Bible says that the soul can die.
17:42 Therefore, if the soul can die, listen to this.
17:48 If the soul can die
17:51 and if God alone has immortality,
17:56 then the doctrine of the immortality of the soul
18:01 is not taught in the Bible.
18:03 Therefore, I believe in the resurrection,
18:06 but I do not believe in the immortality of the soul.
18:11 Are you listing to me God alone,
18:14 the Bible says, is immortal.
18:18 I've discovered this, listen to this.
18:21 Every, every religion in the world
18:27 teaches the immortality of the soul,
18:31 every religion in the world
18:34 teaches the immortality of the soul with one exception,
18:41 their religion of the Bible.
18:45 The Egyptians believed in the immortality.
18:48 So that's why they built the pyramids.
18:53 That's why they filled the tombs,
18:56 the mummies and embalmed them
18:59 because they believed that there was a thing
19:02 that lived inside the body, the soul.
19:07 You think it's a Christian idea.
19:09 My friend, it goes back
19:11 thousands of years before the Christian church.
19:15 People believed in the immortality of the soul.
19:19 Every religion in the world
19:21 believes in the immortality of the soul.
19:23 I tell you with one exception, one big exception
19:26 and that is the religion of the Bible.
19:31 Are you listening to me? Yeah.
19:34 So the Bible does not teach the doctrine
19:37 of the immortality of the soul.
19:40 Now we ask another very important question,
19:43 here it comes.
19:45 Where does the doctrine
19:46 of the immortality of the soul come from?
19:50 Now, I don't want to offend my Catholic friends,
19:52 but they believe in the immortality of the soul.
19:54 That's why they believe in eternal torment.
19:57 I don't wish to offend my most of my Protestant friends,
20:02 because they believe the same
20:03 as the Catholic church does on this,
20:05 that man has an immortal soul and because it cannot die,
20:11 the soul will be burned
20:13 and burned for billions and trillions of years.
20:17 That's a doctrine that made Ingersoll hate God.
20:22 So we asked the question,
20:24 where does the doctrine
20:26 of the immortality of the soul come from.
20:30 It comes from the Garden of Eden.
20:32 Would you believe it? Come with me to Genesis 3:1-5.
20:37 This will surprise you I think,
20:40 Genesis 3:1-5 dear hearts and gentle people,
20:46 Genesis 3:1-5.
20:51 "Now the serpent, now who is the serpent?
20:54 The serpent is Satan, that's the devil.
20:57 Now the serpent
20:59 was more cunning than any beast of the field
21:02 which the Lord God had made, Yahweh Elohim, Lord God.
21:05 He said to the woman, has God indeed said,
21:08 "You shall not eat of every tree of the garden?"
21:11 The woman said to the serpent,
21:12 "We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden,
21:16 we can do that, we can do that Mr. Serpent.
21:19 Verse 3, "But of the fruit of the tree
21:21 which is in the midst of the garden.
21:22 God has said, 'You shall not eat it,
21:26 nor shall you touch it lest you die."
21:29 God said, "If you break my law,
21:31 if you take the fruit, you're going to die."
21:35 Okay, because you've got an immortal soul.
21:39 Now read on little bit further.
21:41 This is what, this is what it says.
21:42 Let's read this again.
21:44 Look at verse 2, "The woman said to the serpent,
21:47 "We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden,
21:49 but of the fruit of the tree
21:50 which is in the midst of the garden,
21:52 God has said, 'You shall not eat it
21:54 nor shall you touch it, lest you die."
21:58 That's the truth,
21:59 "Then the serpent said to the woman,
22:01 "You will not surely die."
22:03 You see.
22:05 "For God knows that in the day
22:06 you eat of it your eyes will be opened,
22:09 and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."
22:14 Let's get this very plain.
22:18 God said, "If you eat of this fruit,
22:24 you are going to die."
22:28 The soul that sins it will die.
22:32 God alone has immortality.
22:35 But the serpent who is the great deceiver,
22:40 Lucifer the arch rebel, the great antichrist.
22:45 He said, "Go ahead and eat it, you won't die."
22:50 You see you've got an immortal soul
22:53 and you will become like God.
22:57 You cannot die."
23:00 Therefore, listen carefully,
23:03 the doctrine of the immortality of the soul
23:08 is not the doctrine of God.
23:12 It is the doctrine of the serpent.
23:16 Where did it come from?
23:18 It is the devil's lie.
23:23 So I believe in the resurrection.
23:27 But I do not believe for one moment
23:30 in the devil's lie.
23:33 Now have you heard of Socrates?
23:38 Yes.
23:40 Socrates was dying,
23:42 he had to drink this fatal hemlock,
23:46 Socrates said, "I don't care.
23:49 See this doesn't worry me to die.
23:51 His disciples were upset, he said, "I don't worry."
23:55 He said, "The body is a shell,
23:59 inside the shell is an immortal soul
24:03 and the soul cannot die."
24:08 You know where the Greeks got it from.
24:10 They got it from the Egyptians.
24:14 Egyptians passed down to the Babylonians
24:17 down to the Greeks, and the Greeks to the Romans,
24:20 and the Romans passed it down to the Roman Catholic Church,
24:26 and the Catholic Church gave it to the Protestant world.
24:32 So I believe that Christ rose from the dead.
24:38 My hope is in Christ.
24:41 My hope is in the resurrection.
24:43 My hope is not in the devil's lie.
24:49 Now, in our next program
24:52 which is coming up straight after.
24:55 We're going to talk about this.
24:57 Where do we go at death?
25:01 What happens at death?
25:04 Where do I go when I die?
25:11 My Catholic friends say, hell, purgatory, limbo.
25:16 Some say heaven, whatever.
25:20 What does the Bible teach?
25:22 Where are the beloved dead?
25:26 That's the next program.
25:42 Hi, I'm John Carter.
25:45 I guess the toughest place
25:47 that I've ever been to as far
25:48 as the preaching of the gospel is concerned is India.
25:53 Home to more than on a billion souls,
25:57 and I guess hundreds of millions of different Gods.
26:01 It almost overwhelms the senses.
26:05 What can we do? Well, we've been to India.
26:07 We've run outdoor meetings,
26:09 we've had thousands and thousands
26:12 of people Hindus and Muslims at our meetings
26:15 coming forward in altar calls.
26:17 But we're going to try to do something else as well.
26:20 We're going to start small.
26:22 We're starting with a program called,
26:25 "Touching The Untouchables."
26:28 And we're going to start with a little untouchable girls.
26:32 We're doing this now.
26:34 We're getting them food, because they're so hungry,
26:36 hard to come to Jesus when you're hungry.
26:40 And so we're getting them food
26:42 and we'll be sending them to school.
26:45 We're trying to feed their souls
26:47 and fill their bellies.
26:49 In India, home to more than a billion souls
26:55 and hundreds of millions of Gods
26:58 controlled by evil spirits, please help us in this work.
27:02 Please help us, write to me John Carter,
27:05 P.O. Box 1900, Thousand Oaks, California 91358,
27:11 or write to me at Terrigal in Australia.
27:13 We have an Australian office as we have an Indian office
27:18 with somebody there working full time
27:21 trying to touch the with untouchables
27:24 with a love of Jesus.
27:27 Please write to me today, and Jesus said,
27:31 "I have come to seek
27:32 and to save that which was lost."
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