Participants: Pr. John Carter
Series Code: CR
Program Code: CR001634A
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00:13 So glad to see you today.
00:15 Let's get started. 00:16 The topic is part three, "Shall we return to Rome?" 00:20 Shall we go back to the Roman Catholic Church? 00:24 Is the great Protestant Reformation finished? 00:27 Shall we return to Rome? 00:29 Shall we unite with the Roman Catholic Church 00:32 for the salvation of the world? 00:34 This is part three of a four part series. 00:39 Pope Francis is not an ordinary pope. 00:43 He seems to be genuinely concerned for people's needs 00:47 whether they be rich or poor, black, white, Muslim or Jew, 00:53 Catholic or Protestant, heterosexual or homosexual. 00:59 He also drives a cute little Fiat motor car. 01:04 So how could you dislike a pope, 01:07 when he drives around not in a big flashy Mercedes 01:10 but in a little Fiat? 01:12 He also has a wonderful smile. 01:17 I've heard Protestants say 01:19 concerning their church leaders, 01:21 "We wish we had a leader like the pope, 01:24 he seem so nice." 01:25 He reminds many people of Jesus. 01:29 After all he is called what? 01:33 The Vicar of Christ. 01:35 He seems to want to bend the rules 01:37 and make the church 01:38 more welcoming and accommodating. 01:41 He's not one of the frozen chosen. 01:46 He says, "Who am I to judge? 01:49 I am a sinner." 01:50 When did you ever hear a pope say that I'm a sinner. 01:54 Adventists have said some very nice things about Catholics. 01:59 Ellen White, the Adventist prophet said 02:02 the majority of true Christians 02:04 were found in the Catholic Church. 02:05 Oh, actually she said in the Protestant 02:09 and Catholic churches. 02:12 So we love Roman Catholics, 02:14 but huge doctrinal differences remain 02:17 that cannot be swept just so, so under the ecumenical carpet. 02:22 We must differentiate between the teachings and the people. 02:27 Now, tell me here you like this. 02:29 This is from Charles Spurgeon 02:31 who has been described as the greatest preacher 02:34 since the Great Saint Paul. 02:37 He said this, "A time will come 02:39 when instead of shepherds feeding the sheep, 02:42 the church will have clowns entertaining the goats." 02:47 He said instead of shepherds feeding the sheep, 02:51 the church will have clowns entertaining the goats. 02:56 Spurgeon believed that truth was important 02:59 and that is why Spurgeon disagreed so strongly 03:03 with the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. 03:08 Would you please come in the Bible 03:10 to the words of our Lord, 03:11 John 8:31, 32, dear hearts and gentle people. 03:17 John 8 and we're so glad to welcome you today 03:20 and especially our television audience around the world 03:24 and down there into Latin America 03:27 and across the great United States, 03:29 into Australia and beyond. 03:32 John 8:31, 32, 03:35 "Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed in Him, 03:38 "If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. 03:42 And you shall know the truth, 03:45 and the truth shall make you free." 03:50 So my friends, 03:51 there is no freedom apart from the truth. 03:57 We are looking today at some great Roman Catholic doctrines 04:01 and this doctrine is number six in the series of doctrines 04:06 we're looking at. 04:07 Here it is, the Celebration of the Mass 04:12 and the Cross of Christ. 04:15 The mass is the very, very heart, soul 04:21 and essence of the Vatican 04:25 and the Catholic Church. 04:28 I want to read you from the Council of Trent. 04:31 What's the Council of Trent? 04:33 That was a part of the Counter Reformation 04:35 that the Catholics called to answer the teachings 04:39 of the Protestant reformers. 04:41 Listen, 04:43 the decrees of the Council of Trent are binding today 04:49 on every pope and every Roman Catholic, 04:52 don't forget this. 04:54 Council of Trent, it says this, 04:59 "The same Christ who offered himself once in a bloody manner 05:03 on the altar of the cross, is present and offered 05:07 in an unbloody manner in the Mass." 05:13 The Catholic Church teaches in the Council of Trent 05:16 that the mass is not a memorial service 05:20 but it is a sacrifice of propitiation the same 05:26 as the cross of Christ. 05:29 I want to read to you from a famous Roman Catholic, 05:33 James Joyce, 05:35 an old priest is talking to him, 05:37 wanting him to become a priest, 05:38 "To receive that call Steven said to priest, 05:41 is the greatest honor that the Almighty God 05:43 can bestow upon a man, 05:45 no king or emperor on this earth 05:47 has the power of the priest of God. 05:49 No king or emperor on this earth has the power 05:52 of the priest of God. 05:53 No angel or archangel in heaven. 05:56 No saint not even the Blessed Virgin herself 05:59 has the power of the priest of God, 06:02 the power of the keys, 06:03 the power to bind and to loose from sin. 06:06 The power of exorcism, 06:08 the power to cast out from the creatures of God, 06:12 the evil spirits that have power over them, the power, 06:15 the authority to make the great God of heaven 06:19 come down up on the altar 06:22 and take the form of bread and wine, 06:25 what an awful power." 06:30 And so a priest must have something to sacrifice 06:33 or else he's not a priest. 06:36 And through the doctrine of transubstantiation 06:39 that was reinforced in the Council of Trent 06:42 and that is believed by Pope Francis, 06:45 every pope has the authority to bring Almighty God down 06:49 from heaven and put him on the cross. 06:53 Let me read on to you. 06:55 This is the doctrine of course of transubstantiation 06:58 but before we go any further, 07:00 I want you to notice Matthew 26:26-28 07:03 because on this text they based 07:05 the doctrine of transubstantiation. 07:08 Matthew 26:26-28, Matthew 26, 07:13 "And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, 07:15 blessed and broke it, 07:16 and gave it to the disciples and said, 07:18 "Take, eat, this is My body." 07:20 Then he took the cup, 07:21 and gave thanks, and gave it to them, 07:23 saying, "Drink from it, all of you. 07:25 For this is My blood of the new covenant, 07:28 which is shed for many for the remission of sins." 07:30 Therefore the Catholic Church says that 07:32 when the priest takes the bread and the wine and say, 07:36 "This is my body, 07:38 this is my blood." 07:39 It is actually transformed 07:41 through the doctrine of transubstantiation 07:43 into the body and the blood of Christ 07:46 and the priest offers this up as a propitiation 07:50 to turn away the wrath of God in the mass. 07:53 Did you know this? 07:56 But the Bible is a book of symbolic language. 07:59 Jesus said, "I am the door." 08:00 Do we take that literally, He said, "I am the vine." 08:03 Jesus was talking symbolic language. 08:06 The Council of Trent in 1562 said this, 08:09 "If anyone says that in the mass 08:12 a true and proper sacrifice is not offered to God... 08:16 let him be anathema." 08:18 Let him be cursed. 08:20 And then the council goes on to say, 1562, 08:24 "If anyone saith that 08:25 the sacrifice of the mass 08:27 is only a sacrifice of praise... 08:30 or that it is a bare commemoration of the sacrifice 08:33 consummated on the cross, not a propitiatory sacrifice... 08:37 let him be anathema." 08:39 I don't know if you understand this, 08:40 if you're getting this. 08:42 A sacrifice of propitiation is what 08:45 God and Christ did on the cross... 08:48 where the wrath of God is turned away 08:50 because of the sacrifice. 08:52 So when the priest says, "This is my body. 08:54 This is my blood." 08:55 And holds it up, that's when the people bow down 08:58 because the very presence of God is in it 09:01 and he offers up Christ again on the cross. 09:08 And this of course goes against everything in scripture. 09:11 And this is why 09:12 the Church of Rome has never, never been big in scripture, 09:16 and this is why Roman Catholic people 09:17 that we love very much are not encouraged 09:20 to read the Bible. 09:21 Look at Hebrews 7:26, 27 09:24 Hebrews 7:26, 27. 09:27 The Bible says, 09:28 "For such a High Priest was fitting for us, 09:30 who is holy, harmless, undefiled, 09:33 separate from sinners, 09:34 and has become higher than the heavens, 09:37 who does not need daily, as those high priests, 09:40 to offer up sacrifices, 09:41 first for His own sins 09:43 and then for the people's, for this He did, 09:46 look at the words, 09:47 once for all when He offered up Himself." 09:50 The Bible tells me that Christ is our High Priest 09:53 and His sacrifice, never forget it, 09:56 was once and for all time. 10:00 This is the teaching of the word. 10:03 Then if you come to Hebrews 10:10-14, 10:06 Hebrews 10:10-14. 10:09 "By that will we have been sanctified 10:11 through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ 10:14 once it says, once for all. 10:18 And every priest stands ministering daily 10:21 and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, 10:24 which can never take away sins." 10:25 This is talking about the Old Testament priest, 10:27 "But this Man, after He had offered 10:30 one sacrifice for sins forever, 10:34 sat down at the right hand of God, 10:35 from that time waiting 10:37 till His enemies are made His footstool. 10:40 For by one offering 10:42 He is perfected forever 10:43 those who are being sanctified." 10:45 The Bible teaches that the work of Christ 10:48 on the cross was once and for all, 10:52 and to say that the sacrifice of the mass 10:54 is offering up Christ again is a blasphemy 10:58 in the face of God. 10:59 This is why we don't believe it. 11:02 The Lord sacrifice is a memorial not a sacrifice. 11:06 Come to 1 Corinthians 11:23 and onwards, 11:10 1 Corinthians 11:23 11:14 and onwards in the word of God. 11:16 Paul says, "For I received from the Lord 11:19 that which I also deliver to you: 11:21 that the Lord Jesus on the same night in 11:23 which He was betrayed took bread, 11:25 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, 11:27 "Take, eat, this is My body 11:30 which is broken for you, this do in, " What? 11:32 "In remembrance of Me." 11:34 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, 11:36 "This cup is the new covenant in My blood. 11:39 This do, as often as you drink it, 11:42 in remembrance of Me." 11:44 For as often as you eat this bread 11:46 and drink this cup, 11:47 you proclaim the Lord's death till He comes." 11:50 The Lord's supper is not a sacrifice, 11:54 it is a memorial of the sacrifice 11:57 that was once for all. 11:59 On the cross, listen Jesus on the cross 12:02 made an atoning sacrifice for the sins of the world, 12:05 He said, "It is finished," He didn't say it started. 12:08 He paid the price, 12:10 redeemed the world, took our place, 12:13 satisfied through a propitiation, 12:17 the justice of God and nothing can add to 12:20 or subtract from that work. 12:22 "Once for all." 12:23 "Never to be repeated," 12:25 It was determined dead and done. 12:30 Therefore, the mass is unscriptural 12:35 and is a counterfeit Calvary. 12:40 It is blasphemy. 12:42 It is a grose distortion of Holy Scripture. 12:45 Now here is some good news for Catholics and Protestants, 12:47 "As a repentant sinner 12:49 I can come to Christ now in faith 12:51 and accept His death for my sin now. 12:54 I can be forgiven and saved now without an earthly priest 13:00 and without the mass 13:02 which is man's way not God's way." 13:05 Now doctrine number seven, 13:07 The Priesthood and the Pope. 13:12 There are no popes mentioned in the Bible. 13:16 Peter was a married man 13:20 and Peter was not the pope. 13:27 There is no historian except a Roman Catholic person 13:31 employed by the church who says this. 13:34 Jesus said in Matthew 23:9, 13:37 "Do not call anyone on earth your father." 13:40 He's talking about in a spiritual sense. 13:43 "But One is your Father, He who is in heaven." 13:46 The Bible says, "Don't call any person your father." 13:49 And then if you come to John 17:11, John 17:11, 13:55 now Jesus said, "I'm no longer in the world, 13:57 but these are in the world, and I come to You. 14:00 Holy Father..." 14:03 There is one Holy Father, that is God, 14:08 there is no Holy Father on this earth. 14:13 Pope Francis says, 14:14 "We are a race of sinners, amen. 14:16 Who am I to judge, I am a sinner." 14:19 But wait on, 14:20 we will be judged by the word of God. 14:24 Who am I to judge? 14:25 No, not the pope, but the word of God, 14:28 and the word of God has spoken, 14:30 "No spiritual leader should accept the title 14:32 that belongs only to God in heaven. 14:34 That's very close to blasphemy." 14:36 There is no legitimate God ordained 14:40 priesthood on this earth 14:42 since the Old Testament Jewish system of priests 14:46 and animal sacrifices were abolished at the cross. 14:49 None at all, none at all. 14:51 No priesthood on this earth that is legitimate. 14:55 Hebrews 7:12, Hebrews 7:12, 22-27, 15:00 "For the priesthood being changed..." 15:03 Did you hear this? 15:05 When Jesus died, "the priesthood was changed, 15:10 of necessity there is also a change of the law. 15:13 By so much more 15:15 Jesus has become a surety of a better covenant." 15:19 There were many priests back then, 15:20 because they were prevented from by death 15:23 from continuing in their work. 15:25 "But He, because He continues forever, 15:28 has an unchangeable priesthood. 15:31 Therefore He is able to save to the uttermost 15:34 those who come to God through Him, 15:36 since He always lives to make intercession for them. 15:39 For such a High Priest was fitting for us, 15:43 who is holy, harmless, undefiled, 15:45 separate from sinners, 15:46 and has become higher than the heavens, 15:49 who does not need daily, as those high priests, 15:53 to offer up sacrifices, 15:55 first for His own sins 15:57 and then for the people's, 15:58 for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself." 16:03 So the Bible teaches 16:04 there are no, no, no earthly priests. 16:09 That's the teaching of the Bible. 16:11 That's the word of God, Hebrews 8:1, 16:13 Hebrews 8:1 the Bible says, 16:16 "Now this is the main point of the things we are saying: 16:19 We have such a High Priest, 16:21 who is seated at the right hand of the throne." 16:24 This is not talking about the pope. 16:26 It is talking about our Lord Jesus Christ 16:30 because He is our priest. 16:33 Hebrews 10:11-14, 16:35 Hebrews 10:11-14, Hebrews 10, 16:39 "And every priest stands ministering daily..." 16:42 This is the Old Testament. 16:43 "And offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, 16:47 which can never take away sins. 16:49 But this Man, after He had offered 16:51 one sacrifice for sins forever, 16:56 sat down of the right hand of God, 16:58 from that time waiting 16:59 till His enemies are made His footstool. 17:01 For by one offering He is perfected forever 17:07 those who are being sanctified." 17:10 So does the church need a priest today? 17:12 I asked the question, 17:13 does the church need a priest today? 17:15 Yes. 17:17 Christ. 17:20 Christ is the priest. 17:23 The system of earthly priests was abolished 17:28 and nailed to the cross. 17:30 We have a great high priest, we go directly to Him. 17:35 We don't need mediators. 17:37 we have direct access. 17:39 I've got other texts, I can put in here 17:41 but I just don't have time like Hebrews 4, 17:43 I'm not going to put it in, 17:45 1 Timothy 2 tells us, it tells us that, 17:48 "There's only one God and only one God 17:51 and there's only one Mediator between us and God 17:54 and that is the Man Christ Jesus." 17:57 I want you to know this. 17:58 We've got a priest 18:00 and the church does need a priest, 18:01 Christ. 18:03 I think when I was running meetings 18:05 in the Roman Catholic country of the Philippines, 18:10 I was there in Manila... 18:12 By the way it's my old friend Graeme Bradford 18:15 and the guy with the curly hair over there, 18:18 that was what I used to be. 18:22 This was actually on death row. 18:24 We are baptizing young men 18:26 who were being sent to their deaths, 18:28 because they were terrorists. 18:32 But I told them Christ had borne the price of their sin 18:36 and they could come directly to God through Jesus Christ 18:41 who is our priest. 18:44 And that's true for every one of you. 18:47 The other system is a counterfeit system. 18:51 Now, I love John and Charles Wesley, 18:54 also love John Newton 18:55 who gave us the hymn Amazing Grace. 18:58 I want to read to you from Charles Wesley, 19:01 this great preacher. 19:03 You see, the Wesleys led John Newton to Christ 19:07 and John Newton gave us Amazing Grace. 19:11 Charles Wesley, he wrote, 19:12 "He left His Father's throne above, 19:14 So free, so infinite His grace, 19:16 Emptied Himself of all but love, 19:19 And bled for Adam's helpless race 19:21 "Tis mercy all, Immense and free, 19:25 For, O my God, it found out me. 19:29 Long my imprisoned spirit lay fast bound in sin 19:33 and nature's night, 19:34 Thine eye diffused a quickening ray, 19:37 I woke, the dungeon flame with light, 19:42 My chains fell off, my heart was free, 19:46 I rose, went forth, and followed thee." 19:50 Don't need a pope for that. 19:52 Don't need an earthly priest for that. 19:56 What I'm talking today is the heart of the Protestant faith. 20:00 "No condemnation now I dread, Jesus, and all in Him, is mine! 20:05 Alive in Him, my living Head, 20:07 And clothed in righteousness Divine, 20:11 Bold I approach the eternal throne, 20:15 And claim the crown, through Christ my own." 20:18 Bold I approach the eternal throne, 20:21 And claim the crown, through Christ my own. 20:25 This is the good news. 20:27 I can come to Christ today, 20:29 I can be free today because of Amazing Grace. 20:34 So I reject categorically the doctrine of the priesthood, 20:37 the earthly priesthood 20:38 and the doctrine of the mass on the authority of scripture. 20:44 Now, the Lord God, 20:46 all mainstream churches teach the Ten Commandments, 20:50 Church of Rome, Baptist Church, 20:52 Methodist Church, Church of England. 20:54 James 2:10-12. 20:57 James 2, "For whatever, 20:59 whoever shall keep the whole law, 21:01 and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. 21:05 That He who said, "Do not commit adultery," 21:07 also said, "Do not murder," 21:09 Now if you do not commit adultery, 21:11 but if you do murder, 21:12 you have become a transgressor of the law. 21:14 So speak and so do 21:15 as those who are going to be judged by the law of liberty." 21:19 Every mainstream church 21:23 believes in the Commandments. 21:27 Spoken by the mouth of God written with the finger of God. 21:32 Listen, the papacy claims the authority to change 21:37 the holy law of God. 21:39 You say, no, no, no, no. 21:41 Yes, I'll give it to you from the Church of Rome, 21:44 Peter Gelermann. 21:45 The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine: 21:51 Which is the Sabbath day? 21:52 Answer: Saturday is the Sabbath day. 21:55 Question: Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday? 21:59 Answer: We observe Sunday instead of Saturday, 22:01 because the Catholic Church 22:02 transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday. 22:07 And this work received 22:08 the apostolic blessing of Pope Pius X. 22:11 Stephen Keenan, A Doctrinal Catechism. 22:14 Question: Have you any other way of proving 22:17 that the church has power 22:18 to institute festivals of precept? 22:21 Answer: Had she not such power, 22:23 she could not have done that 22:25 in which all modern religionists agree with her, 22:27 she could not have substituted 22:29 the observance of Saturday the seventh day, 22:32 a change for which 22:34 there is no Scriptural authority. 22:39 Then The Catholic Mirrors, September 23, 1893, 22:43 the voice of the Vatican, 22:45 "The Catholic Church for over one thousand years 22:49 before the existence of a Protestant, 22:51 by virtue of her divine mission, 22:54 changed the day from Saturday to Sunday." 23:00 So it comes down. 23:02 It's very easy if you've got an open mind, 23:06 and if you're honest to God. 23:10 He choose very easy, shall I follow the Word of God 23:14 or shall I follow the Word of the Church? 23:19 And the Devil is still on the march on us. 23:21 He's got people to think in ten second sound bites 23:28 and know nothing about 23:30 what it is written in Holy Scripture, 23:34 and that is why that great church has discouraged 23:38 for hundreds of years the reading of the Bible. 23:45 Listen, 23:47 here it is, a question of the authority. 23:50 The voice of a very fallible church 23:54 or the voice of an infallible Bible, 23:59 the word of God 24:01 or the word of man. 24:06 Shall we return to Rome, 24:09 the Rome of tradition and of false gospel? 24:16 Now I've got a fair bit of British blood in me, 24:20 and I can remember the words of Prime Minister 24:23 Winston Spencer Churchill 24:26 when confronted by the destruction of Great Britain 24:29 and the triumph of the Nazis. 24:32 Churchill said, "Never give up. 24:38 Never give up. 24:41 Never give up." 24:42 He was not a namby-pamby. 24:49 He had a backbone 24:53 and he had Protestantism in his soul. 24:59 Never give up, he said. 25:03 Never give up. 25:06 Never give up. 25:07 And they didn't 25:08 and they beat the great Nazi war machine. 25:13 The boys who went up in the Spitfire 17 and 18 25:17 took on the world's greatest 25:21 and completely defeated them, 25:23 ignominiously they were defeated. 25:25 Never give up. 25:27 Shall we return to Rome? 25:30 Here is the answer. 25:31 Never, never, never 25:37 until Rome returns to God 25:42 and the God of the Bible. 25:46 Never, never, never 25:53 but more amazing truths 25:56 just moments away for an instance. 26:00 What does Bible prophecy teach about the Vatican? 26:06 Stay with us. 26:19 Hi there, I'm John Carter in Havana, Cuba. 26:22 This communist fortress, 26:23 we're here to preach 26:25 the gospel of Christ to the public, 26:27 but more than this, 26:28 we are running a school of evangelism 26:31 and biblical studies for the Cuban pastors, 26:36 140 pastors coming from right across this wonderful island 26:42 and they're coming to join with us to study how best 26:45 we can meet the needs of the Cuban people. 26:49 The Cuban people are just the most wonderful people, 26:52 they're warm, friendly, 26:54 but I'm amazed that in the meetings every night 26:57 that we are taking 26:58 that I think most of the people there are young people. 27:03 Now, of course when I say young people, 27:04 I mean people up to say 35 years of age. 27:08 They're young to me, 27:10 but they're so warm and they're receptive 27:14 and when they come forward night by night to accept Jesus, 27:17 they come with tremendous sincerity. 27:20 So what a privilege it is to be here 27:22 in the land of Cuba. 27:24 But remember to pray for the pastors. 27:28 One hundred and forty pastors are coming from Guantanamo Bay 27:33 and other places right across this island nation. 27:36 They're coming to join forces with us. 27:38 Think of this, they're coming from Guantanamo Bay 27:42 and everywhere. 27:43 We're going to meet with them, study with them, 27:46 pray with them, 27:47 to devise the best means of reaching this nation 27:52 for the Lord Jesus Christ, 27:54 and thank you for being my special partner. 28:21 For a copy of today's program, 28:23 please contact us at PO Box 1900, 28:26 Thousand Oaks, California 91358 28:30 or in Australia contact us at PO Box 861, 28:35 Terrigal, New South Wales 2260. 28:40 This program is made possible 28:41 through the generous support of viewers like you. 28:44 We thank you for your continued support. 28:47 May God richly bless you. |
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