Carter Report, The

Shall We Return to Rome? -part 4

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00:13 Welcome back, glad to see you.
00:15 Let's get started.
00:17 The topic is Shall We Return to Rome?
00:20 And this is part 4 in the series.
00:22 Millions of voices are now urging
00:25 a rapid return to Rome millions of Protestants.
00:29 This is made urgent by deteriorating world conditions,
00:32 example, increasing natural disasters,
00:36 increasing terrorism and violence,
00:39 increasing the increasing risk of nuclear war
00:43 with crazy nations, and collapsing moral standards.
00:48 The cry is heard across America,
00:50 around Australia and Europe.
00:52 We need a father, we need a shepherd to lead us,
00:57 that leader is the Holy Father, the Pope of Rome.
01:02 Now, let it be made very plain,
01:03 there are many good things
01:06 I like about the Pope and the Catholic Church.
01:10 I like, I got to confess this, confession is good for soul.
01:15 The grand ceremonies I like ceremony,
01:20 I like it when they have the coronation in
01:22 or a wedding in Westminster Abbey
01:25 that sort of chokes me up.
01:26 The grand ceremonies,
01:28 the pomp and the display have a strong appeal.
01:32 And Pope Francis God bless him, is a pastor,
01:37 not another church bureaucrat, I like that.
01:41 and so today when we're talking about
01:44 what we like and what we don't like
01:46 let it be made very plain,
01:47 we're not criticizing people,
01:50 because there are good and bad people
01:52 in every church including my own church,
01:56 good and bad people, sheep and goats.
02:00 But we're talking about system
02:01 that I believe rests upon a man made foundation.
02:04 Today we're comparing the teachings
02:06 of the Roman church with the Bible.
02:09 And no offences meant to any sincere
02:12 good Roman Catholic, like my relatives.
02:18 This is essential
02:20 when many Protestants are thinking of returning to Rome.
02:24 They see no differences,
02:26 we need to look below the surface.
02:29 There we come to Doctrine chapter 9 in the series,
02:32 Baptism and the New Birth, why?
02:38 Because Rome invented infant baptism.
02:42 My Roman Catholic relatives wanted me
02:45 as a baby to be baptized by the priest,
02:49 they wanted me to become a Roman Catholic priest.
02:55 That's another story.
02:57 I was later baptized as a young man.
03:00 The Bible teaches the baptism of those
03:03 who are old enough to intelligently
03:06 and willingly accept Christ.
03:09 Now take your Bible and come over here
03:10 to Matthew 3 and verses onwards,
03:13 now we got a little bit here in this chapter,
03:15 read Matthew 3:1 and onwards,
03:18 "In those days
03:19 John the Baptist came preaching in the wilderness of Judea,
03:23 and saying,
03:24 "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!"
03:27 For this is he who was spoken of by the prophet Isaiah."
03:31 Verse 5 and 6, "Then Jerusalem, all Judea,
03:35 and all the region around the Jordan
03:37 went out to him and were baptized by him",
03:40 what does it say?
03:41 "In the Jordan, confessing their sins."
03:44 Baptized in the river.
03:47 And then verses 13 and onwards,
03:49 "Then Jesus came from Galilee to John
03:51 at the Jordan to be baptized by him.
03:53 But John tried to prevent him, saying,
03:56 "I need to be baptized by you, and are you coming to me?"
04:00 But Jesus answered and said to him,
04:01 "Permit it to be so now,
04:03 for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness."
04:06 Then he allowed him.
04:08 When he had been baptized,
04:09 Jesus came up immediately from the water and behold,
04:12 the heavens were opened to him,
04:13 and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove
04:16 and a lighting upon him.
04:18 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying,
04:20 "This is my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased."
04:27 " Jesus is our Lord, our savior,
04:32 and was baptized as an adult, in the river Jordan.
04:39 And he was baptized not by sprinkling.
04:44 He was baptized by immersion.
04:47 Come over here to John 3:23,
04:51 John 3 it says,
04:53 and John that's "John the Baptist,
04:55 also was baptizing in Aenon near Salim,
04:58 because there was much water there.
05:02 And they came and were baptized."
05:05 If John the Baptists had been sprinkling babies
05:07 he would have needed a cup of water.
05:10 But he was baptizing people by the thousands,
05:14 and I've had the privilege of doing this
05:15 and he was doing it in a river.
05:19 So baptism is only true really my friend,
05:24 when it's done with people who know what they're doing
05:27 and they're totally immersed.
05:29 Baptism is a sign of being born again.
05:32 You say, "What on earth is that?"
05:34 Well, come over here to John 3: 3-7, John 3,
05:39 "Jesus answered and said to Nicodemus,
05:42 "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again,
05:45 he cannot see the kingdom of God."
05:47 Nicodemus said to Him,
05:49 "How can a man be born when he is old?
05:52 Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb
05:54 and be born?"
05:56 Jesus answered, "Most assuredly, I say to you,
06:00 unless one is born of water and the spirit,
06:05 he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
06:07 That which is born of the flesh is flesh,
06:10 and that which is born of the spirit is spirit.
06:12 Do not marvel that I say this to you,
06:15 'You must be born again.'
06:18 " Now Jesus said that this baptism in the river,
06:22 this baptism with water is a symbol
06:26 of something a lot bigger.
06:29 Something more profound it is being born again.
06:34 And this is when God gives people new spiritual life
06:40 that doesn't happen when you're a baby.
06:42 It happens when a person comes
06:45 as a penitent sinner to Christ.
06:48 Come over here to John 1: 11-13,
06:52 John 1: 11-13,
06:56 John 1: 11-13, the Bible says,
07:01 "He came to his own,
07:03 and his own did not receive him.
07:04 But as many as received him,
07:06 to them he gave the right to become children of God,
07:10 to those who believe in his name,
07:12 who were born, not of blood,
07:14 nor of the will of the flesh,
07:16 nor of the will of man, but of God."
07:19 The Bible says when I come to Christ in true faith,
07:24 I am born again
07:27 and baptism by total immersion is the symbol
07:33 of coming to Christ and being born again.
07:37 Listen carefully
07:41 when I was boy,
07:43 I attended a meeting at Avondale
07:45 I heard preacher,
07:47 an English preacher speak on that God filled a blank
07:51 after so many years.
07:52 I can see him, hear the sermon.
07:56 He said, "Is a boy here and he's got a blank,
07:59 he's got an emptiness in his soul."
08:04 I thought of myself, how does he know?
08:06 It's me.
08:08 We've all got emptiness in our souls,
08:11 only God can fill the emptiness, you see.
08:16 When I come to Christ in true faith
08:19 he fills the emptiness and I become a new person
08:26 and this is called in the Bible the new birth.
08:29 Listen to this,
08:30 the Roman Catholic Church like some Protestant churches.
08:35 The Roman Catholic Church
08:37 emphasizes union with the church.
08:42 Protestantism emphasizes union with Christ,
08:46 and a personal relationship with Christ.
08:50 You see, you can be united to the church,
08:53 you can be a part of the church,
08:55 but unless you are in Christ, and unless Christ is in you,
09:01 you won't see the kingdom of God.
09:03 That's what Jesus said, so you got be born again.
09:06 Jesus said, you're not gonna see the kingdom of God
09:10 that's true with the Pope and all the priests
09:12 and everybody else,
09:13 that's true with you and me, Jesus said,
09:16 "You've got to be born again."
09:19 Now, number 10
09:23 this is more than a doctrine this is a summary of ideas.
09:26 Number 10 the battle cry,
09:29 the Protestant reformers against the papacy.
09:34 This is very heart and soul of it.
09:36 Number one, Sola Christus,
09:39 it's only Christ.
09:41 John 14:6, Jesus said,
09:44 "I am the way, the truth, and the life.
09:46 No one comes to the Father except through me."
09:50 You don't come to the father through the Pope or a priest,
09:54 you come through Christ,
09:56 because he is the only way we believe in Sola Christus.
10:03 Sola Scriptura only Scripture.
10:08 The Bible is not judged by the church,
10:11 the church is judged by the Bible.
10:14 Look at 2 Timothy 3:15 to 17
10:16 and that includes my church and every other church,
10:21 "And that from childhood
10:22 you have known the Holy Scriptures,
10:24 which are able to make you wise for salvation
10:26 through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
10:29 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God,
10:34 and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof,
10:37 for correction,
10:39 for instruction in righteousness,
10:41 that the man of God may be complete,
10:45 thoroughly equipped for every good work."
10:49 And doctrines do not come from the church,
10:52 and doctrines come from Holy Scripture.
10:57 Our authority is not the voice of the church,
11:01 my authority is not the voice of my church.
11:04 The authority of the church is the word of God.
11:09 Not the voice of the church fathers,
11:11 not the voice of tradition,
11:14 but the voice of God speaking through his word.
11:18 Sola Christus,
11:19 Sola's not all Protestants believe this,
11:22 because in their own hearts they've got more Catholicism
11:26 than they have the teachings of Luther.
11:29 Sola Christus, Sola Scriptura, number three,
11:32 Sola Gratia only grace.
11:35 Ephesians 2:8 and 9,
11:38 "For by grace you have been saved through faith,
11:43 and that not of yourselves,
11:45 it is the gift of God, not of works,
11:48 lest anyone should boast."
11:50 We're not saved by our human merit all
11:54 because we are good enough
11:55 we are saved by the mercy and the grace of God.
12:00 And then number four Soal Fide,
12:03 that means only Faith,
12:06 not faith in works, Sola Fide.
12:10 Romans 1:17,
12:15 "For in it the righteousness of God is revealed
12:19 from faith to faith, as it is written,
12:23 "The just shall live by faith."
12:26 " I am not saved by faith
12:28 and works I am saved by a faith that works.
12:34 And there's a clear distinction nothing in my hand,
12:38 I bring simply to thy cross I cling.
12:43 Sola Christus, Sola Scriptura,
12:45 Sola Gratia, and Sola Fide.
12:48 Doctrine number 11,
12:52 and now we deal with a doctrine
12:56 which is overwhelming in importance.
12:59 The intercession of the saints and prayers for the dead.
13:05 The Roman Catholic Church teaches that the saints Mary,
13:09 Peter, James and John,
13:11 and more recently
13:13 mother Theresa can intercede for us
13:16 and we can pray to them
13:18 and they have a great power with God.
13:22 But listen
13:26 the Bible teaches that the dead are sleeping.
13:31 I want you to see this John 11: 11-14,
13:35 the words of Christ,
13:37 "These things he said, and after that he said to them,
13:40 "Our friend Lazarus sleeps,
13:42 but I go that I may wake him up."
13:45 Then his disciples said,
13:46 "Lord, if he sleeps he will get well."
13:48 However, Jesus spoke of his death,
13:52 but they thought that he was speaking
13:53 about taking rest in sleep.
13:55 Then Jesus said to them plainly,
13:58 "Lazarus is dead."
14:01 Contrary to the views expressed
14:04 by a thousand theologians,
14:06 the Bible teaches that death is a sleep.
14:11 Therefore the Blessed Virgin Mary,
14:13 and Saint Peter,
14:14 and Saint Paul are not interceding,
14:17 they're sleeping and waiting the resurrection.
14:20 John 5:28 and 29,
14:23 you can see the great significance of this.
14:26 "Do not marvel at this for the hour is coming in
14:28 which all who are in the graves will hear,"
14:31 Well, He didn't say all those who are in purgatory and hell.
14:34 "Will here his voice and come forth
14:36 those who have done good,
14:38 to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil,
14:41 to the resurrection of condemnation or damnation."
14:43 The Bible teaches that
14:45 the saints are sleeping in the grave,
14:48 are awaiting the life call of Christ.
14:53 Now come over here to 1 Corinthians 15:3-6,
14:56 1 Corinthians 15
14:57 and you can see we use Sola Scriptura.
15:02 And some people when they hear this rejoice,
15:06 others get angry,
15:09 because I wish to hold on to old traditions
15:13 which in the end will damn their souls.
15:15 1 Corinthians 15:3-6,
15:18 "For I delivered to you first of all
15:20 that which I received, that Christ died for our sins
15:24 according to the Scriptures,
15:26 and that he was buried,
15:28 and that he rose again the third day
15:29 according to the Scriptures,
15:31 and that he was seen by Cephas,
15:33 then by the twelve.
15:34 After that he was seen by over 500 brethren at once,
15:38 of whom the greater part remain to the present,
15:41 but some have fallen asleep."
15:45 So the Bible says,
15:46 that some of the saints back in those days
15:49 had already died they had fallen asleep.
15:53 And listen very carefully,
15:55 therefore there are no people in hell,
16:01 no people in purgatory and no people in heaven.
16:06 The dead is sleeping
16:08 awaiting the resurrection of the righteous
16:10 or the damned.
16:12 Everybody is going to be raised.
16:14 The idea that the saints can help us is a great deception,
16:18 thus the true church is built upon the living Christ,
16:24 not upon a dead man.
16:29 Now when the great Catholic Church,
16:31 that we love and respect
16:33 when it says our church is built upon Peter
16:37 they've disqualified themselves
16:39 from being the spouse of Christ.
16:46 Because a dead church is built upon a dead man,
16:51 but the living church is built upon a living Christ
16:57 and Christ is my savior, Christ is my redeemer,
17:01 Christ is my deliverer,
17:03 and Christ is going to resurrect me
17:05 one day from the grave.
17:08 It is vain to pray for the dead,
17:12 because the dead are no longer in a state
17:16 where they can be saved.
17:18 If you want to be saved, you get,
17:20 better get saved while you still can breathe,
17:24 because once you've died,
17:26 your fate is sealed for time and eternity.
17:32 I had an old man come to me once,
17:36 came to my meetings,
17:37 invited me to his home they called him Pops.
17:41 Met his wife later on met his children.
17:44 All this was in the little town of parks on the outer Barcoo
17:48 where the churches are few in Australia.
17:52 Pops died, they asked me to burry him.
17:57 I said, yes, it's my sad privilege.
18:00 The family members came to me
18:03 with ones of pound notes.
18:09 Thousands of pounds take this.
18:11 We want you to pray for Pops to get him out of purgatory.
18:16 I said, no, you're not talking to a Catholic priest.
18:20 Pops is safe in the arms of God
18:23 because he died with his faith in Christ
18:25 and he's going to be raised in the resurrection,
18:28 this idea of praying for the dead
18:31 and charging people is the abomination of desolation.
18:36 Most ungodly most wicked,
18:41 worse than Wall Street.
18:43 That's saying something.
18:46 Now number 12
18:49 the voice of prophecy.
18:52 Come over here to Daniel 7,
18:55 the voice of prophecy.
18:58 We're not referring
18:59 to the great radio program either.
19:01 Daniel 7:7, this is a prophecy
19:06 you can get one of my tapes on this and see it.
19:08 "After this I saw in the night visions,
19:10 and behold, a fourth beast,
19:12 dreadful and terrible, exceedingly strong.
19:14 It had huge iron teeth;
19:15 it was devouring, breaking in pieces,
19:17 and trampling the residue with its feet.
19:19 It was different from all the beasts
19:21 that were before it, and it had ten horns."
19:24 Verse 8, "I consider the horns, and there was another horn,
19:27 a little one, coming up among them,
19:29 before three of the first horns
19:31 were plucked out by the roots.
19:33 And there, in this horn,
19:34 were eyes like the eyes of a man,
19:36 and a mouth speaking pompous words."
19:38 This is the antichrist that is conceited
19:42 by Catholics and Protestants.
19:44 Look at verse 24 and 25,
19:48 "The ten horns are ten kings
19:50 who shall arise from this kingdom.
19:51 And another shall rise after them,
19:53 He shall be different from the first ones,
19:55 and shall subdue three kings.
19:57 He shall speak pompous words against the most high,
20:01 shall persecute the saints of the most high,
20:04 and shall intend to change times and laws.
20:07 Then the saints shall be given into his hand
20:09 for a time and times and half a time."
20:12 And we cannot go into that.
20:14 Except to say that the dragon beast,
20:18 every commentator agrees, Roman Catholics, Jews,
20:21 everybody Protestant,
20:23 that is pagan Rome.
20:24 And the ten horns are symbolic
20:28 of the breakup of the Roman Empire into the kingdoms
20:31 and the states of Europe.
20:33 And the antichrist arises upon the ruins
20:39 of the Roman Empire in Europe.
20:46 Now who is he?
20:48 Now most people
20:50 know nothing about this subject.
20:55 We've had some of the biggest audiences in the world,
20:58 hear these great topics.
21:02 More recently in the biggest stadium
21:05 in Latin America,
21:06 when I spoke on this subject.
21:08 Now I'll read to you the great church leaders,
21:11 Thomas Cranmer Archbishop of Canterbury, England.
21:15 He said, "As for the Pope,
21:17 I refuse him as Christ's enemy and Antichrist."
21:22 He wrote the book of Come and Pray.
21:25 See also the preference of the King James Version
21:28 where the papacy is called the man of sin.
21:31 John Knox who raised up the Presbyterian judge said,
21:35 "Yeah, we doubt not to prove the kingdom of the Pope
21:37 to be the kingdom and power Antichrist."
21:40 John Wesley in his book,
21:42 Antichrist and his Ten Kingdoms,
21:44 "The Pope is in an emphatic sense the Man of Sin."
21:49 Charles Spurgeon the greatest preachers since Paul, some say.
21:55 "Then the world changed its tactics,
21:58 it became nominally Christian,
22:02 and Antichrist came forth in all its blasphemous glory.
22:06 The Pope of Rome put on the triple crown,
22:09 and called himself the Vicar of Christ.
22:12 Then came in the abomination of the worship of saints,
22:15 angels, images, and pictures,
22:16 then came the mass, and I know not what,
22:20 of detestable error."
22:25 Ellen White the Adventist prophet said this,
22:29 "The papacy is just what prophecy
22:31 declared that she would be,
22:33 the apostasy of the latter times...
22:36 it is prepared for two classes of mankind,
22:38 embracing nearly the whole world
22:40 those who would be saved by their merits,
22:42 and those who would be saved in their sins.
22:46 God's word has given warning of the impending danger,
22:49 let this be unheeded,
22:51 and the Protestant world will learn
22:53 what the purposes of Rome really are,
22:57 only when it is too late to escape the snare.
23:00 She is silently growing in power
23:04 she is piling up her lofty
23:06 and massive structures in the secret recesses
23:10 of which her former persecutions will be repeated."
23:17 Now the question is concerning
23:19 Ellen White and this statement, was she wrong?
23:25 Some would like to think she was wrong,
23:27 because of political correctness
23:30 where today we're not allowed to preach the truth.
23:35 And was she wrong?
23:37 She reflected the thinking of Protestant Bible scholars,
23:41 she was not politically correct.
23:45 She also said that
23:46 the majority of God's true children
23:48 were found in churches beyond her own.
23:52 Especially the Catholic Church
23:54 and she said God was going to bring them out.
23:57 She loved Catholics as we do,
24:00 but was opposed to the papal system.
24:08 Now we come to a conclusion and a resolution,
24:14 therefore
24:18 we will love our Catholic brothers and sisters.
24:22 There'll be no hate speech, and no bigotry.
24:27 We will seek their personal friendship.
24:32 We will do all in our power to help them.
24:37 We will share Christ and God's word with them,
24:41 and we will share with them the true gospel of Christ.
24:46 But we will not return to Rome
24:52 until Rome returns to Christ,
24:55 and the holy Bible,
24:58 amen, amen, amen.
25:03 And there was a great Roman Catholic scholar,
25:05 his name was John Huss who lived in Bohemia.
25:10 And John Huss because of his faith
25:12 was burnt by the Church of Rome at the stake,
25:15 they brunt in their history
25:17 hundreds of thousands even millions,
25:19 of Roman Catholics, Protestants, and Jews.
25:23 Go and get your encyclopedia,
25:27 they burnt him at the stake
25:29 but before they burn him at the stake,
25:31 John Huss sent back this message
25:34 to the Bohemian Protestants.
25:38 All Roman Catholics are standing up for God,
25:43 he said believe the truth,
25:48 love the truth, live the truth,
25:53 therefore I say to the television audience
25:55 and to you,
25:57 believe the truth,
26:00 love the truth, live the truth,
26:04 so help us God.
26:07 Amen.
26:15 We should never say something is impossible
26:18 because Jesus said,
26:20 with God all things are possible.
26:23 It seems impossible to think that a group of Americans
26:28 and Australians could come here to Castro's communist Cuba
26:33 and preach the gospel.
26:35 We're here with the permission of the Cuban Government.
26:38 We've got special visas so we can preach here.
26:43 I've had the privilege
26:44 of preaching in the most difficult places,
26:46 Moscow all across Russia, all around Ukraine,
26:50 dangerous places in Africa,
26:53 but this is one of the biggest miracles of all,
26:56 here we are,
26:57 the Carter Report team, just a little team.
27:01 But we're here by the grace of God,
27:04 because with God all things are possible.
27:08 But God works through people,
27:10 He's working, glory be to God,
27:13 we believe through us,
27:15 but he is also working my friend,
27:17 through you
27:19 because of your prayers and your support, your gifts.
27:23 These people many of them are hearing
27:26 the true gospel of Christ for the first time.
27:29 So my heart is full of thanks to God and to you today.
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27:48 Let's get a fire going in this country.
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