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00:01 I'm John Carter in Moscow...
00:02 I'm now in Kiev, the capital of Ukraine. 00:04 I'm John Carter in Petra... 00:06 Reporting from India... 00:08 In Columbia... 00:09 I'm John Carter 00:11 Today, in the Carter Report we have the man 00:13 who is called the Adventist Maverick. 00:16 He's a historian, a philosopher, 00:18 a university professor, and a theologian. 00:21 His 50 books have influenced millions. 00:24 His name is George Knight. 00:32 Hello Friend, I'm John Carter, 00:35 welcome today to the Carter Report. 00:38 We have with us today 00:40 the terrific guest Dr.George Knight. 00:44 Dr. George Knight has been called in this book 00:48 at least and on other occasions, 00:51 an Adventist Maverick. 00:54 Like any good leader 00:57 Dr. George is a thinker and can be quite provocative. 01:04 He's not a yes man 01:05 and he doesn't go with the crowd. 01:08 And today we're going to talk about 01:09 some amazing things. 01:11 We're going to talk about the mission of the church, 01:14 the nature of the church, and where the church is going. 01:18 So my, friends, welcome today to the Carter Report. 01:25 Time, it takes only a minute to have eternal life. 01:29 How can you get saved in a minute? 01:30 It's simple. 01:32 First, believe that Jesus was the Son of God. 01:34 Second, accept His free gift of eternal life 01:37 and then you're saved. 01:39 It's not hard. 01:41 It doesn't take any time. 01:42 You can be saved in a minute right now. 01:45 Pray with me, "Lord God, I realize that I am a sinner. 01:49 My sin has separated me from You. 01:52 I accept that Your Son Jesus Christ died for me. 01:55 I ask Jesus into my heart." 01:57 If you prayed this prayer, you are saved. 02:00 The next thing to do is, tell someone. 02:02 Fellowship with other followers of Jesus, get baptized, 02:07 read your Bible, and pray. 02:09 Choices, we make them every day, 02:11 all day. 02:13 The most important choice you'll make in your life 02:15 is whether to choose eternal life 02:17 or let it pass you by. 02:19 If you would like more information 02:20 about your new life, 02:22 call the number and visit our website. 02:26 Dr. Knight, we are honored to have you with us here today 02:29 at the Carter Report. 02:31 It's my pleasure to be here. 02:33 We feel privileged to have you with us. 02:36 And tell me this, 02:38 why does some people call you apparently 02:41 the authors of this book? 02:44 Why does some people call you a maverick? 02:48 Oh, I'm not sure 02:49 because I don't see myself that way, 02:51 but I'll tell you one thing, 02:54 I supposes because I don't belong to any club. 02:57 When I became a Christian, 02:59 I decided that I would follow the biblical evidence 03:03 or avert went 03:04 and I would do my best to teach it both publicly 03:08 and privately for what it said. 03:12 And so I'd imagine 03:14 you would believe in the Protestant principle 03:17 of Sola scriptura? 03:19 Yes, I do. 03:20 Of course with that, you know, 03:22 you know that's not all the knowledge we have, 03:24 but the scripture provides the framework 03:27 for all of our knowledge is. 03:29 And then, of course, we engage it with our mind, 03:32 and so Sola scriptura probably Prima 03:35 scriptura a little more accurate. 03:38 How did you become a Christian? 03:40 Have you always been a Christian? 03:42 Well, no. 03:43 I was raised as an agnostic. 03:45 I like to tell people I never had enough faith 03:47 to be an atheist. 03:50 I mean just think about it, John. 03:52 I mean, they tried to teach me in high school 03:55 that all this stuff just came from nothing by accident, 03:59 you know, it takes a lot of faith. 04:00 Even though I was raised agnostic, 04:02 I wasn't stupid. 04:03 So I just said, Agnostic and Gnosis, 04:08 Gnostic means knowledge 04:10 and A before it means lack of no knowledge. 04:14 So I'm just happy to... 04:16 I'm not going to be a Christian because my dad said that 04:20 all Christians are hypocrites. 04:22 So I was just nothing. 04:24 So how did you become a Christian? 04:26 Well, most of my trouble 04:28 when I was young all started out with ladies. 04:32 And I met a lady who is a Christian. 04:35 And she wanted me to go to church with her. 04:38 Well, you know, I wanted to be with her, 04:40 I was living on a ship at the time, 04:42 studying to be a merchant marine officer, 04:44 I was one of the government Merchant Marine Academies. 04:47 And I went home on leave, and I met this young lady. 04:51 And unlike most of them she was a church goer. 04:54 So I said, "Sure, I'll go with you." 04:56 And then I had to find out that she went on the wrong day. 05:00 I mean she went on Saturday. 05:03 And so I went on Saturday 05:05 when the next time I was on leave 05:07 and that's pretty much how I got started. 05:11 How did she get you started or going to church? 05:13 What was that experience like? 05:15 Well, it was interesting. 05:19 I wasn't quite sure about these people, 05:21 for one thing they didn't have a church building at the time 05:24 and they were happening to be meeting in my dance hall, 05:27 which didn't set too well. 05:29 That should have made you feel good though. 05:31 Yeah. Yeah. 05:34 And so I started to go 05:37 and several strange things happened. 05:39 I remember once at the time, when we were teenagers, 05:44 late teens. 05:45 And this lady came around, 05:48 and this was during the Sabbath school, 05:51 and she pointed to each one of the young people, 05:54 and she said, "You better lay awake at night. 05:57 And remember every sin that you've ever committed 06:01 because if you miss one, 06:04 you're going to go to the hot place." 06:05 Goodness. Wow. 06:07 I walked out of there and I said, 06:08 "These people are nuts." 06:10 Yeah. 06:11 So my first impressions of church were not good. 06:15 And of course my dad was very aggressive agnostic. 06:20 I'm the oldest of four children. 06:21 At the age of 19 I became a Christian. 06:25 All three of my siblings followed me into Christianity, 06:29 and my dad considers that... 06:31 He's passed away now. 06:33 He considers that his greatest failure. 06:36 We gave up the truth. 06:38 And so here you're in a church that is hardly woman fuzzy. 06:46 What came next? 06:47 You became a Christian. 06:48 Obviously you had a lot of problems 06:50 becoming a Christian. 06:51 Yes, I did. 06:52 And the church was part of the problem? 06:54 The church was... 06:55 But I never did join that church. 06:57 I wonder why? 06:58 I just didn't like them. 06:59 I mean, a church ought to be a place 07:01 where people care about you. 07:04 They had to put their arms around you. 07:07 They ought to be happy. 07:08 You know, some churches, John, looked like the city morgue. 07:10 Yeah, I have a sermon called, 07:13 "It's not a sin to smile on Sabbath. 07:15 It's not a sin to smile in church." 07:19 So I never did join that church. 07:22 And because my wife, she wasn't an Adventist, 07:25 but she kept Sabbath, and she didn't eat pork. 07:30 And my dad was a pork salesman. 07:32 It was all very interesting. 07:33 Goodness. 07:35 But we moved up to northern California 07:38 and I went to a series of evangelistic meetings. 07:42 And I heard how the Bible... 07:44 Who was the preacher? 07:46 Ralph Larsen. 07:47 And I heard how the Bible holds together. 07:50 I got a grasp of the prophecies. 07:52 And I saw where Jesus fit into the whole thing. 07:55 And I decided that I wanted to be baptized. 07:59 So you really became a Christian 08:01 through public evangelism? 08:03 That's right. 08:04 To a certain extent anyhow? That's right. 08:06 And you got some evidence, 08:07 why you could intellectually believe in God? 08:10 Well, you see I came out of the, 08:12 you know, I was a teenager in high school 08:15 or early college during the 1950s. 08:18 And hard proof was really important back in those days. 08:21 It should be today too. 08:22 Yeah, so creationism, the prophetic scheme, 08:26 something I could tie together with history, 08:28 external reality outside the Bible was important for me. 08:32 And that's really helped me cross the line. 08:35 Do you believe that when this happened to you, 08:38 you actually found Christ? 08:40 Well, I would like to say 08:41 that my conversion 08:44 was a two step process. 08:49 Now I knew who Christ was, 08:51 but I wouldn't want to say I had a relationship with Him. 08:54 You wrote a book once and I've read it. 08:56 It's an excellent book 08:58 and I recommend it to everybody watching. 09:03 Is it a book or a sermon, 09:04 I've got to think hard on this one, 09:06 "I Used To Be Perfect." 09:08 That's it. 09:09 "I Used To Be Perfect." 09:10 That was of series of sermons 09:12 I preach to the General Conference in 1992. 09:15 And the administrator said, "This needs to be published." 09:21 And so I put the stuff together and... 09:23 How did you get over being so perfect? 09:26 Not easily. 09:28 I'll tell you how I got there, John. 09:30 Yeah, tell me. 09:31 I looked around at the Adventists, 09:33 I looked around at the other Christians 09:34 around there, 09:36 and I looked at you preachers and I said, 09:38 "None of you guys are perfect." 09:40 And I know why. 09:41 Yeah. You hadn't tried hard enough. 09:44 So by that time I was working on structural steel out 09:47 over San Francisco Bay. 09:48 What were you doing there? 09:50 I was a structural steel painter. 09:52 And so I was up in the rigging one day, 09:55 about three months after I was baptized, 09:58 and realizing what a mess the rest of you people were. 10:01 I promised God out loud 10:05 that I would be the first 10:07 perfectly sinless Christian since Jesus. 10:11 Well done. 10:12 And I knew I could do it 10:14 'cause I was a young man of tremendous energy... 10:17 And confidence. 10:18 See, yeah, and you guys, I know what your problem was. 10:20 You hadn't tried hard enough. 10:22 Goodness. 10:23 That's how I came to know you were messed up. 10:25 Yeah. 10:26 And there was about two months after that that I felt a call 10:29 to the ministry and attended the Pacific Union College, 10:35 a little college in Northern California. 10:38 Two years later, I had a call to be associate pastor 10:41 in the San Francisco Central Church 10:44 and would have stayed. 10:46 The conference president said, well, 10:48 I only got two years of education 10:49 when you need more than four. 10:51 So I was going to stay and then all of a sudden 10:53 they're going to have a citywide crusade. 10:57 And they're going to have me be the singing evangelist. 10:59 So you sing too. 11:00 No, I can't sing. 11:02 No. So I went back to college... 11:04 What? To learn to sing? 11:05 What's that? To learn to sing? 11:07 No. No. 11:08 No, I'm a failure. I'm tuned off. 11:10 Yeah. 11:11 And you didn't talk back in those days. 11:13 No. 11:14 So I figured the best way to get out 11:16 of being a singing evangelist 11:17 when you can't sing in a citywide crusade 11:19 is to go back to college. 11:21 But I felt the Lord was going to come quick. 11:23 So I did the next two years in one year 11:26 and then got out of the ministry. 11:28 And I went to Texas. 11:31 And so how was your perfectionism going 11:35 during this time? 11:37 What sort of progress were you making 11:39 in becoming very perfect? 11:41 I went through stages I thought I was... 11:43 You were getting pretty perfect. 11:44 I thought I was pretty good. Pretty perfect. 11:48 Yeah. Yeah. 11:49 I was kind of difficult to live with though. 11:51 Yeah. Yeah. You know... 11:53 I wonder why? 11:54 Well, it's obvious. 11:56 If you're perfect everybody else is imperfect, 11:58 most definitely. 12:00 So yeah, it was pretty bad. 12:03 And finally, I came to a day of reckoning. 12:07 I can still remember the day, it was March, 12:11 I can't remember the exact date, 12:12 but it was March 1969. 12:16 I had been a Christian for well... 12:20 And an Adventist. I am an Adventist. 12:22 I wouldn't say I was a Christian I know, 12:24 but I was a pastor, okay? 12:25 You were a pastor? 12:27 Oh, I was a pastor Progressing towards perfection? 12:29 I have three degrees in Adventist theology 12:31 and Christian theology. 12:32 And I was doing great I thought. 12:36 And I was pastor of a congregation 12:39 down in Galveston in Texas, Gulf Coast. 12:42 And one day I woke up and said, "You know, 12:44 I'm just as messed up as I used to be." 12:48 I have this theory that there's two kinds of sins, 12:52 nasty sins and vegetarian sins. 12:56 Oh. Yeah. 12:58 You know, what the nasty... I'd left off the nasty one. 12:59 Yes, yes. 13:00 I think we all know what the nasty ones are. 13:02 You know, thou shalt not be playing around 13:04 with other ladies, keep your money, 13:06 keep your hands off people's money, 13:08 don't bump them off. 13:10 But the vegetarian sin 13:12 is you're just better than other people. 13:17 Describe to me the vegetarian sin? 13:19 Why do you call it a vegetarian sin? 13:22 Well, because people all over in churches practice it. 13:26 You know, they've given up the nasty stuff 13:28 and now they're in church 13:29 and they think they're better than other people, 13:31 you know. 13:32 And most of them are vegetarians? 13:34 Well, I don't know if they're vegetarians or not. 13:37 But what I mean is, 13:40 you know, we could call the sin of the Pharisee, 13:42 it's the sin of goodness. 13:44 I'm better than you. 13:45 I pay tithe, I do this, I do that. 13:47 And so I was just, you know, 13:49 'cause the center of all sin is pride. 13:52 Of course. 13:53 It's love of yourself and loving yourself 13:57 in a prideful way. 13:58 And if I love myself more than God, 14:00 I can abuse His name, I can abuse His day. 14:04 And if I love myself more than you 14:06 and I'm big enough, I'll take your stuff. 14:09 So pride and self centeredness is at the very core. 14:14 And I have found out that I had moved 14:17 from being a secular person 14:20 to being a very sick church member. 14:24 See, I don't want to say Christian. 14:26 No. No, because... 14:28 A religionist. 14:29 Yeah, somebody that goes to church 14:32 and maybe even preaches isn't necessarily a Christian. 14:38 And so I came to a crisis point 14:41 and I remember taking out my wallet, 14:44 you know, sitting at my desk in March of 1969, 14:48 and getting out my ministerial credential, 14:51 and sending it to my conference administrator, 14:54 resigning from the Seventh-day Adventist ministry, 14:58 going to leave Christianity, go back to my happy hedonism. 15:04 And with that I went off 15:06 to study philosophy for six years. 15:09 And... 15:10 Where did you do this, in Houston, isn't it? 15:11 University of Houston. 15:13 Tell me about this experience? 15:15 Well, it was a good experience for me 15:18 because I was still looking for the answer. 15:20 So philosophy for six years? 15:22 Well, yeah. 15:23 That's a long time. 15:25 I was pretty interested in a philosophy of education 15:26 because I wanted to get a job. 15:28 Of course. 15:30 So, but at the end of six years I discovered that philosophy 15:34 did not hold the answer and that came as a shock to me. 15:40 And my major professor was an atheist, 15:44 he was an extensionist, 15:47 and every day in class he smashed religion. 15:51 Well, if an agnostic... 15:53 Every day? 15:54 Yeah, for backslidden agnostic type 15:57 pastor could have said amen. 15:58 I would have said amen. 16:00 But then one day, I am in his office. 16:02 You were doing a doctorate? 16:03 Yes. Yes. 16:04 And he said to me, George, he says if I wasn't a Jew, 16:08 I'd be a nobody. 16:09 Said, "What do you mean, Josh, you don't even like religion." 16:14 And he said, "You don't understand, 16:16 I belong to the community." 16:19 I'm not just one of those millions of people out there. 16:22 I belong to the Jewish community. 16:24 They sent me all over the world as a speaker to hold seminars. 16:29 And I'm saying to myself, "Oh my, 16:30 this guy could be a Baptist. 16:32 He could be a Catholic. 16:34 He could be an Adventist." 16:35 I mean, just because he's a Jew... 16:37 And suddenly, it all came together. 16:41 In any religious organization there are true believers 16:45 and there are people that that is their social location, 16:49 that's where they were born. 16:50 And with that another... 16:52 See I'd already come to a conclusion that philosophy 16:55 was bankrupt in terms of real answers. 16:57 Which it is. 16:58 Yeah, and now Josh helped me see 17:02 what I should have seen. 17:05 In Matthew 13, that the good fish 17:08 and the bad fish are all swimming around 17:10 in the pond until they eschaton, 17:11 until Jesus comes again. 17:14 And that Jesus had told us 17:16 that church is going to have a lot of social Christians 17:21 mixed in with believers. 17:24 I should say social church members 17:27 mixed in with believing Christian church members. 17:30 And then a third thing happened, 17:33 a man got invited to my house and don't tell me how, 17:37 but I never wanted to see him again. 17:40 He was my first Bible teacher at Pacific Union College. 17:44 So you knew him. You already sat in his class. 17:46 I knew him. He was my favorite teacher. 17:49 You did a degree with him in theology. 17:52 Yeah, I did my first degree, my bachelor's degree. 17:55 That was a big help, wasn't it? 17:56 Yeah. Yeah. 17:57 Well, he got invited to my house, 17:59 spent the whole day with me, knew my problem, 18:01 never said one word. 18:05 He just exuded the sweet love of Jesus. 18:08 And when he left, 18:09 I told my wife he has what I need. 18:13 I met Jesus that day in Robert Olson. 18:18 And I've never turned back. 18:21 So 14 years after I got baptized 18:26 into the Seventh-day Adventist church. 18:30 I became a Christian. 18:32 That's my conversion story. 18:34 Had you been reading your Bible? 18:36 No. 18:37 For six years I didn't read my Bible or pray. 18:41 What about when you were a pastor? 18:42 Did you read your Bible? 18:44 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I read somewhere 18:46 you're supposed to spend a thoughtful hour 18:47 every day in the life of Christ. 18:50 Well, I didn't quite make an hour, 18:52 but, you know, I read it. 18:53 Oh, boy, I'm going to get my 30 minutes 18:55 and my 15 minute... 18:56 I'm going to do my thing 18:58 and I could read it through once a year 18:59 and I could do everything. 19:01 And I had a lot of it memorized. 19:03 I mean, I was good at that kind of stuff. 19:06 I would have made a wonderful Pharisee back in the old days. 19:08 So you were searching the scriptures? 19:10 Well, I was searching the scriptures, 19:11 but I'm not quite sure I had the right spirit. 19:14 So from the Olson experience where did you go? 19:19 How did you saw a testimony for Christ in this man? 19:25 Or how did you find the gospel from there? 19:28 Well, I'll tell you the truth. 19:31 I had lectured on the gospel without experiencing it. 19:36 Can you identify with some of the stuff? 19:38 Of course. 19:39 Yeah, I mean, I was teaching other people 19:41 the theory of salvation. 19:44 So I mean, I know all about justification, 19:46 sanctification... 19:48 So you knew this. 19:49 Yes, I knew it. 19:52 But I hadn't experienced a personal relationship 19:54 with Jesus Christ. 19:55 So you hadn't had a revelation like Paul had it? 19:58 No, I hadn't met Christ on the road to Damascus. 20:02 I just had the Torah. 20:04 But you were a super religionist. 20:07 Oh man, I was good at it. 20:08 I could imagine. 20:12 But I was not the kind of guy you'd want to live with. 20:16 Are you not too hard on yourself? 20:18 No, I don't think so. 20:19 So you're pretty hard on people because you were critical? 20:22 I was very critical. 20:24 Well, of course if... 20:25 And I had all the proof. 20:27 You know, what I mean by proof? 20:29 Now, you've preached a famous sermon. 20:32 I don't think they would publish 20:34 a book on this one. 20:35 Oh, I bet, I think, I know what you're going to say 20:37 and I bet you, I could publish this book on. 20:39 Let me say it. 20:41 You preached a sermon on 20:43 why I don't like Seventh-day Adventists. 20:47 Is that the book, 20:48 a potential book you're thinking of? 20:50 Why I don't like Adventists. 20:51 Never put the Seventh-day in there. 20:53 Yeah, but I had a message. 20:57 I love Christians. 20:59 And if they were only Adventists, 21:02 I could say same thing about Baptists, Catholics, 21:04 Methodists. 21:06 If they only have a denomination or affiliation, 21:09 but no Jesus Christ, I won't lose. 21:13 And so, yeah, I happen to love Christian Adventist 21:19 and Christian whatever denomination... 21:21 Sure. 21:23 Okay? 21:24 But all they've got is their pedigree, 21:27 and they don't have Jesus... 21:28 Then they are Pharisees, harsh and hard. 21:31 That's right. That's right. 21:33 Is it not true that so many people 21:35 are turned away from Christ because of "the church?" 21:41 Yes. Yes. 21:43 Harshness, coldness. 21:44 Yes. 21:46 George, I've been to Russia on many occasions, 21:48 and 49 times actually. 21:52 And we would start up churches. 21:54 And the reason we did this was a young preacher said, 21:58 "We've got to start up new churches." 22:00 I'm going to whisper this, he said, 22:03 "So the new members are not picked to death." 22:07 I can understand that. 22:09 He said, "If they go to an old church, 22:11 the odds are, they're going to be picked to death." 22:16 You've got to do this, you got to do this, 22:17 you got to do, do, do, cock a doodle do. 22:20 And you're not doing enough. 22:22 You know, this is a problem among 22:25 most conservative denominations. 22:27 Old churches, not just Adventists. 22:30 And, you know, Nietzsche, 22:32 the great atheistic philosopher once said, 22:35 "The best argument against Christianity is Christians." 22:39 Well, I've paraphrased it. 22:41 The best argument against Adventism is Adventists. 22:43 No, I could say Baptist is Baptist, 22:45 Catholic is Catholic, you know. 22:46 And you were so tactful. 22:48 It just happens, that's what I am. 22:49 Yeah. Yeah. 22:51 You know, I can vouch for that. 22:55 That's one reason I never joined 22:57 that first church. 22:58 I won't even tell you where it is. 23:00 Well, there is plenty like that I'm afraid. 23:02 That's right. 23:03 It might have been a church anyway down the road anyway. 23:05 I'm going to tell you, John, 23:06 that the church I belong to now is the one... 23:10 We love each other. 23:12 I preached there year ago January on worship. 23:15 You know, usually we preached the vertical, 23:17 I preached on the horizontal. 23:19 What is supposed to happen to you during worship? 23:24 And I told people very frankly, 23:27 you know, when I first came here, 23:29 I was offended because you stand here 23:31 in the sanctuary and you talk for half an hour. 23:35 And after a while I said, "No..." 23:37 That's good. 23:39 These people have met Jesus here 23:41 and they're sharing His love 23:44 in the sanctuary for half an hour, 23:46 they don't want to go home. 23:48 That's what worship is all about, 23:50 it's not just up there, 23:52 it's... 23:53 Tell me this because we've got lots of folks 23:56 watching around the world. 23:58 And we're glad you've joined us today. 24:01 And our guest in Dr. George Knight. 24:04 Tell me in just a few words, the heart of it, 24:08 what is Christianity? 24:10 What is it to become a Christian? 24:11 Oh, to become a Christian is to fall in love with Jesus. 24:17 And why do I love Jesus 24:18 because He gave everything for me. 24:21 God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son 24:23 that whosoever believeth in Him might have everlasting life. 24:28 Jesus, you know, the gospel, 24:31 we short circuit the gospel sometimes. 24:35 Sometimes I preach on the gospel 24:36 in the Book of Revelation. 24:38 The gospel in the Book of Revelation... 24:40 You ask somebody what the gospel is. 24:42 They'll say, "Oh, saved by grace." 24:45 They probably mean justified by grace. 24:46 Yes. 24:48 Well, that Jesus died for me 24:51 and that's what I wanted to say. 24:53 I got ahead of myself that Jesus died for me. 24:56 Is that good news? 24:58 Well, not really. 24:59 What good's a dead Savior. 25:01 So over in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Paul says, 25:04 "I want to tell you about the gospel 25:06 that Jesus died for us..." 25:08 "And He was raised on the third day." 25:09 "Raised on the third day..." 25:10 "According to the scriptures." 25:12 But, you know, that's not the whole Bible. 25:14 I mean, that happened 2,000 years ago 25:18 and babies are still dying of cancer, 25:21 people are still committing wars 25:22 and all kinds of atrocities, 25:24 there's more to the gospel than that. 25:27 So I call the gospel according to the Book of Revelation, 25:30 that is Jesus is coming again to rescue us from this mess. 25:35 And so the gospel is many faceted. 25:38 But three things for sure, Jesus died, 25:42 He resurrected because He resurrected, 25:45 I'm going to resurrect if I believe in Him, 25:47 and have relationship with Him, and number three, 25:50 He's coming again to take me out of this mess. 25:54 Good news indeed. 25:55 From this experience, 25:57 from the great awakening where did you go? 26:00 Well, actually I wanted to go, work for the church, 26:07 and I wanted to do something that I wanted to do. 26:11 You know, I always want to teach in Union University 26:13 and stuff like that, 26:14 and I thought all having a doctorate, 26:16 ah, that's wonderful. 26:17 Then I found out and I got there 26:19 and I found out that all those people 26:20 had problems just like everybody else's. 26:21 So I wanted to go teach up on a two teacher 26:23 school up in the mountains. 26:27 On what mountains? 26:29 Over Rockies, you know, Cascades there, any place, 26:34 but I just wanted to be with young people 26:37 and work with them. 26:39 I happen to like young people, 26:42 you know, the generation thing is that, 26:46 you know, you work with older people, 26:47 sometimes it's like they've got cement poured in their head. 26:52 Not all of them, but what young people 26:54 they're still quite malleable. 26:55 And I've always, that's what I want to know 26:57 and have a ministry, teaching just small classrooms 27:00 of young people... 27:01 Up in the mountains? 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