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00:01 I'm John Carter in Moscow...
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00:04 I'm John Carter in Petra...
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00:09 I'm John Carter
00:11 Today, in the Carter Report we have the man
00:13 who is called the Adventist Maverick.
00:16 He's a historian, a philosopher,
00:18 a university professor, and a theologian.
00:21 His 50 books have influenced millions.
00:24 His name is George Knight.
00:32 Hello Friend, I'm John Carter,
00:35 welcome today to the Carter Report.
00:38 We have with us today
00:40 the terrific guest Dr.George Knight.
00:44 Dr. George Knight has been called in this book
00:48 at least and on other occasions,
00:51 an Adventist Maverick.
00:54 Like any good leader
00:57 Dr. George is a thinker and can be quite provocative.
01:04 He's not a yes man
01:05 and he doesn't go with the crowd.
01:08 And today we're going to talk about
01:09 some amazing things.
01:11 We're going to talk about the mission of the church,
01:14 the nature of the church, and where the church is going.
01:18 So my, friends, welcome today to the Carter Report.
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02:26 Dr. Knight, we are honored to have you with us here today
02:29 at the Carter Report.
02:31 It's my pleasure to be here.
02:33 We feel privileged to have you with us.
02:36 And tell me this,
02:38 why does some people call you apparently
02:41 the authors of this book?
02:44 Why does some people call you a maverick?
02:48 Oh, I'm not sure
02:49 because I don't see myself that way,
02:51 but I'll tell you one thing,
02:54 I supposes because I don't belong to any club.
02:57 When I became a Christian,
02:59 I decided that I would follow the biblical evidence
03:03 or avert went
03:04 and I would do my best to teach it both publicly
03:08 and privately for what it said.
03:12 And so I'd imagine
03:14 you would believe in the Protestant principle
03:17 of Sola scriptura?
03:19 Yes, I do.
03:20 Of course with that, you know,
03:22 you know that's not all the knowledge we have,
03:24 but the scripture provides the framework
03:27 for all of our knowledge is.
03:29 And then, of course, we engage it with our mind,
03:32 and so Sola scriptura probably Prima
03:35 scriptura a little more accurate.
03:38 How did you become a Christian?
03:40 Have you always been a Christian?
03:42 Well, no.
03:43 I was raised as an agnostic.
03:45 I like to tell people I never had enough faith
03:47 to be an atheist.
03:50 I mean just think about it, John.
03:52 I mean, they tried to teach me in high school
03:55 that all this stuff just came from nothing by accident,
03:59 you know, it takes a lot of faith.
04:00 Even though I was raised agnostic,
04:02 I wasn't stupid.
04:03 So I just said, Agnostic and Gnosis,
04:08 Gnostic means knowledge
04:10 and A before it means lack of no knowledge.
04:14 So I'm just happy to...
04:16 I'm not going to be a Christian because my dad said that
04:20 all Christians are hypocrites.
04:22 So I was just nothing.
04:24 So how did you become a Christian?
04:26 Well, most of my trouble
04:28 when I was young all started out with ladies.
04:32 And I met a lady who is a Christian.
04:35 And she wanted me to go to church with her.
04:38 Well, you know, I wanted to be with her,
04:40 I was living on a ship at the time,
04:42 studying to be a merchant marine officer,
04:44 I was one of the government Merchant Marine Academies.
04:47 And I went home on leave, and I met this young lady.
04:51 And unlike most of them she was a church goer.
04:54 So I said, "Sure, I'll go with you."
04:56 And then I had to find out that she went on the wrong day.
05:00 I mean she went on Saturday.
05:03 And so I went on Saturday
05:05 when the next time I was on leave
05:07 and that's pretty much how I got started.
05:11 How did she get you started or going to church?
05:13 What was that experience like?
05:15 Well, it was interesting.
05:19 I wasn't quite sure about these people,
05:21 for one thing they didn't have a church building at the time
05:24 and they were happening to be meeting in my dance hall,
05:27 which didn't set too well.
05:29 That should have made you feel good though.
05:31 Yeah. Yeah.
05:34 And so I started to go
05:37 and several strange things happened.
05:39 I remember once at the time, when we were teenagers,
05:44 late teens.
05:45 And this lady came around,
05:48 and this was during the Sabbath school,
05:51 and she pointed to each one of the young people,
05:54 and she said, "You better lay awake at night.
05:57 And remember every sin that you've ever committed
06:01 because if you miss one,
06:04 you're going to go to the hot place."
06:05 Goodness. Wow.
06:07 I walked out of there and I said,
06:08 "These people are nuts."
06:10 Yeah.
06:11 So my first impressions of church were not good.
06:15 And of course my dad was very aggressive agnostic.
06:20 I'm the oldest of four children.
06:21 At the age of 19 I became a Christian.
06:25 All three of my siblings followed me into Christianity,
06:29 and my dad considers that...
06:31 He's passed away now.
06:33 He considers that his greatest failure.
06:36 We gave up the truth.
06:38 And so here you're in a church that is hardly woman fuzzy.
06:46 What came next?
06:47 You became a Christian.
06:48 Obviously you had a lot of problems
06:50 becoming a Christian.
06:51 Yes, I did.
06:52 And the church was part of the problem?
06:54 The church was...
06:55 But I never did join that church.
06:57 I wonder why?
06:58 I just didn't like them.
06:59 I mean, a church ought to be a place
07:01 where people care about you.
07:04 They had to put their arms around you.
07:07 They ought to be happy.
07:08 You know, some churches, John, looked like the city morgue.
07:10 Yeah, I have a sermon called,
07:13 "It's not a sin to smile on Sabbath.
07:15 It's not a sin to smile in church."
07:19 So I never did join that church.
07:22 And because my wife, she wasn't an Adventist,
07:25 but she kept Sabbath, and she didn't eat pork.
07:30 And my dad was a pork salesman.
07:32 It was all very interesting.
07:33 Goodness.
07:35 But we moved up to northern California
07:38 and I went to a series of evangelistic meetings.
07:42 And I heard how the Bible...
07:44 Who was the preacher?
07:46 Ralph Larsen.
07:47 And I heard how the Bible holds together.
07:50 I got a grasp of the prophecies.
07:52 And I saw where Jesus fit into the whole thing.
07:55 And I decided that I wanted to be baptized.
07:59 So you really became a Christian
08:01 through public evangelism?
08:03 That's right.
08:04 To a certain extent anyhow? That's right.
08:06 And you got some evidence,
08:07 why you could intellectually believe in God?
08:10 Well, you see I came out of the,
08:12 you know, I was a teenager in high school
08:15 or early college during the 1950s.
08:18 And hard proof was really important back in those days.
08:21 It should be today too.
08:22 Yeah, so creationism, the prophetic scheme,
08:26 something I could tie together with history,
08:28 external reality outside the Bible was important for me.
08:32 And that's really helped me cross the line.
08:35 Do you believe that when this happened to you,
08:38 you actually found Christ?
08:40 Well, I would like to say
08:41 that my conversion
08:44 was a two step process.
08:49 Now I knew who Christ was,
08:51 but I wouldn't want to say I had a relationship with Him.
08:54 You wrote a book once and I've read it.
08:56 It's an excellent book
08:58 and I recommend it to everybody watching.
09:03 Is it a book or a sermon,
09:04 I've got to think hard on this one,
09:06 "I Used To Be Perfect."
09:08 That's it.
09:09 "I Used To Be Perfect."
09:10 That was of series of sermons
09:12 I preach to the General Conference in 1992.
09:15 And the administrator said, "This needs to be published."
09:21 And so I put the stuff together and...
09:23 How did you get over being so perfect?
09:26 Not easily.
09:28 I'll tell you how I got there, John.
09:30 Yeah, tell me.
09:31 I looked around at the Adventists,
09:33 I looked around at the other Christians
09:34 around there,
09:36 and I looked at you preachers and I said,
09:38 "None of you guys are perfect."
09:40 And I know why.
09:41 Yeah. You hadn't tried hard enough.
09:44 So by that time I was working on structural steel out
09:47 over San Francisco Bay.
09:48 What were you doing there?
09:50 I was a structural steel painter.
09:52 And so I was up in the rigging one day,
09:55 about three months after I was baptized,
09:58 and realizing what a mess the rest of you people were.
10:01 I promised God out loud
10:05 that I would be the first
10:07 perfectly sinless Christian since Jesus.
10:11 Well done.
10:12 And I knew I could do it
10:14 'cause I was a young man of tremendous energy...
10:17 And confidence.
10:18 See, yeah, and you guys, I know what your problem was.
10:20 You hadn't tried hard enough.
10:22 Goodness.
10:23 That's how I came to know you were messed up.
10:25 Yeah.
10:26 And there was about two months after that that I felt a call
10:29 to the ministry and attended the Pacific Union College,
10:35 a little college in Northern California.
10:38 Two years later, I had a call to be associate pastor
10:41 in the San Francisco Central Church
10:44 and would have stayed.
10:46 The conference president said, well,
10:48 I only got two years of education
10:49 when you need more than four.
10:51 So I was going to stay and then all of a sudden
10:53 they're going to have a citywide crusade.
10:57 And they're going to have me be the singing evangelist.
10:59 So you sing too.
11:00 No, I can't sing.
11:02 No. So I went back to college...
11:04 What? To learn to sing?
11:05 What's that? To learn to sing?
11:07 No. No.
11:08 No, I'm a failure. I'm tuned off.
11:10 Yeah.
11:11 And you didn't talk back in those days.
11:13 No.
11:14 So I figured the best way to get out
11:16 of being a singing evangelist
11:17 when you can't sing in a citywide crusade
11:19 is to go back to college.
11:21 But I felt the Lord was going to come quick.
11:23 So I did the next two years in one year
11:26 and then got out of the ministry.
11:28 And I went to Texas.
11:31 And so how was your perfectionism going
11:35 during this time?
11:37 What sort of progress were you making
11:39 in becoming very perfect?
11:41 I went through stages I thought I was...
11:43 You were getting pretty perfect.
11:44 I thought I was pretty good. Pretty perfect.
11:48 Yeah. Yeah.
11:49 I was kind of difficult to live with though.
11:51 Yeah. Yeah. You know...
11:53 I wonder why?
11:54 Well, it's obvious.
11:56 If you're perfect everybody else is imperfect,
11:58 most definitely.
12:00 So yeah, it was pretty bad.
12:03 And finally, I came to a day of reckoning.
12:07 I can still remember the day, it was March,
12:11 I can't remember the exact date,
12:12 but it was March 1969.
12:16 I had been a Christian for well...
12:20 And an Adventist. I am an Adventist.
12:22 I wouldn't say I was a Christian I know,
12:24 but I was a pastor, okay?
12:25 You were a pastor?
12:27 Oh, I was a pastor Progressing towards perfection?
12:29 I have three degrees in Adventist theology
12:31 and Christian theology.
12:32 And I was doing great I thought.
12:36 And I was pastor of a congregation
12:39 down in Galveston in Texas, Gulf Coast.
12:42 And one day I woke up and said, "You know,
12:44 I'm just as messed up as I used to be."
12:48 I have this theory that there's two kinds of sins,
12:52 nasty sins and vegetarian sins.
12:56 Oh. Yeah.
12:58 You know, what the nasty... I'd left off the nasty one.
12:59 Yes, yes.
13:00 I think we all know what the nasty ones are.
13:02 You know, thou shalt not be playing around
13:04 with other ladies, keep your money,
13:06 keep your hands off people's money,
13:08 don't bump them off.
13:10 But the vegetarian sin
13:12 is you're just better than other people.
13:17 Describe to me the vegetarian sin?
13:19 Why do you call it a vegetarian sin?
13:22 Well, because people all over in churches practice it.
13:26 You know, they've given up the nasty stuff
13:28 and now they're in church
13:29 and they think they're better than other people,
13:31 you know.
13:32 And most of them are vegetarians?
13:34 Well, I don't know if they're vegetarians or not.
13:37 But what I mean is,
13:40 you know, we could call the sin of the Pharisee,
13:42 it's the sin of goodness.
13:44 I'm better than you.
13:45 I pay tithe, I do this, I do that.
13:47 And so I was just, you know,
13:49 'cause the center of all sin is pride.
13:52 Of course.
13:53 It's love of yourself and loving yourself
13:57 in a prideful way.
13:58 And if I love myself more than God,
14:00 I can abuse His name, I can abuse His day.
14:04 And if I love myself more than you
14:06 and I'm big enough, I'll take your stuff.
14:09 So pride and self centeredness is at the very core.
14:14 And I have found out that I had moved
14:17 from being a secular person
14:20 to being a very sick church member.
14:24 See, I don't want to say Christian.
14:26 No. No, because...
14:28 A religionist.
14:29 Yeah, somebody that goes to church
14:32 and maybe even preaches isn't necessarily a Christian.
14:38 And so I came to a crisis point
14:41 and I remember taking out my wallet,
14:44 you know, sitting at my desk in March of 1969,
14:48 and getting out my ministerial credential,
14:51 and sending it to my conference administrator,
14:54 resigning from the Seventh-day Adventist ministry,
14:58 going to leave Christianity, go back to my happy hedonism.
15:04 And with that I went off
15:06 to study philosophy for six years.
15:09 And...
15:10 Where did you do this, in Houston, isn't it?
15:11 University of Houston.
15:13 Tell me about this experience?
15:15 Well, it was a good experience for me
15:18 because I was still looking for the answer.
15:20 So philosophy for six years?
15:22 Well, yeah.
15:23 That's a long time.
15:25 I was pretty interested in a philosophy of education
15:26 because I wanted to get a job.
15:28 Of course.
15:30 So, but at the end of six years I discovered that philosophy
15:34 did not hold the answer and that came as a shock to me.
15:40 And my major professor was an atheist,
15:44 he was an extensionist,
15:47 and every day in class he smashed religion.
15:51 Well, if an agnostic...
15:53 Every day?
15:54 Yeah, for backslidden agnostic type
15:57 pastor could have said amen.
15:58 I would have said amen.
16:00 But then one day, I am in his office.
16:02 You were doing a doctorate?
16:03 Yes. Yes.
16:04 And he said to me, George, he says if I wasn't a Jew,
16:08 I'd be a nobody.
16:09 Said, "What do you mean, Josh, you don't even like religion."
16:14 And he said, "You don't understand,
16:16 I belong to the community."
16:19 I'm not just one of those millions of people out there.
16:22 I belong to the Jewish community.
16:24 They sent me all over the world as a speaker to hold seminars.
16:29 And I'm saying to myself, "Oh my,
16:30 this guy could be a Baptist.
16:32 He could be a Catholic.
16:34 He could be an Adventist."
16:35 I mean, just because he's a Jew...
16:37 And suddenly, it all came together.
16:41 In any religious organization there are true believers
16:45 and there are people that that is their social location,
16:49 that's where they were born.
16:50 And with that another...
16:52 See I'd already come to a conclusion that philosophy
16:55 was bankrupt in terms of real answers.
16:57 Which it is.
16:58 Yeah, and now Josh helped me see
17:02 what I should have seen.
17:05 In Matthew 13, that the good fish
17:08 and the bad fish are all swimming around
17:10 in the pond until they eschaton,
17:11 until Jesus comes again.
17:14 And that Jesus had told us
17:16 that church is going to have a lot of social Christians
17:21 mixed in with believers.
17:24 I should say social church members
17:27 mixed in with believing Christian church members.
17:30 And then a third thing happened,
17:33 a man got invited to my house and don't tell me how,
17:37 but I never wanted to see him again.
17:40 He was my first Bible teacher at Pacific Union College.
17:44 So you knew him. You already sat in his class.
17:46 I knew him. He was my favorite teacher.
17:49 You did a degree with him in theology.
17:52 Yeah, I did my first degree, my bachelor's degree.
17:55 That was a big help, wasn't it?
17:56 Yeah. Yeah.
17:57 Well, he got invited to my house,
17:59 spent the whole day with me, knew my problem,
18:01 never said one word.
18:05 He just exuded the sweet love of Jesus.
18:08 And when he left,
18:09 I told my wife he has what I need.
18:13 I met Jesus that day in Robert Olson.
18:18 And I've never turned back.
18:21 So 14 years after I got baptized
18:26 into the Seventh-day Adventist church.
18:30 I became a Christian.
18:32 That's my conversion story.
18:34 Had you been reading your Bible?
18:36 No.
18:37 For six years I didn't read my Bible or pray.
18:41 What about when you were a pastor?
18:42 Did you read your Bible?
18:44 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I read somewhere
18:46 you're supposed to spend a thoughtful hour
18:47 every day in the life of Christ.
18:50 Well, I didn't quite make an hour,
18:52 but, you know, I read it.
18:53 Oh, boy, I'm going to get my 30 minutes
18:55 and my 15 minute...
18:56 I'm going to do my thing
18:58 and I could read it through once a year
18:59 and I could do everything.
19:01 And I had a lot of it memorized.
19:03 I mean, I was good at that kind of stuff.
19:06 I would have made a wonderful Pharisee back in the old days.
19:08 So you were searching the scriptures?
19:10 Well, I was searching the scriptures,
19:11 but I'm not quite sure I had the right spirit.
19:14 So from the Olson experience where did you go?
19:19 How did you saw a testimony for Christ in this man?
19:25 Or how did you find the gospel from there?
19:28 Well, I'll tell you the truth.
19:31 I had lectured on the gospel without experiencing it.
19:36 Can you identify with some of the stuff?
19:38 Of course.
19:39 Yeah, I mean, I was teaching other people
19:41 the theory of salvation.
19:44 So I mean, I know all about justification,
19:46 sanctification...
19:48 So you knew this.
19:49 Yes, I knew it.
19:52 But I hadn't experienced a personal relationship
19:54 with Jesus Christ.
19:55 So you hadn't had a revelation like Paul had it?
19:58 No, I hadn't met Christ on the road to Damascus.
20:02 I just had the Torah.
20:04 But you were a super religionist.
20:07 Oh man, I was good at it.
20:08 I could imagine.
20:12 But I was not the kind of guy you'd want to live with.
20:16 Are you not too hard on yourself?
20:18 No, I don't think so.
20:19 So you're pretty hard on people because you were critical?
20:22 I was very critical.
20:24 Well, of course if...
20:25 And I had all the proof.
20:27 You know, what I mean by proof?
20:29 Now, you've preached a famous sermon.
20:32 I don't think they would publish
20:34 a book on this one.
20:35 Oh, I bet, I think, I know what you're going to say
20:37 and I bet you, I could publish this book on.
20:39 Let me say it.
20:41 You preached a sermon on
20:43 why I don't like Seventh-day Adventists.
20:47 Is that the book,
20:48 a potential book you're thinking of?
20:50 Why I don't like Adventists.
20:51 Never put the Seventh-day in there.
20:53 Yeah, but I had a message.
20:57 I love Christians.
20:59 And if they were only Adventists,
21:02 I could say same thing about Baptists, Catholics,
21:04 Methodists.
21:06 If they only have a denomination or affiliation,
21:09 but no Jesus Christ, I won't lose.
21:13 And so, yeah, I happen to love Christian Adventist
21:19 and Christian whatever denomination...
21:21 Sure.
21:23 Okay?
21:24 But all they've got is their pedigree,
21:27 and they don't have Jesus...
21:28 Then they are Pharisees, harsh and hard.
21:31 That's right. That's right.
21:33 Is it not true that so many people
21:35 are turned away from Christ because of "the church?"
21:41 Yes. Yes.
21:43 Harshness, coldness.
21:44 Yes.
21:46 George, I've been to Russia on many occasions,
21:48 and 49 times actually.
21:52 And we would start up churches.
21:54 And the reason we did this was a young preacher said,
21:58 "We've got to start up new churches."
22:00 I'm going to whisper this, he said,
22:03 "So the new members are not picked to death."
22:07 I can understand that.
22:09 He said, "If they go to an old church,
22:11 the odds are, they're going to be picked to death."
22:16 You've got to do this, you got to do this,
22:17 you got to do, do, do, cock a doodle do.
22:20 And you're not doing enough.
22:22 You know, this is a problem among
22:25 most conservative denominations.
22:27 Old churches, not just Adventists.
22:30 And, you know, Nietzsche,
22:32 the great atheistic philosopher once said,
22:35 "The best argument against Christianity is Christians."
22:39 Well, I've paraphrased it.
22:41 The best argument against Adventism is Adventists.
22:43 No, I could say Baptist is Baptist,
22:45 Catholic is Catholic, you know.
22:46 And you were so tactful.
22:48 It just happens, that's what I am.
22:49 Yeah. Yeah.
22:51 You know, I can vouch for that.
22:55 That's one reason I never joined
22:57 that first church.
22:58 I won't even tell you where it is.
23:00 Well, there is plenty like that I'm afraid.
23:02 That's right.
23:03 It might have been a church anyway down the road anyway.
23:05 I'm going to tell you, John,
23:06 that the church I belong to now is the one...
23:10 We love each other.
23:12 I preached there year ago January on worship.
23:15 You know, usually we preached the vertical,
23:17 I preached on the horizontal.
23:19 What is supposed to happen to you during worship?
23:24 And I told people very frankly,
23:27 you know, when I first came here,
23:29 I was offended because you stand here
23:31 in the sanctuary and you talk for half an hour.
23:35 And after a while I said, "No..."
23:37 That's good.
23:39 These people have met Jesus here
23:41 and they're sharing His love
23:44 in the sanctuary for half an hour,
23:46 they don't want to go home.
23:48 That's what worship is all about,
23:50 it's not just up there,
23:52 it's...
23:53 Tell me this because we've got lots of folks
23:56 watching around the world.
23:58 And we're glad you've joined us today.
24:01 And our guest in Dr. George Knight.
24:04 Tell me in just a few words, the heart of it,
24:08 what is Christianity?
24:10 What is it to become a Christian?
24:11 Oh, to become a Christian is to fall in love with Jesus.
24:17 And why do I love Jesus
24:18 because He gave everything for me.
24:21 God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son
24:23 that whosoever believeth in Him might have everlasting life.
24:28 Jesus, you know, the gospel,
24:31 we short circuit the gospel sometimes.
24:35 Sometimes I preach on the gospel
24:36 in the Book of Revelation.
24:38 The gospel in the Book of Revelation...
24:40 You ask somebody what the gospel is.
24:42 They'll say, "Oh, saved by grace."
24:45 They probably mean justified by grace.
24:46 Yes.
24:48 Well, that Jesus died for me
24:51 and that's what I wanted to say.
24:53 I got ahead of myself that Jesus died for me.
24:56 Is that good news?
24:58 Well, not really.
24:59 What good's a dead Savior.
25:01 So over in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Paul says,
25:04 "I want to tell you about the gospel
25:06 that Jesus died for us..."
25:08 "And He was raised on the third day."
25:09 "Raised on the third day..."
25:10 "According to the scriptures."
25:12 But, you know, that's not the whole Bible.
25:14 I mean, that happened 2,000 years ago
25:18 and babies are still dying of cancer,
25:21 people are still committing wars
25:22 and all kinds of atrocities,
25:24 there's more to the gospel than that.
25:27 So I call the gospel according to the Book of Revelation,
25:30 that is Jesus is coming again to rescue us from this mess.
25:35 And so the gospel is many faceted.
25:38 But three things for sure, Jesus died,
25:42 He resurrected because He resurrected,
25:45 I'm going to resurrect if I believe in Him,
25:47 and have relationship with Him, and number three,
25:50 He's coming again to take me out of this mess.
25:54 Good news indeed.
25:55 From this experience,
25:57 from the great awakening where did you go?
26:00 Well, actually I wanted to go, work for the church,
26:07 and I wanted to do something that I wanted to do.
26:11 You know, I always want to teach in Union University
26:13 and stuff like that,
26:14 and I thought all having a doctorate,
26:16 ah, that's wonderful.
26:17 Then I found out and I got there
26:19 and I found out that all those people
26:20 had problems just like everybody else's.
26:21 So I wanted to go teach up on a two teacher
26:23 school up in the mountains.
26:27 On what mountains?
26:29 Over Rockies, you know, Cascades there, any place,
26:34 but I just wanted to be with young people
26:37 and work with them.
26:39 I happen to like young people,
26:42 you know, the generation thing is that,
26:46 you know, you work with older people,
26:47 sometimes it's like they've got cement poured in their head.
26:52 Not all of them, but what young people
26:54 they're still quite malleable.
26:55 And I've always, that's what I want to know
26:57 and have a ministry, teaching just small classrooms
27:00 of young people...
27:01 Up in the mountains? Up in the mountains.
27:03 That's what I wanted to do, but God had a different idea.
27:06 Yeah.
27:07 Today our guest is Dr. George Knight.
27:10 And we'll be back in just a few moments.
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