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00:01 Hello, friend. I'm John Carter.
00:03 Welcome today to the Carter Report. 00:06 With me is an old friend and colleague, Alan Reinach, 00:10 Esq, Attorney, who is the Executive Director 00:14 of the Church State Council here in Southern California. 00:18 We've got a great show for you today. 00:21 Welcome today to the Carter Report. 00:27 I'm John Carter in Moscow. In Havana, Cuba. 00:32 Now in Kiev, the capital of Ukraine. 00:36 I'm John Carter in Petra. 00:38 Right here in Communist China. 00:41 Reporting from India. 00:44 Hi, I'm John Carter in the Solomon Islands. 00:47 I'm John Carter in Soweto. From El Salvador. 00:51 I'm John Carter in Sydney, Australia. 00:54 Pastor Carter explores "Freedom of Religion 00:57 and Freedom of the Press." 01:02 We're talking today about Freedom 01:04 and the American Dream. 01:06 Is it being challenged or our liberty is at threat. 01:11 Alan, we're delighted to have you with us today. 01:14 Always a pleasure, John. 01:15 It's been a privilege over the years to work with you 01:18 and we're glad that you're here today. 01:20 Have you heard of a great American company goal, 01:24 Chick-fil-A? 01:25 I have. 01:26 It's my pet's favorite for treats. 01:29 My beloved Shar-Pei Lucas. 01:32 Say, say the name again. Lucas. 01:34 But you said something else. 01:35 Oh, it's a Shar-Pei, the Chinese breed. 01:37 Oh, it's a Chinese breed and it likes Chick-fil-A. 01:40 He loves Chick-fil-A. Yes. 01:41 Now Chick-fil-A is a Christian company, I'm told. 01:43 It is. They don't open on Sundays. 01:45 They believe in keeping their Sabbath. 01:47 Correct. 01:48 And they're having trouble in Texas of all places. 01:51 And San Antonio. Yeah. 01:53 Imagine that Batson, Texas is a conservative, 01:57 you know, Christian sort of place. 01:59 Yeah. Christian values. 02:00 Yeah. 02:02 And Chick-fil-A is being kicked out of the San Antonio airport, 02:05 why? 02:07 Well, because of their beliefs 02:09 about the President's outspoken beliefs about marriage. 02:13 Because the owner of Chick-fil-A 02:16 is a conservative Christian. 02:17 He is. 02:19 And he's got rights to ideas. 02:21 Well, you know, the interesting thing about this story is, 02:24 it'd be one thing if they were actually discriminating 02:28 against gay people in violation of the law. 02:31 That's not the allegation. 02:33 It would, it really amounts to viewpoint discrimination. 02:37 They're saying, "We don't want you in the airport 02:40 because we don't like your viewpoint." 02:42 Which is quite un-American. 02:44 Well, it's illegal. 02:45 And it's bigotry. 02:47 It's blatantly illegal because 02:49 the airport is, you know, 02:52 at least a quasi governmental entity. 02:54 Here is a type in, I thought you'd enjoy. 02:57 This is from City Council of San Antonio. 03:02 Councilman Roberto Treviño. 03:04 He says, "San Antonio is a city full of compassion, 03:10 and we do not have room in our public facilities 03:13 for a business with a legacy of anti-LGBTQ behavior." 03:18 Right. 03:19 But it's not behavior 03:20 that they're objecting to its speech... 03:22 Yeah. 03:23 Which is a violation of the First Amendment 03:25 because you have a government entity, saying, 03:28 where "We don't like what you have to say about marriage." 03:31 I thought this was America. 03:32 I thought we had freedom of speech here. 03:34 Well, yeah, we're supposed to. 03:37 Now, he says, this man goes on to Mr. TreviA o. 03:40 "Everyone has a place here," 03:44 Except, brilliant, right. 03:45 "And everyone should..." 03:47 Back when, when America was celebrating 03:49 our Bicentennial, 03:51 a Russian was interviewed 03:53 on national television and asked what, 03:57 you know, what his view of America was? 03:58 Yes. 03:59 And he said, "Well, you know, in the Soviet Union, 04:01 we have freedom to speak." 04:03 Yes. 04:04 In the United States, we have freedom after we speak. 04:09 Well, apparently, 04:11 some still do, but others not so much. 04:13 And so you'll have a dreadful bigotry 04:17 coming from people on the left. 04:20 Yes, there is that. On my way or the highway. 04:23 Yes. 04:24 You know, the postmodern ethos is, 04:27 it doesn't matter what you believe, 04:28 as long as what you believe doesn't matter. 04:31 If you're a Christian, 04:32 if you're a person of any religious faith, 04:35 and you believe that your faith, 04:37 your religion is the absolute truth. 04:39 Well, that's not acceptable. 04:40 So this is quite amazing because I've lived in Texas, 04:43 and I love the great state of Texas. 04:46 And Texas supposed to be the land of freedom, 04:49 and churches, and religion 04:52 and here is a poor man and with his company, 04:56 and they kicked out of this Texas facility 04:59 because this man believes in God 05:02 and believes in marriage. 05:03 Well, you know, in some sense, John, 05:07 the election of Donald Trump as president 05:10 is a reaction to this kind of foolishness from the Left. 05:13 And it's bigotry. 05:16 You know, the concern about the intolerance of the Left, 05:19 and some of the advances, 05:21 you know, we forget now then in 2016, 05:24 the big ticket front page news item 05:27 consistently was about transgender bathroom. 05:30 Can you believe it? 05:32 No, a objection to North Carolina's, 05:34 you know, opposition to something like this. 05:38 And, you know, whatever your view is, 05:40 clearly, many Americans were very upset 05:43 about the direction that the Left was taking us... 05:46 And I was too. 05:47 And Trump was the result. 05:51 So whether you like it or don't, 05:53 I think that's the reality. 05:56 Please define for me, 05:58 Attorney, religious liberty? 06:02 What is religious liberty? 06:04 Well, at its heart, it has to be the freedom 06:07 not only to believe, but to act, 06:11 to engage in religious activities, 06:14 not only in private, 06:16 but as a community. 06:19 And this is the genius of America, is it not? 06:22 Absolutely. 06:24 We don't believe in theocracies, I thought. 06:27 Well, no, we don't. 06:29 What's a theocracy? 06:30 Well, theocracy in... 06:33 Look, in the biblical context, 06:35 during the period of the judges, 06:37 you know, there was no king, 06:38 there was no government as such. 06:40 And, you know, God had direct dealings 06:45 through the priesthood, through the prophets and such. 06:49 But in the more modern context, what theocracy really means 06:54 is people claiming to have authority from God 06:57 to rule in God's name. 06:59 That's like Saudi Arabia. 07:00 That's probably the best modern example. 07:03 How many churches in Saudi Arabia, do you know? 07:05 Yeah, actually, I do. 07:07 Because they're not permitted in Saudi Arabia, 07:10 there're no churches. 07:11 What about synagogues? 07:12 That's clearly not allowed, no. 07:15 And these people are our great allies. 07:18 And yet they provide more financing for terrorism 07:22 than just about to compete with Iran 07:24 for financing terrorists. 07:26 Wahhabism. Right. 07:27 Yes, exported around the world. 07:29 Well, in most of the 9/11 attackers 07:32 were Saudi citizens. 07:33 They've spent at least $100 billion exporting 07:38 this awful doctrine of Wahhabi around the world. 07:44 And so no Christian churches there, but it is, 07:47 as I say, it is a theocracy. 07:49 And it seems to me that there are some Christians in America 07:54 who would like America to become a theocracy. 07:57 Do you think this is true? 07:58 Well, it is absolutely true. 08:01 Most Americans are oblivious to the influence 08:05 that it goes by various names, dominionism is one name, 08:10 reconstructionism is another name. 08:13 The idea that America was established 08:15 to be a Christian nation, as a general proposition, 08:19 there was a recent poll in the southern states, 08:23 where fully 80% of those polled agreed 08:27 that America was established as a Christian nation. 08:29 Well, that essentially amounts to the belief 08:32 that we should be a theocracy. 08:35 And a theocracy always brings intolerance, does it not? 08:39 Well, by definition, if you believe 08:42 that you are implementing God's will and God's rules, 08:46 then those who don't go along with your vision 08:51 of what's appropriate matters of faith, 08:55 they don't have freedom. 08:56 Now, Israel, is it not, the State of Israel, 08:59 is it democracy? 09:01 It is. 09:02 It's not a theocracy. No, it's not. 09:03 Now, you're an authority on this. 09:05 Well, no, but you'll ask me anyway. 09:09 I'll pretend for tonight. 09:11 Yeah. Okay. 09:12 Tell me about this extreme right wing Jewish group 09:16 in Israel and they want to drive the Palestinians 09:19 into the sea? 09:21 Well, now see, I think you're actually describing 09:24 mainstream Palestinian thought because it's the Palestinians 09:29 who has a platform of their existence for decades 09:34 have insisted that the Jews be driven into the sea. 09:38 And they have a map of the area that does not recognize 09:43 the nation of Israel. 09:44 But I understand, and once again, 09:46 you know far more about these things than I do. 09:50 That since they agreed upon a two states 09:55 within one state settlement. 09:57 They've agreed that Israel has the right to exist. 10:00 No, they haven't. 10:01 They absolutely have not, and they haven't changed 10:03 any of their platform. 10:05 They may say some nice things in English 10:08 for popular consumption. 10:09 But in Arabic, it's the same, and they're still 10:13 indoctrinating their young people. 10:14 Now, you speak Arabic, don't you? 10:15 No, I don't. No. 10:17 No, I don't. 10:18 What about Hebrew? 10:19 You know little Hebrew? 10:21 Very little. 10:22 Yeah, I know. Much little, little. 10:24 Poquito. 10:25 Yeah, yeah, poquito. Yeah. 10:27 All right, tell me about this extreme right wing group 10:30 because you got out of that one before? 10:33 Actually the interesting thing, you know, 10:35 we're sitting here the day after the election in Israel. 10:38 Yes. Yes. 10:39 And it appears that Netanyahu has won re-election. 10:43 And it certainly reflects that the right wing in Israel 10:48 is growing in influence. 10:51 Yes, it is. But I wouldn't... 10:53 Well, the sort of white nationalism 10:57 is rampant around the Western world. 11:01 What causes this? 11:02 Now, we do have a surge in intolerance 11:05 around the world. 11:07 Is this true? 11:08 It's not only true, it's the epidemic proportions 11:11 most people don't have any clue. 11:14 But 80% of the global population 11:17 live in nations with little or no religious freedom. 11:20 Think about that for a minute. 11:22 Most of the world's population don't... 11:25 Eighty percent of the global population 11:27 are in nations with little or no religious freedom. 11:30 Oh, let's name them Saudi Arabia. 11:33 Well, okay. Iran. 11:34 The Islamic world, for sure is a big problem. 11:37 Virtually all the Islamic world? 11:39 In terms of population, China and India, of course, 11:42 the largest, Russia's being another one. 11:44 Yes. 11:45 So there you have most of the Asian landmass, 11:48 lots of conflict in Africa. 11:50 But, you know, the America's are not immune. 11:53 What's behind this global resurgence of bigotry 11:59 and intolerance? 12:00 Well, outside of the West and the West secularism 12:04 and the intolerance of the left, I think, 12:06 is the dominant concern, although there is certainly 12:09 a growing amount of right wing intolerance as well. 12:13 But around the rest of the world, 12:15 the two main factors are either nationalism, 12:19 or fundament, or religious fundamentalism. 12:22 So for example, in India, it's Hindu fundamentalists 12:25 who are destroying churches 12:27 and killing pastors and what have you. 12:29 Now, most Americans are not aware of this. 12:32 You know, we have these two oceans 12:34 that insulate us from reality. 12:36 But in India, Christians are being put to death... 12:39 They are. 12:40 By Hindu fundamentalists. True. 12:43 And then, of course, in all, 12:46 virtually all of the Muslim countries, 12:47 there is no freedom of religion. 12:49 That is true. 12:51 And so America has been a bastion 12:53 of freedom of religion and freedom of speech. 12:56 And hopefully a champion of the same 12:59 in our foreign policy, at least at times we have. 13:01 But how is America doing today is the great champion 13:04 of freedom of speech and freedom of religion? 13:07 We're not. 13:08 The short answer is we're not. 13:10 Is that not going, my friend, just a tiny bit too far. 13:15 No, it's not. 13:16 We had a very interesting meeting earlier. 13:21 Oh, let's see, where? 13:22 Last year, where the State Department 13:26 assembled dignitaries from around the world 13:28 to emphasize religious freedom. 13:31 It was basically a show. 13:33 Okay, because in our foreign policy, 13:36 our foreign policy is America first. 13:38 And, you know, we're destabilizing our relationship 13:42 with our allies and cozying up to dictators. 13:45 So what does that say to the world? 13:48 China, for example, has since Trump is elected 13:52 engaged in and this is not 13:55 for the consumption of children, by the way, 14:01 harvesting of organs of religious dissidents. 14:05 In other words, killing religious dissidents 14:09 who are predominantly Muslim or Christian of some sort 14:12 or Falun Gong, and then using their organs 14:17 for medical purposes for transplants. 14:19 China is actually doing this. 14:20 There is considerable evidence, 14:22 the United Nations is very concerned about this. 14:25 You know, we're in negotiations with China over trade issues 14:30 but not over human rights issues. 14:32 Is this not a betrayal of the American dream, 14:37 that America is the champion of freedom around the world? 14:40 Look... 14:42 We have a mixed track record to be sure 14:45 in how we have advocated for human rights 14:49 in our foreign policy. 14:50 But I think it's more absent today than it has been and yes, 14:56 you know, ideally, United States needs to make 14:59 human rights and religious freedom 15:01 main issues in foreign policy. 15:04 And are not the Chinese persecuting Muslims. 15:08 It's a group of Muslims. 15:09 Well, the weak are in the West. 15:12 There's a whole area where literally, 15:15 something like a million Muslims 15:18 are subjected to what amounts to almost detention camp 15:22 like facilities in terms of re-education and monitoring. 15:27 You know, China has perfected the use of cameras 15:32 and facial recognition. 15:34 So yeah, it's very oppressive for the weaker 15:38 Muslim community there. 15:40 And it's not only China, but if you go to Russia. 15:44 Now, I've been to Russia many times, 49 times. 15:47 I like to tell people 49 times. 15:51 Jehovah Witnesses are persecuted in Russia. 15:55 They are. 15:57 And I don't hear us saying a word about it. 15:59 You know, President... 16:01 You know about the persecution of Jehovah Witnesses. 16:02 President Trump 16:05 seems to be very enamored with Putin. 16:09 But he's trying, I think to make peace. 16:12 He thinks it's better for us to be at peace 16:14 with the Russians than to be fighting the Russians. 16:17 And this is true. 16:18 Well, I'm not gonna pretend to know what President Trump 16:23 thinks about Putin or anybody else. 16:26 But clearly we have done very little in opposing 16:30 the persecution of the Jehovah Witnesses. 16:31 I don't think we've done anything. 16:33 It's illegal. 16:34 It's illegal now to be a Jehovah Witness in Russia. 16:36 Yes, it is. Yes, it is. 16:38 It's complete persecution, just like the Jews 16:41 were persecuted in Germany. 16:44 Well, it's not just like 16:46 because they're not rounding them up 16:47 and putting them in gas chambers. 16:49 Not yet. Not yet. 16:50 Yes. 16:52 Well, hopefully, it won't come to that. 16:53 But it is still terrible discrimination 16:54 and persecution. 16:56 Of course, it is. 16:57 And they are being put in prison. 16:59 They are. Yes. 17:01 And then you've got, of course, North Korea. 17:03 And I'm, you know, we don't get into politics on this program. 17:10 I'm an independent person. And I think you are too. 17:14 But in North Korea, we have a dreadful regime. 17:18 But I think it's a good thing that the President has tried 17:21 to make peace with North Korea. 17:23 It's better to have peace than nuclear war, is it not? 17:26 Yes, it certainly is. 17:28 And, you know, the jury is still out on whether... 17:31 It's going to work. 17:32 Whether this approach to North Korea 17:34 will be productive. 17:35 Of course, you know, 17:37 we all hope for a reduction intentions 17:40 with countries like North Korea 17:42 Yes. 17:44 I think Churchill said that 17:46 "Jaw-jaw was better than war-war." 17:50 You know that saying. I think it was Churchill. 17:52 Okay. 17:54 Well, church, but, you know, Churchill was one 17:56 who was fit to be tied over the appeasement policies 18:00 that England pursued towards Germany in the 1930s. 18:04 And, of course, when literally all hell broke loose 18:07 with the German Blitzkrieg, it was Churchill, 18:11 who was hold on 18:12 to lead the nation in opposing Hitler. 18:15 Well, there was a reason for this. 18:16 England had gone through the World War I. 18:19 Sure. 18:20 And they'd lost a million young men on the trenches, 18:22 in Flanders, other parts of Europe, 18:24 and they said never, never again. 18:27 And 20 years later is another big war. 18:29 Right. 18:30 And so Churchill was the only voice in England 18:32 during that time during the 1930s, 18:34 when he was almost sentenced to Siberia 18:37 for his outspoken views. 18:39 Yeah. 18:40 He was saying, "This man is a bad man. 18:42 We're going to have trouble. 18:44 But the House of Commons shouted him down. 18:47 And he became a great proponent of freedom, 18:51 and also a proponent of giving Israel, 18:56 the Jewish people the Land of Israel. 18:58 So you have Israel, the one democracy in the Middle East, 19:02 surrounded by hundreds of millions 19:04 of hostile neighbors. 19:07 All right, I see your point, but it's good for us 19:09 to discuss these things. 19:11 Muslim countries do not allow Christians to build churches. 19:16 No, that's not entirely true. 19:17 Most Muslim countries. 19:19 There are churches in various Arab countries. 19:23 I've preached in Jordan, which is probably the best 19:26 Muslim country in the world. 19:28 And there are Christian churches in Syria. 19:31 Well, there were Christian churches in Syria. 19:34 Well, there is an ancient Christian community 19:36 in most of these countries... 19:38 And in Iraq. 19:39 But they're under duress these days, Egypt, 19:43 tremendous attacks periodically on churches 19:47 and killing people while they're worshiping even. 19:50 Let me restate this statement. 19:53 Many Muslim countries do not allow Christians 19:56 to build churches, but we allow Muslims 20:00 to build their places of worship here. 20:05 Why don't we say to them, 20:06 "You don't let us do it over in the Middle East, 20:08 you're not going to do it here?" 20:09 Right, because we think Saudi Arabia 20:11 and the type of religious intolerance 20:14 in the Muslim world 20:16 is what we want to emulate, right? 20:20 And now you're asking me the question. 20:21 Well, I know, it's a rhetorical question, 20:24 John, of course. 20:25 I thought I was asking the question. 20:27 Of course, we, you know, we set an example. 20:32 And it goes back, you know, as far as Roger Williams 20:35 and other founders, William Penn, 20:37 you know, they were very clear 20:39 that religious freedom means 20:40 that people of all faiths are welcome. 20:43 Now Williams had, you know, an illustration 20:47 that you have people of varying faiths, 20:49 including Muslims on a ship, on board a ship, 20:52 and as long as they obeyed the captain and did their job 20:57 on the ship, they had full freedom 20:59 of belief and worship. 21:00 And this is, this is what we believe. 21:02 And so now we talk about the ship of state. 21:05 And the same is true, 21:06 we have certain responsibilities as citizens, 21:08 you know, not to kill each other and, 21:10 you know, what have you. 21:11 And as long as we live in peace, we are allowed 21:14 to have our freedom of worship and have our mosques, 21:18 or synagogues, or temples, or whatever. 21:20 And so Muslims have got the absolute right 21:24 under the Constitution to build a mosque in New York. 21:28 Yes, they do. 21:29 Wasn't this contentious just recently. 21:32 You know, I did an interview on Fox some years ago, 21:35 debating one of the conservative 21:38 Christian folks, in fact, that was... 21:39 Is that a conservative station? 21:41 Yes. 21:43 In fact, it was the son 21:44 of one of Donald Trump's lawyers. 21:46 It was Alan Sequeira, I was debating. 21:48 Yeah. 21:49 And they were opposing what they falsely called 21:51 the ground zero mosque. 21:53 And I pointed out that this was flagrant 21:55 viewpoint discrimination. 21:57 You know, they didn't want a mosque 21:59 in Lower Manhattan, 22:01 would have been okay to build a church there, 22:03 any other kind of religious center, 22:05 but just not an Islamic one. 22:07 And it was several blocks away from the actual, 22:11 you know, ground zero. 22:12 So it wasn't really a ground zero mosque, 22:15 and anyone who knows New York like I do, 22:17 I grew up there knows that a few blocks... 22:19 You're a New Yorker, aren't you? 22:20 You know, you go to ground zero. 22:21 And if you have a mosque, an Islamic center 22:25 several blocks away, you don't even know it's there, 22:27 if you go visit the ground zero monument 22:30 and museum there. 22:31 But it's the heart of the American dream 22:35 to believe that every religion has the right 22:38 to practice his faith. 22:39 Absolutely. 22:41 And Muslims, Christians, Jehovah Witnesses, 22:44 Seventh-day Adventist, Roman Catholics? 22:47 You know, I don't think 22:49 it's just an accident of history, 22:50 John, that freedom of religion found its way to being 22:53 the first of the rights in the Bill of Rights. 22:57 I think it's, you know, it's more than just symbolic 23:01 that really, it is our first freedom, 23:03 and historians and commentators for over the course 23:07 of our history as a country have referred 23:09 to religious freedom as our nation's first freedom. 23:12 What would a theocracy look like in America? 23:16 If we ever got a theocracy, what would it look like? 23:20 Well, I think it would look like a form of Christianity 23:23 being enforced by law, 23:25 and those who don't go along with it are punished. 23:28 Do we have a precedent for this in history? 23:31 Well, the closest precedent we have 23:35 is the Holy Roman Empire 23:36 during the Middle Ages where you had 23:38 a very close association between the emperor 23:42 and the church. 23:43 And somebody said it wasn't holy, 23:45 and it wasn't Roman, and it wasn't an empire. 23:49 It was a church state thing, wasn't it? 23:51 Well, yes, it certainly was. 23:54 I think it was Roman in a sense of the church, 23:57 you know, the church really was the heir 23:59 to the Roman Empire. 24:00 Yes. It was. Yes. 24:02 The Roman Catholic Church was built on the Roman Empire. 24:05 And the pope took the title of the Roman Emperor 24:09 Pontifex Maximus. 24:11 Can I read you a text out of the Bible? 24:13 Please. 24:14 And then tell me what this means 24:16 because I know that you are an authority also, 24:19 on Bible prophecy. 24:23 Revelation 17, "Then one of the seven angels 24:27 had the seven bowls came and talked with me, 24:29 saying to me, 'Come, I will show you 24:31 the judgment of the great harlot 24:33 who sits on many waters." 24:36 He is a harlot. 24:37 As you know, in Bible Prophecy, a woman represents the church. 24:42 Now, I'm going little further, it says, 24:46 "With whom the kings of the earth 24:47 committed fornication, 24:49 and the inhabitants of the earth 24:51 were made drunk with wine of her fornication.' 24:55 So he sees a woman sitting on a scarlet beast 24:59 that was full of names of blasphemy. 25:02 The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet.'" 25:05 What is this a symbol of? 25:07 Well, it's a symbol of a church state union, 25:12 really, because you have a woman representing 25:16 a corrupt form of Christianity, 25:19 dressed in the royal garb of, you know, the... 25:23 And what's the beast in Revelation here? 25:25 Well, beasts always represent nation. 25:28 So it's the state? Right. 25:30 So he got a union? 25:31 So you have the woman is pictured on top riding, 25:34 so holding the reigns, so to speak. 25:36 Yeah. 25:37 So prophetically what you see is a return 25:40 to something like... 25:42 Well, Revelation 13 uses the expression and image 25:45 of the beast. 25:46 In other words, it is like the church state arrangements 25:50 of the Middle Ages. 25:52 And theologians for years have said, this is the heart 25:55 and the essence of antichrist, a theocracy. 26:01 So we're going to be back in a moment 26:02 and we're going to ask the question 26:04 of our great attorney here. 26:06 What would a theocracy look like 26:09 in the United States of America today? 26:12 We'll be back in a moment. 26:15 Don't go away. 26:25 The antichrist is in the temple of God. 26:31 I read you the actual words 26:33 of the great Roman Catholic Church. 26:38 More than a billion people pray to the dead. 26:43 But the Bible talks very plainly about good angels 26:47 and bad angels. 26:51 Why on earth were you and I born? 27:00 This DVD series from John Carter will be yours 27:02 with a gift of $50 US or $70 Australian, 27:06 write to us at the address on the screen. 27:08 This is Cartereport.org, 27:10 your home for inspirational teaching. 27:26 Greater Manila is more than 20 million souls. 27:29 Almost all these beautiful people 27:31 are ignorant of the true Gospel of Christ. 27:34 Manila needs Jesus. 27:36 Thirty five years ago, John Carter came to Manila. 27:39 Pastor Carter is returning to Manila 27:42 with an urgent assignment, preach the Gospel of Christ 27:45 and the great truths of the Bible. 27:47 Don't water down the message. 27:49 Make it plain, make it clear, make it Christ centered. 27:53 The Carter Report needs your help now 27:56 to light a fire in the Philippines. 27:59 Your gift will help open the doors of bondage, 28:01 smash the chains of sin, and open the gates of paradise 28:05 to thousands of lost souls. 28:08 The churches have sent out an urgent plea 28:10 for the Carter Report to return. 28:12 Help us proclaim the true Gospel of Christ 28:15 to the beautiful Filipino people. 28:17 Please send your support to the address on the screen. 28:20 Visit our website or call the Carter Report. 28:28 For a copy of today's program, please contact us 28:31 at P.O. 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