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00:01 As the world lurches from one disaster to another,
00:05 politicians seemed frozen
00:06 in a state of impotency and confusion.
00:10 Some even questioned
00:11 the very existence of the church,
00:13 while others ask, is there a word from the Lord?
00:17 Is there a solution to the problems
00:19 that are tearing society apart?
00:22 Today, John Carter will answer those questions
00:25 but first, we must begin by asking
00:27 the most important question of all,
00:29 what matters most.
00:53 You can have all the silver
00:58 You can have all the gold
01:01 Just give me Jesus
01:07 You can have all the wisdom
01:11 This earth can hold
01:15 Just give me Jesus
01:18 Give me Jesus
01:20 When I'm lonely
01:21 And I've nowhere to go
01:25 Give me Jesus
01:26 He's the only one who love me so
01:32 Give me Jesus love
01:36 Jesus is all I need
01:47 You can have all the spotlights
01:50 You can have all the fame
01:54 Just give me Jesus
02:00 You can have all the success
02:04 Have you and will know name
02:08 Just give me Jesus
02:11 Give me Jesus
02:12 Jesus
02:13 When I'm lonely
02:15 And I'm nowhere to go
02:18 Give me Jesus
02:19 Jesus
02:20 He's the only one who loves me so
02:25 Give me Jesus love
02:29 Jesus is all I need
02:34 He's my closest friend when no one seemed to care
02:40 "What matters most,
02:42 and how important is social action
02:45 in bringing about a better world."
02:50 Hello, friend.
02:51 I'm John Carter, here in Australia,
02:54 which is, of course, the place of my birth.
02:57 I'm trying to get back to the United States
03:00 but because of COVID-19,
03:02 the Australian government has sealed the borders.
03:05 So please say a little prayer for me.
03:08 What matters most how important is social activity.
03:15 It's an alarming fact
03:16 that Australia is no longer predominantly
03:19 a believing nation.
03:21 Twenty five years ago,
03:23 75% of Aussies believed in God.
03:28 Today,
03:29 the Australian government tells me
03:31 that number is down to 49%.
03:36 So Christianity apparently is in a state of decline
03:41 in the great land down under.
03:43 And this, of course, once upon a time was a country
03:47 where 100% of the people believed in God,
03:50 and probably 95% of them believed in Jesus Christ.
03:56 But today, only 49% of Aussies
03:59 believe in God.
04:02 So what matters most?
04:06 Social action is that important?
04:08 I'm sure it's important.
04:10 I'm sure changes in society
04:13 are needed and are called for.
04:17 But the question today is a burning question.
04:21 It is a question with great force.
04:25 What really matters?
04:26 What matters most?
04:30 Now the Church of England in Sydney
04:33 has elected our new archbishop.
04:38 He's a gentleman from Sri Lanka.
04:41 His name is Kanishka Raffel from Sri Lanka.
04:46 Once upon a time, he was a Buddhist,
04:49 but somebody gave him a copy of the Gospel of John.
04:54 And he read it through and when he read it through
04:58 he discovered what matters most.
05:03 And he became a believer in Christ.
05:05 And they've elected him as the archbishop
05:08 of the Church of England in Sydney.
05:13 Now, as some of you would know,
05:15 the Great Church of England has got two wings,
05:18 you've got the low church that's Evangelical, and free,
05:24 and believes in the gospel,
05:25 not too much ceremony.
05:27 But then you've got the high church,
05:29 which is, forgive me, very stiff, and starchy,
05:34 and has lots of ceremonies,
05:37 and not a lot of gospel.
05:41 And so he's come into this position
05:42 as archbishop
05:44 of the Great Church of England,
05:46 in the great city of Sydney, in Australia,
05:49 where only 49% of the people now believe in God.
05:54 It's amazing, isn't it?
05:57 And when he gave his opening speech,
05:58 he spoke on what matters most.
06:01 I'm going to read you the speech
06:03 later on in this talk today.
06:07 But going back a long time
06:09 back to 1982.
06:13 That's before most of you folks were born.
06:17 1982, the Carter Report conducted a tremendous,
06:21 glory be to God, evangelistic campaign
06:24 in the great Sydney Opera House.
06:26 It didn't go for five days or five weeks.
06:29 It went for five months, every weekend.
06:33 And we talked about what matters most.
06:36 At that time or just after the lectures
06:39 in the Sydney Opera House,
06:41 I did a television program with Channel Nine in Sydney.
06:46 Now Channel Nine in those days may still be the same,
06:50 was the most prestigious,
06:52 the most influential television station
06:55 in the whole of Australia.
06:58 My special guest was
07:01 the Reverend Fred Nile.
07:06 For 40 years, he's just retired,
07:09 for 40 years,
07:11 Mr. Nile was an advocate for the truth of the Bible,
07:17 and the truth of Christianity.
07:21 He fought same-sex marriage.
07:25 Why?
07:27 Because quite frankly
07:28 he believes in freedom of speech,
07:31 and he believes
07:32 that the Bible doesn't teach it,
07:34 the Bible is against it.
07:37 But if you were to ask the Reverend Fred Nile,
07:40 who was the longest-serving member
07:43 of the New South Wales Parliament,
07:46 what matters most,
07:48 he would not say social action
07:51 or the work of Parliament.
07:53 He would say the preaching of the Gospel of Christ,
07:59 which is the most potent force
08:03 in society.
08:07 "Have you seen the movie Amazing Grace?
08:09 What motivated the main character
08:11 William Wilberforce
08:13 to bring about legislation
08:14 that abolished the slave trade?"
08:19 Well, the story of Wilberforce is a fantastic story.
08:22 Yes, I have seen the movie Amazing Grace,
08:25 I would recommend that
08:26 every person go watch that all go, get the video,
08:30 or download or somehow
08:31 but see the movie, Amazing Grace.
08:35 It's about the abolition of the slave trade.
08:39 It's a fantastic movie.
08:41 And he was a member of the British Parliament.
08:44 And he was a tremendous voice for reason,
08:49 sanity, and truth, and liberty.
08:54 It's interesting how Wilberforce
08:56 became a Christian.
08:58 He was influenced to become a Christian
09:01 and to advocate against the slave trade
09:03 by none other than John Newton.
09:08 Now, John Newton was the man
09:10 who wrote the tremendous hymn Amazing grace,
09:14 how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me.
09:18 Now John Newton had been the captain of a slave ship.
09:22 Did you know this?
09:24 But then he heard the preaching of John Wesley.
09:29 I bless your heart.
09:31 John Wesley was a flame in the hand of Almighty God,
09:35 I'm telling you today.
09:37 He preached 42,000 sermons,
09:40 traveled 360,000 miles on the back of a horse,
09:46 wrote books, preach the gospel,
09:50 and saved England from such a revolution
09:52 as almost destroyed the great land of France,
09:56 the bloody French Revolution
09:58 and so it was through the preaching of John Wesley,
10:03 who founded the Methodist Church,
10:06 that Wilberforce became a Christian
10:09 because it was from Wesley to Newton,
10:12 and then to Wilberforce
10:15 and Wilberforce was burning in his soul,
10:20 because of this infamous iniquitous
10:24 slave trade.
10:25 And he wrote these words, I'm going to see,
10:28 I've got a quote from Wilberforce on slavery,
10:33 my dear friends, listen up.
10:36 The realities of slave transport reveal
10:39 its inhumanity:
10:42 600 to 700 people in tight spaces, beaten,
10:46 abused, and even forced to entertain the crew.
10:51 The death rate is appalling:
10:54 12.5% die in the Atlantic crossing,
10:58 4.5% more die of disease onshore
11:02 before they are sold.
11:05 Upon the whole, however,
11:08 there is a mortality rate of about 50%
11:12 within the first year of being in the New World."
11:20 So Newton who gave us the hymn Amazing Grace
11:24 led Wilberforce to Christ.
11:27 And it was John Wesley,
11:29 his tremendous preaching
11:31 that saved the soul of the old slave trader,
11:34 John Newton.
11:36 And so this whole movement to release the slaves
11:39 was not an atheistic thing.
11:41 It was not something that came from the humanist
11:44 because they've given nothing to the world.
11:48 It was a God thing.
11:50 It came through the preaching
11:52 of the powerful Gospel of Jesus Christ.
11:57 Now I want to tell you something,
11:59 you can have all this social activity
12:01 in the world,
12:03 a lot of that social activity may be very good.
12:06 You can have all
12:07 the political agitation in the world,
12:10 you can preach politics until the cows come home,
12:14 my dear friend,
12:16 but the greatest force for the regeneration
12:19 of the human race is not found in pure politics.
12:23 It is found in the Gospel of Christ
12:27 because the Gospel of Christ
12:29 is what matters most.
12:34 "Should the church and Christians
12:37 be involved in lobbying Washington
12:39 to change society?"
12:43 Congressmen and senators are to vote their conscience.
12:48 Conscience ought to be above party politics.
12:53 Now, a lot of senators and congressmen say today,
12:56 I belong to such and such a party do or die.
13:01 I belong to this wing of the party,
13:04 and therefore I vote what my party says.
13:09 But a Christian, first and foremost,
13:11 now hear me in this, my friend,
13:13 listen up very carefully.
13:15 A Christian first and foremost
13:18 is true to God and true to his conscience.
13:24 And a Christian if he's in the Senate
13:27 or in the Congress,
13:28 or in the New South Wales Parliament
13:31 or the Australian Parliament, in Canberra,
13:35 ought to vote his conscience and be true to God
13:39 and his religious convictions.
13:45 May I remind you,
13:47 that Christians were involved with Dr. Martin Luther King,
13:52 in his march for freedom?
13:55 What a disgrace was slavery.
13:58 And most of the nations of the world
14:00 had been involved in slavery,
14:02 including the African nations.
14:04 You say no, no, no.
14:05 Yes, yes, yes, yes.
14:08 The African nations were a part of the slave trade,
14:11 as well as America and Great Britain,
14:17 and the Muslims and the Roman Catholics.
14:23 It took a man who was converted
14:25 through the great preaching of John Wesley,
14:28 John Newton, and Wilberforce
14:31 to bring down the slave trade in Great Britain.
14:35 Glory be to God.
14:38 And should a Christian be involved in politics?
14:42 If by politics you mean trying to change the world
14:46 by legislation
14:47 that is going to make this world a better place?
14:50 Of course, we want to make this world a better place.
14:54 But today, I'm talking about what matters most
14:58 and I believe
14:59 it is the preaching of the gospel
15:01 as done by John Wesley,
15:02 and John Newton, and Wilberforce,
15:05 and other great preachers.
15:07 I believe it is that preaching that matters most.
15:12 That's what America needs more than anything else.
15:14 That's what Australia needs more than anything else.
15:18 Some would say that the Christian church
15:20 in Australia has largely become a cozy literal club,
15:26 where people go to be entertained,
15:29 or better still to go to sleep.
15:32 But the church is not called to be a cozy social club.
15:37 It is called to be a mighty army.
15:42 But to get back to your question,
15:45 may I tell you that many Christians marched
15:49 with Dr. Martin Luther King.
15:52 And Martin Luther King,
15:54 I want to tell my humanist friends,
15:56 my atheist friends.
15:58 He was not an atheist.
16:00 He was not a humanist.
16:02 Martin Luther King
16:03 was a Baptist preacher.
16:08 You say, "Is it true?"
16:09 I was talking to a person not very long ago,
16:12 who very strongly told me
16:15 that this great civil rights movement was a thing
16:18 that was brought about by the humanists.
16:21 The humanists say, "There's no God
16:23 and man is the center of everything."
16:25 I told her that's absolute balderdash.
16:27 That's nonsense.
16:29 Every great movement to better people,
16:33 lift up women, help children,
16:37 defend the homeless, defend the unborn,
16:42 to release the slaves.
16:45 Every one of those great movements
16:47 has been a movement
16:49 that was led by God through the Holy Scriptures,
16:52 and the preaching of the Gospel of Christ.
16:54 That's a fact.
16:56 It is the truth.
16:58 I was amazed to discover only yesterday
17:00 that in the world today,
17:02 there are still 50 million slaves
17:07 in Africa,
17:09 even slaves
17:10 in the United States of America,
17:13 certainly all through Asia,
17:15 and in China, and other places.
17:19 And the greatest liberator of the slave
17:22 is the preaching of the Gospel of Christ
17:25 may God raise up today,
17:27 I say, for the glory of God,
17:29 John Wesleys, and Martin Luthers,
17:33 and Wilberforces,
17:36 men who will go forth with a flame,
17:41 a flame coming out of their mouths,
17:43 it is a flame of the Gospel of Christ
17:47 because the gospel matters most.
17:52 "Do you believe
17:53 in the union of church and state?
17:55 And what are the consequences of such a union?"
18:00 Thank you, Wayne.
18:01 That is a great question.
18:03 We are delighted to have you
18:05 as our partner in these programs.
18:07 Wayne, thank you.
18:09 Okay, there's a text over here
18:11 in the Book of Revelation Chapter 17.
18:13 I want to read a bit of it to you.
18:16 It's found in the Apocalypse, it says,
18:19 "I'll show you the judgment of the great harlot
18:21 who sits on many waters."
18:23 In Bible prophecy, listen,
18:26 a harlot is the corrupt church.
18:29 There are two churches in the Bible,
18:31 the pure church and the harlot church,
18:36 and says, "The great harlot
18:39 with whom the kings of the earth
18:41 committed fornication,
18:43 the kings of the earth, married the church.
18:47 So he carried me away
18:48 in the Spirit into the wilderness.
18:50 I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast.
18:54 Woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet,
18:57 adorned with gold and precious stones,
19:00 and so forth."
19:02 Revelation Chapter 17,
19:06 dear friend of mine, is a picture of Antichrist.
19:12 Are you listening?
19:15 Antichrist, in its very essence,
19:18 is a union of church and state.
19:21 It is where the church
19:25 dominates the state
19:27 and enforces religious laws.
19:31 You say, "Has this ever happened?"
19:33 Of course, it has.
19:35 Have you not heard
19:38 of the bloody Spanish Inquisition?
19:41 That's when the Church of Rome ruled the world.
19:44 This is just history.
19:45 You can go online,
19:47 you can read about it, my friend.
19:49 Hundreds of thousands of people were tortured,
19:52 and they were put to death.
19:54 That's what happens
19:55 when the church takes control of the power of the state.
19:59 I have people tell me in America all the time,
20:01 isn't going to be wonderful
20:03 when the church is in charge of the government,
20:06 and Jesus is the King of America.
20:11 When Jesus is "king of America,"
20:17 America will have become the Antichrist,
20:21 because the union of church
20:23 and state is the very essence of Antichrist.
20:27 I've been into museums in Europe, in Russia,
20:31 where I've seen the Inquisition set up.
20:35 It's an infernal thing.
20:36 It's a thing that came from the very pit of hell.
20:41 So I don't believe in the union of church and state.
20:43 Having said that, listen,
20:46 I believe that the church
20:47 ought to have a tremendous influence
20:50 in society,
20:51 for the good of society.
20:54 Now, let me read you a statement,
20:56 the First Amendment of the great US Constitution,
21:01 one of the greatest documents ever written in the history
21:04 of the human race.
21:07 It says, "Congress shall make no law respecting
21:12 an establishment of religion,
21:15 or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
21:19 Congress cannot set up a state religion,
21:23 and it can't stop the people
21:24 who are setting up their own religions.
21:27 That's, this is the genius of America.
21:30 Some people would do away with this.
21:32 The humanists would do away with this.
21:35 Foolish people would do away with this.
21:38 It says, "Or abridging the freedom of speech,
21:41 or of the press,
21:43 or the right of the people peaceably to assemble,
21:46 and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
21:50 Now listen to me, my friend.
21:55 This is the genius of America,
21:58 no state church.
22:01 But the state has got no right to try to muzzle the church.
22:07 And if the church comes out and preaches strongly against
22:11 what the government is doing,
22:13 that is the God-given right of that church.
22:18 I believe in freedom of speech.
22:20 I'm a Christian minister.
22:23 I have the right, not from the government,
22:26 but from God, because God made me.
22:31 I'm a child of God.
22:32 I don't believe I think humanists believe
22:35 that I'm something nothing.
22:38 I know where I came from.
22:40 I'm not an accident.
22:41 I'm not a cosmic accident.
22:43 The humanist says that man is simply an accident,
22:47 he came from nothing.
22:49 What absolute nonsense, I say.
22:52 I believe that man came from the hand of God,
22:55 and man has got certain unalienable rights,
23:01 as it says, in the Constitution,
23:03 the right to liberty.
23:06 And I believe in the freedom of speech.
23:08 And I believe that I have the right
23:10 to disagree with the government
23:11 on same-sex marriage, on abortion,
23:14 or anything else because that is my privilege,
23:18 not just as a citizen of the United States
23:20 or of Australia,
23:22 but as a child of God.
23:27 "Is there a better way to change the world
23:30 without politics?"
23:34 Is there a better way to change the world
23:37 without politics?
23:40 Let me say this,
23:42 you can't legislate morality
23:46 and this is what is so frustrating.
23:49 And so people are all the time in Congress,
23:53 fighting to get more laws through to make people better.
23:58 You don't make people better by legislation.
24:02 They say we're going to have legislation
24:04 so that we do away with all racism.
24:08 Well, that's fine.
24:10 That's good. God bless you.
24:12 But let me tell you, folks, something.
24:15 And please listen to me.
24:17 There's something which is far more important
24:19 than legislation.
24:22 And that is changing people's hearts,
24:25 you see.
24:26 It is only the Gospel of Christ
24:28 that can change a person's heart.
24:31 And that is why I believe what matters most
24:34 is the preaching of the Gospel of Christ
24:37 that changes people's hearts.
24:40 Now, I've got some amazing truths to tell you.
24:44 Now listen to this
24:46 because most people don't know this.
24:48 Most people have never studied this.
24:49 Most people are completely ignorant
24:51 of the great facts of history.
24:55 There was a time
24:57 when Europe went down into the Dark Ages.
25:01 They call it the Dark Ages because it was.
25:04 It was a time when the church
25:06 and the state ruled the world together,
25:08 the church dominated the state.
25:10 And the church persecuted people
25:13 and put millions of people to death
25:15 because they were individuals.
25:19 They were dissidents, they thought for themselves,
25:22 I say, hooray for the dissident,
25:26 but then there came the great
25:28 Protestant Reformation.
25:30 People say, "What on earth
25:31 was this Protestant Reformation?"
25:33 Well, there came a man who was sent from God,
25:37 and his name was Martin Luther.
25:39 And he was a great Roman Catholic priest,
25:43 a doctor of theology.
25:44 And as he read his Bible,
25:48 he made some amazing discoveries.
25:53 He discovered that our problem is basically spiritual
25:57 and that we are not saved by the Pope
26:00 and we're not saved by the church,
26:02 but we are saved by Jesus Christ alone.
26:08 This great movement started in Germany
26:12 and then it spread across the channel,
26:15 and went to Great Britain.
26:17 And then it spread around the world.
26:20 And the countries that accepted the teachings
26:23 of the Protestant Reformation
26:25 became the most prosperous countries in the world.
26:29 You say, "Oh no, this is sort of racism."
26:31 No, no, no, it's not racism.
26:33 It's history.
26:35 We're interested in facts in this program.
26:38 We're not interested in opinions.
26:40 You remember Jesus said, you'll know the truth,
26:44 and the truth will make you free.
26:47 And so the countries
26:49 that accepted the truth of freedom,
26:53 the truth of the gospel,
26:56 which says that Christ died for me,
27:00 and I am saved when I give my life to Christ,
27:03 and my soul is not in the hands of the Vatican
27:09 or any other church.
27:11 These people became tremendously liberated.
27:14 Those countries became, there's no question about it,
27:18 they became the most prosperous,
27:20 the most healthy,
27:23 the most amazing countries in the world.
27:27 I can mention them to you, Great Britain or Germany,
27:33 United States of America.
27:35 America is America
27:37 because she accepted the teachings of the Puritans.
27:41 Who were the Puritans?
27:43 The Puritans were Protestants
27:45 who had discovered the truth of the gospel.
27:47 What matters most you'd asked me,
27:49 I will tell you very plainly.
27:51 It is the preaching
27:53 of the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ
27:55 that liberates and saves the soul
27:58 and saves society.
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