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00:10 Hello and welcome once again to Coronavirus Report.
00:13 I'm C.A. Murray, and I'm joined by Pastor Stephen Bohr, 00:17 the principle speaker and the president of Secrets Unsealed. 00:23 Pastor, good to have you here as always. 00:25 We know you've got a lot of questions 00:26 and a lot of things to talk about. 00:28 So good to have you here. 00:30 Amen. Good to be here. 00:31 And our principle resource person happens to also be 00:34 the chairman of our board. 00:35 So he tells us all what to do. 00:37 And that's Dr. Milton Teske. 00:39 Doctor, good to have you here once again. 00:40 It's good to be here. 00:42 As we mentioned some time ago, he is the health office 00:45 for Kings County. 00:47 - Is that correct? - Yes. 00:48 Which is the next county over or two counties over? 00:50 - Next one over. - Next one over, alright. 00:52 And he also works with the CDC and a number of doctors 00:56 and other healthcare practitioners across this state, 00:59 and really across the country. 01:01 They put their heads together and try to do the very best 01:04 they can to keep us healthy and to give us information. 01:08 And that's what this program is all about. 01:10 It is about disseminating information to try to keep 01:13 you healthy if you are healthy, 01:14 try to keep you well if you are well, 01:17 and if you're a little under weather, maybe try to get you 01:19 back on board and back in good shape. 01:21 So that's why we're here. 01:22 We want to have a word of prayer, 01:23 then we're going to launch right out with not too much ado, 01:26 because we've got a lot to talk about 01:28 and a lot of information to share with you. 01:32 Shall we pray? 01:33 Father God, we thank You for Your Word, which is 01:36 a lamp unto our feet and a light unto our path. 01:38 We thank You for the healing processes 01:41 that You have put in our body. 01:42 We thank You for men and women who have dedicated their lives 01:45 to sharing good news, who have joined hands with You 01:49 in the healing ministries and the healing hearts. 01:51 So we ask that you will be with us today, 01:53 make the information clear and give us an understanding 01:56 of what to do and how to do it 01:58 so that we can live the best lives that we can. 02:01 In Jesus' name, amen and amen. 02:04 Pastor, I know you've got a bunch of questions, 02:06 I have one or two, 02:08 so why don't you lead off. 02:10 Okay, Doctor Teske, we who watch television, the news, 02:15 see lots of reports about what's happening in the nation, 02:19 mainly certain epicenters like New York City, Florida, etc., 02:24 but you're the health officer of Kings County. 02:26 Can you tell us basically how things are going, 02:31 not only in Kings County, but also the other adjacent 02:33 counties here in this particular area in the Central Valley? 02:39 Yeah, here we're fortunate. 02:41 We are some distance from the large urban centers, 02:45 and everything is quite a bit delayed coming and getting here. 02:49 The counties all through the Central San Joaquin Valley here 02:55 have very minimal cases compared to some of the 02:58 real hot spots in the country here. 03:00 They are picking up, though, and more and more cases 03:04 are being reported through here. 03:06 Kings County where I am at, we're only five cases so far. 03:11 But we're a very small and small population county, 03:13 very rural, and so you would expect it 03:17 to get to those places later. 03:20 But the real big difference I think we're going to see 03:22 in this country, you know, between places, 03:26 is going to have to do with how well we adhere 03:31 to those public health measures that help us to slow down 03:36 the spread of this disease. 03:39 Because what we find is, those places that did not 03:43 do that up front, and they got infection coming in 03:48 from wherever, it started spreading 03:51 without anything to control it, and they got too many cases, 03:55 and now it's spreading out of control. 03:57 And now it's far enough down the course of the disease 04:00 that the death toll is really starting to rise. 04:04 The ERs and ICUs are overwhelmed, 04:07 they're using all kinds of other facilities 04:10 to be temporary hospitals. 04:13 They're really in big trouble in the big places right there. 04:18 They're now trying to put in, of course, those measures, 04:21 but it's a little bit late. 04:24 But better late than never. 04:25 At least we're trying a little bit. 04:28 Here we sort of have the advantage of time; 04:32 being, it came there first. 04:34 And so, we can start to put in those measures 04:38 before it spreads here. 04:40 And so we have been doing here and throughout California, 04:44 including the Central Valley here, stay at home, 04:47 where we have people just stay in your home unless 04:50 you essentially have to get out to get some food, 04:53 or you're an essential healthcare worker 04:55 or something that we really need you there. 04:58 Stay at home. 05:00 And that's going to make a huge difference. 05:02 When you are out, keep your distance. 05:05 And most recently we have all been adding to that, 05:10 cover your face. 05:12 You know, there's been quite an amount of controversy 05:15 you'll see on wearing masks. 05:17 They started out telling us, "Don't wear masks. 05:20 It won't do any good. 05:21 But we need to save all the masks for the healthcare workers 05:24 because they really do work." 05:26 The bottom line, if you think about it, 05:28 every respiratory illness spreads in the air. 05:33 And when you have an infection, whether it's a common cold 05:38 or the COVID, every time you breathe or cough or sneeze, 05:43 it comes out into the air. 05:46 And if you're near that person, or even a little ways away, 05:52 it's floating there. 05:53 And you have to breathe as well, and you inhale, 05:58 and those microscopic particles that you can't see 06:01 carry those little seeds of death. 06:04 You know, those little... 06:05 And they're going to go in, attach to your 06:08 respiratory epithelium up in the nasal passages 06:12 or even down into the lungs and the tissue there, 06:16 and then they infect a cell. 06:18 And once that cell gets infected, then it 06:20 releases thousands more that infect all cells around them, 06:24 and you're infected. 06:25 You've got the infection going on. 06:27 So wearing a mask, covering the face, 06:30 does a couple of things. 06:31 You know, it's going to help block those particles there. 06:35 None of the masks are perfect. 06:37 You know, our homemade mask maybe even a little bit less so, 06:41 but not necessarily. 06:42 They're all going to give you some degree of protection. 06:46 But most everyone is in agreement, their best thing is 06:49 they're going to keep you from spreading it to someone else. 06:53 They're going to really catch the droplets as they come out 06:56 of you very effectively. 06:58 And most people understand that to be a very effective 07:01 way of stopping the spread. 07:03 One of the first things we do when someone comes in 07:05 the ER or any health facility that's had any kind of symptoms, 07:08 we put a mask on them. 07:10 Because we know that's the best protection, 07:12 is to mask the source. 07:14 And if you just think about it, if everybody wears a mask 07:18 this thing is going to stop spreading because 07:21 we don't know who is infected. 07:23 We used to say 25% of the people were asymptomatic. 07:27 Now as we look at some of the places where they have done 07:29 extensive testing like one of the cruise ships 07:32 and some places like that, suddenly they're realizing 07:34 50% of the people are asymptomatic. 07:38 And so, there is a lot of well people that are 07:42 carrying the virus out there. 07:44 But if every well person put on a mask, 07:47 even if they think they're doing it to protect themselves, 07:51 and the bottom line is, if everybody does it 07:53 we're going to be protected. 07:54 We're going to slow down the spread of this. 07:57 And even if we can't prevent it from hitting here, 08:00 if we slow it down and spread it out, like we talked last time, 08:05 we can, you know, avoid being overwhelmed in the hospitals 08:13 and the death toll going up so rapidly because we don't have 08:16 the resources to save everybody's life, 08:19 we don't have enough ventilators to keep everybody 08:21 breathing that needs one. 08:23 Yeah, doctor, before we leave this, here's a mask. 08:26 ~ Yes. 08:29 Single use? Can we use it several times? 08:32 That question seems to be floating around. 08:34 Have a new one every day? Can we use it two days in a row? 08:37 What's the best policy? 08:39 Yeah, we're realizing that under the circumstances, 08:43 we're going to have to reuse this stuff. 08:44 There's guidelines in the hospitals 08:46 for cleaning and reusing the N95 08:49 even in that high use, high risk situation, 08:52 and out here in the community, yeah, we can reuse them. 08:57 We can use them over. It's better than nothing. 09:00 The cloth ones that people sew up, those you can just 09:04 throw in the laundry every day and, you know, have a clean one. 09:09 Or you can have a couple of them and throw them 09:10 ultimately in the laundry. 09:12 So they can be reused. 09:14 Ideally, you know, in a healthcare setting 09:17 we're going to try to be a lot more careful 09:19 about it because we definitely have viruses going right there. 09:23 And so we're going to be as careful as we possibly can be. 09:26 But even there we're running out of resources in places 09:29 and we've got to make the best with what we can. 09:32 And it seems like even reusing is better than no mask at all. 09:38 Just a little academic question, why is it called, COVID-19? 09:44 ~ COVID-19. 09:46 "Covid," stands for, 09:48 "coronavirus infectious disease." 09:51 And, "19," is because that's the year they first discovered it. 09:56 It sounds like the first case we know of was in November. 10:00 And then in December, it was really spreading through Wuhan 10:03 and spreading out. 10:06 Before we started locking down things here, I think, 10:09 nearly 500,000 Chinese had come to America 10:14 through various ways or whatever. 10:16 So it's spreading around the world. 10:19 And of course, people spreading it everywhere, 10:21 and we see it popping up everywhere now. 10:23 But COVID-19 is the official name is was given. 10:27 You know, in the past we often named them 10:29 by geographic locations. 10:31 Ebola is the name of a river, Marburg there in Africa. 10:34 Many of these diseases are named by their locations. 10:38 But they felt that in today's climate, that would 10:42 be not acceptable and it would be much safer 10:45 to just give that name. 10:47 They didn't even want to name it, you know, after the 10:50 bats or the pangolins or the other things, because, well 10:54 that's not good either. 10:56 So just they gave it some name that couldn't be tied 11:02 to anything else, and figured that was a safe name. 11:04 And so they gave it the official name of COVID-19. 11:08 Following on Pastor Bohr's question, coronavirus, 11:12 the coronavirus' are a family of viruses? 11:15 Give us just a little explanation of that. 11:18 "Corona," actually describes the structure. 11:21 If you look at the pictures of it, they look like a ball 11:24 with little spikes sticking all out of it. 11:26 And when you look under one of these microscopes, 11:29 you sort of see the silhouette of it, and you basically see 11:31 this ring with the little spikes sort of like a crown. 11:34 And so they're called, corona, because 11:36 you look under the microscope and you see 11:38 all these little crown everywhere. 11:40 So it was named the coronavirus. 11:42 Coronavirus is a whole family of viruses. 11:45 They've been around for a long time. 11:47 Most of the coronaviruses cause symptoms 11:49 similar to the common cold. 11:51 Nothing real serious until we came up with SARS, and MERS, 11:57 and now the COVID-19. 12:05 And these, of course, have become much more infective. 12:08 These spike proteins are altered, and they really 12:13 easily infect cells and cause a severe level of disease. 12:19 Well, you know, the ideal of course, would be to find 12:22 a vaccine for COVID. 12:25 ~ That would be great if we had one of those right now. 12:28 I guess that's going to be way down the road. 12:32 So, you know, I've heard about a lot of alternative 12:36 things that would help in this case. 12:39 So if I can mention some of them, maybe you can 12:42 help us understand whether this is really worthwhile or not. 12:47 ~ Sure, yeah, let's talk about some of these alternatives. 12:49 First of all, garlic. 12:51 ~ Garlic. 12:53 Yeah, garlic has been known for its antibiotic, antiviral 13:01 properties for a long time. 13:02 And most anybody you talk to about natural remedies, 13:07 if you've got an infection of some kind, 13:10 let's put garlic on it, or let's eat some garlic, or take garlic. 13:14 Lots of different ways of using garlic because it seems to help. 13:18 And I think... And it probably does. 13:21 I'm all in favor of garlic. 13:24 It tastes great. 13:26 I love food made with lots of garlic in it. 13:30 But I think maybe look back at the underlying principle. 13:35 If you think about it, God has put in our food 13:38 so many things that are really essential for life. 13:43 And not just basically to stay alive, but to keep us healthy, 13:49 and to help us fight disease and help us fight infections. 13:53 And you know, blueberries have, like, over 600 different 14:00 bio-active molecules in them; meaning, molecules of 14:03 all these different bioflavins, and phytochemicals. 14:09 Just all these different substances. 14:13 And they're active. 14:14 They go into cells, and the cells pick them up, 14:16 they stick inside cells and do things there. 14:18 And we don't even know what they all do. 14:20 But we're beginning to learn what a lot of them do. 14:23 And a lot of them interact with the body's immune system 14:27 in ways that really enhances it, allows it to function better. 14:31 And garlic, I mentioned blueberries have 600, 14:34 garlic have over 900 of these bio-active substances 14:38 of some kind in there. 14:40 Some of them we know what they do. 14:41 Most of them we don't know what they do, 14:44 but they seem to go into cells. 14:45 And I'm sure God put them there for some reason. 14:49 And just because we don't totally understand it 14:53 doesn't mean that it's not important. 14:56 Every little piece of importance helps. 14:58 I mean, there's one thing that correlates with health 15:01 of all kinds; and that is a diet that's almost entirely 15:06 of fruits, vegetables. 15:08 In other words, food the way God made it. 15:10 And you can pick out one piece like the garlic, 15:13 and wow, this really works great. 15:16 But it probably all works really great. 15:19 And I think the most important thing is that we go for 15:22 the whole thing, you know. 15:24 Live on the food the way God made it. 15:26 But garlic, I've heard only good stuff about it. 15:29 It's certainly not going to hurt anything. 15:32 Use it. 15:33 Can you overdose on vitamin C? 15:36 Vitamin C is very interesting. 15:38 We know that vitamin C is anti-viral in its properties. 15:42 It's really good for fighting infections. 15:45 You come down with infections, load up on the vitamin C. 15:49 Vitamin C is water soluble. 15:53 And so, if you take and say, "Wow, man, I feel like 15:56 I'm coming down with something," and you take, you know, 15:59 three or four or five grams of vitamin C, 16:03 it's water soluble, and it all comes out in the urine 16:06 over the next few hours. 16:09 And you can take it again in a few hours, 16:10 and it'll come out again. 16:12 And you can take it all again. 16:13 So you're not really hurting the body by taking extra vitamin C. 16:18 Does extra vitamin C of the really high mega doses 16:21 make a difference? 16:23 There's a lot of different opinions in there. 16:25 Certainly if you're not on a diet of fruits and vegetables, 16:29 you're running very low on vitamin C. 16:32 And there's a lot of evidence that suggests that 16:36 more vitamin C than most people get is probably the ideal. 16:40 You know, we're not living continuously on fruits 16:44 and stuff that are so high in vitamin C, 16:46 and so our vitamin C is probably a lot lower than would be ideal. 16:50 And particularly since we know it, you know, has properties 16:54 that help us fight infections. 16:56 You know, at this time when there's viruses around 16:59 we want our immune systems on optimum. 17:01 You know, using some extra vitamin C 17:03 is probably quite reasonable. 17:05 And certainly, if you're one of those at home 17:09 with, you know, no access to any other therapies 17:13 or treatments, taking vitamin C would be quite valuable 17:18 in helping to fight this. 17:20 And it's certainly not going to hurt you. 17:22 You know, it's easily cleared by the kidneys in the urine. 17:26 So, yeah, take the vitamin C. 17:28 ~ What about zinc? 17:32 Yeah, zinc. 17:33 Zinc is an element, a trace element. 17:37 The body needs zinc. 17:39 And many of the various enzymes or proteins that function in the 17:45 body's immune system require zinc. 17:49 Now a protein, an enzyme, some functioning protein 17:52 that's doing a certain job needs zinc or manganese. 17:57 Whatever it needs there. 17:59 It needs it to function. 18:00 And if you don't have that piece in there, 18:03 the tool is useless. 18:04 It has no function at all without that key piece in there. 18:07 So if you've got an enzyme that needs zinc, 18:10 and you don't have it in there... 18:12 Well there's hundreds of different ones in the body 18:13 that need zinc. 18:15 And many of the key ones in the body's immune system needs zinc. 18:19 In the U.S. population in general, about 25% 18:24 are deficient in zinc. 18:27 And they're going to be deficient in all of these 18:29 functions because they're deficient in zinc. 18:32 And interestingly, when we look at it, frequently we find 18:35 that vegetarians and vegans may be deficient in zinc? 18:40 And so, adding a trace element supplement that has zinc in it 18:44 would certainly be a reasonable thing to do. 18:47 And you know, many people are saying, 18:50 "Oh yeah, I take zinc and I got better." 18:51 Well, it's probably because now everything was working better 18:54 that wasn't working before because you were actually 18:56 running deficient in zinc. 18:58 And so, yeah, making sure you're up on the zinc by taking 19:02 a trace element supplement. 19:03 Now I would say about zinc, or any of the other elements, 19:07 you know, supplements, the right amount is the right amount. 19:13 And I would follow the instructions 19:15 for the dosing and stuff. 19:17 It's not like vitamin C; if some is good, more is better. 19:21 No. Most of these, whether it's zinc, or copper, or manganese, 19:25 or whatever, you can be deficient, and then you can 19:28 have the right amount, or you can become toxic. 19:31 And many of these things will become toxic in higher doses. 19:34 And so, don't take extra. 19:37 Take the recommended amount on the various supplements 19:40 that you're looking at. 19:42 I want to return just for a moment to vitamin C, 19:45 and maybe some of these other things also. 19:49 What do you recommend? 19:50 And my question is, is the supplement a tablet or the pill 19:55 or the gel cap equal to getting it from... 19:59 I mean, in California we have an abundance of oranges, 20:01 we have an abundance of lemons, we have an abundance of 20:04 a number of things, including leafy greens that you can get 20:08 vitamin C from. 20:09 If you're out in Iowa or some place in the 20:12 middle of the country and can't get access to the store, 20:15 you may not be able to grab fresh fruit very easily. 20:20 How effective is it in a supplemental form 20:23 vis-à-vis the natural form off the tree, off the vine? 20:28 Many people have found that it's very effective 20:31 to go ahead and take the supplements 20:33 whether you're getting the powder or whether you're taking 20:35 it in pills or capsules. 20:37 Obviously, when God made oranges, He put in not only 20:41 vitamin C, but hundreds of other things that you need too. 20:45 So again, I'm always partial to the way God packaged it 20:48 rather than the way some pharmaceutical 20:51 company packaged it. 20:52 But to the degree that, hey, you're not living on 20:57 orange juice, you know, then yeah, go ahead and 21:01 use the supplements. 21:04 They're using it, some people in China, they've been using 21:07 the IV vitamin C quite extensively very favorably 21:12 in the results they're reporting in that. 21:15 Their staff, they have them all on the oral vitamin C 21:18 trying to help protect them. 21:20 So, you know, it's got a role there. 21:23 Here in this country, most of our health establishment 21:27 is very anti IV vitamin C. 21:32 You know, if you can find a doctor or a system that will 21:34 give it to you, that's probably good if you're quite sick. 21:37 On the other hand, don't be surprised if they are not 21:41 planning on treating you with that. 21:45 But another thing, you know, when we talk about 21:47 the advantage of IV vitamin C where they put really high doses 21:51 in the IV and run it right in, 21:53 it's supposed to work really good, 21:55 vitamin C is very well absorbed orally. 21:59 Unless you're intubated on a ventilator and there's no way 22:02 you can take anything by mouth, a high dose of oral vitamin C 22:07 is still going to be very readily absorbed. 22:11 It's going to go right into the bloodstream. 22:12 It's going to circulate in the blood the same 22:14 as the IV vitamin C. 22:16 And like the IV vitamin C, it will be cleared in the urine 22:19 and disappear from the body and you'll need another dose, 22:23 you know, in another 4 to 6 hours. 22:25 You know, I have on my desk two bottles that were 22:30 sent to me by someone. 22:32 The bottles contain iodine. 22:35 And it comes with a dropper. 22:38 It says, "Put a drop of iodine on your tongue, 22:41 and that will be helpful in preventing 22:43 you getting the coronavirus." 22:46 Is... 22:49 It's true, iodine kills germs, bacteria, viruses. 22:56 In the hospital we use a substance called Betadine. 22:59 It's an iodine solution, and we use it to sterilize 23:02 skin before surgery. 23:05 We put it on different instruments to sterilize 23:08 and clean them. 23:09 We put it in certain soaps to clean things. 23:12 So yeah, iodine kills things. 23:14 How effective putting it on your tongue is? 23:17 Well what if you breathe in the germ through your nose? 23:21 - I guess you'll have to put some in your nose. 23:24 You don't want to take, you know, overload on iodine 23:27 and get too much in there, again, you know. 23:30 So I'm not real excited about those, 23:34 but it's true that iodine kills germs. 23:37 If you've got a germ on your tongue and you put the 23:38 iodine on it, it will kill that germ on your tongue. 23:43 I think the more systemic and things of general health 23:49 principles are probably much more important. 23:51 Stay hydrated, drink lots of water, fresh air and sunlight, 23:57 a simple diet and staying away from junk food 24:00 is probably your best defense. 24:03 You know, it's often when we find a substance, 24:06 whether it's iodine or whatever, some little thing, 24:09 we look at it, "Oh, I've got this, and now I'm safe." 24:12 And then it's sort of like we did that instead of 24:15 all of the other stuff we should have been doing. 24:17 And that's such a mistake when we make 24:19 that transition, you know. 24:21 You know, in Latin America, of course I grew up down there, 24:27 lemon or lime cures everything. 24:32 Are lemons and limes good mainly for the vitamin C 24:36 or do they have other properties that are beneficial 24:40 that you would not, for example, find in an orange? 24:44 As far as I know, they're very high in vitamin C, 24:47 like the other citrus. 24:49 And like the other citrus, they have all of those 24:52 other substances in them that are beneficial. 24:55 And whether a lemon has something that an orange didn't, 24:58 or a grapefruit or a pomelo, generally my approach has been 25:05 we don't usually know for sure that stuff. 25:07 And a variety is always better than a mono-diet, you know. 25:14 Living just on lemons or just on this. 25:17 Lemons, you know, throughout history have had a place 25:20 in the medicine cabinets, and particularly in places... 25:26 You know, it's like they're a magic cure for so many things. 25:29 I mean, if you go back a century or two, the British 25:33 became known as limeys because somebody discovered 25:37 that scurvy, which plagued all of the ships at sea... 25:41 You go out there at sea so much without any fresh fruits 25:45 that people got scurvy. 25:46 And somebody figured out, oh the substance in these 25:49 limes, if you just... 25:50 And they would start packing limes, and every sailor 25:53 had to have half a lime every day. 25:55 And suddenly nobody on the British ships got scurvy. 25:58 So yeah, that was a magic pill there. 26:01 And again, the more deficient we become in things, 26:06 the more magical a single piece of something God made 26:11 is really good for us. 26:13 While we're on the... I'm sorry, pastor. 26:15 I want to mine this just a little bit. 26:17 Because when we think about vitamin C, 26:19 we naturally think citrus. 26:21 But aren't leafy greens a fairly decent source of vitamin C also? 26:26 Oh yes, and as a matter of fact, when we're talking about 26:28 the immune system, it's not just vitamin C. 26:32 There are so many other vitamins in there. 26:35 The basic vitamins, you know, that we need that are 26:38 found in there. 26:39 And beyond that, again, there's a whole other range 26:42 of these various phytochemicals that are found in the greens 26:47 that aren't in some of the fruits right there. 26:51 Someday when we've got a couple of hours 26:53 we'll go over those lectures on greens. 26:55 And there are so many things found in greens. 26:59 You know, when Adam and Eve left the Garden of Eden, 27:02 one of the things that God gave them right that first day 27:06 as they left was, eat the greens. 27:09 You're going to need these greens now. 27:11 And don't forget that. 27:15 It was so important that He added it right at 27:17 the very beginning. 27:19 Not down the road, but right there at the beginning. 27:21 He says, "You guys got to eat the greens now." 27:23 And it's still true. Eat your greens. 27:26 ~ That's right. Good. 27:27 Well, time has almost run out, C.A. 27:29 Yeah, I didn't see the clock. 27:31 You have a better angle on it. 27:33 But it goes away very, very fast. 27:35 And maybe when next we meet we can talk a little bit 27:39 more about lifestyle. 27:40 Which we intended to get into this program, but sometimes 27:43 other things kind of jump in there 27:44 and you don't get a chance to cover it all. 27:46 You want to close with a text. Do we have time to do that? 27:48 Well, I don't think we have time. 27:50 So why don't you just wind it down. 27:52 Okay. 27:54 Well again, hopefully this program has been of value to you, 27:59 it has said something that can help you and allow you to 28:04 prepare yourself and fortify yourself, 28:08 and help those that you love also 28:10 to do the very best that we can to stay healthy 28:12 and to stay on the Lord's side. |
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