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00:12 Hello, and welcome to Coronavirus Report.
00:15 We're here with Pastor Stephen Bohr, the president and speaker 00:19 for Secrets Unsealed, 00:21 and our chief resource person, Dr. Milton Teske, who is 00:25 our board chair and who is the health officer 00:27 for Kings County and has many connections with 00:30 the CDC and other organizations that sort of keeps him on the 00:34 front edge of the information. 00:36 And that's what we're here to give you. 00:38 And I'm C. A. Murray. 00:39 We're glad to have you with us, and hopefully today we can 00:41 inform you and help you to stay healthy and free of 00:46 the virus, and let you know how you can 00:49 walk your way through and do well during these troublous 00:53 times that create so much mental and physical stress 00:57 on all of us as we're trying to stay healthy 00:59 and trying to stay well and do our jobs. 01:01 Gentlemen, good to have you here. 01:02 Good to be here. 01:04 And, Pastor, we'll let you lead off 01:06 because I know you've got a lot to say. 01:08 I've got a list of questions here. 01:09 And then the good doctor came with an arm load of information. 01:14 - Too much for one program. ~ Indeed. 01:17 Okay, I just want to start, Dr. Teske, by asking 01:21 about the percentage of individuals that have had to 01:25 go to the hospital and have been on respirators. 01:29 About pre-existing conditions. 01:31 Is the greater proportion of people who are going 01:33 to the hospital and on respirators, is it because 01:37 they have pre-existing conditions? 01:38 And how does that impact? 01:40 Yeah, if we look at it, we just got the statistics 01:42 out of New York recently. 01:44 And in New York, 92% of those hospitalized 01:49 also had obesity, or diabetes, or hypertension, 01:54 or coronary artery disease, or some of these other 01:57 what we would call metabolic syndrome type diseases as well. 02:01 And so, it's the thinking, as you add these on top of that, 02:06 then we're going to really get in trouble. 02:08 So how does it work physiologically? 02:10 Is it because the immune system is weak, 02:14 that the virus is able to do more with people 02:17 who have pre-existing conditions? 02:19 Last time, we talked a lot about the immune system, 02:22 and that's certainly a role in there. 02:24 But there's something new that's coming out now 02:27 that's showing up in what's going on here. 02:30 Doctors everywhere are starting to realize 02:34 that these COVID patients have problems forming blood clots. 02:39 They're making clots when they shouldn't. 02:42 They're making clots in the arteries 02:43 where there's not supposed to be. 02:45 You may have seen just this week on the news that 02:47 there's a whole slew that realize otherwise young healthy 02:51 people were getting strokes. 02:54 Well, what are strokes? 02:55 A stroke is a blood clot that is formed in the brain, 02:58 and block the brain, and now you've got a stroke. 03:04 And we're seeing that, surprisingly, even in 03:08 young people which didn't have underlying artery type disease. 03:12 ~ More than usual? 03:14 Oh yes, yes. 03:16 One of the persons said their number of stroke patients 03:20 has doubled than they would typically have. 03:24 You know, normally we always have people that are getting 03:26 strokes because they've got bad arteries and stuff. 03:29 It's one of the things that happens here in America. 03:33 But now we're getting twice that many. 03:37 And among them are something that we very rarely see, 03:41 which is young people with strokes. 03:43 Usually people, I think the mean age, the medium for 03:47 strokes is around 72. 03:50 So, you know, half your people are over 72, half under. 03:52 But that's sort of the middle of the pack where you 03:54 see people with strokes. 03:56 And now we're seeing 30 year olds with strokes, 04:00 40 year olds with strokes, 50 year olds with strokes. 04:03 And so, the virus is causing... 04:07 We don't understand totally exactly what it's doing, 04:10 but it has to do something with the endothelium, 04:14 the artery wall, and it's breaking down and it's forming 04:16 blood clots in there. 04:19 Now if you think about it, this is sort of the opposite 04:21 of some of our more other recent ones. 04:24 Ebola was a really bad, you know, thing going around, 04:27 and it had the opposite. 04:29 We call it a hemorrhagic fever. 04:31 Because it caused blood not to clot 04:34 and people would start bleed out of everywhere. 04:36 Well this is the opposite one. 04:39 So the doctors are realizing now that they start 04:42 anticoagulants fairly early in these patients. 04:46 And they will move on to the various, you know, 04:52 clot dissolving drugs for strokes. 04:57 And by the way, any of you who are, you know, watching this 05:00 and have someone that you know, 05:04 or you start to get what might be a symptom of a stroke, 05:08 don't put it off or ignore it. 05:11 You know, what are the symptoms? 05:13 Well, you get numbness or deadness, you know, 05:15 in one side, or one arm, or one spot. 05:18 Or you get some paralysis or sudden weakness in, you know, 05:22 one side or one part of the body. 05:24 Or loss of speech, or the speech becomes slurred. 05:28 You know, these type of things that would be warning signs 05:31 for a stroke, you want to immediately, you know, call 911, 05:35 get into a hospital emergency room. 05:38 Ideally, in a hospital that specializes in 05:42 some type of stroke care. 05:45 Most hospitals now are starting, or at least many are 05:48 starting to develop, they have code stroke. 05:51 And if you come in with the symptoms of a stroke, 05:53 immediately you go straight to the CT scanner, 05:56 they scan to make sure it's not bleeding. 05:58 Because we can't give these drugs if you're bleeding. 06:00 We would make it worse, and you would bleed out. 06:02 And that's usually fatal. 06:03 So that's the first thing that will happen. 06:05 And then, even before you get your vital signs 06:08 they're going to scan you. 06:10 And then they do the other preliminary stuff, 06:12 so that very quickly we've got enough information 06:15 to go ahead and say we can use TPA. 06:19 It's a substance drug that we will run in the IV, 06:24 and it will cause clots to dissolve. 06:28 And if we get this very early on, frequently we can dissolve 06:32 that blood clot and open it up and allow the blood flow 06:36 to return so you don't get a permanent deficit, 06:38 a permanent stroke from this. 06:41 And in centers that have the ability, they can go in with, 06:45 interventional radiologists go in with a catheter, 06:48 they up through the arteries, 06:51 and they go right up into the brain. 06:53 And if it's a large clot blocking off one of the 06:56 main arteries... 06:57 And by the way, many of these we are seeing in young people 07:00 are big vessel disease. 07:02 The middle carotid artery is clotted off 07:06 and a whole half of the body is paralyzed 07:09 and you can't talk type of thing. 07:11 But they can go up, and on the end of this catheter 07:14 they've got something that's a little bit like a 07:16 cork screw in a cork. 07:17 And they can thread this in and attach it into the 07:21 center of that blood clot, and then they can gently 07:25 extract and pull it back put, and back it back out of the 07:29 area where it was clogged up there, and open that up. 07:34 They are doing those if within three hours, 07:38 and we get excellent results. 07:39 They may do them within six hours. 07:42 I think the cutoff is around 24 hours. 07:44 By then it's really too late to do anything. 07:46 Now, doc, you say excellent results. 07:49 The effects of the stroke can be reversed? 07:51 Or they're not doing that much damage initially, 07:54 or they can actually reverse the effects? 07:56 No. In other words, when the stroke forms, 07:58 then suddenly things don't work because there's no blood 08:01 going to those cells. 08:03 But now if I pull the clot out and blood starts flowing 08:07 back there, well the cells aren't dead yet. 08:11 And they can come back to life. 08:14 Now the longer we wait, the worse the damage. 08:18 And the farther we move down that road, 08:20 we're less and less likely to get as much back. 08:23 So, you know, if you should get stroke symptoms, 08:27 or someone you know is getting stroke symptoms, 08:30 immediately get them into one of the centers so this can be... 08:33 Don't wait and say, "Well, I think it will go away. 08:35 It's probably nothing." 08:36 No, go in now and let's find out. 08:38 Because it can also expand. 08:41 One of the doctors was describing, he was 08:43 going in with one of these to... 08:44 You know, they can watch it on the screen right here. 08:46 They can see where the clot is and where the blood vessels are. 08:51 And while they were extracting this clot, 08:53 they're seeing a little clot form over here. 08:55 And another one form over here. 08:57 And apparently this clotting is going on 09:01 in multiple places at the same time. 09:04 Some smaller, some less, some bigger. 09:07 But it's a really serious problem there. 09:09 Just a follow-up question. 09:11 I know C.A. has lots of questions, but I've heard 09:17 through the grapevine that the 5G network 09:20 might have something to do with it. 09:23 Is there any truth to that? 09:24 Well, we all know that electromagnetic radiation 09:28 is not good for the human body. 09:30 And lots of radiation is worse. 09:33 And of course, the 5G is really, really 09:37 more radiation that's being put on the human body. 09:41 And it does damage cells, and it can cause problems there. 09:45 So I think if we add that on top of all of these 09:49 other pre-existing conditions, and now we've got a virus 09:53 in there, it probably can contribute to it. 09:56 I don't quite go all the way as some theories, you know. 10:01 Some of them maybe would call them conspiracy theories, 10:03 that say, "Oh, this is all just caused by 5G. 10:06 It's not really a viral problem at all. 10:08 It's not a virus. It's..." 10:09 I think we've got a real viral problem. 10:12 I mean, we know what it's doing to the T lymphocytes. 10:15 And now we're finding what it's doing to the 10:17 clotting mechanisms there. 10:19 You know, in addition to the other viral destruction 10:22 it's doing in lung tissue and stuff. 10:24 So I think we've got a very real viral problem 10:26 with or without the 5G. 10:28 But 5G definitely won't make it better, you know. 10:34 More electromagnetic radiation is going to be bad for us 10:37 all the way around. 10:39 You know, they put 5G in the big cities because 10:43 you have to have, it's a short range, so you have to have 10:46 these high intense towers. 10:48 But you have to have a lot of them real close. 10:50 They put those in the big cities. 10:52 They don't put them out in the smaller towns 10:53 and villages and countryside. 10:55 They use the other cell phone range. 10:57 And probably will permanently. 10:59 You're not going to get 5G out in the country ever. 11:02 Nobody is going to take the trouble to put 11:03 that many towers out there. 11:06 But then again, we've been advised to get out of the cities 11:10 and live in country places. 11:13 You know, there may be some electromagnetic reasons 11:17 for doing that, as well as social reasons 11:20 due to the environment in the city there. 11:22 - We might have to get some satellite internet. 11:25 Yeah. 11:27 Yep. 11:28 Yep, I can tell you, living in the country, 11:30 getting good internet speeds is difficult. 11:33 - Yeah. - Difficult. 11:35 But you know, going back to this clotting here, 11:39 we're realizing that it explains a lot of 11:42 the other things as well. 11:43 Now we started off with our understanding 11:46 of this coronavirus as being a respiratory virus. 11:50 And people become hypoxic, their lungs fill up with these 11:54 what they call, ground-glass opacities. 11:56 That's the way they look on a CT scan. 11:59 And that became a real classic finding, 12:01 this CT scan with all of these spots of whited out lung. 12:07 The hypoxia and respiratory failure, 12:09 and we try to put people on ventilators to keep them alive, 12:13 and they still would get worse and die. 12:15 And some of it is just straight pneumonia 12:19 because the virus is attacking that respiratory epithelium 12:23 and causing it to break down. 12:25 But interestingly, what we're beginning to realize now, 12:30 that much of what we've been seeing going on 12:33 in the lungs, and the CT scans, and the hypoxia, and stuff 12:37 is not really pneumonia as it is pulmonary emboli. 12:44 In other words, these little blood clots 12:47 that are forming on artery walls and jamming and clogging up 12:52 things, if you block up the blood vessels in the lung, 12:56 a few little ones or maybe some bigger ones, or whatever, 12:59 but as you block up little vessels out there, what happens? 13:03 Well, even if you're breathing air through that part of 13:06 the lung, if blood is not flowing through it, 13:10 then you're not oxygenating blood 13:12 and you start to get less and less oxygen out of each breath 13:16 because you're only passing a little bit of blood through 13:18 part of the lung. 13:20 And so, hypoxia. 13:22 Which is one of the key findings. 13:25 And interestingly, one of the things that the ICU doctors 13:29 tell us about what's going on in these ventilator patients is 13:34 they're different than typical pneumonia patients 13:38 and how they respond on the ventilator. 13:41 Pneumonia patients, as your lungs fill up with 13:43 pneumonia fluid, the ventilator has got to work 13:46 harder and harder to try to force more air 13:49 into those fluid-filled lungs. 13:51 We call it, lung compliance. 13:53 We've got to work harder and harder, 13:55 the lung just doesn't freely expand, 13:57 and we can't just move it with the air. 14:00 What they're finding with this coronavirus 14:02 is many of them have real good lung compliance. 14:05 In other words, it's like very low pressures 14:08 and the lungs ventilate just fine. 14:09 We're moving air really good. 14:12 The problem isn't with moving air. 14:16 The problem is the blood flow. 14:21 The clots. 14:22 The emboli from this clotting mechanism 14:25 where the blood is clotting where it shouldn't 14:28 and when it shouldn't in there. 14:29 And as we clot up those spots, the more and more you clot up, 14:34 the more hypoxic you will become. 14:36 And in spite of all the ventilation, 14:38 you're not going to survive. 14:40 I saw one statistic that said those that ended up 14:44 on a ventilator, 88% of them did not survive. 14:49 ~ Wow! ~ Wow. 14:51 That was at one hospital, I forget now which one that was. 14:53 But, you know, that type of numbers, you realize 14:56 something really bad is going on there. 14:59 And it's appearing that it is in the blood vessel walls. 15:04 Now if you put that together with what we mentioned earlier 15:08 about pre-existing conditions, you know; 15:12 obesity, diabetes, heart disease, 15:16 high blood pressure, all of these typical 15:19 we would call them western lifestyle diseases 15:23 that comes from eating like we eat here in America. 15:28 One thing all of these have in common is that these disease 15:32 processes affect blood vessel walls. 15:36 The wall of our artery has a very special little layer 15:41 on their called glycocalyx that protects the surface of it. 15:46 And this glycocalyx has in it special things 15:51 that prevent blood clotting. 15:54 Because ideally, we want the blood to flow really nice 15:57 through our arteries and we don't want it to clot. 15:59 And so, all these things are built-in there to help prevent 16:03 clots forming when they shouldn't, so we can 16:05 keep the blood flowing really good through there. 16:08 But one thing these diseases have in common 16:11 is they break down that glycocalyx. 16:13 We spent a whole hour on that in one of those 16:16 other lectures, you know. 16:18 The glycocalyx will break down like in diabetes 16:24 because the sugar will break down that glycocalyx. 16:27 And as we break that down, now it's very easy 16:30 to form a blood clot on there. 16:32 Because all of these things that would have protected it 16:34 and prevented it are stripped away and they're gone. 16:38 Arteriosclerosis that causes high blood pressure 16:41 and that causes, you know, the heart attacks and things 16:46 where we build up these cholesterol plaques, 16:48 you break down the glycocalyx and it allows these to form. 16:52 And so, if we're developing those, then we've probably 16:55 got a bad glycocalyx and we're probably set up for that. 17:00 And the glycocalyx also helps, it actually becomes... 17:05 It's like a little, with each pulse of blood, this glycocalyx 17:09 sort of moves, sort of almost like seaweed with the surf 17:13 as it goes back and forth in the waves. 17:15 With each pulse of blood, as that moves, 17:18 the base of the glycocalyx is actually hooked up 17:21 to the enzymes that make nitric oxide. 17:26 Now nitric oxide is real important to be made there 17:29 because nitric oxide's job is to relax artery walls. 17:35 It's sort of the counterbalance to adrenaline which comes 17:38 through the nerves which says constrict. 17:40 Because we're always constricting or relaxing 17:42 to control the blood flow through our body. 17:44 And so, it's the adrenaline that's coming through 17:48 or circulating from stress in our body 17:51 that causes constriction. 17:53 But then we balance that, as you let up on that, 17:56 and the nitric oxide will relax it back up. 17:59 But now we strip the glycocalyx off and we can't do that, 18:02 and it's a major contributor to high blood pressure. 18:05 Again, all of these different metabolic diseases 18:08 seem to affect the artery walls that we've got in common, 18:11 that we are destroying some real protective mechanism there. 18:17 So we've got that, and now we add a COVID virus 18:21 that in some way attacks that artery wall. 18:25 We're wide open to that attack and we're not going to be safe 18:28 from it, and we're, you know, likely to go on with 18:33 more serious complications. 18:35 I mean, why is it that age seems to be one of the factors? 18:40 Because in America as people get older, 18:42 they get worse and worse arteries. 18:45 It's pretty much almost universal in the United States. 18:48 But, you know, the good news is that we know how to 18:53 prevent that problem. 18:57 You know, we can restore that glycocalyx 19:02 with a healthy diet. 19:05 Three things really that we know destroy the glycocalyx. 19:09 Number one is smoking. 19:11 You know, if you're a smoker, you've wiped out your 19:14 glycocalyx and you're at really high risk. 19:18 Sugar and oxidized fat. 19:22 So fried foods, high sugar foods, and smoking are the 19:27 really big things that wipe that out. 19:31 But if you look at everything we know about high blood pressure, 19:35 about heart disease, about type two diabetes, 19:39 you know, we're talking about simple lifestyle things. 19:44 The same things we always talk about: 19:46 a whole plant food diet, not eating a lot of sugar, 19:52 or fat, or all of this stuff; 19:54 and then you have a healthy body, a healthy thing, 19:58 and you'll be set up to be protected from this. 20:01 And you know, God has given us the health message for a reason. 20:09 You know, He's promised to protect us from these plagues. 20:12 But that protection comes in the context of obedience 20:15 to His Word. 20:17 And in His Word, He told us all of these various things 20:21 that make for good health. 20:24 And the most simple one is come back and eat fruits 20:27 and vegetables, and all of that stuff. 20:30 And we'll be protected from those things in that way. 20:35 It looks as though we want to just find a pill or something 20:40 that will allow us to continue our lifestyle, 20:43 yet fight for us so we don't have to fight, 20:46 and rid us of this plague, but we can go on 20:50 killing ourselves basically with our knife and fork. 20:52 ~ Yeah. I mean, if you just listen to the news. 20:54 Everybody wants a pill and a test for the COVID. 20:58 They want the test to know one thing, and they want the, 21:02 you know, various pill or a vaccine to prevent it 21:05 and save us from it. 21:08 I think, you know, we're not going to get there 21:12 with a vaccine as much as we had hoped. 21:15 There's new strains out there. 21:17 And as there's multiple strains, well now, how do you get 21:20 one vaccine to work for all the various strains 21:24 as this starts to, you know, divide up into various 21:28 different strains going around? 21:30 So I think we're going to find a lot less protection out there. 21:35 One of the things, you know, every week you come, 21:37 you bring us new information. 21:39 And you know, we're learning, we're learning, we're learning. 21:43 I think one of the things that we can safely say is, 21:45 if you have a weakness, if you look at this as a battle 21:48 between two armies, this virus is very opportunistic. 21:52 And if you have left a door open, or a gate open, 21:55 or something ajar, it's going to find that 21:58 and then make its entrance through that. 22:00 And of course, if your lifestyle is such that 22:02 it's tearing holes in your armor, as it were, 22:06 it's going to find that weakness and exploit that weakness. 22:09 It seems like it's very, very opportunistic. 22:11 And whatever you've got that's pulling you down, 22:14 it's going to find it and make opportunity from it. 22:17 Yeah, I think that's exactly what we're seeing. 22:19 I mean, if you look at who gets sick, 22:21 it's those which we know have lots of holes in their armor 22:26 from the various other disease processes out there. 22:31 Another thing that's been in the news a lot this week 22:33 is the serology testing. 22:38 This testing for antibodies. 22:43 And, well, if we get antibodies, then we'll know 22:49 who's already safe because they've got 22:52 the safe antibodies there. 22:54 And if we could just do it... 22:57 The CDC and everything is coming out, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 23:01 Yeah, we've got all these tests to tell if you've got antibodies 23:03 but we don't know if that's going to 23:05 give you immunity or not. 23:06 So we don't know if you can use that test." 23:07 So they're not letting anybody use that test yet. 23:09 They're doing it for some population studies, 23:12 but they're not really letting the test out there. 23:14 Eventually it's going to get out in some form or way. 23:18 But the interesting thing is, this same test they said, 23:22 "Well, we can't really tell, you know, who's safe 23:29 or who's not by this test. 23:31 And we probably won't ever be able to tell." 23:33 Yeah, it was in the same little speech there that they said 23:38 we're going to have to wait to get a vaccine. 23:42 But now, if they're saying that being exposed 23:45 to and being infected with the coronavirus 23:48 doesn't give you adequate immunity, 23:51 which is usually the normal thing, we've already got, 23:54 so to speak, the best vaccine, 23:55 you've got the whole live virus vaccine, 24:00 "Oh, but we can't tell, you know, we don't know 24:02 if you're safe after that," how are they going to 24:05 come up with a vaccine which is going to be based on 24:07 pieces and parts of the virus there down the road, 24:10 and you know, injected with other things 24:12 that flare-up the immune system to protect you? 24:16 So they're really saying two different things right here. 24:20 You know, in the news today, a lot of times 24:23 the truth behind what it is, or what is the other agenda, 24:27 what's the other motivation, what's the other, you know? 24:30 We see tremendous pressure towards, "Vaccine, vaccine. 24:34 Get these vaccines. We're going to do this." 24:37 I'm not sure those are always in the best interest. 24:41 I'm not anti-vaccines. 24:43 We've eliminated small pox from the world with a vaccine. 24:47 We've really almost completely eliminated polio. 24:51 Although, we're getting some flare-ups now in places 24:54 with some actually vaccine related things with polio. 24:57 We've really reduced, you know... 24:59 It used to be, you know, people were afraid to go out 25:03 and let their kids go out to the swimming pool 25:05 because so many kids would get paralyzed from 25:07 picking up the polio virus. 25:09 We don't see that anymore. Nobody even thinks about it. 25:11 It's sort of passed from our consciousness because 25:14 polio has been eliminated with the polio vaccine 25:18 here at least in the United States 25:20 and through most of the world. 25:22 So I'm not sure what the future is going to show on this one. 25:26 We're all learning and discovering where this 25:29 coronavirus is going. 25:31 But with time, and being more skeptical about, 25:35 you know, coming up with an ideal vaccine solution here. 25:40 Well, as they say, an announce of prevention is better 25:45 than a pound of cure. 25:47 Yeah, interestingly they came out with a test last week 25:51 where they had randomly tested a whole bunch of people 25:54 in New York City. 25:56 21% of New York City tested positive in that sample there. 26:02 ~ That's amazing. 26:04 Now if you think about that, you know, that's way, way... 26:08 I mean, if you extrapolate that over the city population, 26:11 I think it was, I think they said 1.7 million. 26:15 Well, 1.7 million is way, way more than anybody... 26:20 In other words, most of those would had to have had 26:23 asymptomatic or very minor symptomatology. 26:26 In other words, basically a young healthy human body, 26:31 even a middle aged healthy human body, 26:34 it's been pretty well geared up to fight this 26:38 and prevent it from being bad to you. 26:41 You know, it's really... 26:43 You know, God really designed our bodies 26:46 to make it through the history of this world. 26:49 And I think that's one of the reasons we know He's coming soon 26:53 is because we're pushing the limits of 26:56 what the human body can survive. 26:58 Well, time has flown by. 27:01 - Yeah, yeah. - Amazing. 27:03 I want to encourage you to stay healthy, 27:07 practice the social distancing, practice wearing your mask, 27:13 stay tuned to the Coronavirus Reports, 27:15 and stay healthy. 27:16 Encourage one another, speak positive. 27:18 Let's help each other. 27:19 It is true, we're all in this together. 27:21 We will see you next week. 27:23 We'll be here, you be here, on Coronavirus Report. |
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