Participants: David Asscherick & Shanda Ban (Host), Tyler Coleman
Series Code: E
Program Code: E000001
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00:19 The apostle Paul writes to the church in Corinth and he
00:22 had some very interesting, and even sporting things to say. 00:26 Listen to what he writes in 1 Corinthians 9:24,25. 00:30 He says, "do you not know that those who run in a race 00:34 "all run, but one receives the prize? Run in such a way 00:37 "that you may obtain it. And everyone who competes for 00:41 "the prize is tempered in all things. Now they (that is 00:45 "the athletes) do it to obtain a perishable crown, but we 00:49 "for an imperishable crown. " 00:51 The crown that Paul is writing about here is a laurel 00:54 wreath that would be put on the heads of the champions 00:56 and the victors in games like the Olympic Games. 00:59 In fact the Olympic Games themselves. 01:02 Paul lived in a culture that was very sport oriented and 01:05 sport aware, a culture in many ways like our own. 01:09 Today Americans, for example, are consuming sports on 01:13 an unprecedented scale. 01:15 In 2006 Americans spent over $17 billion on tickets to 01:22 sport contests and sporting events. 01:24 They spent $90 billion on sporting goods, that is over 01:28 double what they spent on books. 01:31 Sports illustrated Frank D. Ford called this mingling 01:36 this co-mingling of sports and Christianity sportcianity. 01:41 He defined it as a mix of locker room psychology and 01:45 athletically slanted doctrines of assertiveness and masculinity 01:49 Unbeded by cherry picked Bible verses prescreen 01:54 to ensure that they don't contradict 01:55 the sports reigning orthodoxy's. 01:59 Our program today is entitled Sports and Spirituality. 02:03 I'm David Asscherick your host and my co-Host Shandra Ban is 02:06 with us today and we are going to be trying to navigate what 02:10 roll if any should sports play in the life of the 02:14 committed Bible believing Christian. 02:16 So Shandra just recently you are reading an article and 02:19 tell me about this article and some of the things that 02:22 were in it were just amazing. 02:24 Yeah, I was reading this article in Christianity Today about 02:26 this sportcianity and there was this couple who was so 02:30 infatuated with their universities football team that 02:33 they bought a $300,000 motor home to travel to all of the 02:37 games, and one of those games just so happen to fall on 02:40 their daughter's wedding day, even though they had asked 02:43 her not to have her wedding on a game day. 02:46 But they made it to the reception and when someone asked 02:48 them why did you miss the wedding? 02:52 He said well I just love my football team. 02:54 Let me get this right, they miss their daughter's wedding 02:58 day because there was a football game on that day? 03:01 Yes, yes. - at least they made the reception though? 03:04 Yes they made the reception, the important part. 03:07 This is what I just heard you say that 2005- 2006 03:10 professional football game, NFL football game and during 03:14 the football game there is a fellow that goes running 03:17 across the field, right he is running across the field. 03:20 Of course they are not allowed to do that he wasn't a player. 03:22 He was just somebody from the stands and he is running 03:25 across and as he is sort of running there is like this bag 03:29 a bag sack thing that is behind him and as he is running 03:32 across the field this as white powdery stuff is trailing 03:36 behind him so when the authorities finally grabbed 03:38 him and apprehended him they said hey 03:40 what are you doing man? 03:41 What are you doing? He was his mother's ashes. 03:43 Oh my word. - it was his mother's ashes and he said she 03:46 always wanted to be a part of whatever the football team 03:48 was and I just wanted to spread them during a game. 03:51 - what a way to go. - so here we are, 03:54 this is the world we live in. 03:55 This is the world we live in and we got here a guest today 03:58 a good friend of yours. - yes. - a new friend of mine. 04:01 We are going to try to help us to make sense out of this 04:04 sportcianity, we could call it sport insanity. 04:06 But introduce us, who is our guest? 04:08 Yeah this is my good friend Tyler Coleman. 04:10 I have known him for several years and Tyler tell us 04:14 where you are from? 04:15 Sonar Ontario Canada. - okay so you are Canadian? 04:20 I'm very Canadian, I play hockey, eat maple syrup, speak 04:24 French. - so you speak French? - yes I do. 04:27 How would you say welcome to the program in French. 04:30 Benvenue o program. 04:35 I think I speak French too. I took French in school and 04:39 I didn't even get that far. 04:40 I took French in school and I was terrible at it. 04:42 I'm not Canadian but you're two Canadian today, 04:45 and were going to talk about this hockey thing. 04:47 Our program today is entitled sports and spirituality 04:51 and you have heard some of those statistics and 04:53 you may not have known the actual statistics but this 04:56 is the world we live in. 04:57 People running their mothers ashes and missing 05:01 their children's weddings. 05:02 Help us to navigate, why are you here? 05:06 Why would we have Tyler Coleman on this program about 05:09 sports, tell us a little bit about yourself? 05:11 Well I guess to go back to kind of how it started, 05:15 when I was three years old and living in Canada there 05:20 is not a whole lot of stuff to do. 05:22 I grew up in the village of a thousand people but 05:23 we had a hockey rink. 05:25 My father and my brothers all played hockey so I started 05:28 at a very young age. 05:30 I quickly progressed and also grew very tall which helped. 05:34 Through the minor ranks up to the point when there 05:40 was a draft for a league called the Ontario Hockey League. 05:43 This league is the biggest theater league to the NHL. 05:49 - just for some of our viewers what is the NHL? 05:51 - what does that stand for? 05:55 It's the National Hockey League and the viewers might 05:58 not even know what hockey is. 06:01 That's true this is a worldwide program and somebody could 06:03 be living in equatorial Guam. 06:05 A lot of places they played field hockey and those kind 06:09 of things, there's frozen water and ice rink. 06:13 There's two nets - 2 teams and you're trying to get 06:17 a puck in the net. - right. 06:19 Five players plus and Goalie on each side. 06:21 It is a fairly violent sport, there is body checking. 06:24 Traditionally there has been fighting involved. 06:28 But in Canada they eat it up, it is the number one sport. 06:32 Is it the national sport? - 1 of - it's one of, that 06:36 is correct Shandra, Lacrosse an Ice Hockey are the national 06:40 sports of Canada, and everybody plays. 06:42 So you Tyler as you are growing up, it's not whether 06:46 or not you are going to play hockey, it is when 06:47 you are starting? - correct. 06:49 I mean if you are living in a village with a thousand 06:51 people what else are you going to do. 06:53 Hey lets go play hockey. - Yeah and there are quite 06:56 obviously some people in Canada that don't play hockey 06:59 but in my small world town that is what everybody did. 07:02 So that is when I started. 07:04 So you not only played in the same way maybe that Shandra 07:08 might've played, no offense Shandra, you were good? 07:11 I mean you progressed, you grew and all of a sudden your 07:15 are in the OHL which you say is a feeder league for the 07:20 NHL, it's like the top league, it's like 07:22 the professional league. 07:24 It is the best league in the world, the National Hockey 07:26 League, the league that I played in was 07:28 the best league in the world for players between the 07:30 ages of 16 and 20. 07:32 So it is a real developmental league and that is where 07:35 they picked players who will eventually go on to the NHL. 07:38 So it's like the minor leagues baseball almost, it feeds 07:40 into the major leagues a little bit? 07:42 Not exactly, but you could think that way. 07:44 So for me, the uninitiated I will think of it that way. 07:47 It is closer to the level of the NCAA is with football 07:50 were they are younger but that is where they take them 07:53 from to eventually go onto the NFL. 07:55 So the goal was to become an NHL player, was that the plan? 08:00 Well for me I was always playing for fun. 08:03 I enjoyed playing with my friends, we traveled quite a 08:06 bit, a family thing that we did together but eventually 08:10 it got to the point where all of a sudden 08:12 there were agents coming to my house. 08:15 There were certain list that ranked the players who 08:18 are eligible because there is actually a draft into the 08:21 Ontario hockey league as well. 08:22 I was rated fairly high in fat so I was having people come 08:25 to my house advising me on the next step and tell me 08:30 basically you know given my size and my skills there was 08:34 a good chance that I would make it onto, eventually make 08:38 it to the National Hockey League. 08:39 It that something you wanted to do? 08:40 Is that what you wanted to do? 08:43 Well every kid in Canada grows up watching those games and 08:46 it wasn't necessarily, being from a small town, there 08:51 weren't a lot of NHL players around to look up to think 08:55 to do that someday. 08:57 When this happened all of a sudden, and there were players 09:00 coming, former NHL players coming to my house and telling 09:04 me that I may be good enough then that is when it dawned 09:08 on me that this could be more than just for fun. 09:11 This could be a career for the rest of my life. 09:13 - so Tyler where in all of this of you playing hockey 09:16 in this league, when did you become a Christian or 09:18 were you raised a Christian? 09:20 Well growing up my family and I went to the Catholic 09:24 Church and I wouldn't say I was a believer at the time. 09:28 I did attend with my family and there were times that 09:33 there were conflicts, like if I had to miss church for 09:37 for a practice or something like that. 09:40 Sometimes that would hold me back but I wouldn't say I was 09:43 Christian at that time, I wasn't necessarily a believer. 09:48 I was quite secular and ended up becoming a Christian 09:51 through friendship evangelism I guess would be the way to 09:53 describe it. - love that. 09:55 I met a really good friend in high school and through her 09:59 and her family I eventually came to know the truth of the 10:03 Bible and began accepting them in my own life. 10:08 So you were how old, 17 at the time? 18? 10:11 It was more over a span of time, I guess it would be 10:15 between the time I was 15 and 20, so it was happening 10:19 at the same time. 10:20 - so you knew this family the whole time? 10:21 Yeah I knew the family from the time it was 15 and I still 10:26 know them today obviously. 10:28 But yeah actually parallel things were happening with my 10:31 Christianity and my hockey. 10:33 Did that start affecting the way you played? 10:35 It did affect how I played a little bit, I was never a big 10:39 goon or anything, I wasn't going out and slashing people. 10:42 - you may not be a big goon but you are kind of big I do 10:45 think we need to point that out because height is an 10:48 advantage in hockey? 10:50 Yes it definitely is, I'm 6 foot four. 10:53 So about my height? - ha ha - plus about 12 inches. 10:58 Shame, shame. But you have a good hockey build. 11:02 That is a desirable 6 foot three or 6 foot four. 11:06 That's at the time, maybe things have changed a little bit 11:10 while I was getting drafted, but that would seem as the 11:13 ideal 6 foot three, 6 foot four where you are a little 11:16 about people when you are hitting people or getting hit. 11:20 You are not getting hit in the chin, 11:22 yeah there is some advantages to it. 11:24 So you not only have the talent thing going for you, 11:26 you have the correct physic and build for it? 11:29 I was a little bit skinny but they looked at my dad and 11:34 he was a big man and figured I would get there. 11:35 Now I want to come back to this thing, so when you say 11:38 friendship evangelism I mean you really mean it. 11:40 You know this family for years that just over time when 11:43 you were just getting to know them, was it something you 11:46 saw in them? Were you have in Bible studies at their 11:48 house? Can you just see set out a little bit for us? 11:51 Sure it was a combination of a lot of things. 11:53 There were Bible studies, they invited me to an 11:56 evangelistic series and just seeing God working in their 12:00 lives as they went on mission trips. 12:02 Their father is a dentist and you could just see that 12:05 God played a part in their everyday lives. 12:09 It wasn't just a once a week kind of thing. 12:13 So you said these events were simultaneously is happening 12:17 here, so you have NHL players coming over to your house, 12:22 professional players saying hey you might make the cut. 12:25 You are the kind of guy that is playing in this league 12:28 which is a feeder league and then you have agents calling 12:32 you convergence of this commitment to Christ. 12:37 They are going to meet aren't they? 12:39 Yeah, in the locker room in a very secular environment 12:45 you are playing in front of 4000 fans. 12:49 You are seen by your peers as reaching an apex and 12:54 I wasn't at the point where I was getting any satisfaction 12:57 out of that anymore. 12:59 After playing in that league for three years I realized 13:03 that I was going to pursue academics and that I wasn't 13:07 going to go to the NHL but I had played with a number of 13:11 people who did and I had an interesting experience there. 13:15 I did see people who went on to the NHL and what 13:19 it was like to be a professional hockey player on 13:23 a smaller scale when you are a teenager. 13:25 But what I ended up doing was going to a different league 13:30 where they ended up paying me some money. 13:31 They were paying me a substantial amount of money and 13:36 giving me a car in various other things to play for them. 13:41 At this time where they are meeting I was coming to 13:47 believe in the seventh day Sabbath. 13:50 That was one of the things that was becoming true in my 13:53 life. - so they are just not going to meet 13:54 their going to collide here? 13:56 Yeah and basically that is what happened. 13:59 Our home games were on Friday nights for this team that 14:03 I was playing on and was given me all these bonuses and 14:07 the car that, but I was already at the point where 14:12 I was believing in the Sabbath and was convinced of it. 14:15 What happened was at the end of that season when I played 14:18 with them I told them that the next year I would not be 14:20 able to play on the seventh day Sabbath anymore. 14:23 That would mean I would miss all Friday night games and 14:26 I would miss Saturday if there was afternoon games. 14:30 I would feel like a hypocrite when I was in college and 14:34 wasn't taking exams say on a Saturday exam, but I was playing 14:38 the hockey game the night before and that was my part-time 14:42 job so I end up having to tell them I'm not going to be 14:46 able to do this. 14:48 - how do they respond to that? 14:49 Well the first response to it was actually pretty positive. 14:52 They were thankful that I told them at the end of that 14:55 season, I had done my commitment for the year and they 14:58 were going to try to work out the schedule for next year 15:01 to work it out and I saw that as God showing me that 15:05 He was looking out for me in this might actually work. 15:08 There was a call to stand to be baptized very soon 15:12 afterwards in the church I was attending. 15:14 Just seen how God was working in my life and the things 15:18 I have learned I really felt like God was speaking to me 15:21 through the picture and I stood to be baptized. 15:24 - Amen. - Amen, hallelujah! 15:26 He was the best decision I ever made in my entire life. 15:30 So did you continue playing after that then? 15:32 Well what I originally made that decision and said I 15:35 wasn't going to be able to play on Sabbath anymore, I had 15:39 thought it out that it may be a situation where I am going 15:43 to be done with hockey beat not able to play somewhere 15:46 because when you are playing in these leaks the majority 15:49 of the games are going to be on the weekends. - right! 15:51 Because of other commitments and stuff like that they just 15:54 have to be, so I had taken that into consideration and 15:57 what ended up happening was my coach, and the management of 16:00 the team weren't able to arrange the schedules to allow 16:03 me to play on Sabbath on that particular team. 16:05 Instead of coming to me with it they went straight to my 16:08 parents and so my parents weren't happy. 16:14 - they didn't share your commitments about the seventh 16:17 day Sabbath? - no they don't, but they were happy I had 16:20 found a faith, but they were looking at it okay he is not 16:24 going to church on Sunday but Saturday and that's it. 16:27 But now it is going to affect my money that I'm going to 16:30 get to pay for my schooling, the drive to work every day 16:33 because I still had the car from the team and it wasn't for 16:36 me and my brothers and now it was effecting me. 16:38 So there was a lot of tension at the time. 16:41 - there was a lot of pressure? - yes pressure and to 16:44 change my decision on that. 16:46 I had considered these things before and there was no 16:52 change, I was very convinced that was the truth. 16:56 - not just because, I do want to clarify, not just 16:59 because the preacher said so but because you were 17:02 convinced that this is what Scripture teaches? 17:04 Right, through my studies in the study with pastors, 17:09 friends and I was very convinced of it. 17:12 And what I see is there is a difference between being 17:16 being convicted. And for me actually standing for something, 17:19 the Sabbath or anything else that you believe 17:22 that God wants you to do that allows you to be 17:24 convicted a lot of times and you can see God working your 17:28 life and the way God ended up working through my hockey 17:31 was that I spent the majority of my time away from school 17:35 playing hockey growing up. 17:37 God met me where was in used hockey. 17:42 What ended up happening was there was a team in Nova 17:45 Scotia which was 19 hours away, a 19 Hour Drive from my 17:48 house and it was on the other side of the country. 17:50 There was a team out there who have been calling me and 17:53 I was thinking I was done with hockey and I told them 17:56 the Sabbath thing and they wouldn't be calling anymore. 17:59 It turned out when I said I would be able to play on 18:02 Sabbath they had a former player who had recently had 18:05 a conversion and believe the same thing so they were 18:08 at least aware of it. - really! 18:09 It's almost like paving the way a little bit? 18:12 Exactly, and I found out that there was an undergraduate 18:15 school that was ranked very highly in Canada in terms of 18:18 undergraduate schools for what I was studying. 18:20 Which was? - I was studying science at the time. 18:23 But you are a lawyer now? - I'm a lawyer now. 18:26 Will maybe come back to that in just a bit but continue 18:28 with this story. 18:29 So I ended up going out to this town in Nova Scotia 18:34 called Amherst which was the greatest blessing, 18:39 exactly what I needed at that time. 18:41 It was a fantastic church that was very supportive. 18:44 The team was accommodating to my beliefs and I only ended 18:50 up missing seven or eight games out of 48 or 58 game 18:54 schedule, so it wasn't too big of a problem. 18:58 It was just a great experience and I really saw 19:01 God leading in it. 19:02 - so you sort of maybe not said it expressly, 19:06 you are sort of touching on something that I think many 19:09 people experience in their walk with Jesus and that is 19:12 that He meets us where we are an sort of coaches us 19:15 through, guides us through, walks us through baby 19:18 steps on top of the mountain, and we can make 19:21 a decision further down 19:23 the pike that we wouldn't have been able 19:24 to make right at the beginning. 19:25 God is meeting you here and giving you the support of 19:28 church and environment and etc. and you are standing for 19:30 the Sabbath, you are standing for the Sabbath and that's 19:32 awesome, it was not just the peer pressure but the 19:35 parental pressure sounds like and financial pressure. 19:39 He stood for what you believed in and I can't remember 19:42 who it was, it might have been Mark Luther King Jr., 19:45 someone said if you don't stand for something 19:48 you'll fall for anything. 19:49 So you had that experience of standing for something? 19:52 Yeah and it turned into a fantastic experience out there. 19:55 The team, now these guys are, but were some guys 19:58 that were goons and to see somebody standing for faith, 20:01 these were the kind of people that I would think might 20:04 mock me about it or something but they actually really 20:07 respected my decision. 20:09 Now I have heard you guys use that term twice, goon 20:11 the kind of hockey-est term? 20:14 Yeah a goon is somebody who is there not so much for his 20:17 skills with scoring goals or getting points, more so for 20:21 fighting and playing very rough. 20:25 I see, so when you make this stand, will look at 20:28 the pretty boy Christian kind of the thing, 20:31 you anticipate that? 20:32 I don't know about the pretty boy, but yet something 20:34 like that. - wimpy boy Christian? 20:37 Yeah something like that, but they were very respectful 20:40 of it, the church was glad to come and support me. 20:44 They were fantastic and at the end of the year ended up 20:47 being with daylight savings living up north eventually 20:51 sundown on Saturday start earlier and earlier. 20:57 Our last home game was actually going to be, sorry later 21:01 and later, our last home game was during the playoffs 21:04 in the league finals he was actually going to be during 21:07 the Sabbath hours. 21:08 It was supposed to start at seven or 7:30 and the sun was 21:10 going down until five to eight. 21:13 - this was the last home game of the year. 21:15 We had made it to the finals and were very popular in the 21:18 area and they were putting for 5000 people in the stands. 21:22 They actually change the time of the game because I was 21:27 following the Sabbath. - wow! - well my team. 21:31 - halleluiah! - yeah it was one of the, 21:36 it was a great experience for me to see how God was able 21:39 to use my hockey to witness to other people. 21:41 Now did mean that everybody went out and got baptized or 21:46 anything like that but He was able to use me and show me 21:51 that people still do stand for things. 21:56 People still stand for Christ. 21:58 So Tyler you just mentioned there that you are able to use 22:00 hockey as a witness, do you still play hockey now and if 22:03 so, obviously not at this level you used to, but how can 22:06 you use that as a witness? 22:08 Yeah I have taken it down a lot of notches but I think 22:11 being a candidate there is not a whole lot to do in the 22:14 winter and I love playing and probably will play until my 22:17 body won't let me anymore. 22:19 Which will probably be at least a couple years away. 22:21 - yeah, until my knees are a little creaky. 22:23 No it has been a witness because after being away for 22:27 a long time I am now back in the area where I grew up. 22:32 We're all my friends are involved in hockey. - 22:35 oh I see this is a bit of a success story. 22:37 I mean you are among your friends. - yeah! 22:39 I mean you're not playing NHL but professionally in these 22:42 other leagues, you're good, you must been pretty good if they 22:46 moved the whole, you don't have to say you I was so good. 22:49 But I mean if they moved the game you must've been 22:51 a significant contributor to your team. 22:54 So you come back home and that is cool. 22:57 Yeah, I don't know if they see that necessarily as a 23:01 success, but they like to have me on the team back home 23:04 because I can still play at a decent level. 23:07 - So are you a fighter now? 23:08 I'm not a fighter at all, but it is a chance to meet these 23:12 friends, they still are my friends and are great friends 23:17 that I care about deeply. 23:18 Playing on a sports team with a chance to relate to 23:24 them, to speak with them on their level and witness 23:29 just in the way I act towards the other team and towards 23:34 my teammates and all those kinds of things. 23:36 While the passage of scripture I read right there at the 23:39 beginning, 1 Corinthians chapter 9 where we run and only 23:42 one person wins, the verse just before that very 23:45 interestingly Paul says to the Jew I become a Jew, 23:48 to the Greek, a Greek, to those that are under the law, 23:51 under the law and so I guess to the hockey players 23:54 you've become a hockey player. 23:55 You are meeting people, this is your culture, this is 23:58 your culture and you are meeting people in the context 24:01 of that culture as somebody who has stood for something 24:04 and who is still gifted and talented at what you do, 24:07 but you are unashamedly, unabashedly a follower of Jesus. 24:11 Definitely and its, and also because I play with those 24:15 levels I can go back to these leagues now and 24:18 I don't take it crazy serious. 24:21 They talk about those old competitions and stuff where 24:25 there would be one winner, when you are playing for just 24:30 fun now, I don't play for glory, I don't play for a bunch 24:34 of fans, my mom came to one game and that is the 24:37 extent of the fans we get. 24:40 But your mom is a pretty good fan. 24:41 My mom is good fan, and she's loud to sometimes. 24:44 In a good way, but yet it's a place where you are able to 24:51 speak to people, for me anyway, better than in their 24:56 living room, better than round a large group of people 25:01 because you are sitting there after being tired and you 25:06 help them out might have given them a pass they scored with. 25:09 You're helping them on the ice. 25:12 Your teenagers know you are a Christian? - yeah they do. 25:15 So this something more you have to be timid or hide your 25:19 faith, obviously you are not. - no, it's not like every 25:23 day I hit them with Bible by any means. 25:25 It is more so the way I conduct myself on the ice. 25:30 The way I talk to referees, the way I conduct myself after 25:34 the game. In Canada when you're playing in these leagues 25:37 after you are not really playing competitive anymore, 25:39 they are cold beer leagues and the reason is because 25:43 after the game they toss around a beer to everybody 25:46 and I just don't partake. 25:48 Even as something as small as that cause they sometimes 25:52 you don't drink? No I don't, no I don't and as for couple 25:57 of reasons, health wise but also because of my faith 25:59 I don't think it's a good thing to put in my body. 26:01 Hmmm, Praise God that's a great witness. 26:04 So there is a lot of opportunities like that were 26:07 something small will turn into this brief discussion, 26:11 and it is not where you're hitting them over the head 26:15 with theology or anything like that. 26:16 In the world today and in that sport culture in Canada 26:21 anyway, in the hockey world there is not a whole lot of 26:26 emphasis put on, there's not the sportcianity, 26:32 you just play sports go for the glory. 26:35 I love it, I love the way you are sort of bringing 26:37 the program back around. 26:38 Go ahead Shannon. You mentioned earlier you were talking 26:41 about how you were attaining for this life, this glamorous 26:43 life of becoming a NLH star, 26:46 and it reminds me of this Bible John 10:10 in 26:50 the latter half where it says, 26:51 "I have come that they may have life and have it more 26:54 "abundantly. " Now have you found, and can you take these 26:57 final moments just tell our viewers what you found to be 26:59 the more abundant life? 27:01 Yeah remember sitting around campfires with my peers and 27:06 friends when I was playing in OHL, and it was something 27:10 they were actually paying to go to the games. 27:13 I would tell them I'm tired of this, I was practicing 27:16 every day and it became a job. 27:18 There was pressure's to perform and all 27:21 that kind of stuff. 27:22 That isn't what I wanted, what I was looking for as 27:25 I wanted to play gave all the time and all of a sudden 27:28 it didn't turn out the way they expected. It's not all 27:32 glory and glamour it's a lot of work and wasn't for me. 27:36 In turning to God my life has been so amazing, 27:42 I've traveled I've met a amazing people and there has 27:47 been a peace since I made that decision. 27:50 So chooses this promise has been true in your life? 27:52 He has given you an abundant life and we are so thankful 27:56 to have had to on the show today. 27:57 Thank you for helping us to strike that balance. |
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