Participants: David Asscherick & Shanda Ban (Host), Mindi Rahn
Series Code: E
Program Code: E000002
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00:20 Hello my name is David Asscherick, Welcome to the
00:22 Engage program and today we are going to be taking a look at a 00:25 life changed by mission. 00:28 To sort of set this program up I thought it would be very 00:32 appropriate for us to look at the origin of all mission. 00:35 At least Christian mission. 00:36 And that is found of course in the resurrection of Jesus 00:39 Christ, I'm here in Mark 16. 00:40 And there is an interesting little turn that takes place 00:43 here, something that is going to tie in very nicely with 00:46 our program and something I want you our viewers, to pay 00:49 careful attention to. 00:51 I'm just going to read right here in Mark 16:9, this is 00:54 the resurrection story, it says, "Now when He rose early 00:57 "on the first day of the week," He being Jesus of course. 01:00 "He appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of who He had 01:03 "cast seven demons. She went and told those who had been 01:06 "with Him, as they mourned and wept. And when they heard 01:09 "that He was alive and had been seen by her," now listen 01:12 to this, "they did not believe. 01:15 " Okay, so they hear the message, Mary Magdalene has come 01:18 and said Jesus is alive, Jesus is risen, and it says that 01:21 they did not believe. 01:23 Now notice the narrative continues. 01:24 "12. After that, He appeared in another form to two of them as 01:28 "they walked and went into the country. And they went and 01:31 "told it to the rest, but they did not believe them 01:34 either. " So Jesus here appears to two additional people 01:37 now, probably the two disciples in Luke 24 that are on 01:40 the road to Emmaus and they go to tell others Jesus is 01:43 alive, Jesus is risen and what does the Bible say? 01:46 And they did not believe. 01:49 But it gets even more interesting. Verse 14. 01:51 "Later He appeared to the eleven as they sat at the table; 01:56 "and He rebuked their unbelief and hardness of heart 01:59 "because they did not believe those who had seen Him 02:03 "after He had risen. " 02:04 You see four times here they did not believe, they did not 02:07 believe, they did not believe, they did not believe. 02:10 Now what Jesus does here is a master stroke of psychology 02:15 and insight into the human psychic and will tie in 02:19 brilliantly with our program today. 02:21 Verse 15. "And He said to them," them being the disciples 02:24 who didn't believe, didn't believe, didn't believe, didn't 02:27 believe, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to 02:31 "every creature. " Go on a mission trip. 02:33 Go to the furtherest parts of the globe, "Go into all the 02:36 "world and preach the gospel to every creature. He who 02:39 "believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does 02:43 "not believe will be condemned. And these signs will 02:46 "follow those who believe;" 02:48 And then he goes on to list some of the signs. 02:50 Very interesting isn't it? The disciples don't believe, 02:53 they don't believe, they don't believe, they don't 02:55 believe and then Jesus says to these very people 02:58 who don't believe, go and preach the gospel so that 03:02 others will believe. 03:03 Jesus here in a master stroke of insight into the human 03:07 psychic just as a master psychologist He basically says, 03:11 your own belief will be strengthened as you go out to 03:14 others and help them to believe. 03:17 That is what we are going to be talking about 03:18 in our program today. 03:19 Of course my co-host Shandra Bain is with us and also 03:23 Mindy Rahn, so Shandra introduce us to our guest and we 03:27 are going to be talking about a life changed by mission. 03:30 Thanks David, Mindy it is so great to have you here. 03:33 As David mentioned this is Mindy Rahn, you are a professor 03:35 at Southern Adventist University in Collegedale Tennessee. 03:38 So tell us a little about yourself, who is Mindy Roan? 03:42 Well the reason I am here today is because Jesus Christ 03:46 had mercy on me and He got a hold of my life and put me 03:50 out in the mission field and turned my world view upside 03:53 down for His glory. 03:55 Amen, that is why I am here. That is why we are all here. 03:59 Just before we run off here, which I want to run off, but 04:02 you are a professor of Political Science International 04:06 Studies. - Political Science International Studies. - Yes! 04:09 Okay, great, well it is a privilege to have you here Mindy 04:12 and we are looking forward to interacting with your story. 04:14 I think that the introduction here from Mark 16 is going 04:17 to tie in very nicely with you learning to believe, and 04:20 you really grabbed your belief in the mission field. 04:23 Yes definitely, absolutely. 04:25 So Mindy you are young and I don't know how you can 04:27 possibly be a professor because you look like you are 04:29 a kid, forgive me for saying that. 04:31 So here we are, you are born, let's just start from the 04:35 beginning. - Okay, that sounds good. 04:36 I was born into a wonderful Seventh day Adventist Christian 04:40 family. My parents are amazing, they brought me up in the church 04:43 and my older sister as well. 04:44 But for some reason the rest of my family were always hard 04:49 working but for some reason I was very lazy. I was! 04:53 So lazy and as a child I became addicted to television. 04:56 Seriously, the rest of my family would be in the mountains 05:00 hiking and I would stay home and watch TV. 05:02 And this continued, - presumably it was not 3ABN? 05:05 Oh no! Not good TV. And so this continued and basically 05:09 my world view was about myself. What was best for me. 05:14 I went to a wonderful Christian Academy and I attempted 05:18 to have that relationship with God, but it wasn't real. 05:21 It was just something I did everyday. 05:23 - So Academy high school years? - Yes high school years. 05:26 You got it. Then I ended up at Southern Adventist 05:29 University for college were I am actually working now. 05:33 I was there and my main thing I was focused on and making 05:37 A's, I just had to get those A's because it made me feel 05:40 so good. - I can resonate with that. - Yeah and shopping. 05:43 What my friends and I were going to do the next weekend. 05:46 That's all I cared about. 05:48 - Really, so pretty shallow, forgive me for saying that but 05:50 it was pretty shallow. - Superficial, my life was 05:53 bankrupt in my opinion looking back from now. 05:56 Now before we run off further down, you used the word 05:59 world view at least twice now, just for some of our 06:03 viewers that may not be normal language that they are 06:06 accustomed to, so what do we mean when we say my world 06:08 view was turned upside-down? Just in a sentence. 06:10 Basically how I viewed the world and what 06:13 I think is important, exactly. 06:15 So now here we are at Southern Adventist University and 06:19 your worldview, what is important to you academia, 06:22 you wanted those A's, you needed to look good, and social 06:25 life. - it's true, that is definitely true. 06:27 My senior year of college and was actually in a relationship, 06:31 and it wasn't good. 06:33 Nice guy, but his direction was not with Christianity. 06:38 That pulled me away from our relationship with God. 06:42 By the end of my senior year I was at a crisis point in my 06:46 life, I didn't even know there was a God. 06:48 I had so many questions, I was in a deep pit my life. 06:51 It was not a good time. 06:53 So you wouldn't even self identified as a Christian at 06:56 that time? - well I would call myself that in name, but in 07:00 believe no, I was struggling Yes but I always wanted to 07:04 keep up that appearance, to my family, to everyone. 07:07 And you are at a Christian university says that's important 07:09 Absolutely, absolutely I was on the student association. 07:11 - the culture just called for it. - exactly, 07:13 but I had major questions and I didn't want to talk 07:16 to anybody about that. 07:17 Just hearing you say that makes me think of how may people 07:21 in our churches, in our schools, our having the same kinds 07:24 of internal, so this is great on this level and the main 07:27 thing we were going to be talking about 07:29 but the reality is there are people were going through 07:32 the Christian motions and where the Christian cloths and 07:35 doing the Christian lifestyle but who internally are 07:38 filled with doubts and skepticism and that was you. 07:42 Yeah, absolutely and if any of you guys out there have 07:45 questions don't feel bad, just talk to someone. 07:48 Talk to them, delve into these issues deeper. 07:51 Because there is a very good chance, at the school that 07:54 I run and Shandra helps us with, ARISE, you always have 07:57 somebody who is nervous about raising their hand and then 08:00 they will come to me between classes and say oh I have 08:02 this question and the question is thus and so. 08:05 I said is so interesting that the student just before 08:07 you had the same question. 08:08 So the reality is that many people are wrestling or 08:11 questioning the very same things but the nature 08:13 of the human experience is that we often feel like 08:15 we are the only ones. 08:17 Okay, so this is you. - so there's more people out 08:19 as there. - yes, yes definitely. 08:21 As I talk to students at Southern, so many people 08:23 have questions definitely. 08:26 So let's be honest, there's nothing wrong with questions. 08:29 It is very appropriate as long as we are willing to hear 08:31 the answers. - definitely, definitely there are answers. 08:35 I like to say it's not the people that have questions 08:38 that make me nervous, it's the people that don't have any 08:41 questions because this grand and beautiful thing that 08:43 we call the Christian life, just life in general, 08:47 is a wonderful mysterious, joyful, joy filled thing that 08:50 there is an element of mystery, there is an element of hey 08:54 I need your faith to strengthen me and mine 08:56 to strengthen you and vice versa. 08:57 So you are in a situation and you are sort of 09:00 internalizing or kind of isolating and you feel alone 09:04 almost maybe in your questionings? 09:05 Where do we go from there? 09:07 Exactly, well it is my senior year and I am graduating, 09:10 my boyfriend breaks up with me and I am heartbroken. 09:12 But that was the best thing that ever happened to me 09:14 in the entire world. 09:16 My parents were so happy I broke up with this young man 09:19 and they sent me out of the country so that he would not 09:23 come back, but I was so excited I wanted to go. 09:26 I wanted to leave everything thing I had ever known, 09:28 now I wanted something different so I actually signed 09:31 up with a volunteer service and went to Costa Rica for the 09:34 summer and taught English 09:35 but when I got to Costa Rica there wasn't very much for 09:38 me to do, and this was a blessing. 09:40 So I sat basically for hours a day and I would get a box of 09:43 raisin bran and pick the raisins out of the box. 09:45 - you are joking, that is the funniest thing ever. 09:47 And I would read my Bible for hours a day. 09:50 - why didn't you just buy raisins? 09:51 - I know but this is more fun. 09:55 So for hours I would just read the Bible and there was no 09:57 telephone, no Internet, no distractions and God just spoke 10:00 to my heart and totally turned my life. 10:04 - was there anything in particular that really captured 10:05 you, that just got you? Or was it just the Bible? 10:07 I started reading the New Testament and Paul's writings 10:10 and it just broke my heart and the Bible wasn't this 10:13 boring book anymore. 10:14 It was alive, it was the word of God speaking to me. 10:17 So it was amazing. - so now you are on fire. 10:20 Where did you go from there? 10:21 Before I went I actually did an interview with the United 10:25 Nations in New York City and I felt like such a 10:29 horrible sinner, I didn't feel like I was worthy to go 10:32 and represent the church at the United Nations. 10:35 But God has such mercy, He put me up there right after 10:38 Costa Rica and I went from Collegedale Tennessee to 10:42 New York City, out of my comfort zone. 10:44 In my world view. - quite a transition. - yes a huge 10:47 transition and my worldview was turned upside down. 10:50 It wasn't about me and what I was going to that week end, 10:54 and clothes, and relationships. - or a career now? 10:58 Or a career even, I was at the United Nations and I went 11:01 to human rights meetings and programs about how people 11:03 are going to have water, people who don't have food, 11:06 how people don't have clothes, how people can't practice 11:09 their religion, wow, I am so blessed. 11:12 And we need to serve this world for God's glory. 11:15 Yeah it's a huge perspective. 11:18 And we are great to have you back on another program and 11:20 we are going to talk about those very things, human right 11:22 issues because I know that is a passion of yours, 11:24 and it is a passion of Jesus. 11:26 So we will get to that, but for now you are at the United 11:30 Nations, I just want to back up ever so slightly. 11:33 So you're eating the raisins out of the raisin bran box, and 11:37 you are reading scriptures and it is the Word of God to 11:41 you. I have had that experience so many times where I'm 11:44 like whoa, I mean this is God and He is speaking to me. 11:48 Some circumstance, some providence, some serendipity, 11:51 how - how? Is that what was happening? 11:55 Yeah, it was like Bible was alive and active in cutting 11:59 into my heart because of who He is. 12:02 Because we have so many distractions and we are not 12:04 spending that time with God in the word. 12:07 We could go on for hours like this, I just have to say I'm 12:09 reading a book right now on the spiritual disciplines and 12:13 the author Dallas Willard, we have become less spiritual 12:18 people as individuals and in many cases as a society because 12:21 we just don't practice the discipline of silence. 12:25 And solitude, being alone and being quiet and that's what 12:28 you had. - yeah, and also it carried on to New York City 12:31 because for the first time my life I was out of my comfort 12:35 zone, so I would spend days, hours just walking through 12:38 Central Park reading my Bible, reading C. S. Lewis books. 12:41 God was forming and He was working inside my heart. 12:45 You did that for summer you said? 12:47 New York, I was there for 10 months, Costa Rica for the 12:50 summer and after that I went to New York City. 12:53 So you have to be early 20s. Yes I was 21 at the time. 12:57 Okay so then what? - so you were going to these 13:00 meetings, these meetings are you are getting this is 13:04 happening to your worldview, all my little world have a 13:08 new outfit there is not the most important thing in the world 13:11 The A is maybe, now don't get me wrong I want you students 13:14 to get A's on your tests but you realize that is not the 13:17 beginning and the end of life. 13:18 My identity is not rooted in that. 13:20 There we go, I love that language. 13:23 Yeah so after the United Nations I realized I have a 13:25 passion for this so I wanted to get a graduate degree and 13:29 learn more about this and serve people so I began grad 13:32 school. - excellent, there in New York? 13:35 No it started Georgia Tech in Atlanta and then I actually 13:40 transferred to Claremont Graduate University near 13:42 Loma Linda. - okay so in California. 13:45 Yeah, in California and to be honest when I got to 13:47 Loma Linda I start falling into a comfort zone again. 13:50 Like this wasn't as important to me and I didn't need 13:53 God as much, you know my friends were there 13:55 but God got my attention yet again because second semester 14:00 to and from grad school I would have to drive 14:03 at least 30 minutes every day. 14:05 One of my best friends, Amber, gave me actually a CD set 14:10 of restoration, an evangelistic and it was in 2005, 14:16 so it was a year later. 14:17 I would play that as I was going to and from grad school. 14:20 So just a little clarification, it was a set of prophecy 14:24 meetings that David had done. 14:25 It wasn't just prophecy it was a lot of different things. 14:28 It was Christian apologetics and I had never heard 14:31 anything like this, Christianity can make sense. 14:34 And I'm like Christianity does make sense. 14:36 So that really got me excited. 14:39 So you have this emotional connection in Costa Rica 14:42 in the now you are like whoa this isn't just the motive 14:45 thing, this is awesome. - it's logical as well. 14:50 So you finished grad school? - I did I wanted to go work 14:53 for ADRA, another organization but God had a different 14:57 plan. - ADRA a good question, ADRA is a development 15:01 organization that is run by the the Seventh-day Adventist church 15:05 and basically they do things to help people with sanitation, 15:08 they help people with agriculture and things like that 15:11 So you wanted to go work for them? - yeah, I did. 15:13 So you have a fire in your belly and you are ready to go? 15:17 Exactly, but that wasn't God's plan and that is okay. 15:20 Because His plan is best, and I really prayed about this. 15:24 But He plopped me at Atlantic Union College in 15:26 Massachusetts. - you've been all over. 15:30 Now your word is peripatetic, do you know that word means? 15:32 Yes it means you're walking. 15:34 - you're walking everywhere, everywhere. 15:36 But the thing is before I let God take control of my life 15:39 it was the opposite and it was boring. 15:41 You know that because you start by saying I was lazy, 15:44 you stay home and watch television and now you're all 15:46 over. - yeah, yeah. 15:48 And you're traveling is just beginning? Right, right! 15:52 So I ended up at AUC, at Atlantic Union College and it 15:56 was a blessing, I never wanted to be a teacher. 15:59 It was so amazing because now I got to study history and 16:03 compared prophecy and I would teach my classes through 16:07 Daniel two. - so you're teaching that? 16:09 Yeah I'm a teacher of history at that point so that 16:13 further confirmed my belief in the Bible and was a huge 16:17 blessing. - should he said that wasn't really the plan. 16:20 You didn't they go I want to be a professor, 16:22 but you ended up there? 16:24 Yes, God's ways are best. - I love that, Amen! 16:27 He gives you the desires of your heart for sure. 16:30 beautiful. - yes but while I was there the only 16:33 television station that I got. - here we go, here we go. 16:37 It was 3ABN, it really was, I never watched 3ABN before. 16:41 But that was it, that was all I was able to watch and 16:45 I loved it, it was an amazing blessing. 16:46 So for one who was totally fixated on TV it was alright. 16:51 Yeah, definitely. - so literally you are there teaching 16:55 history at AUC a college, you are a professor, in the 17:00 evenings and you're going home and were you eating 17:05 the raisins? No okay. 17:07 So you're watching 3ABN? - yeah. - so what do you see 17:11 now, what is resonating with you? 17:13 I was seeing amazing things about how I needed to be in 17:15 the Bible for myself. 17:16 How it should be having worship every day, hours with 17:19 God and when you have these worships with God He will put 17:22 you in ministry and is so true, 17:24 He was really speaking to my heart. 17:26 To get involved especially in ministry. 17:28 Okay so, a burden not just for the message but to share 17:34 the message with others. - exactly, exactly. 17:36 So every single year I always pray God what do You want 17:39 me to do next? Do You want me to stay at AUC or not? 17:42 Do You want me to stay or do You want me to go? 17:46 I was really praying about this a whole lot, for a long 17:50 time and my dad one day mentioned about ARISE. 17:53 - okay, okay I heard of them, I heard of that place. 17:56 Yeah it is an evangelistic training school and I'm 17:59 thinking I don't want to go to ARISE, I have a job. 18:02 You know I have a job. I'm working. 18:04 I can't do that. - this is your dad's suggestion? 18:08 It was my dad's suggestion, yep! So I considered it. 18:11 I respect my dad and I was really praying about this 18:14 and praying about this and studying the word. 18:18 One day I was looking at some class notes from the 18:21 semester before that had three quotations that I had put 18:25 together, I read over them. 18:27 I thought okay You might be saying something to me God. 18:30 The first one was this, true higher education is gained 18:33 by studying the word of God. 18:35 So I thought that was really cool. Then the next one. 18:37 Where there is no active labor for others love wanes and 18:40 faith grows dim. In the final one was, a rise and 18:43 shine the light has come in the glory of 18:45 the word has been upon you. 18:47 I say God are you saying something to me? 18:49 I don't just want to take a sign so I kept praying about 18:52 it and praying about it. 18:53 This is some you had written yourself and put together 18:56 yourself. - so it spoke to later. 18:58 Yeah it was weird, and so I kept praying about it and 19:01 praying about it in one day I actually decided to fast 19:05 and pray if this was something God wanted me to do. 19:08 I had actually put in my application into ARISE and 19:11 I hadn't heard back from you guys and so. 19:14 - that's not my fault, I want to be clear. 19:17 I thought maybe this wasn't supposed to work out so 19:20 I had a day of fasting and prayer. 19:21 I had a good prayer session and study the Bible session 19:25 and I started to turn on 3ABN and it was talking about 19:29 this guy who actually went to ARISE and he was older and 19:32 left his job and it talked about how God took care of him. 19:36 So I was like okay, great. 19:38 Then I checked my e-mail right after that and ARISE had 19:41 written me back and so I say God I'm going to go. 19:43 I'm going to go to ARISE. 19:45 - I'm sure we sensed it on time, but the Lord calls it. 19:49 Okay so later on that summer I actually was going to back 19:53 out. - I just want to pause you for a second. 19:55 So here is something else we need to highlight and that 19:58 is the story within the story and that is God's 20:00 providence, we see this all over your story here, 20:02 Providence, you read this thing Providence God's speaking 20:06 to you through His word in Coast Rica, Providence. 20:08 Your dad says hey maybe this, so really you keep saying 20:11 God's plan is best in the way that God is revealing His 20:15 plan to you is through these providential openings in your 20:18 willingness to do whatever God wants. 20:20 You are on God's timetable. - right - praise God. 20:23 His timetable is different than ours, it's better. 20:27 So you are going to back out of coming to ARISE? 20:30 We'd love having you there, I'm glad you came. 20:33 I think I was going to totally back out and I actually 20:36 was at my parents house visiting and we got together and 20:38 if you list and we prayed and asked God. 20:41 Thank God for godly parents. - yes, if I'm supposed to 20:44 go to ARISE did I really need encouragement right now. 20:47 I really need encouragement. 20:49 It was late at night actually in 15 minutes later I hadn't 20:53 heard from you guys again all summer, several months. 20:56 Randy Ban, your husband called me and prayed with me and 20:59 encouraged me about coming right after we had prayed. 21:02 So I thought I'll go. 21:03 Another providential opening. So then you come to ARISE. 21:07 It's a four-month program, and for those of our viewers 21:10 who do not know exactly what ARISE is, it is a school that 21:14 I happened to be the director of, and Shandra Ban is, 21:16 how do we say really you work for us but we just don't 21:19 pay her, she is a volunteer. 21:21 It is a resource Institute for soul winning in evangelism 21:23 and we are in our tent here of training and basically run 21:26 a four month program for people like Mindy and others. 21:29 Maybe you, maybe the Spirit of God is speaking to 21:32 you through this program, but it is what we do. 21:34 We basically teach people how to share their faith as 21:36 effectively in person to person settings 21:39 and also in public context. 21:40 So you come is a professor to ARISE and this is awesome. 21:46 Keep going! Okay so ARISE is just amazing. 21:51 It was wonderful to get into the word, to study with other 21:53 people and then to go share your faith. 21:56 I remember knocking on a door. I was so scared. 21:59 I never wanted to knock on a door before and my out reach 22:03 partner Ricky and I the first door it was a slam in our 22:06 face and I felt okay take it worse than that. 22:09 It can only get better, and it did, it did. 22:11 One day we ended up at this street called Buttercup. 22:15 We talked this guy named Charvah and he was like I prayed 22:19 yesterday that you would come because I wanted someone to 22:23 talk my girlfriend about God. 22:25 Whoa, that is really neat and we actually ended up studying 22:29 with his girlfriend and her name Sandra and we studied 22:33 with her and she ended up coming to a sermon series that 22:37 you guys are preaching. 22:38 She end up giving her life to God, she ended up getting 22:42 baptized and coming to ARISE herself and then now 22:46 she is at a university in Andrews. 22:49 So you never know what one little knock when 22:52 going out there can do. 22:55 And she is a saint and we just love her. 22:57 She was changed by your mission. - Yeah, it's amazing. 23:03 So you leave ARISE, what class was that 2007 so what 23:09 is going on now? 23:10 I went to Africa for about five months. 23:15 - Now we are in Africa. - well you know how that 23:18 happens when you are really, really prayed about it and 23:21 God again opens the door and plops me in Africa and that 23:23 was another life-changing experience. 23:25 When Africa gets in your heart, it gets in your heart. 23:28 You said that just this morning before we can, 23:30 when Africa gets under your skin there is something 23:33 wild and wonderful about it, the good and the bad. 23:37 I mean for me there is something that is almost 23:41 incommunicable about Africa, it just gets inside of you. 23:44 It does and the people are real, you need to go sometime. 23:47 So you were on vacation there right? 23:49 Know I was actually at a Seventh-day Adventist Hospital 23:53 volunteering, doing some grant writing but also 23:56 praying with the patients. 23:58 I've got some stories about that but maybe we can share 24:00 it on another program. 24:02 But pray with patients and they were the biggest 24:04 blessing in the world. 24:05 Now Africa is a continent where are you? - Malawi. 24:08 Malawi which is in southern Africa. 24:10 In your heart is? Now you are just in mission? 24:14 This is who Mindy Rahn is. - really, yep. 24:17 Where id God take you from there? 24:19 I actually ended up spending a little bit of time in 24:22 Australia working with the ministry there which was a 24:25 blessing, and an afterword I went through a very humbling 24:28 period, I couldn't find a job. 24:30 So I came back to the US and I didn't know what to do 24:34 again, it was one of those crossroads. 24:36 It was very humbling, and very good because I definitely 24:40 have some pride issues going on at that time and God was 24:43 working in my heart. 24:44 It was really weird, six years ago I wrote an article when 24:50 I was working at the UN and I gave it to the 24:54 Adventist Review, which is a magazine. 24:55 They accepted it, and my boss actually gave it to them 24:59 and they had accepted it, and six years later all of 25:02 a sudden they just published this article. 25:04 - 6 years later? - when I'm looking for a job 6 years 25:07 later weird, I was at my parents house at the time. 25:10 My mom was like Mindy I wonder if someone will see this 25:13 and give you a good job? 25:15 I was like no, that won't happen. 25:18 Well a few weeks later I get a phone call from someone 25:20 at Southern saying I saw this magazine and would 25:23 you come work here? Yeah, so I'm still at Southern now. 25:27 - it gives you Goosebumps. 25:29 It's amazing blessing. - that's how I feel. 25:30 That's how God works, like we see Him doing miracles in 25:33 the Bible, He is the same God today. 25:35 - Amen, hallelujah! So whether it's Costa Rica or 25:39 whether it's Malawi or whether it's Australia or whether 25:41 it is there in urban Michigan on Buttercup Drive, 25:45 your life is a life that changed my mission. 25:49 How many of us are, or yeah I believe the Bible and that 25:53 is it? No this is the message we are to hear. 25:57 He has risen and He is alive and to take that message to 26:01 others and then our own belief is strengthen in helping 26:04 others. - sure, it goes back to that quote where no 26:06 active labor for others, love wanes and faith grows dim. 26:11 No active labor for others, love wanes and faith grows 26:15 dim. And it is true. 26:17 So Mindy what would you say to our viewers, some of whom 26:21 may be sitting there saying you know this has really 26:25 spoken to me in a profound way. 26:26 I feel like I have been keeping my risen Christ to myself. 26:30 In a few seconds what would you say to them? 26:32 All I have to say is there is no greater joy than having 26:38 a relationship with Jesus and serving Him. 26:41 Like I said, my life was bankrupt and now I have 26:44 a purpose, and I have joy. 26:45 It is not something we need to be embarrassed about. 26:48 Jesus is the most wonderful thing in the entire world, 26:52 so my advice would be to just get into the word and pray. 26:57 Spend that time Jesus Christ and then ask Him to reveal 27:01 His love to you and then go. 27:03 The Bible says in Matthew 28 go ye therefore and that He 27:07 will be with us always, so just go, share, love others, 27:11 serve others in your life will turn upside down. 27:14 It will be so much more exciting. 27:16 - Beautiful. - Amen, Amen. 27:18 I can see you lead a very exciting life and thank you 27:19 so much Mindy for joining us today. 27:20 If any of you have questions or comments on this episode 27:24 we would love for you to e-mail us. 27:25 The e-mail address is: Engage, the title of the program 27:29 engage@3ABN.org and we would just love to hear from you. 27:33 If there's any questions or comments you would like 27:35 for us or for Mindy. 27:36 Thank you so much Mindy for coming and it has been an 27:39 inspiration to me and it has been an inspiration to our 27:42 guests and we know that God has, this is just the 27:44 beginning of your journey, it is the beginning of all 27:47 our journeys and God is taking us into eternity. 27:49 - definitely. - thanks for coming and it's been 27:52 a privilege to have you here. - thank you. 27:53 Thank you so much for joining us here at Engage 27:56 we are connecting with people who are connected to Christ 27:58 who are then connecting with their world. |
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