Participants: David Asscherick & Shanda Ban (Host), Mindi Rahn
Series Code: E
Program Code: E000003
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00:19 Don't many people feel that it would be such a great
00:22 privilege to visit scenes of Christ's life on Earth. 00:26 To walked where He walked, to look upon the lake which 00:29 He loved to teach, and the hills and valleys on which 00:33 His eyes soft often rested, but did you know we do not 00:37 need to go to Nazareth, Capernaum or to Bethany, 00:40 in order to walk in the steps of Jesus. 00:42 We confine His footprints beside the sickbed and in 00:45 the hovels of poverty, in the crowded alleys in a great 00:49 city and in every place where there's human hearts 00:52 in need of consolation. 00:54 In doing as Jesus did when He was on earth, 00:57 we can walk in His steps. 01:00 My name is Shandra Ban and I welcome you 01:03 to today's show Engage. 01:05 We have with me my co-host David Asscherick, 01:08 and a returning guest Mindi Rahn. 01:10 She has been here before and on her last episode 01:12 she talked about how her life has been changed by 01:15 missions, where she come from and how she got there 01:18 and what that means. 01:20 Mindi you mentioned last time that you really have a 01:23 passion for the humans rights, the basic needs of people 01:26 their food, their water, their sanitation, just things 01:30 that we can actually have physical things that we can do 01:33 four people and you mentioned that 01:35 you worked for the United Nations. 01:37 Tell us about that, tell us about human rights and how 01:39 you got there, why is that place in your heart? 01:43 Sure, sure, definitely. Well to be honest the first 01:46 21 years of my life were all about Mindi's rights. 01:49 Seriously it's true, then it was able to go to Coast Rica 01:53 for the summer as a student missionary and God really 01:57 got of my heart there. 01:59 He opened the door for me to do an internship at the 02:03 United Nations and as I was there I went to meetings 02:07 about people who didn't have water, meetings about human 02:11 trafficking, for example there was this one girl in India. 02:14 She had a boyfriend and her boyfriend said let's go on a 02:17 trip, let's go to my home country and meet my family. 02:21 And they went and he actually ended up selling her into 02:24 sex slavery and she contracted HIV and ended up dying. 02:28 I would go to meetings about Turkmenistan and the lack 02:31 of rights people have there. 02:33 I would go to meetings about malnourishment around the 02:36 world, so my focus - these are things people talk about 02:39 we don't know about - no people don't talk about that. 02:41 We are talking about Hollywood, were talking about were 02:44 going to do for potluck, and potluck is certainly not a 02:48 bad thing but our focus is on ourselves and entertainment 02:51 as such but there are people out there in need. 02:54 We need to focus on that more definitely. 02:57 Your first exposure to some of these things Mindi, 03:00 at least your first heartfelt exposure was when 03:03 you are working at the United Nations? 03:04 Yes I had gone mission trips before, but it was more about 03:07 having fun with my friends. But as you went 03:10 I was by myself going to these meetings God really just 03:13 placed the burden on my heart for human rights issues. 03:15 I'm so glad to hear you saying that because we sometimes 03:18 hear oh we went on a mission trip to the Bahamas, 03:20 not that they're not mission enterprises that need to have 03:24 a place in the Bahamas, we went snorkeling for five days 03:27 and we built a church in three. 03:28 Not to downplay that, praise the Lord that it plays some 03:32 role but it's true, there is that kind of mission trip 03:36 and then there's the in the trenches, this is tough, hard, 03:39 dirty, sometimes unsanitary very difficult work. 03:42 When you actually get to know the people and see the 03:46 situation that they are living in, definitely. 03:49 So if I could just ask you, why were you in these 03:52 particular meetings, what was the nature of your work 03:55 there at the United Nations? Were you just auditing 03:58 these meetings, what were you doing there? 03:59 Well basically the Seventh-day Adventist church has an 04:02 NGO consultant status at the United Nations. 04:05 Just, just - I'm sorry - now didn't you love that? 04:10 Nongovernment organization. 04:14 NGO was a nongovernment organization, basically any 04:18 organization that is not a part of government. 04:21 We have as an Adventist church a server status at 04:24 the United Nations so we can go to meetings and 04:27 meet with the diplomats. 04:29 We can write reports and send them back to the General 04:32 conference, so we can know what is happening 04:34 in the world around you. 04:35 Okay and that is what you are doing there? -exactly! 04:37 So you're sitting at these meetings and listening to 04:40 report on sexual trafficking, or report on the lack of 04:43 sanitation, or a report on lack of access to clean water, 04:46 your heart is beginning to, all of a sudden that new 04:49 blouse and had to have, that new pair of pants, 04:52 things are changing? -absolutely absolutely it's more 04:56 of the world focus off of myself and on other people. 05:00 Which needed to happen. 05:01 Now let me just ask you a question, the phrases came up 05:04 a couple of times here, this idea of human rights. 05:08 Human rights, what exactly are we saying we say human 05:11 rights, what are you saying? 05:13 What does that mean and maybe I can ask it in two parts. 05:15 What is meant when groups like Amnesty International and 05:18 other groups say it, and what is meant when you and 05:21 I say it and when ADRA says it when we say it from 05:23 a Christian perspective? A biblical perspective? 05:25 Weren't typical perspective? - right, excellent question. 05:28 so let's go to the secular perspective first of all. 05:32 Basically human rights are an Amnesty International's 05:35 and other viewpoints from organizations rights that 05:38 fundamentally belong to human beings. 05:40 Just because they are human they are entitled to these things. 05:43 So food, water, air, clean situations. 05:47 - exactly, exactly. 05:49 What happened was in 1948 after World War II and the 05:53 Holocaust, United Nations was formed in 1945 and in 1948 05:58 Eleanor Roosevelt actually spearheaded a campaign to 06:02 establish a universe declaration of human rights. 06:05 It is similar to our Bill of Rights we have a huge 06:08 universal declaration and those are thirty rights 06:12 governments agreed to around the world. 06:13 But from a secular viewpoint, human rights are something 06:18 that are constructed, it's not something that 06:22 we inherently have because they did not know where to 06:25 go to get the bases for human rights. 06:27 Though it's constructed it is not necessarily the way 06:31 it has to be, but we have constructed it. 06:33 - you say, just to clarify here for viewers, 06:35 when you say it is constructed what you are saying is that 06:38 it is a convention in the since that hey I'm a human being and 06:41 you're a human being so what would I want to have the what 06:44 do you want to have, it's not anchored in anything, 06:47 its humanitarian but it's also a humanistic. - exactly! 06:51 And some scholars allocate there is no foundation basis. 06:54 We see these tenets of serving other people and helping 06:57 people in all the main religions. 06:59 - yeah. - sure right. 07:00 A lot of times human rights from a secular perspective 07:04 means allowing governments around the world to enact 07:08 policies which in turn will change human behavior. 07:12 So from a biblical perspective that's going to be 07:16 fundamentally flawed at some level, not that in it's sphere 07:22 but you know and I know in Scripture tells us we have 07:27 a problem with the heart don't we? - definitely, 07:30 definitely a let me say this before we get into the 07:33 biblical perspective, I lot of these organizations are 07:35 doing wonderful things, they are helping people, 07:37 they are serving people, they are out there doing a lot 07:40 of stuff that Christians are not involved in. 07:43 - they are in the trenches. - exactly and I affirmed 07:46 them for doing that, but I'm a Christian and we come at 07:48 this from this with a different perspective. 07:50 - yes so tell us what is that perspective? 07:52 Sure, well I think we can go back to the Garden of Eden. 07:55 To find the basis of human rights. 07:58 For a sample at me ask you guys this question. 08:00 What are some human rights that Adam experienced in the 08:04 garden of Eden before the fall? 08:05 What are some things that he had? 08:07 Well he would had a place to live, a safe place to live. 08:11 He had food, water there were rivers flowing through the 08:15 garden. - he had the right to work and is there 08:20 anything else you can think of? 08:22 - freedom - yet he had freedom obviously. 08:25 Man you are really put us on the spot here, woo, woo, 08:29 woo, Pastor Rahn how are we doing on the test today? 08:32 I used to do this in my classes, also he had the right 08:35 to rest, the Sabbath, and also hit the right of family 08:39 and relationships with the animals and also later with 08:42 Eve and also God Himself. 08:44 So human rights. - so things we don't even think about 08:47 I suppose. - they are so fundamental. - absolutely. 08:51 The rights that God endowed him with when we were in 08:54 a perfect environment, when he was in a perfect 08:57 environment in heaven and the underlying reason why 08:59 he had these rights was because he had that 09:02 relationship with God. That was the fundamental 09:05 basis was that relationship with God. 09:08 - because God is the giver of all these things. 09:09 Every good gift and every perfect gift comes down from 09:12 above James 1: 17. And so God is the giver 09:18 of these rights, okay. 09:20 Absolutely and what happen is you could have the fall 09:23 and then you had these huge problems, sin and death. 09:26 Then the fall being, - when Eve was tempted and 09:32 she partake of the Apple and then Adam did it as well. 09:35 As a result we have this heinous human rights abuses 09:39 for the rest of our history, as a result of 09:41 the separation from God. 09:43 So from a biblical perspective the end is not solving 09:47 the world's problems, we're not here to solve poverty, 09:50 we're not here to solve dirty water, we are not here to 09:54 solve child soldiers, human trafficking, I want to stop 09:57 that to be honest, I want to I don't want people to 10:00 experience that but our primary purpose is to point people 10:05 to that relationship with Jesus Christ. 10:08 He is God and He is the ultimate solution. 10:12 But these two things are not, they're not non- 10:15 complementary right, they can be both. - exactly. 10:18 So the issues of clean water, sanitation, child soldiers, 10:21 sexual trafficking is totally commences with someone 10:24 accepting Jesus as a personal Savior. - absolutely. 10:27 My thing is let's look at Jesus Christ's example. 10:31 What did He do? 10:32 He went about serving others, meeting their physical needs and 10:37 bringing them to a relationship with Himself and God 10:39 His Father, and so that is our primary purpose is to point 10:42 people to Jesus, but we meet their needs in the process. 10:45 Does that make sense? 10:46 - absolutely it makes perfect sense. 10:47 it makes perfect sense. 10:49 So let me ask you a question then relative to that. 10:51 If dating getting back to the contrast between the biblical 10:57 perspective and a secular perspective of human rights, 11:01 the secular perspective doesn't have by nature definition, 11:05 it doesn't have a sort of God oriented, God directed idea 11:10 here of human rights come from God and what has 11:13 caused the violations of human rights is separation from 11:16 God, but because it doesn't have that Christian 11:19 organizations should really be in the forefront of this 11:22 very work in other words we don't leave those things and 11:24 say it will we will preach the gospel, we will come to 11:27 your town and preach, all you need clean water then you 11:29 need to go to talk to this government agency over here. 11:32 We should be on the cutting edge, we can't expect the 11:34 government to preach the gospel, but we can certainly 11:37 expect churches to help people with these basic simple 11:39 needs as you read there in the opening the hovels of 11:42 poverty, the cities, the back alleys. 11:44 So are we on the cutting edge of this? 11:47 As Christians there are so many organizations and people 11:51 that are doing so much good around the world. 11:53 For example the Seventh-day Adventist church we have 5600 11:57 schools in 148 countries serving one million students. 12:01 We have 70 hospitals - and education is a basic right. 12:04 Education is a basic human right. 12:06 Healthcare is a basic human right. 12:07 We have 70 hospitals and 300 clinics around the world. 12:11 This is a good start but we need to be doing so much 12:15 more through God's power. 12:17 - Amen, so what does ADRA stand for? 12:20 I know but for viewers. 12:21 Adventist Development and Relief Agency and they do 12:26 a lot of good work. 12:27 There are numerous countries around the world, but again 12:30 we need to be doing so much more. 12:31 - we could be doing even more? Absolutely. 12:33 Probably every person in ADRA would say the same thing 12:36 we want to be doing more. 12:37 So here's a question, if we could be doing more then why 12:42 aren't we? Is it resources? Is it finances? 12:46 What is it you said personnel? 12:48 Is it people, is it motivation? 12:50 Oh, that is a great question and I had to just look at 12:54 my own life to answer that question. 12:56 I think it is where our focus is. 12:57 If our focus is on self then we are not going to be 13:00 thinking about serving others, but if our focus is on God 13:03 then we are going to be willing to serve our brothers 13:06 and sisters around the world, where ever that may be or 13:09 however that may be. 13:10 So a fine, if I'm interested in this what can I do? 13:14 What can I do in my hometown to help meet these needs, 13:17 there are plenty of homeless people where I live and 13:20 I pass them a dollar out the window when I drive by but 13:23 what more can I do? - yet that's another good question. 13:27 I think it so my students at Southern Adventist University 13:30 in Tennessee and they actually solve the problem of 13:34 homelessness in downtown Chattanooga. 13:37 They actually started networking every single Sabbath and 13:41 going down to a place called Patent Towers. 13:43 They did evangelistic series, they ran New Start, they ran 13:46 Depression Recovery, they made friends with these people 13:49 and they served them. 13:51 So there are abundant opportunities right here. 13:54 What they're like feeding elements as well? 13:57 absolutely. It's the mingling which is the true 14:01 spiritual component in the physical meeting of your needs. 14:04 Doesn't James said College James chapter 2 where it says 14:07 someone comes to you and they are naked and they are hungry 14:10 and you say oh God bless you, go in peace. 14:13 If you don't clothe them and you don't feed them what is 14:16 that? So we need to meet both needs don't we? 14:18 Absolutely, and can I just say is really important for us 14:21 to meet the needs of people in the United States of 14:24 America, but from traveling abroad we are so many of us 14:28 here in the United States and we have a relative level of 14:31 income, and I know some are less than others, but I think 14:35 we have enough people here to serve our fellow man. 14:38 I think more people need to go out across the globe and be 14:42 serving as well. Let me read you guys 14:44 some statistics. - please, please do. 14:46 It lets us know what's going on in regards to lack of 14:49 human rights around the world. 14:50 For example, water and sanitation, 1 out of 8 people 14:55 do not have access to clean water, that is 14:57 nearly one billion individuals. 15:00 Diarrheal diseases 4000 children died daily because of 15:04 diarrheal diseases, they don't have access to medicine. 15:07 This is in the world? - this is in the entire world. 15:11 925 million people in the world don't have enough to eat. 15:16 18,000 children under five died daily, 18,000 died daily 15:21 because they do not have enough food. 15:23 Healthcare, for example in Malawi Africa - where you've 15:27 been - and yes I was in Malawi. 15:29 There are two doctors for every 100,000 people, just 2. 15:33 Compare that to United States we have 2300 for every 15:37 100,000 thousand people, so it's huge the disparity there. 15:41 Education, 72 million children at least do not attend 15:45 school, and these are just some of the issues we haven't 15:49 even talked about human trafficking. 15:54 Several years ago I was exposed to a book and a website 15:58 not for sale.com I've been there and read the book and 16:02 cruise the website, I'll tell you that was a whole new 16:06 world that I was even aware of. 16:09 There are more slaves on earth today than there ever 16:13 have been in history of the human experience ever. 16:16 Nobody talks about it because nobody knows. 16:19 No which is not known and many of these slaves, 16:21 we've mentioned sexual trafficking many times, 16:24 many of these slaves are gone children that are 16:27 sold into sexual slavery, and never know, 16:30 will this person you talked about. 16:31 Oh hey lets go back to my home country and then 16:35 you are sold into slavery by her boyfriend? 16:38 Exactly, and you know a lot of times it is because of 16:41 poverty as well, there are families that actually sell 16:45 their children, and they don't want to, a lot of times 16:48 they don't want to but it happens. 16:50 There is between 27 to 200 million slaves in the world 16:53 today and 70% of the tourists that travel to Thailand are 16:57 sex tourists. - wow, that is astonishing. - it blows 17:01 your brain, but these are just statistics aren't they? 17:04 Yeah but even though they are just statistics, the 17:07 reality behind that every one of these numbers is a person 17:12 for whom Jesus died. - absolutely, absolutely! 17:15 It is an actual person with actual feelings, pains, hurts, 17:19 dreams, desires, just overwhelming friends. 17:23 It is just overwhelming and let me tell you it was just 17:27 statistics to me, I know it matters but it doesn't impact 17:30 your heart until you actually come in contact with 17:33 someone's story. - so walk us through. 17:35 You told us that you had a story there, really impacted you. 17:38 This is in regard to health care. 17:40 Two years ago I was volunteer- ing at Mulanje Adventist 17:45 Hospital in Malawi in southern Africa. 17:47 I was doing some grant writing, which is basically helping 17:51 to fund raise for the hospital. 17:53 I was also assisting the chaplain. 17:55 One day I was walking to my house was happy to be done 17:59 with my work for the day. 18:00 I settled into my house and I kept getting this impression. 18:02 Mindi you need to go back to the hospital. 18:05 I was like, I don't want to I'm really comfortable I'm 18:08 done with work really comfortable. 18:10 He wouldn't let me go, it was like to go down to the 18:13 hospital, so I finally said fine I'll go to the hospital. 18:17 I would usually go through the wards everyday and talk 18:21 the patients and pray with them and get to know them. 18:24 They are such a blessing, they are dying of AIDS and they 18:27 are smiling and they are just beautiful, beautiful people. 18:30 But this day I walked into the ward and there was a young woman 18:34 about my age and she was reading like this, (shallow 18:37 labored breathing) and her mother was cradling her. 18:40 She was trying to get her to breath with every ounce of the 18:43 mom being and again I said she was my age. 18:46 I was like oh no, there were no nurses were doctors around 18:49 at that point, nobody. 18:50 She wasn't on oxygen, they didn't have oxygen because of 18:53 resources and so was like oh no she's having an asthma 18:57 attack, I'm not a medical person they didn't know what was 19:00 happening but I did know something. 19:02 We need to pray and we need to pray now, now. 19:05 Now, now is vernacular used in Malawi meaning right now. 19:09 That is very fitting, -the only words I know in that 19:13 language do you want to pray? 19:15 So I asked her that. - do you know how to say it now? 19:18 Even pa ad - I remembered that. 19:20 I asked that girl that you want to pray? 19:24 She was gasping for air, yes, yes I want to pray. 19:27 She nodded yes, yes and I prayed and I remember praying 19:31 this prayer and I wanted to find someone to help. 19:34 I remember praying God, may this girl except You as 19:38 her Savior right now Amen now. 19:42 And then I left the room and I went on to the hall looking 19:46 for someone and couldn't find anybody. 19:47 I was probably gone 20 seconds and when I came back she 19:50 was dead. I had never seen someone die before. 19:53 It's like old people in Africa are used to death, its like 19:58 HIV AIDS. - no, no it hurts them just as it hurts us. 20:01 - of course. - the mom was there and started wailing. 20:04 The family came into the room and they started wailing 20:07 and I just backed into the corner and just watched. 20:10 She is dead, she is dead and I learned a couple of hours 20:13 later it was because the lab did not get the results back 20:17 far enough, quick enough and if they had she would have 20:21 been able to be put on medicine and 20:23 she would be alive today. 20:25 So it is a disparity, a lack in healthcare all because 20:28 where you are born. 20:29 - that we take for granted and you said something there 20:33 that words cannot adequately communicate I don't think, 20:36 but it is so true and that is we make a distinction, 20:38 those of us in first world countries and of course many of 20:42 our viewers are from first world countries, not all of 20:45 them but many of them. 20:46 We have to be honest with ourselves, most of us make 20:49 a distinction between what happens in, all yet death for 20:52 us is, but that's over there is different, no, no, no. 20:55 Death is dead, death is the enemy and when somebody dies 20:59 and she is being cradled and held by her mother that is 21:02 just, I have two little boys, that is just as devastating 21:05 to someone who is in Africa to someone who is in Asia, 21:08 to someone who lives in Australia as someone who lives 21:12 in Europe or here. - Absolutely, absolutely and it hurts 21:15 God's heart the same as it was us dying. 21:18 What is it to God? - absolutely and went He sees us 21:20 doing what we are doing here and what is happening around 21:23 it could be God, I'm glad I'm not God. 21:25 The pain that He has been going through for thousands of 21:28 years watching this is just devastating. 21:31 You know there's almost a sense of indignation in all of 21:36 this for me at least, and some people are uncomfortable 21:40 with an angry God, they want the nice God and there is 21:43 that element, no one would deny the God of grace the God 21:47 of mercy, but there are passages in Scripture where God is 21:52 frustrated at human apathy and indifference towards human 21:56 situations and a passage of scripture that comes to my 21:59 mind that I want to share with our viewers and with us 22:03 here to sort of meditate on this. 22:05 Isaiah 59:14 "Justice is turned back and righteousness 22:10 "stands afar off. For truth has fallen in the street and 22:14 "equity cannot enter. So truth fails, and he who departs 22:18 "from evil makes himself a prey. Then the Lord saw it 22:21 "and it disbelieves Him that there was no justice." 22:24 He saw that there was no intercessor." 22:28 He wondered there was no intercessor there and I just 22:31 love that the Lord saw it and it displeased Him. 22:34 This will sound a little trite, I hope it doesn't. 22:37 I saw a cartoon several years ago, just a little 22:40 comic strip and I think it was like 22:42 Sherman's Lagoon or something. 22:43 One Fish was talking to another fish or frog to fish 22:46 I don't remember, but anyway in the cartoon this particular 22:50 fish was saying oh I can't believe the world we live in. 22:53 There's poverty, there's disease, there's lack of 22:55 healthcare, lack of access to clean water and why does God 22:59 let this happen? I just want to ask God. 23:02 The other fish or frog that was in the pond said, 23:04 well why don't you ask God that question? 23:06 There is this pause, and then He says well I'm afraid 23:10 He would ask me the same question. 23:15 Absolutely, - we are brothers keeper, we are our sisters 23:19 keeper and we are the source of God's displeasure here. 23:23 In many instances when we are not actively involved in 23:28 bringing real physical needs to real people, let's face 23:31 it we are spiritually being yes, but we are also physical 23:35 beings that need water, that need food, that need 23:38 healthcare. Well I'm thinking about Mark 10:45 23:41 "for even the son of man did not come to be served but 23:45 "to serve and to give His life a ransom for many." 23:49 He didn't come to just have a good time on earth to see what 23:53 was like, He came to get His life and so how can we follow 23:58 that council, how can we be like Christ the way that 24:00 He asked us to serve others, how can we do that? 24:03 That is an excellent question. 24:06 You quote there Mark 10 and what comes to my mind is 24:10 John 13 "I have given you an example." - absolutely 24:14 and we can go on and on Isaiah 58, Matthew 25, but we 24:18 cannot divorce that from pointing people to that 24:20 relationship of Jesus Christ. 24:22 Because we can heal them temporarily, but what about 24:26 within peace from knowing Jesus? It's both definitely. 24:31 So Mindi help us out here, how do we marry these two 24:35 ideas? what do we do? 24:37 I mean I can pray, Shandra can pray, we are here and 24:40 got this globally network, we are speaking to literally 24:43 thousands of people, 10 thousands of people, hundreds 24:46 of thousands of people, what do we do? What can we do? 24:50 Okay excellent question, this is a question 24:53 makes me really excited. 24:54 Number one we can pray for revival and conversion. 24:57 That we actually have a burden for souls and care for 25:00 other people, that is number one. 25:02 Number two, we can build up, we have wonderful 25:07 Seventh-day Adventist education system, 25:08 but we can incorporate this more concretely into the 25:12 curriculum of meeting temporal needs 25:14 and fostering spiritual needs. 25:16 So more educational programs at the academy, 25:19 at the University level. 25:20 Next let's continue to involve youth and really up it. 25:25 Target youth, for example I have a friend that is in 25:29 Afghanistan right now, a young man 22 years old. 25:32 He came to ARISE absolutely and his name is Luther. 25:36 He is over there on his own initiative attempting to meet 25:40 these people's needs and shared Jesus Christ, yeah. 25:43 So we can support individuals like this. 25:45 It to Paul in Petra, a young couple that are ministering 25:48 at the Gimbe Hospital in Ethiopia. 25:50 So we can send our youth, so we can create organizations 25:55 that target youth and invest in youth and go forward with their 25:59 ideas for reaching the world. 26:00 - I love that, I absolutely love that. 26:03 You are talking about empowerment here, empowering 26:06 people to well bless other people. 26:09 To bring the Gospel, the Gospel is not just empty words 26:12 you've probably heard this thing before him we don't want 26:14 to be so heavenly minded there were no earthly good. 26:17 There is no such thing because heavenly mindedness is not 26:21 just meeting the spiritual, it's meeting people, I mean 26:25 Jesus healed lepers, Jesus fed the 5000, Jesus came to 26:29 make those kinds of needs as well. 26:31 Absolutely and let me actually close with a quick story. 26:35 Recently my family was in Haiti, I wasn't there this time. 26:39 My mom and my dad, my dad is a physician. 26:41 While they were there they were at an orphanage a girl 26:44 either accidentally, or on purpose because we don't know, 26:47 drank Clorox bleach and it perforated, made a hole in her 26:50 esophagus, in the United States in the best ICU this 26:53 would be a 90% mortality rate. 26:55 So my parents decided, and my cousins as well decided 26:59 to take this young lady to the hospital. 27:01 The hospital was in shambles there a Haiti, 27:03 they don't have the resources. 27:05 When my parents left the room they would take the oxygen 27:07 from her, they didn't want to waste it because 27:09 they thought she would die. 27:10 My parents stayed with that girl all night crying 27:13 and praying, crying and praying and she made it. 27:16 90% mortality rate in the United States and she makes 27:20 it in Haiti, so we need to go out there and need 27:23 to be reaching these people and 27:24 God will work miracles and save souls. 27:27 We would like to invite you our viewers as well if 27:30 you have any comments or comments please e-mail us: 27:37 and check us out on face book, write us your comments 27:40 and get in touch with Mindi so that you can learn what 27:42 you can do as well. 27:43 Thank you for that Shandra, thank you for that Mindi for 27:45 joining us and I want to take a minute to step further and 27:47 say yes the comments, and yes the e-mails, and yes the 27:50 questions but even more the action. 27:52 In other words this is not about them it's about you. 27:56 It's about you serving in the name of Jesus |
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