Free Indeed

Putnamville Correctional Facility - Indiana

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

Program transcript

Participants: C.A. Murray (Host), Lemuel Vega (Host), Bernard Winfrey, Creig Allen, Dustin Duff, Kyle Stockberger, Shawn Weddle, Thomas Meyer

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00:01 Hi, I'm C.A. Murray and this is Free Indeed,
00:05 a different kind of ministry.
00:07 The men and women that you will meet
00:09 in this particular program have found Jesus
00:11 in very trying circumstances.
00:14 They are going to tell you their story,
00:16 their own personal journey of their walk of faith.
00:20 We haven't changed their music
00:22 and we haven't changed their words
00:23 because it's their personal testimony.
00:26 It's their walk of faith with Jesus Christ.
00:29 So you're gonna meet some people,
00:30 some men and women who've made
00:31 some mistakes in their lives,
00:33 but they're trying to change
00:35 that through the power of Jesus Christ.
00:37 You will meet men and women who've found
00:39 as we have found that freedom is not really,
00:43 doesn't have much to do with where you are.
00:46 It is more what you are.
00:48 You'll find as they have found that in Jesus,
00:51 you can indeed be free indeed.
01:18 It's hard to imagine spending hours, later on months,
01:21 years, most of your life in something like this
01:26 and yet that's the reality for far too many individuals.
01:31 Today's program was recorded
01:32 at the Putnamville Correctional Facility
01:35 and we want to thank the administrators, guards,
01:38 staff, and the inmate for sharing their lives with us.
01:43 On today's program, we're going to meet Kyle,
01:45 and Shawn, and Thomas,
01:48 and Creig and we're going to hear
01:49 just a little from our buddy, Lemuel Vega
01:52 of Christmas Behind Bars.
01:55 When we think about the inmate population
01:57 is very easy to see them as just one mass of individuals,
02:01 one gang of people, and-- yet the truth is every story
02:06 is an individual story, every testimony,
02:09 an individual testimony.
02:12 These people are here
02:13 because they made individual decisions.
02:16 Now they are making new decision, right decisions,
02:19 correct decisions for Jesus Christ.
02:22 You're going to hear here a very beautiful song
02:23 called "breathe" and-- you're going to experience
02:25 something that's going to bless you. Stay by.
02:31 Is it possible to have true freedom in prison?
02:35 Yes. Is it? Yes. I want to share with you
02:37 that I pray that this program will encourage you
02:40 and inspire you to take the-- true freedom that you found
02:43 in these undesirable circumstances
02:47 out to the-- street with you.
02:49 It is possible, it is attainable,
02:52 prison didn't change my life.
02:54 I'm sorry to say, I struggled with drug addiction
02:56 for the next 12 years of my life
02:59 and it was until 13 years ago that I got down in my knees
03:03 in a hospital room, sick, and ready to die.
03:06 And today if you're sick and tired of the circumstances
03:09 that sin has brought in your life, we've signed up
03:14 for the death sentence.
03:15 We was born with unmanageability.
03:17 And we said yes, we like it or did we.
03:21 No, you don't like it, but yet you tried to numb
03:24 the consequences and things, the shame and the pain
03:27 and the guilt of sin in our world today,
03:29 we tried to check out and-- think that it is not a reality.
03:32 But when we come to places like this since that sin
03:36 and reality is here and this is not what you want.
03:40 I know it's not what you want.
03:41 And God has provided-- how many of you know
03:43 about the Christmas Behind Bars program?
03:47 Let me ask you a question,
03:48 how many of you have received gift packages
03:51 from the county jail only, county jail only.
03:54 How many of you received packages from county jail only?
03:57 How many of you received packages from RDC only.
04:01 Wow, that's amazing.
04:03 Is that amazing that God has provided an opportunity
04:06 for these grocery sacks to go into the diagnostic center.
04:11 Do you remember going through the diagnostic center,
04:14 it was like they can't give you the time and day,
04:16 because they're busy.
04:18 It's not a very nice place to be in the diagnostic center.
04:21 I want to tell you that God provided
04:23 such an awesome opportunity last night
04:25 that we were at the diagnostic center
04:27 not just to give brown paper sacks, but to do this program
04:32 in the west part in RDC.
04:35 To let the world know--
04:40 to let the world know
04:41 that there is hope in this time of need.
04:44 Our world is reeling from the consequences of sin.
04:47 How many of you here this afternoon
04:50 want something different than were you at tonight. Amen.
04:53 And I will tell you that we're going to come to the Lord
04:55 in prayer and ask that as Jesus ascended
04:59 unto the right hand of God, we're going to come
05:01 to the throne room of-- God boldly, because He cared
05:05 for the sparrow that you throw some bread crumbs to.
05:09 You got compassion today for the sparrow
05:12 on the walk you throw a few bread crumbs.
05:15 At least, I did.
05:16 And then you get to see the-- little birds come and eat.
05:19 God careth for the sparrow.
05:20 How much more does He careth for humanity?
05:24 Amen. Amen. Let--let us pray.
05:28 Our dear heavenly Father, we come boldly,
05:30 petitioning Your gracing, and your mercy.
05:32 Father petitioning the-- transforming power through
05:35 Your Holy Spirit that our lives may be changed, Father.
05:38 That we can go forth from these prison houses,
05:41 new people, Father.
05:42 Father, productive members of society not only,
05:46 but to be that loving kind dad, to be that good husband,
05:49 to be that kind caring individual
05:52 that you want to impute into our life,
05:54 Father righteousness, Father that we can overcome
05:57 temptation, that sin would not so easily
06:00 be set us ever again, because Your blood is sufficient,
06:03 Your grace is sufficient, and we pray
06:06 that You'll come into this place and that Your angels
06:09 that excel in strength, Father, would guard this prison,
06:12 would send the evilness on its way
06:14 that these men may contemplate
06:16 as they hear truth and that they maybe willing
06:19 to surrender their will unto the as you knock it,
06:23 as they hear it through Your voice
06:24 that they would answer the call under salvation
06:27 as our prayer and our desire in Jesus name we pray, amen.
06:33 Amen. I would like to introduce to you
06:34 some hardworking people.
06:37 People that have given up their state pay,
06:39 they have given up their time at Pen products
06:41 to come out, to work, whatever.
06:43 I know at Plainfield, there were-- the musicians
06:46 did not get paid to come out and practice
06:48 and I'm sure that these men have put forth
06:50 a lot of effort to make this possible.
06:52 So we are going to hear some wonderful selections
06:54 from your own.
07:01 The name of this song is called "breathe,"
07:03 it reminds me that everything
07:05 that comes from my heavenly Father.
07:16 This is the air I breathe
07:23 This is the air I breathe
07:30 Your holy presence
07:36 Living in me
07:48 It's a blessing to be
07:49 on the same very part of prison ministry,
07:52 the only thing I have ever done in my entire life
07:56 even before becoming Christian was playing music
07:58 and now it is so much more clear I'm doing it for purpose
08:02 and I'm giving something back to God,
08:05 it feels great that-- I will be turning 24 years
08:11 old this week and I'm the happiest
08:13 I've ever been in my entire life
08:15 and for me to be able to say that from prisons
08:17 is pretty amazing and a lot of people in the streets
08:20 they can't even say that, there's no doubt in my mind
08:23 its because-- I have been saved
08:26 and then I'm being able to do something
08:28 to give back to God and to share my testimony
08:30 with others is just an amazing thing.
08:34 I'm lost without you, Jesus.
08:41 It's has been a great experience
08:45 being on worship team
08:46 and being a part of the services here.
08:51 Although I was always little scared and nervous,
08:52 I knew that was a devil trying to keep me
08:54 from doing something that I know Jesus
08:55 would want me to do, so.
08:58 That's what made me get up here and just have faith
09:04 and do what the Lord would have me to do
09:06 and the more I do, the easier it gets
09:09 and I can tell by that in the way people react
09:13 like in church services and so forth and I pray throughout
09:17 the world when people see this that Jesus Christ
09:20 can change anyone's life and that the power
09:23 that He gives you through the Holy Spirit
09:26 will give you the courage, the strength to do anything.
09:30 So, yeah, I was a little nervous at first,
09:34 but not so much
09:37 to where I couldn't get up here, you know.
09:51 When 3ABN came into this prison facility,
09:54 I wasn't quite sure how widespread
09:57 God's evangelistic and missionaries and stuff
10:02 are being spread throughout the world and you guys came
10:04 in and said that-- you know you guys air
10:07 from millions of people all around the world.
10:10 It just really touched my heart
10:11 and you guys were able to come here
10:14 and want to hear our testimony,
10:16 want to hear from prisoners, least of all people
10:18 and I just thought it was amazing since then,
10:21 you know, it's also an encouragement
10:25 because I know that-- you know God's word
10:27 has been spread throughout the world and I'm not alone
10:30 and it's just an amazing blessing
10:31 that have you guys come in here
10:33 and give us an opportunity to share
10:35 our stories to the world.
10:39 I'm desperate for you
10:47 I'm lost without you
10:52 Amen. Amen.
10:56 I would like the testimonies that are shared here
11:00 to be a message of hope for those people in the world.
11:03 I would like the world to know the victims,
11:06 perhaps I would like the world
11:08 to know that reads the headlines everyday
11:10 about the scandalous things, the criminals have done
11:14 or supposedly have done that there is hope for their lives.
11:18 But they need to focus also
11:21 because when you point a finger,
11:22 you have got a few pointing back towards you.
11:25 So, we need to personally
11:27 keep our focus on Jesus Christ
11:29 and what He has done for humanity
11:32 and then we'll love our brother.
11:34 We'll love our name.
11:35 And so the testimonies
11:37 that are shared here is my desire to go across
11:41 the airways around the world to share hope with humanity.
11:46 What Jesus is doing not only in these places,
11:48 but promising those people free by society standards,
11:53 what He will do in and through their lives.
11:56 Today we are privileged to have, Mr. Creig Allen.
12:00 Creig, this is your, how many time in jail?
12:03 This is my fifth time in jail.
12:04 Fifth time in prison, that is like huge,
12:07 people think that its revolving door,
12:09 but it is not, is it? No, sir, it's not.
12:10 Is there hope for you to leave
12:13 this prison and not come back?
12:15 Yes, sir, there is.
12:16 Would you share with us what that hope maybe?
12:19 That hope is God, God in Jesus Christ.
12:22 And how do we come to the knowledge of God?
12:24 How do we find that personal relationship with Jesus?
12:27 Seek Him, open your heart, open your mind,
12:30 be sincere and seek God and you'll find Him.
12:33 Now you've got a special message to the young people.
12:36 The people out there in the neighborhood
12:38 that they doesn't maybe have stability in their home.
12:40 What would that message be
12:41 to the young people in the world today?
12:43 That would be to first allow yourself to be renewed
12:48 and transformed by God's love.
12:50 When you open your heart and your mind to God,
12:52 He'll change you.
12:53 That was one of my biggest problems
12:56 trying to change myself and each time
12:58 that I tried to change myself I failed.
13:01 This time, I know forth fact that I'm going to succeed
13:05 because I have given God my life
13:07 and He is transforming, He is real, take it for granted,
13:10 don't take if for granted,
13:12 I mean really, really sincerely seek Him
13:14 and when you find Him, believe me,
13:17 He will do everything that you already
13:18 tried to do and more.
13:20 He will do it for us.
13:21 Yes. But yet we have a part to play
13:23 in this relationship with Jesus.
13:24 Yes, sir. Is it a once saved, always saved,
13:27 or is it daily relationship for you?
13:29 Well, it's once saved, you're saved,
13:31 but it's always daily, it's a renewal.
13:33 A continual. Yes, sir. Renewing of our minds
13:35 that our minds may be transformed.
13:37 Yes, sir. In closing what message of hope
13:39 would you share with those still suffering with drugs,
13:41 or alcohol, or the sin problem.
13:44 I would simply say, don't give up,
13:46 don't give up hope, don't give up faith.
13:48 Set your eyes on God and stay steadfast
13:52 no matter what happens, because if you trust in Him,
13:54 He will take care of everything.
13:56 We live in troublous times,
13:58 I believe that He is coming soon
14:00 and He is calling His people
14:01 to a higher, more noble calling, amen.
14:03 Amen. Thank you very, very much brother
14:06 and God bless you.
14:13 Before we read God's word, let's talk
14:15 to God for just a second.
14:17 Heavenly Father, Your word is truly a lamp
14:19 unto our feet and a light unto our path.
14:24 Shine that light before us, so that we may see
14:28 and walk in Your footsteps in Jesus name, amen.
14:37 Second Kings, Chapter 6, just two versus, 28 and 29.
14:46 The Bible says "Then the king said to her.
14:50 What is troubling you?
14:53 And she answered, this woman said to me
14:58 'Give your son, that we may eat him today."
15:04 I said this was a strange text of scripture.
15:09 "And we will eat my son tomorrow.
15:14 So we boiled my son and ate him.
15:19 And I said to her on the next day,
15:23 'Give your son that we may eat him.
15:27 But she has hidden her son."
15:33 Very strange, strange scripture.
15:39 It's a desperate situation. But in desperate times,
15:46 people do desperate things.
15:51 Now every thing you read in the Bible
15:53 is not commended by the Bible.
15:55 You see the Bible shows the-- good, the bad, and the ugly.
16:01 Many times it puts that in there,
16:03 so you don't fall into that trap.
16:07 But this is a desperate time.
16:08 It's--it's a time of famine.
16:10 All the food has been eaten and all the grass
16:14 has been eaten and all the plants have been eaten,
16:16 so people now are beginning to eat
16:20 strange things, strange animals.
16:23 Now eating animals is not strange,
16:26 but the kind of animals they were eating
16:29 and the parts of the animals that they were eating.
16:34 I'll say again brethren, desperate times
16:39 call for desperate measures.
16:43 And these were desperate times.
16:46 The situation was desperate.
16:50 The problem is when you make decisions out of desperation,
16:58 usually the bad decision.
17:01 Come on.
17:04 How many of you ever made a bad decision?
17:07 Mm-hmm. Now, I'm not talking about
17:09 wearing brown shoes or a black tuxedo.
17:11 I'm talking about bad decisions.
17:15 Made a bad decision
17:19 was that a Mesus decision or a Jesus decision.
17:25 You see every decision you make falls in two categories.
17:29 Every decision, one is a me and us decision,
17:33 Mesus or Jesus.
17:37 Every decision, is it a Mesus or Jesus
17:41 and every, every bad decision is a Mesus decision,
17:46 is for me and my posse,
17:49 me and my crew as a Mesus decision
17:52 or a Jesus decision and everyone
17:56 of those bad decisions, you know has a Mesus decision.
18:01 I got a good friend,
18:02 he is about to get married for the fourth time.
18:06 In fact by now, I think he is married.
18:07 And I asked him how did you think this one is going
18:13 to take and you had
18:15 three tries at it and failed every time.
18:21 He said, 'cause this is a Jesus decision.
18:24 That first three was a Mesus decision.
18:28 I did that for me, this one I'm doing for God.
18:33 So, I know this one is going to be a good decision.
18:38 One of the good things about
18:40 giving your life to Jesus
18:43 is that it keeps you from making desperate decisions.
18:50 When you turned your life over to Jesus,
18:52 it keeps you from making desperate decisions.
18:55 When--when you get to the point in your life,
18:59 when you feel its all on you.
19:02 Ever been at that point, at that position.
19:04 You know I-- I got me into this hole
19:07 and I got to get me out.
19:11 See that's the point of desperation.
19:14 I got in, I got to get out.
19:18 But Jesus is knocking on the door of your life
19:22 trying to tell you is not about you anymore,
19:26 because the same hole you're in,
19:29 if you just look over your shoulder,
19:32 I'm in that hole with you.
19:34 So what you had to do is turn over to Jesus and say,
19:39 listen Jesus how you going to get us out of this mess.
19:51 Because everything that touches you, touches Jesus,
19:54 everything that troubles you, troubles Jesus,
19:57 everything that bothers you, bothers Jesus.
20:01 And listen everybody that disturbs you, disturbs Jesus.
20:06 Which is why you don't have to lay awake nights
20:10 trying to get even with foe,
20:16 how to deal, think about revenge,
20:19 because God's got your back.
20:27 The Bible says, when--when you do right
20:33 and folk do you wrong, hello.
20:39 There he can cause a fire on their own head.
20:44 When they repay your good with evil,
20:47 God says I'm writing it down.
20:52 So, you don't have to worry about.
20:53 All right, I'll take care of that.
20:56 Uh-uh, God's going to take care of that.
21:00 Vengeance is mine sayeth, hello,
21:04 He's got your back, once you are his child
21:07 and so you don't have to worry about being desperate,
21:12 because God's going to take care of you.
21:15 And no matter what hole you crawl into or fall into,
21:19 you got enough brains to ask,
21:22 Jesus has enough love to answer, amen.
21:26 You just got to trust in God.
21:28 You just got to trust in God.
21:29 Now, the cute little story about little boy
21:31 just three years of age.
21:33 Going to church and he had little saying
21:37 to do in front of the whole church and he was nervous.
21:40 Just three words, trust in God, trust in God
21:44 and so since he was so afraid he forget it,
21:46 he had written on little piece of paper
21:48 sitting in back of daddy's car driving to the church.
21:51 Trust in God, trust in God, trust in God
21:55 and it was kind of a warm spring day
21:57 and so daddy rolled down the window
22:01 to get little air in the car and a gust of wind
22:04 blew in the car, snatched the little piece of paper
22:07 and blew it out the-- window and little boy said,
22:09 daddy, daddy, stop the car.
22:12 My trust in God just flew out the window.
22:19 Now you laugh, but how is that in our own lives.
22:23 Little trouble come along, somebody get on your case
22:27 and your trusting God flies out the window
22:36 and you get desperate
22:39 and you make desperate decisions
22:41 and desperate decisions are bad decisions.
22:47 Being in Jesus keeps you from desperate decisions.
22:53 That mean your life is going to be easy.
22:56 John 16:33, Jesus said I have--I have spoken
22:58 these things unto you because in the world
23:01 ye shall have tribulation, but be of good cheer;
23:09 for I have overcome the world, amen.
23:14 Brethren, its either Mesus or Jesus,
23:20 the choice is yours.
23:23 Christ died to give you control of your life.
23:28 You commit your life to Him, He gives you control.
23:32 Religion is easy, is commitment and control.
23:38 You commit to Jesus, He gives you control.
23:42 So you don't have to be desperate,
23:44 because with you in Christ, you got control
23:48 and the Bible says, you've got a future in him, amen.
23:53 Amen. God bless you.
24:02 How many of you today would be willing to trade
24:06 in the Mesus for Jesus, for real?
24:15 How many of you today are willing
24:18 to not let our trust in Jesus
24:22 fly out the window and it's by God's grace
24:26 that He will empower us to daily live in service for Him.
24:31 But we must remember each and every morning,
24:34 each and every evening to say Lord, thank you for this day.
24:39 Father I messed up today and what's going to happen
24:42 is the flavor of Christ is going to continue
24:46 to be a continual thought in your mind and in your life.
24:50 It may start as hard to open the Bible,
24:54 I'm going to have worship, okay,
24:56 and then off to work you go.
24:58 But as you grow in wisdom and stature with favor
25:01 in with God and man, it becomes continually
25:05 second nature, a love relationship,
25:08 and it's not like okay, Lord now I need Your help
25:10 is to continual relationship with our Creator.
25:14 So brothers, this is not scientific,
25:17 this is personal what He has done in our lives
25:20 that we want to share with you
25:22 and you know what's going to happen in your lives,
25:24 you are going to become missionaries,
25:26 because you're gonna want to share with the downtrodden
25:29 in our world today.
25:31 How many of you would like to recommit,
25:36 rededicate or the first time ask Jesus
25:41 to be your Lord and Savior.
25:44 This is not a once saved, this is not an altar call,
25:47 but how many of you would like to rededicate
25:50 and ask God to be able to use you
25:53 as a vessel that was once broken, to mend you,
25:57 repair you that He is the-- potter and we are the clay.
26:01 I would like to ask two volunteers
26:04 to come up and close with prayer, the one over here.
26:06 There's one brother that would be willing
26:08 to close with prayer.
26:09 There's one, the one right here come up brother.
26:20 Dear heavenly Father, we come in the name of Jesus
26:22 and we just ask that You can give us the strength to pray
26:25 for what you want and to whom we come across trials
26:30 and we want to do some we know its wrong
26:32 just to have faith in You and you know when trials
26:35 come we can just cast a care upon you and believe and trust
26:39 in You for what you want above all else
26:42 that we can just for--just for one just have that leap
26:46 of faith and that's what we want
26:48 and that our lives will be changed.
26:50 We will just have the faith
26:51 and we pray that in Jesus name, amen.
26:58 Heavenly Father, we come before you
27:00 in the name of Jesus.
27:01 Father, I plead the blood of Jesus over this congregation,
27:04 over this ministry, and over your entire word.
27:07 I pray Father that you watch with Your holy word
27:11 as it goes out into these vessels.
27:13 Heavenly Father, let you word be planted
27:15 into the good soul of our heart
27:17 and let it be Your Spirit Father, that brings forth
27:20 a harvest in due time.
27:22 Heavenly Father, I pray for this ministry
27:24 and I ask that You open doors Father
27:27 that no man can shut and that you take them
27:30 on a journey that only Jesus can take them too.
27:33 Heavenly Father, I plead the blood of Jesus
27:35 over our families and our loved ones
27:37 and over this ministry and over Your word
27:39 and I ask that You protect us from seen and unseen danger.
27:43 Father let us continue to grow in Your word.
27:46 Help us to be transformed
27:48 within the renewing of our mind, help us to be most
27:51 submissive to You in your will,
27:53 in Jesus name I pray Father
27:56 and as that You lead us and guide us, amen.
28:01 Oh, well, there is too much freedom going on out there,
28:04 so close, but yet so far away
28:09 like the brother may I seek today.
28:11 They can be out there
28:12 free of restraints but not free. Yeah.
28:15 And that's the truth.
28:20 That's the truth.


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